/cvg/ - Castlevania General

>>3339395
Uh, at this point I think we've gone full circle.


III is underrated, hardly anyone talk about it other than to say "hey, I'm so hardcore, I like III the best", but nobody really played it.
IV is for hardcore players because most people actually give up at stage 8, despite "whip is OP" shenanigan arguments.
X680000 is the neo-hipster choice.
And Rondo is the worse CastleKino because moe.

>>3339395
They probably stop playing at stage 8 because they get so bored by it, not because it's too difficult.

>>3339436

What about the rest, do you agree?

Also, you forgot to mention Amigavania, where does it fit on the scheme?

III's level design is actually perfection. No other 2D action platformer is that good in that regard.

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>>3339447
I disagree.

>>3339441
Amigavania was alright, considering it was handled by a bunch of amateurs.

I've played far worse games than it.

>>3339395
>and Rondo is the best Castlevania
That it is. Great taste, OP.

>>3339507
>Amigavania was alright

wut

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Has anyone got around to playing Spectral Interlude yet? It's quite a fun little fangame that drew inspiration from Simon's Quest, for the Speccy.

>>3339436
Just beat the game again two days ago. Honestly stage 7 is the only boring stage and 8 is the most bull other than that it's GOAT for what it did but personally not my mot favorite.

can we all just agree that bloodlines should just be connected to Haunted Castle as those are the only two games that Serena appeared in or better yet be it's own thing? I mean Bloodlines doesn't seem to be connect to anything else or at least should aside that one little appearance of Richter in PoR so why not.

>>3339680
Who's Serena?

>>3339572

Pretty elegant MS Word work, australia.

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>>3339725
The chick that Simon married in the Haunted Castle intro but stolen by Dracula and appeared no where else except for Bloodlines for whatever reason

>>3339759
I don't remember her being in Bloodlines, are you mistaking her for Carmilla?

>>3339395
>III is overrated
Nope.
>IV is for casuals
Nope. It's harder than Rondo or Bloodlines.
>X68000 is underappreciated
Yes.
>Rondo is the best
Nope.

You tried.

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>>3339762
Carmilla isn't in Bloodlines that's Elizabeth Bartley. I'm talking about pic related

>>3339803
>It's harder than Rondo or Bloodlines.
nice bait

>>3339395
Really? I quite liked III. Yes it was quite challenging, but I found it to be a satisfying game with a fair amount of replayability (I played it through completely twice, using different characters).

I've never played more than about 2 hours of IV, so I can't say much about it.

I played the Playstation port of the X68000 version, and thought it was quite good. Never completed it though.

Ronda was/is amazing. I have to admit that Rondo of Blood is top-tier pure/classic Castlevania. The music is engaging, the gameplay and controls are spot-on, and the graphics are quite enjoyable. Hard to see why it wasn't ported to everything under the sun.

>>3339395
>Let's discuss how III is overrated, IV is for casuals, X68000 is under-appreciated, and Rondo is the best Castlevania.

So... you want us to discuss how wrong you are?

>>3339804
Camilla might as well be Elizabeth Bathory, they're both based off the same character, a girl who'd bathe in blood.

My favorite is either the sega genesis one or the wiiware one.

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>>3339889
>the wiiware one.
My Negro of Blood. That game didn't deserve to fail like it did.

>>3339841

australia-kun is never wrong.... inside his autistic little world.

>tfw he will never use insane bait such as "amigavania is better than NES CV1" again

>>3339804
Pretty sure that is referencing Trevor Belmont and Sypha, not Chris Belmont and Serena.

It means that the canon partner for Dracula's Curse is Sypha.

Rondo is the only one I've ever fully beaten, is that normal? Also, I much prefer the classic whip control to the "Super Castlevania" control.

>>3339995

You should at least beat the original Castlevania.

>>3339995
Which ones besides RoB have you played so far, and why did you drop them?

Belmont's Revenge on the grey brick Game Boy was pretty all right. The default first stage has some pretty good music, it's set up like a Mega Man so that you can pick which stage to do first and
>Dr. Wily 1
Castle stage 1 has in my opinion the best song on the system.

>>3339901
It's been established for years that Trevor fought alongside all three of them and settled down with Sypha. Juste inherited her powers and her charm.

>>3339680
Actually that ghost dude from Portrait is Eric and Johnathan is the son of John.
Portrait goes right after Bloodlines chronologicaly

>>3340340
thats one trippy filter

>>3339395
>III is overrated

These are fighting words

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>>3340417

>>3339901
I thought that too but look at the stance that the belmont is making it's definitely Simon's (not Christopher) from the artwork of Castlevania 1 and title screen of Haunted Castle the game that Serena appeared in. Look at >>3339395 for reference.

>>3339901
He fought along side all of them.

He settles down with Sypha afterwards, and the Belmonts there after have magical powers, most prominent in Juste and Richter.

Alucard is distraught for having to kill his own father and puts himself to sleep for 300 years, awakening for the events of SotN.

Grant wanted to avenge his family and afterwards helped rebuild the city. Not much else is said.

>>3340340
>>3340875
That's not actually a filter, is it?

>>3340735
It wasn't that good of a game, mate.

Too many vertical levels and weird level designs.

>>3341148

That's why it's good

Shit's put together really well. They though a lot about how a player would have to get through things and didn't just slap enemies all over. And the sense of progression is really solid.

>>3339813
At its hardest I think it is.

>>3341148
Aside from the acid cave levels which are a bit tedious and the falling block levels--both of which are very much a minority--the level design is excellent.

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How come nobody talks about this classic?

>>3339572
Pretty fuckin' edgy. Everyone knows Haunted Castle is broken shit, and only reactionary hipsters seriously hate Symphony or IV.

