Contra, Metal Slug and especially Metroid are the pinnacle of

>>3372097
Other than the fact that Metroid is a different genre than the other two games you named, you're mostly right.

>>3372097
Turrican, Alien Soldier, Alien Hominid, Gunstar Heroes, Super Cyborg (not actually /vr/ though)

>>3372097
>Metroid
Metroid series fucking suck as acton games, people only like them because of "muh atmosphere, muh big map"

>>3372302
They are side scrollers and they are shooters. Zero Mission, Fusion and Super are the best in the series and are phenomenal games worthy of being in GOAT lists.

>>3372478
lol no they aren't

>>3372097
sunset riders

>>3372482
Explain why then.

>>3372478
>They are side scrollers and they are shooters
That's a loose definiton, you can fit shoot 'em ups tthere too, which are way better than Metroid too.
Metroid fits more on the "adventure" genre.

>>3372478
They're called run and guns. Metroid isn't.

>>3372524
My nigga, I think its equal with contra and metal slug. Too bad it never got a sequel.

The arcade, Genesis, and SNES versions are all different and all great

>>3372106
I just played alien hominid for the first time last night and damn it's so good . I was playing on dolphin with an arcade stick plugged into a crt. definately underrated, the combat and movement feels tight, and art and sound design top notch .it's easily one of the best side scrolling shooters of all time

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>>3372598
>in Metroid you run and shoot
>you also explore a world like in adventure type games

They are both. To argue otherwise is pure stupidity.

>>3372675
>Golden Axe, Diablo and DMC are the same genre because you walk and slash!
yep, you are this retarded.

OP should literally just kill himself.

>>3372675
>>3372478
Calling Metroid a shooting game is like calling Zelda a slasher.

>>3372675
>>3372478
Yeah, especially the parts when:

—you roll around in tubes blowing stuff up with bombs
—you can't kill anyone until you get an upgrade to your only shooting weapon; then you kill everyone with 1 shot
—you shoot lethargic enemies which move like amoebas and don't attack
—you search for a new ability to unlock a door which leads to another new ability which unlocks another door which hopefully leads to the end of this fucking game

metal slug dude? Seriously?

>>3372714
Golden Axe is a beat em up, Diablo is a hack n slash RPG with a view that goes top down and DMC is a hack n slash action game with style/combo's as the main feature.

They have much more differences then Contra, Metal Slug and Metroid have. Stop being autistic.
>>3372723
How is Metroid not a shooter? You even get missile upgrades. If you take out the explorable world and replaced it with Conra's linear levels you get the same genre only with a different coat of paint.

You literally cannot say that for the three games previous anon described. Much more has to change before it becomes the same thing. You people are retarded and autistic.
>>3372726
Nope see above.

>>3372097
Cybernator.

Contra is great, but sometimes it gets a little boring and repetitive to me. Same with Metal Slug, which is honestly boring and repetitive as fuck.

Cybernator has: switchable weapons with different physics; weapon upgrades; dash, shield and jetpack abilities; fire direction lock; great plot and setting. All in all, it's one of the best shooting games I've played.

>>3372736
>They have much more differences
No they don't you autistic fuck, there is a reason Contra and MS are called run 'n gun while metroid just Action-Adventure or Adventure-sidescroller. Genres are defined by how the game plays, not by "what your character does", you retarded piece of shit.

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>>3372745
So mad yet so wrong. Only one autistic here is you fag. They are side scroller shooters or run n gun. Metroid just has the added thing of exploration which all what it really does is change the player from progressing through linear levels in the other games to exploring a single world to progress the game.

Are Skyrim, The Witcher and Dark Souls not action RPG's because they all are functionally different from one another? No they are still the same genre only with certain differences. Same thing here with Metroid you autistic whiny neckbearded manchild virgin. Take Contra or Metal Slug gameplay and put it in a single large explorable world level and you get literally the same thing as Metroid. The only real true huge difference between the games is either levels or level.

>>3372756
>Metroid just has the added thing of exploration which all what it really does is change the player from progressing through linear levels in the other games to exploring a single world to progress the game.
Oh so it ditched what makes a run 'n gun a run 'n gun, the arcade factor. You aren't very bright are you?

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>>3372760
The games are all side scroller shooters you ignorant as fuck jackass. Prove that they aren't before running your stupid mouth.

>>3372765
Again, side-scroller shooter isn't a genre per se, but a medium for different genres like run 'n guns, shoot 'em ups or even adventure games. Yep indeed you are a retarded piece of shit

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Hey /vr/, what's your favorite third-person shooter?

>>3372771
>side-scroller shooter

The vast majority of people will know what a person means when they say this.

side scroller = old 2D games
shooter = use a gun in the game

Only one here looking like the retard is you because you want to get all uber technical with your autistic nerdiness. All three are still technically side scrolling shooters where you shoot up enemies on a 2D plane.

>>3372780
>The vast majority of people will know what a person means when they say this.
Yes, something vague that doesn't specify a certain genre, since it could be any of them.

Let me guess, you are stupid enough to think side-scrollers are a genre too.

>>3372736
>How is Metroid not a shooter? You even get missile upgrades. If you take out the explorable world and replaced it with Conra's linear levels you get the same genre only with a different coat of paint.
Wow, you're seriously dumb.

The POINT of Contra is shooting and killing. The point of Metroid is EXPLORING.

Metroid enemies get revived when you leave the room. There's absolutely no point in shooting them, except to get health drops. Moreover, they're so slow and shitty, it's not even fun with most enemies. If you think the whole point is in shooting them, congratulations—you're retarded. Seriously. Go see a doctor but I guess there's no point. Maybe your mom didn't tell it to you, but you have mental deficiency.

