Great oldschool developer, or... Greatest oldschool developer ever?

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There's a pair of guys around here that hate Treasure with all their might, mostly due to /stg/ shitposting and contrarianism, I guess.

But yeah I agree, Treasure were based. Later non-retro stuff by them like Omega Factor and S&P2 is also outstanding. Too bad they haven't done anything new for a while, but I have hopes they will do a come back one day and make Alien Soldier 2

>>3388912
>There's a pair of guys around here that hate Treasure with all their might, mostly due to /stg/ shitposting and contrarianism, I guess.

How in the hell is it even possible to hate Treasure?

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>>3388915

something-something-gimmicks and something-something ikaruga is overrated by normies it's not like my [insert cave/raizing/zun/whatever other dev that isn't treasure's game]

It's a minority, but they're here and will post as soon as they see Treasure's logo in the catalogue. So be aware of these trolls and don't reply to them.

>>3388915
Sony shitposters, I assume. They only got like 1 or 2 good games from them.

>treasure

Into the trash

>>3388890
Babby's first Japanese niche developer.

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The absolute best for shmups.

>>3389036
Watch out, the Treasurefags will accuse you of being a contrarian/hipster for not sucking their masters dicks and praising Ikaruga as the best shmup of all time.

>>3389078
I love Treasure, but even I think their shooters are overrated.

Except Bangai-O. That's fucking great.

>>3389089
I loved that on Dreamcast. I hear the N64 version is a bit different, but I never played it.

>>3389078

I like RS, never played Ikaruga, and love Bangai-O.

But my favorite Treasure games aren't the shmups.

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Greatest game of all time.

The only Treasure game I've played is Gunstar Heroes and I loved it. I should play their other games.

>>3389078
In my experience, the CAVE and Touhou fans are the worst.

Treasure shmup fans are generally alright.

>>3389252
Touhou fans don't even play the games.

>treasure
Throw it into the fucking garbage.

>>3388890
>Greatest oldschool developer ever?
Come on, Treasure was good, but they were far from being the best.

This meme has to die.

Treasure is cancer. CAVE is cancer.

>>3388937
Ikaruga IS overrated.
But overrated doesn't mean bad. It's still a great game.

So far, I loved every Treasure game I played
Gunstar Heroes
Ikaruga
That Astro Boy game on GBA i think was made by them
Mischief Makers (holy shit do i love this game)
Sin & Punishment 2

I fucking hate Treasure and CAVE.

>>3389279
I forgot Wario World
Although I didn't play the japanese version with a better final boss, but it was still great

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Their best games aren't even their shmups. Not sure why it always has to come down to Treasure vs. random shmup developer #420.

Anyway, my favorites of theirs...
>Gunstar Heroes
>Alien Soldier
>Mischief Makers
>Sin & Punishment
>Dynamite Headdy
>Silhouette Mirage

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Just played through McDonald's, great game. Clever level design and excellent music. Undoubtedly the best fast food licensed game of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJCQDbSn1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXoRbsmGnTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svk1zZm6dvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJaWgvWvvgc

>>3389320
Because as the anon said right when the thread started off, there are a lot of butthurt /stg/ that are sad everyone thinks Ikaruga is the greatest shmup ever.

> Alien Soldier

I refuse to believe anybody has ever actually managed to beat this game at full speed.

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>>3389417

>>3389446
I beat NTSC-J on Super Hard with no emulator tricks. Do I get a cookie?

>>3389036
Battle garegga is the shit.

>>3389461

Did you cheese the bosses with phoenix force, or did you beat it legit?

>>3389078
Radiant silvergun is quite amazing. Love the soundtrack.

>>3389142
Overrated. Dreamcast is my least favorite console.

>>3389461
Yes you do.

>>3389467
The fire dash? Yeah, I used it for some of them... you're not supposed to use what the game gives you now?

>>3389446
The game's really not that hard once you get the boss's patterns and weaknesses down. I started with the slower PAL version though and I've only ever played it on arcade stick.

>>3389467
>Did you beat the game the way the developers intended?
The ps2 Sega Ages release has a super play built into it that shows liberal use of phoenix.

>>3388890
Jack of all trades, master of none.

>>3389934
I'd say their platformers and run 'n gun shooters are pretty masterful.

>>3389940
Their platformers are alright, but not on par with Castlevanias, Shinobis, Ninja Gaiden, Ninja Spirit etc.
Gunstar Heroes is pretty solid, but for some reason it's not as as tight as Contras, Sunset Riders or Metal Slugs. I think it's the life meter, dodging is big part of the fun in the genre, so having a life bar trivilize that aspect and isn't as satsfying.
Alien Soldier is pretty unique so i'll give you that, although not a big fan of the controls.

>>3389934

Sin and Punishment is my favorite on-rails/cabal style shooter.

>>3389142
/thread

>>3389989
There are only like 3 or 4 noteworthy Cabal shooters out there
-Cabal
-Wild Guns
-Blood Bros
-Nam 1975

I'd say Wild Guns and Blood Bros are just as good depending on what you want.

>>3390010
Where's Panzer Dragoon?

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Most underrated Treasure game.

>>3390515
>Cabal shooters

>>3392123
What's that? Another hipster word for rail shooters like belt scroller is for beat 'em ups?

>>3392128
LOL what? Cabal shooters are not rail shooters.

>>3392167
Did you really need to invent another term when on-rails is perfectly fine?

>>3392170
Uhhhh cabal shooters are not on rails. Panzer Dragoon is a rail shooter clearly but the other noteworthy games listed by the other anon are commonly called cabal shooters, something completely different You don't know what you're talking about. Go play Wild Guns.

>>3391380
That fucking room with the cat 10/10

>>339219
Educate yourself, Cabal shooters are a thing since... Cabal, it's a very especific term for those old-school games where you are on foot in front of the enemies (often in a single screen, thus no rail) shooting, moving and jumping to dodge. Rail shooters is a term mostly for lightgun games like House of the Dead or Virtua Cop where you only have to aim, not dodge. Panzer Dragoon and Star Fox are kinda a middle term but they fit more on "rail shooters" than "cabal shooters".

Even back in the day you can see the diference between Operation Wolf and Cabal.

>>3392224
meant to quote >>3392170

bought a saturn mostly for guardian heroes