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>>3341797
>broken shit
>he couldn't git gud

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>>3341785

Actually, /vr/ used to talk about it and how it's not as bad as most people meme about it, it's a decent attempt at 3D castlevania and its main flaw was the camera (something normal for 5th gen games), but the atmosphere was spot on. It tried some new stuff while still keeping the classic Castlevania motif.

it's miles better than Lord of Shadows, at any rate.

but in the state of Castlevania threads nowadays, we can't really discuss anything anymore, not unironically at least.

>>3341839
What a shame.

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SGDQ had a castlevania block yesterday and they had a CV64 speedrun with Reinhardt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DVuGGvd4xM

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>>3342713
>Maria's arm

>>3343457
Part of it is behind her dress

>>3339395
Is X86000 the same as Chronicles?

>>3343492

Chronicles includes the original X68000 version and an "Arranged" version which changed Simon's sprite and made it easier for beginners.

>>3343492
Original mode is, although you can't change what MIDI device you want.

Arrange mode is for millennial gamers.

>>3343496
Thanks

>>3343497
I prefer the sprite for Arrange mode, but don't want the decreased difficulty

Fuck, that sucks

>>3343510
Maybe you should ROMhack the Kojima design into both modes.

>>3343515
Yeah, it wouldn't be too difficult,but still, it's a pain the ass and I prefer playing on my Vita

>>3339424
X68k is awesome though, great 'Best Of' for the NES trilogy
Super is just too slow for me to be interested
Rondo is good but I prefer other games
Bloodlines is my favorite, that soundtrack and those levels
3 is really fun but fuck me, I can't pass level 9

>>3339579
what's a good speccy emu?

>>3343521

I was being sarcastic, I like pretty much all of them, but my fave is Rondo.

>>3343518
Are you the same guy that still plays DXC and Maverick Hunter X?

>>3339893
I just wish it didn't ape the classics so much. I like CV games more when they do more of their own thing. I think it was the overuse of remixes that did it for me. Okay, put one or maybe two classic songs in the game but don't make the entire soundtrack out of remixes.

>>3343529
First time I've posted in /cvg/, but I did play both on the Vita recently

>>3343543
DXC is pretty good, if only as a 'definitive collection' for the included Rondo and Symphony.

>>3343552
I honestly think DXC is a bit better than RoB, minus the graphics and decreased difficulty. The controls are way tighter and the backflip is a lot more useful since you can use it during any part of the jump, though that could be seen as a detriment

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>>3343562
Honestly, I thought DXC was harder than RoB, the new additions were great.

>>3343568
The improved controls really do play a difference in a difficulty for me. Annette was actually pretty hard though, come to think of it.

>>3343589
It was a nice touch adding her boss, as a reference to what happens in the underrated SNES game.

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>>3343562
I think I'd give graphics to DXC if just for how much more detail they were able to cram into the stage backgrounds compared to the original, fleshing the designs out a lot. Like in the original game, pic related is just a normal brick floor that a blood skeleton rises out of, while the remake gives you the pile of stained bones as a visual cue. Same for the platform above, which is just normal floating brick in the original.

Though I also have kind of a hard on for low-poly games, so I'm probably biased.
>>3343529
That's me anon, if you're talking about my post in the remake thread. They're both fun, pick up and play games so I'll usually do a few playthroughs of both a year.

IV is the best BY FAR.

>>3343532
I mean it's a remake of Castlevania The Adventure.

>>3343938
F*ck off, Arsetralia-kun.

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What do ya'll think of the best Castleroid?

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>>3345429
Don't you mean Akumajō-bananarama?

>>3345442
What's this epic new maymay?

I only like the ones with Simon

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>>3345469
Simon is the most hardcore Belmont, for sure.

>kills Dracula once
>decides to kill Dracula again, while slowly dying of leprosy, by collecting his parts, summoning him, and then slaying him

Richter gets props for looking mighty snazzy, though.

>>3343457
Haven't you played Rondo?

\Here we go boys, final POWER RANKINGS, straight offa the presses:

1.SotN
2.Rondo
4.Castevania 3
5.Bloodlines
6.SCIV
7
8

2354235.iyp 2 high to ginjish thiss shit

>>3346619
>2354235.iyp 2 high to ginjish thiss shit
what did he mean by this

How to play SOTN?
I tried playing it last year but died at the first boss in Alchemist Lab and just picked it up again couple of days back.

There are SO many things that Alucard picks up that I dont remember that I picked them and dont know what each of them do and when am I going to be needing them. Also there are a LOT of places that I cannot reach (cant jump high enough) that I have to leave those rooms unvisited.

tl;dr
I am overwhelmed by so many items and yet need more items to advance in game...

>>3347016

>There are SO many things that Alucard picks up that I dont remember that I picked them and dont know what each of them do and when am I going to be needing them.

If it's weapons, just equip whatever is the one that gives you better stats like in any RPG.
Other than weapons, you have to collect the different orbs that let you transform into a wolf, bat, mist, and you need to manually activate them at the menu as well.

Eventually you will be able to reach high pleaces, either with bat form, or when you get the ability to do a super high jump.

Just keep checking the map for places you haven't visited yet.

>>3347057
>like in any RPG
its my first RPG probably thats why i am in this situation

>>3347076

It's easy enough, just equip them weapon, and see if the arrow besides the numbers goes up or down, you always want them to go up.

>>3339572
So you hate Castlevania III on NES, but what about the JP original?

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>>3347568
Yeah, because all the Castlevania games after IV abused mode7 and rotation mechanics.

>>3347579
>>3347587

>replying to australia-kun's dead posts

>>3345429
I loved the soul collecting, hated the touch screen seals though.

>>3340340
>>3340875
What is this ?

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>>3347587
All games after IV did let you aim your whip though; granted, not to the same degree as IV, which was pretty broken, but still none of the later games used the same controls as the NES games. Bloodlines came pretty close, but you can still whip grapple and such.

>>3339395
When did Dracula get the partially-iconic facial hair he has nowadays?