> You even get missile upgrades.
Which are basically Zelda-style upgrades. You couldn't open some door or kill some enemies, now you can. They are not for combat. "Combat" in Metroid is nearly nonexistent, you either kill an enemy with 1 shot of a certain kind or you don't leave a scratch. Classic adventure pseudo-fighting.

> If you take out the explorable world and replaced it with Conra's linear levels you get the same genre only with a different coat of paint.

That's almost the whole fucking point. In Metroid, your objective it to navigate a labyrinth. Find exits, keys, etc. Enemies are just minor obstacles. Health only truly matters in boss fights; most "damage" comes not from combat, but from simply not having necessary upgrades or platformer elements.

In Contra, it's all about shooting. Kill or be killed. Not touching a bullet is all that matters. There's some platforming but not that much. There are always enemies around which you need skill to deal with, not some Zelda-style upgrade.

If you put Contra into a labyrinth with doors that need different key cards and super-easy enemies that you can simply disregard or kill with 1 shot, it'd become Metroid. Because you'd deliberately make it a labyrinth adventure.

>>3372773
Mario Kart 64

I love sniping people with Green Shells and especially a well timed Banana.

>>3372780
> side-scroller shooter
> The vast majority of people will know what a person means when they say this.

On this board, most people understand it to mean a game like Gradius, not Metal Slug or Contra, and definitely not Metroid.

>>3372097
Midnight Resistance is great, you can hold your direction a bit like a twin stick game which sets it apart a bit from other shooters.

The way you get to pick your upgrades at the end of a level with collected keys is nice. Shame the only weapon worth choosing is the flamethrower which makes it too easy since you can whip it around the screen.

Also the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7-AHModlMA

>>3372797
What is the difference between Gadius and Contra? Never played either before. Both are made by Konami and look the same.

>>3372765
Once again for all of you autists:

SHOOTING ISN'T THE POINT OF METROID

Shooting IS the whole point of Contra and Metal Slug, along with platforming.

>>3372745
He is either trolling or underage b&, maybe both.

>>3372806
>Both are made by Konami and look the same.
>look the same.
>Gradius looks like Contra
(You)

>>3372787
>Yes, something vague that doesn't specify a certain genre

Hence the point of the thread. Were you dropped on your head or something? Why are you so butthurt over these games being lumped together with the term side scrolling shooter when it fits perfectly with what all these games have to offer?

That is the entire point of the OP you massive fucking moron. It isn't about the games individually but about all of them being the best retro shooting games where you move only in 2D spaces.

God what an idiot.

>>3372818
(You)

>>3372821
There is literally an existing genre that those games are. It is called run n' gun. Metroid is not a run n' gun.

>>3372821
Because no one but an autistic fuck like you would compare Contra to Metroid, hence why we have "shoot 'em up threads", "run 'n gun threads" and not this retarded shit. SoTN plays very similar to Metroid even without a gun, that's because shooting was never the point of Metroid you stupid fuck.

>>3372821
Fuuuuuuck for the last fucking time: the point of Metroid isn't shooting. Shooting isn't the point of Metroid.

SHOOTING.
ISN'T.
THE.
POINT.
OF.
METROID.

Enemies get restored when you leave rooms. Killing them does nothing, it's either impossible or trivial. You have only 1 shooting weapon.

>>3372836
In Contra you only have one shooting weapon and the enemies are infinite

Metal Slug as a series is pretty terrible to be quite honest. It just looks great

Contra 3 actually has solid mechanics

Super Metroid is an amazing on a whole other level

>>3372809
>SHOOTING ISN'T THE POINT OF METROID

It's also not the point of MGS yet you can play it killing everyone like it's a shooter. Moot point m8.

Super Mario Bros is a sidescrolling shooter because you get the Fire Flower.

>>3372840
Most enemies aren't infinite and they don't get restored. Shooting them is essential to get forward and get a high score. You have multiple weapons in case you forgot http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Contra_(NES)/Weapons .

So, literally everything you said is bullshit.

>>3372828
Oh so did you prefer the OP to say these are the best side scrolling games where you also shoot enemies?

Stop being a derp. I easily understood OP so why can't you?

>>3372867
If those count as multiple weapons then samus has multiple weapons too

>>3372861
This is simply shit posting now. Samus has a gun arm just like Mega Man has. The function of this gun arm is to shoot enemies. Similar in concept to a regular gun in any other game.

>>3372859
Are you fucking kidding me? Have you even played MGS? If you play it like a 2D shooter, the guards will sound the alarm and most probably kill you immediately. Not to mention bosses like that shaman on a tank where direct approach will get you killed immediately.

The whole point of MGS is stealth action, outsmarting your enemies.

How hard is it to accept that shooters are games in which the most important point is shooting? Doom, Contra, Metal Slug, House of The Dead are shooters of different kind. Metroid and MGS are not.

>>3372871
Like what?

Rocket is just a better alternative to beam. Mostly used for doors and bosses. The whole point is that they deal more damage, so you load up on them before a boss.

Bomb is nearly useless to fight enemies.

All the meme upgrades change almost nothing, simply allowing you to kill new enemies you couldn't kill before or open new doors.

Compare this to Contra, where you have a flamethrower, machine gun, spread guns and so on. All have very different physics and feel to them.

>>3372879
That's it, I quit. It's rare to find a retard of your caliber on /vr/. Please stop posting altogether

Fantasia on Sega Genesis

>>3372904
You are just mad at the facts. You go left and right. You can jump, you can shoot. Case closed that's the similarities.

>>3372478

you're an idiot and any point you were trying to make ITT is lost in your stupidity