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>>3347645

Probably from Bela Lugosi

>>3347595
>touch screen seals
He didn't post Dawn of Sorrow.

>>3347645
He was clean shaven, Bela Lugosi style in all the games up til Symphony of the Night when Ayami Kojima gave him an older, more regal look.

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Anyone have a favorite Belmont? I like Simon the most because even though he wasn't the strongest Dracula on the other hand was at his peak so far possibly ever and none of that early resurrection bullshit that lessens his power. So he went full force on Simon having to go through the most shit ever that a Belmont had to ever and by himself no less. Not only once but two times with the latter being worse because of the curse that was put on him. Sure Richter or Julius might have been the most powerful making it more of a cake walk but it isn't so much of an accomplishing feat like what Simon did on the other hand by surviving through so much. Sure it could be argued that Trevor could have went through worse but he had friends on his side.

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>>3347685
Best Belmont.

Too bad IGA hated her and had her game cancelled in favor of Lament of Innocence.

>>3347792
[citation needed]

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>>3347817
Didn't you know? IGA was not only responsible for having Castlevania Resurrection killed off, but also for Castlevania: The Bloodletting being shitcanned in favor of getting merged in with the SotN Project.

If not for IGA, we could've possibly got not only the best 2D game in the series, but the best 3D game as well.

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>>3339395
I'll just leave this here.

>>3347834
I heard he also forced Konami to make Lords of Shadow, convinced them to rush MGSV's development, told Nintendo the Wii U was a good name, and masterminded the Holocaust.

>>3347983
Damn. Igarashi is one evil mofo.

>>3347983
>and masterminded the Holocaust.

>implying a nip would nuke his own home

>>3348169
IGA is a slimy bastard

I could deal with his off personality if they actually allowed him to be useful and take down some monsters.

Report and hide guys, don't feed him.

I can not get a 68k emulator to work for the life of me, I tried using Mame and Winx68 High speed but I get nothing

>>3350331
He mad.

>>3350386
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/XM6_TypeG

Use this, familia.

Keep at it lil' janny, you'll defeat that big bad evil Australian!

>>3350393

You're descending into serious madness, Australia.

>>3350390
>http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/XM6_TypeG
Thanks!

I'm getting sound but no video, any idea?

>>3350397
Wait I just wasn't waiting long enough.

WE'RE ALL SYSTEMS GO

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What's your favorite Castlevania ripoff, /vr/?

>>3350393
i love how even the janny is 100% aware of your shit baits now

>>3339579
"inspiration" is an understatement, it's basically a rom hack of a port
Pass

>>3350404

SCIV :^)

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>>>/vg/147701948

>>3351003
Whoops, meant
>>>/vg/148091789

>>3351010

>>148104820

lol, even /vg/ know about australia-kun

How can I play Haunted Castle with save states? Do I have to emulate the ps2 version? Is it Japanese only? Is there a retroarch or standalone option to play the arcade version? Mame? I've never used Mame but I read that it doesn't support save states? So I'm leaning for pcsx2 at the moment, unless you got a better option.
> in before he emulates
> in before he cheats
> in before he uses retroarch

>>3350920
Goddamn I hate the Australia meme but that right there cringed me so hard.

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>Australia trolling the fuck outta /vr/ yet again

>>3351521

At this point nobody falls for his shit anymore, it's just people telling him to fuck off, and him bitching about janny deleting his shitposts.

If you want to see the golden age of Australia-kun shitposting, search in the archive for last year threads when he started the whole "bloodlines is for edgy yanks and Sega is pronounced "sea-guh". Those were the times.

>>3351527
>implying people aren't just shitposting about castlevania knowing that /vr/ is so easily rused

>>3351537

This thread is pretty civil, even if it started as an obvious bait, all things considered.

Is an Eric Lecarde playthrough in Bloodlines considered easy-mode by the community, like playing Maria in Rondo?

>>3351805
>community

Whatever community you're referring to, you won't find on /vr/

Try the castlevania dungeon forums.

>>3347568

Oh no you di'n!!

What's the best way to play SOTN emulated? Is it better to emulate the PSX version or does DXC have enough improvements to make it worthwhile?

>>3352023
PS1 with Mednafen. PSP version replaces the iconic and campy voice acting/script with a boring one.

>>3352023
People will shit on the DXC version, but I really enjoy the new dub and having the Maria mode. There's not much else separating it from the original though.

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>>3351805
Eric does 2x less damage than John, so I wouldn't quite call him easy mode.

>>3352023
SSF+Nocturne in the Moonlight. It has the most content of all the versions.

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>>3352052
I view SOTN like a view Resident Evil 4: I like the game in a bubble, but I hate it for the precedent it set for all future titles in the series. My only complaint was it being overall too easy.

>>3352049
What's the advantage then, if any? Increased range? Faster attack speed?

>>3352049
>SSF+Nocturne in the Moonlight. It has the most content of all the versions.

DO NOT LISTEN.

Play PSP version, Xbox live version (if you can) or PS1 emulated. Get an emulator that can do overlclocking, as it removes slowdown.

>>3352072
He can aim in any direction, also he has a SMB2-style superjump.

>>3352083
>DO NOT LISTEN.
Why not? It has...

>exclusive map areas
>the best Maria mode
>new music tracks
>better Richter sprite
>more items
>more familiars

Saturn version is best, if you can ignore the technical issues.

>>3341839
I know this isn't a popular opinion but I liked the part where you had to carry the nitro without getting hit, pretty tense at some parts

>>3352175

It wasn't even that big of a deal if you know the correct way, but yeah, not being able to even make a small jump puts a lot of tension and makes most people lose their shit, but it wasn't remotely the hardest part of the game. That'd be the tower of sorcery.

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I'm never getting past this. Gotten to Death a grand total of one (1) time with continues and 1/3 of my health. Spend like 3 hours or so on this level.

>>3352403
I found Medusa's and Wolflady's stages to be way harder than Death's desu.

>>3352403
with zero continues*
>>3352418
Medusa's had me tearing my hair out too, but not to this extent.

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Vertical classicvania levels were a mistake

>>3352627

ゲットグッド

>>3352627
No, but meme filters were

>>3352627
Just transform into a bat and fly through them.

>>3339759
I think the more that's forgotten about Haunted Castle, the better. Fuck that fucking game, holy shit such a quarter stealing bullshit game. The only thing it did right was the music.

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>>3352646
Why is it every time someone posts a screenshot with filters, some smartass anon has to point it out? Nobody actually cares. Go to /emugen/ to bitch about shit like that.

>>3350404
Rusty on PC-98.

>>3352697
Great choice anon.

>Everyone praising Rondo

Why the heck does this game get so much merit? It's got some of the flattest and most bland stage design in the series. III, IV, and X68000 have far more interesting and varied stages

I don't think Rondo is a bad game, I just don't understand why it's so highly praised all the time

Though I have a huge soft spot for Bloodlines

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>>3350404

Ninja Gaiden

>>3352720
Because it has great boss fights, lots of secrets, awesome music, and you can play as an oppai loli.

>>3352720
>Cleverly hidden secrets
>Best sprites
>Best music
>90s anime cutscenes this is a wholly subjective point though. I can see why some may hate them
>No bullshit deaths
>Memorable stages like the pirate ship or the minotaur chase

To be fair, I can't compare the merits of Rondo to III or X68000, and it's been years since I played IV. However it's a fine platformer in its own right.

>>3352697
How does that version stack up to the DOS release?

>>3352782
exactly the same save for a few missing sound effects on the dos version.

>>3352807
You by chance have a solid download link for me? Only working link I can find is
http://vetusware.com/download/Rusty%201%20JA/?id=10542, but I've never downloaded through these guys before.

>>3352774
>>No bullshit deaths
What about the portrait that can instakill you?

>>3352882
That's a good point actually. Fuck that portrait.

>>3339395
Goddamn i love that cover so much id fuck it.
Castlevania is the perfect game.

I have played so much SOTN in the past week that I just see alucard jumping and swinging his sword.

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It's always going to be Castlevania IV for me.

It perfectly captures the vibe of the Universal / Hammer Horror classics which the original games were so clearly influenced by.

If I want to be playing a Castlevania game in the dark after midnight, I know which I'd chose.

>>3347610
It looks like that 3d NES emulator.

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>>3352697
I like Rusty.

Rumor has it that it was originally supposed to be a PC port of Rondo of Blood, but they lost the license.

Anyone here ever play 8 Eyes?

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>>3356881
You're a cool dude, anon. I don't have an appropriate reaction image on my phone ; take this cap.

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Can someone recommend me a good Castlevania game? I just finished SoTN and it was incredibly underwhelming. Bosses were piss easy, level design is alright, music is good, but the game is way too short. I thought by beating Belmont I was atleast half way through the game. but nope, he's the final boss.
I have to put this game as worst of all time, next to Sonic Adventure.

>>3357148

OMG anon! You don't know about the inverted castle! tee-hee!!

>>3352049
What the fuck is wrong with his left hand? That's some Popeye ass shit

>>3357152
Wait what

>>3356913
>8 eyes
It's shit

>>3357170
Killing Richter is the bad ending and only shows shows you half the game. You'll be needing a set of rings to progress to the second half.

Vampire's Kiss (EU Dracula X) is incredibly underrated. I'm angry at myself that it's taken me so long to realise this. But it's true.

People complain that the level design and difficulty is weak compared to previous titles, or Rondo on the PC engine, but I have to disagree- Like any Castlevania should be, it's punishing if you rush and doesn't allow you too many mistakes, but if you get into the rhythm it's exhilarating, it's tight and intense in a way that SCIV definitely wasn't.

Not to mention the graphics and soundtrack are amongst the best in the entire series, perhaps the best of any classicvania. Great game.

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>>3357228
Beat the 'true ending'. I still stand by what I said

>>3357148
Ritcher is not the final boss. Killing him just gives you a bad ending, and you miss out on over half the game.

>>3360310
What percentage is your save at?

>>3360921
About 180%.

>>3361026
You need at least 196% to get the true ending, I believe.

>>3361232
Are you sure it's not 200.6%?

Dear SOTNfags, what is the purpose of the dog form?
I'm loving this game so much, I'd be playing if I wasn't at work.
Have a good day.

>>3362103

go fast, can also jump higher before you get the double jump.

t. not a SOTNfag but I still know my shit

>>3362001
So she falls for a guy she just met. Typical Stacy.

>>3347016
How is this even possible? SOTN is propably easiest Castlevania ever.

>>3351043
New mame has save states.

>>3355043
I the first half of the game is bland as fuck. people dont like mucking through bland caves twice with boring music for half the game

I like the atmosphere better but it's also really easy

>>3355043
>>3363303
i kind of detest SCIV

it's just so drab and boring

>>3348169
Are you implying that Hitler dropped the a bombs? Or that the US masterminded the holocaust?

>>3362001
200.6% just means you visited every single nook and cranny of the game. You only need 196% for the true ending.

>>3363312
whynotboth.jpg.killyourself

>>3363678
>Map percentage doesn't affect ending. You get the true ending as long as you kill Dracula, that's it.

There are TWO different endings after killing dracula. One if you have less than 196%, and one if you have 196% or more. This is a fact.

>>3363678
>>3363730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmGTgraKI4

>>3357169
Ayami Kojima's a self taught artist with no formal training, so her earlier work tends to have issues with proportions and perspective. It's less obvious but still there to a lesser degree in her newer stuff.

>>3340340
Is this from the "glEnd of NES" guy?

Another weekend, another australia-kun shitposting marathon.

>>3363923
I don't get it, why can't /vr/ have a single decent castlevania thread?

>>3356913
Picked it up on a whim and it's become one of my top NES games since.

>>3356913
Looks awesome, might give it a try when I get home

>>3352627
Ones where you go down were, but up ones weren't so bad. What game is this BTW? Looks like SCIV.

>>3367338

That's CVIII.

>>3367350
Wow, looks good for a NES game.

>Richter wears a headban and shirt with ripped sleeves
>Promo art/Dialogue portrait shows an elegant suit with a collar, long hair and no headband
???

>>3367350
Do you mean Castlevania VIII or Castle Vania III?

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>>3367508

Richter's sprite was based on the original RoB design, but Ayami Kojima redesigned him for SOTN. I believe there was a romhack that changed richter's sprite to match Kojima's design. Or maybe it was the Saturn version.

Pic related is his original design for Dracula XX.

What's your favourite anagram of "Belmont"? Mine is "Molbent".

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>>3367350
>>3367491
>>3367591
I'm the guy who posted that. It's Akumajō Densetsu (Japanese Castlevania 3) with the CRT Glow Gauss NTSC 3-Phase shader and the BMF-Final 2 palette.

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We should talk
About how underrated this is, it's not even the same game as rondo of
Blood, it's different enough to not be a port, and it's a damn good castlevania game at that, if very challenging.

>>3367762
Shame the music is shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKXJzwjfcZ8

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1W_OsAc6k

>>3367771

Nah, it's not shite.
I like both versions, some of them I like better on Rondo, but others I like better on Dracula X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzrvBANyArs
I really, REALLY love these synth guitar arrangements that start around the part in 1:03

Compare to the original version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR0UjAQIX6E

It still sounds great, but it's missing these extra guitar arrangements, it sounds more tame in comparison. Doesn't pump me nearly as much.

>>3367762
I agree, it's a great game, I still like Rondo more, but Dracula X is pretty damn good. I really can't understand why people who love Rondo hate Dracula X, it feels like an extension of it, with more challenging levels. I don't care if it's underrated anyway, I can still enjoy it so who cares? but yeah it's weird the amount of hate it gets.
Also, it's expensive as fuck. I regret selling it. At least I still got the manual.

>>3368210


yeah, well, that's your opinion, I'll be enjoying my better arrangement, and also the original when I feel like it. Have fun having your polarized opinions where everything is either great or "shite".

>>3368210
>not liking sample-based vidya OSTs

SNES and Amiga ftw

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I have a stupid question: Does anyone ever speed run SotN all bosses with PSP Maria? I wanna know if there's a faster way to kill Galamoth with her.

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>>3339395
>X68000 is under-appreciated
I can agree with this.

I love Rondo of Blood and SotN, but god damn the fanboys of them are annoying. You're always the biggest shitposters and losers in any Castlevania discussion anywhere on the internet.
>THE CASTLEVANIA I LIKE THE MOST IS THE BEST
>MUH OPINIONS

>>3367987
>synth guitar arrangements

The SNES didn't produce synth at all.

>>3339460
Honestly, Rondo and III are my favorites but this level is just plain awful.Why is everything amazing but this?

>>3345429
I love Order of Ecclessia.

>>3352627
I can beat this level with nothing but Sypha without a power up. Git gud.

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>>3369156

No, since max hearts is 99, I didn't find any efficient way to kill him other than standing here and spamming doves.

Also, anyone knows what's the max % you can get with Maria and Richter? Some places you can obviously not go (spiked corridors).

>>3369213

I guess he meant synth guitar samples.

Synth guitars are actually a thing.

Also I can see what he means, on the Rondo track you can't hear those, or if they're there, they can't be heard due to the mixing.

Order of Ecclessia looks fucking nuts with all those powers and the mission structure.

How are the lesser-spoken GBA games though, CotM and particularly Harmony of Disonnance?
Do they do anything particularly different to differentiate themselves from the formula that Symphony and Aria seem to be following?

>>3341785
Because we all got stuck in the villa, the maze, or castle center and gave up.

Playing through it again as an adult with actual patience shows this game in a whole new light, I'm loving it.

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>>3369997

>preferring random kung fu Maria over original Rondo Maria's moveset with all upgraded animal summons and Jojo-style Dark Maria stand

>>3370039

Let's be honest here, Richter and Maria don't work in SOTN period, playing as them, in either PSP or Saturn (or PS1 in Richter's case) feels stupid, you're just walking through corridors so you can fight bosses that you can either kill too fast or cheese too slow, and the reward is a fucking HP refill. All the items you collect with Alucard are now 1 (ONE) heart, wow.

I'm being a bit sarcastic but I mean, yeah, Richter and Maria modes are just to fuck around on the castle, but it doesn't work. The game is meant to be played with Alucard, get upgrades, items, solve puzzles, etc. Richter and Maria are an afterthought, that's nice that exist for people who want to play more, but it's not a great experience.

>>3370090
I wish that I was into CV when SoTN came out; being forced to value stuff more and experiment with the bonus modes.
Richter's moveset is fucking awesome and if I were patient I'd have played a full run like that back in the day.

I never mess with crap like LeonA/ClaireB -> ClaireA/LeonB -> Tofu Mission or etc, I just do ClaireA and move onto my next game because my backlog is enormous and I have a lot of disposable income even though I live on my own.
Sorry for offtopic.

>>3370118

Yeah I'm actually not saying Saturn Maria isn't fun on its own right, the super jump is indeed better since you can do it diagonally, just like Alucard.
I still like PSP Maria more though, but anyway, in both cases it just feels like playing as her, or Richter, doesn't make much sense. It's a poor experience and only interesting as a novelty for someone who already likes the normal game a lot.

>>3339395
is out there any translation of rondo that i can play on an emu?

>>3370852
Yes, there's a translation of the PC Engine release that o reccomend you emulate with Mednafen. Google it

>>3370146
Agreed, the Maria FIGHT is the best part of the enhanced ports.

>>3370039
>underpowered
Galamoth is the only boss that isn't killable in a matter of seconds with the right sub weapon.

>less smooth controls
>not enjoying Air Dash: the Character

>R of B
>S of the N
> L of D
>C of the M
>H of D
>L of I
>A of S
>D of S
>P of R
>O of E
>H of D
>L of S
>L of S: M of F
>L of S 2
>B: R of the N

Why is this considered acceptable?

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>>3371793

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Where can i get this piece of shit in Castlevania II Simon's quest?

i really need a fucking map of this game, but i can't find a good one on internet

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>>3372696

are any of the gba castlevanias bad

>>3372721
Harmony of Dissonance is pretty underhelming but it isn't bad.

>>3363303
>>3363376
>waaah boring!
Top tier arguments here.

>>3372721
>>3372739

Circle of the Moon is the worst. Not bad bad, but still bad.

>>3372753

it's opinions, not arguments.

>>3372769

>it's a bad game.

This is a meme opinion.

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>>3372696
>>3372706
Finally, that was cryptic as fuck.
parts like this really makes me sick and tired

>inb4 nice blog faggot

>>3372793

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>3372793
australia-kun ruined my ability to say i dont like SCIV on /vr/

i hate him so much

>>3372837
Hi Australia-kun! I'm Australia-kun! Australia-kun, Australia-kun! AUSTRALIA-KUN, AUSTRALIA-KUN
KUN, KUN, KUN, KUN
WATASHI NO KARE WA SHITPOSTER

>>3372831

That's correct. Australia-kun forced his shit so much that we can't even talk about the game anymore, either positively or negatively. In the end I guess he won in that regard. But Castlevania is the least of the problems with him, his whole "yanks" shitposting and PAL vs NTSC bullshit is way worse.

>>3372837
Fuck off, Australia-kun.

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So I just beat this with the best ending.
However, when I fought Galamoth, I had gotten fed up of dying over and over and just sprinted through and vaulted over its head, landed on the platform you see here, and just wailed on it.

However, it refused to attack.
I don't know if my constant attacking had stunlocked it perhaps, or if the boss was glitched, but I never once took a single sliver of damage.
Thought I'd share, in case this would help any speedrunners or what have you.

I loved this game, it's the first CV I've played to completion - or played at all - besides CV1.
I'm not sure if I'll move onto Aria of Sorrow or take a break until Bloodstained is out, but I want to thank you guys for a few tips you've thrown out here and there.
So, thanks.

>>3372864

Yeah that's a common strategy against Galamoth.
I don't remember how I beat him the first time with Alucard, but recently when I played as Maria (PSP) I had to do that.

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>>3372696
>>3372706
>>3372794

;_;

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>>3372864
Aria is a GBA SOTN, if you liked the game you'll like aria it's very similar, speedrunning was a mistake it's a lot more engaging to complete the game with everything, in aria some of the souls are really hard to collect.

Linear castlevania and metroidvania are two different animals some of the most fun I had with a castlevania it's been using the whip to kill everything in my way from point A to point B instead of exploring.

Castlevania legends on the GB it's criminally underrated it has good music and good level design with an interesting story. That's non cannon, cause it will make Simon an inbreed bastard.

>>3373038
I'm trying Aria now and it seems nice, the soul system seems like a smart way of limiting what you can/can't do.
Something about emulating this game in fullscreen is killing my eyes.
There's a spoken line of dialogue that the girl says whenever you finish speaking with her, what is she saying?
Also it feels weird not being able to backdash as much as I want anymore.

Soma's walk animation sucks

>>3374084
>hurting my eyes
Is it the colors? Make sure to toggle on the Color Desaturation setting in your emulator. GBA were usually over saturated to compensate for the original GBAs lack of backlighting.

So which Castlevania is the best?

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>>3374214

>>3339395
Rondo is garbage. I'm currently playing it and it is extremely limited for no reason. They went backwards in design.

IV is the best old style castlevania by far.

>>3374221
>>3374248

Don't start this shit again, you'll lure Australia-kun out again.

It's bizarre how kiddies discussing igavanias are more civil than old farts discussing the classics.

>>3374257
But I just wanna get into Castlevania games.

That's like saying playing a game without cheat codes is a regression in design. SCIV enemies aren't balanced around the 8 directional whipping; it's the same as cheating.

>>3374263
meant for>>3374248

>>3374221
My favourite ofc

>>3374263

>SCIV enemies aren't balanced around the 8 directional whipping

90% of the bats that attack you come flying in a diagonal line, though. Unlike all others games where they fly horizontally.

Also, Bloodlines implemented diagonal whip, and it doesn't have bats that come flying at you diagonally, so technically, Bloodlines is even less balanced than IV.

Anyway, what's the point in discussing this at this point? We know that not everybody likes Castlevania IV, hell, not everybody even likes classicvania, some people only like the metroidvania ones. Learn to deal with other people's tastes. You can make up bullshit reasons as to why "this game is objectively bad", but they'll still be subjective, and other people will find your opinion utterly wrong. You just need to deal with it instead of being autistic and posting the same shit over and over.

Which Castlevania was the best in music?

>>3374342

The answer is: All of them

>>3374226
This would have been nice to know when I played Mother 3 and FFTA.
Thanks.

>>3371104
i've found online a translated version of Rondo but it haves the main title still in japanese and the first movie haves a german voiceover. is this the only version or there's one better? cuz i think i have seen a main screen of rondo fully translated to english.

>>3374342
have you tried the japanese version of castlevania 3?

>>3374214
not a thing in mgba ;_;

After like 15 years of playing the first castlevania, I finally beat it the other day.
Fuck death. The behavior for the Sickles he throws out is extremely questionable.
Was able to blaze through 2 and 3 in one day tho.
And you guys was right about 2. Literally *impossible* without a walk through.

>>3374931
Hence why it had quite a bit of guides and coverage. Congrats on Castlevania, Death is literally the wall for most people(myself included). What gets me is that after you beat him it is still possible to die because of lingering sickles. Happened to me, and I just stopped playing that day.

>had no idea you could interact with the confession booth in SoTN
That's cool as hell.

>>3375063

Also try sitting Alucard on a chair and wait, he'll fall asleep. If you have the faeri familiar, she'll sit on Alucard's shoulder.
If you have the JP/PSP version, use the fairy familiar, and she'll sing this song while he sleeps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpmFMsmpRs

>>3374931
>>3374964
>everyone struggles with death
>i just struggle with dracula
why me

>>3374263
lol what? It's not balanced period.

Thanks to the fact that your whip is fucked, there's almost no point in using it. You are literally better off getting the axe or cross and using nothing but that and the axe only comes as an option because of how many bullshit areas have monsters fucking you from above and horizontally with no way to defend yourself.

>>3375130

You can beat Death easily without the holy water?

I can beat him with the cross, but it still can take a lot of tries, depending on the scythes patterns and my ability to dodge them properly.
Dracula is indeed a hard boss though, if you don't count Death due to holy water, Dracula is the hardest.

>>3375146
i do kill him with the holy water, yes

As someone who wants to get started in the series, and only did Dawn of Sorrow and III, what game should I do next ?

>>3375160

The original

>Did Dawn of Sorrow but not Aria
Well it's pointless now.
CV1, Rondo, SOTN or Ecclessia, all are good directions to go.

So the series is dead since Konami said "fuck off" to non-mobile gaming?

>>3375212

I considered CV dead since the classics stopped being made, then Konami hired M2 to make Adventure Rebirth on WiiWare.

Never say never, but for the most part, yeah.
Konami's talent all left already.

>>3375217

You know, the characters of Dracula and Alucard are not owned by Konami, I'm pretty sure the copyrights are long expired at this point. Iga, do something

>>3375235
>Iga, do something

He's doing a kickstarter project, doing a Metroidvania that's basically SOTN with 3D graphics like the Rondo remake on PSP.

Anyway if you mean use the Dracula and Alucard names to build new characters around them, yeah he could.

>>3339395
The best Castlevania is Aria of Sorrow, but that's not /vr/

>>3375291
Playing it right now and it wasn't until I met Hammer that I realized there was no Throwing dagger/Holy water/etc.

Times have changed.

>>3375350
Your soul weapons take the place of them yeah. But either way the classic subweapons come back in Julius mode.

>>3375258

Bloodstained is 3D? I thought it was all hand-drawn 2D

>>3375362
It's 3D.

the first "screenshots" they showed last year were concept art.

I got curious and started playing Castlevania II, the redacted version, and that was unbearable. A stark contrast coming from good games like 68k and Castlevania I.

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Oh shit niggers Castlevania is 30 this year

>>3375379
You mean the "screenshots" that were clearly labeled as being concept art from the beginning, along with a preliminary statement that the game would be done using Unreal Engine 4?

>>3375482

A lot of people just saw the pics and assumed the game would be 2D, like >>3375362 I guess.

>>3375498
I just don't understand how there are still people who are confused about that. It's been over six months since we saw the first in-game screenshots, and they've shown off a whole demo since then that was pretty popular at E3.

>>3375498
:( like me, too

>>3375690

A lot of people just don't keep up with stuff. I can understand how they could have gotten confused about it.

Aria of Sorrow feels really easy

>>3376268
All of the Igavanias are easy, except OoE

The soul system is nice and all but the 3 IGAvanias following SOTN feel like they lack the grandiose nature of that game.
Handheld limitations and 2 buttons certainly didn't make it easy on the devs, but I'm just not feeling it yet.

Are ANY of the 3D games good?

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>>3377495
Legacy of Darkness is pretty fun but heavily flawed, the PS2 games are kinda boring, and Lords of Shadow games don't feel very Castlevania-y.

>>3377495
Lament of Innocence is pretty good. LoS 1 and 2 are both God of War clones with little gameplay resemblance to the previous entries, 3D or otherwise. They're both alright though.

You should really play the DS games though if you haven't already. DoS is going to feel the most derivative but PoR and OoE both have really cool shit going for them. OoE is also pretty fucking hard compared to the other Igavanias.

Castlevania is not a particularly popular franchise but it does have quite a history.
With that in mind, I wanted to know if there were any well-made rip offs...?
I've always considered Ghouls & Ghosts as a competitor to the CV games, for one.

Much like Shin Megami Tensei inspired a lot of odd stuff and yet remains very niche, there has to be some good stuff out there that isn't just 8bit indie steam crap. SNES-era preferred.

I've been blasting though these on an emulator where I have saving and loading states set to the thumbsticks and using them aggressively. I've done 1, 2,3 4 and am currently at Dracula X, the music in this one is great,

>>3378815
>Castlevania is not a particularly popular franchise
What?
Anyways, Volgarr the Viking is pretty good for a modern rip-off/homage. If you want something older, try Rusty on DOS
>>3379251
triggered

>>3378815
Try 8 Eyes if you want a contemporary game, or Odallus for something more modern.

why is the japanese version of CV3 so based?

>>3379654
Objectively higher quality music, better difficulty curve and no censorship.

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>>3363303
>boring music
Jesus H. Christ

>>3379741
Outside of Simon's Theme, most of the songs are really uninspired and too ambient, whereas the previous Castlevania games all had catchy and memorable music in their soundtracks.

>>3379251
OK, finished X and now just finished Bloodlines. Bloodlines does a good job of showing the differences between Sega and Nintendo at that stage.

I like the sweet whip control in 4, it's sad it's missing from some others. I want to whip up and down and then shake it all about, the sprites and stuff in 4 are a bit big and odd sometimes for my liking though. Also Bloodlines just has some weird stuff in it. That clockwork boss was whacked out.

I know this is unpopular opinion but I loved "Curse of Darkness"

>I actually dislike Innocent Devils though

>I dream of seeing one day a 2D castlevania on PC where you can aim the whip with your mouse

>>3379976
I've never played it but I've been watching footage and it looks appropriately edgy and interesting.
Does it function like a Devil May Cry kind of game?

>>3380665
It doesn't have nearly the level of combat depth that DMC1/3/4 have. It's more like Darksiders or God of War, with more RPG elements.

>>3379827

>the chandeliers
>the submerged city
>the forest of monsters

>not catchy and memorable

Also you don't really know what ambient means.

>>3380710
It's more ambient than CV1 or CV3, for sure.

Compare this forest theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rfGy-V6hJc

With IV's forest theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPsvupFjMWM

The latter is boring as fuck all.

>>3380731

Mad Forest is great, I love how it starts kinda like a samba.

But hey, you're under-appreciating Forest of Monsters. It doesn't sound boring at all to me, it's pretty pumping, especially the bassline and percussion. Both are great forest tracks to me, whether you prefer, both are good stuff.

>>3380707
Actually I take that back. It's more like Nier/Drakengard, without the good music, writing, voice acting or plot.

>>3345429
Why do so many fans hate Circle, anyway? Is it because of "not muh belmonts"/"not muh soma" shit?

>>3356913
8 Eyes is so fucking bad.

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Favorite Vania, coming through.

>>3380871
Man I fucking love Shaman King.

Polish dub fucking rocks!

>>3374572
Riddle is soo good

>>3380871
You know, these games weren't too bad. Piss easy, though.

>>3380853

I hate it because the Neptune/Thunderbird DSS combo trivializes almost every single challenge in the game. Once you get it, you can beat every single boss just by spamming it, and the only thing you can't clear with it is the Battle Arena (because they forcibly take away your MP).

Also Nathan sucks as a protagonist and the dialogue is boring.

Aria is just a much better Advance game all around.

>>3347834
it wouldn't surprise me, he looks like a total arsehole

>>3380987
He kind of is. And sexist, too!

>>3381004
>And sexist, too!
?

>>3381013
He refuses to have female protagonists leading games (supporting roles are fine), and directly stated that Sonia Belmont (and the entire game she featured in) is no longer canon because a woman couldn't possibly be the protagonist in the game's time period. He also said Legends is "an embarrassment," and that the whole development team who worked on it was "misguided."

Dude's a bit of a dick.

>>3381030
>the whole development team who worked on it was "misguided."
>this fucking revision of Bloody Tears
>misguided in any way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8FH8NI4U4Y

>>3381030
>Order of Ecclessia
>Bloodstained
>PoR sisters
ayyy

Chronicles arrange mode is deep and 2 is still great. Dx rondo and sotn are still 1 and 2 of all time.

>>3381074
Meant to say 1 is still great. Bloodlines would be op if it weren't for the stomach churning parallax.

I just came here to say that portrait of ruin is the worst of all time by far

>>3381085
>not judgement
>not mirror of fate
>not Amigavania
>not C64
>not either HoDissonance/Despair
Sounds like you haven't played many castlevanias tbqhwyf

>>3381030
Yeah, let's just conveniently forget OoE, arguably the best Vania he ever put out and Bloodstained, moron.

>>3381030
>directly stated that Sonia Belmont (and the entire game she featured in) is no longer canon because a woman couldn't possibly be the protagonist in the game's time period.

Source?

>>3381119
Never played the fighting game or mirror of fate honestly but played the otgers and even tho they also sucked they werent as disappointing. Por has richter and bloodlines plot ties and stopped me in my tracks hoe bad it was. The castle and level design and combat all suck so badly holyshit. Feels like it was made in a platformer maker game where each room is modular. Two characers at a time is so unfun it ruins the game and the exploration sucks and is boring and uninspired.

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what's the best Castlevania sub weapon and why is it always the axe?

>>3381195
Cross > Axe > Water > Stopwatch > Dagger

>>3381136
He's full of shite. The reason Sonia got retconned is because she gets impregnated by Alucard, which would mean the Belmont clan is partially vampire.

>>3381221

That's perfectly stupid, though. Why would you retcon that?

>>3381216
What about Item Crashes?

>>3381452
Because it's pretty stupid to have vampires fighting other vampires, which we already get with Alucard fighting Dracula. The whole Belmont/Dracula rivalry is supposed to be about man versus monster.

>>3381030
>>3381004
Please go back to reddeit and eat a shotgun.

>>3369229
I'm having so much trouble getting into it. I'm only up to the second boss but so far it's not as good as POR or DOS.

>>3381830
The first half with all the mini-areas is kinda weak. Dracula's Castle is VERY good however.

>>3379827
>Taro Kudo
>uninspired
I can see the level of taste I'm dealing with here. Have a nice life.

>>3382414

Don't reply to him, he's got a severe trauma with SCIV/the SNES in general. Just let him be.

Also, Taro Kudo was not the only guy who composed for VI, Masanori Adachi also worked on it. I love his Rocket Knight Adventure soundtrack!

>>3382435

It's fine, I'm just saying let him be. I never mentioned any Australia-kun and never posted in any PAL thread.
"SNES is bad" and "SCIV has a bad/boring soundtrack" is an unpopular opinion, I'm fine with unpopular opinions, even if I don't agree with them.

Question.

Is 68k the same as Chronicles in original mode (I know Arrange mode is different/easier)? If so, is there any reason to emulate the 68k game rather than Chronicles, which seems to be the the more simple option to get working?

>>3382463
Original mode is an exact port, yes. Don't bother trying to emulate the X68k.

>>3382468
Thanks. Figured that was the case but wanted to know if the people in the thread trying to emulate the X68k version were doing it for some kind of reason rather than just go to PS1 emulation.

For whoever here has played and finished 68k - Favourite and least favourite area? I love and hate the clock tower - love the second half of the level and the boss, hate the first half and the music throughout.