ITT: remakes of retro games that surpassed the original version.
Persona 2. Seriously.
The gold standard of remakes.
>>3334509
What is the King of All Cosmos doing in a Castlevania game?
>>3334535
He was the producer.
>>3334535
the king of what? he is ricky fort and he drives a rolls royce
>>3334509
>480x272
fuck that
>>3334509
Good taste, anon. That remake is fucking amazing.
>>3334516
How so? I thought it just got a port that somehow made an extremely easy game even easier.
>>3334509
original is much better desu
>>3334509
Kys immediately
>>3334509
I like Dracula X Chronicles but come on it in no way surpasses the original. The remixed tracks are worse, the art style is horrible, and the hit detection is slightly off.
Twin snek
>>3335038
DXC wins by having better bosses and touched up level design.
Look at this shit. This is inexcusable.
>>3335141
stage 5b feels like they ran out of time and were like "shit, let's slap together some random assets from previous levels".
>>3334509
>>3335167
No.
>>3335167
Not even close, at all.
>>3335167
No, it's even more censored, the graphics have ages worse due to overuse of stock effects that look gimmicky today like his overly detailed fur, the multiplayer has been changed from the wide array of gametypes in the original to an okayish bland online shooter.
I do like some of the changes though, like making the castle way more intuitive and the spinning blade puzzle easier, but the original is still better.
>>3335038
>The remixed tracks are worse
Nope, the only tracks that are better in Rondo are Paintings on a Ghost Ship and Moon Fight because they're 90's as hell, and even then the DXC arrangements are still gorgeous.
>the art style is horrible
Wait, are you seriously telling me Ryu in a business suit in the fucking 19th century or whatever is better than Andre from Rose of Versailles? Or Maria? Nah, and new Drac looks boss.
>and the hit detection is slightly off.
Now this I have to agree with, it seems there's some slight lag in the hit detection, nothing annoying but it is there nonetheless
>>3335553
Moon Fight wasn't originally in Rondo of Blood.
>>3335045
nah
Truly undeniable.
>>3335684
nice
>>3335684
I prefer the graphics of the original, though I was very thankful they kept an option for the original music. The game has a certain atmosphere that doesn't quite translate to the newer versions, they they're mechanically way better and still excellent.
Am I a bad person for liking the GBA remake of Mario 2 more than the original?
>>3335773
Yes, because it's a watered-down port of the A Stars remake on SNES.
>>3335004
>>Yo no manejo el raiting, yo manejo un Rolls Royce
>>3335684
Gureito taste
>>3335141
maybe it doesn't use any new assets but it's a perfectly fine level
>>3335819
It's just corridors.
The DXC remade stage 5b is much better.
>>3335805
Or you could just admit you never played it.
>>3335848
I didn't reply because I hadn't played the SNES one. I just like the GBA version as is. Are they actually different?
>>3335856
All-Stars is a faithful port of the original afaik, the GBA one is a bit different from either of those
Of course they are all dumbed down versions of Ding Dong Panic for casuals
>>3335826
The new L. Vampire and Hydra bosses were pretty fucking good too. Also is it just me, or are the controls in the remake a little tighter and more responsive? When I play classic Rondo in that compilation it feels a lot more sluggish and sticky.
>>3335668
yes
>>3335553
Dude, the remake is a generic pile of shit.
You have no taste.
Just accept it.
>>3336705
Stop being such a nostalgiafag.
>>3336756
Nobody has nostalgia for Rondo (at least outside of Japan), he's just a hipster.
>>3334509
It's a pretty good remake, but I wouldn't say it surpassed it. The graphics are kinda dull and the hit detection is a little off. Thankfully Konami had the foresight to include both the remake and the original (and SotN too).
>>3335806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZAdvr_q8UY
Also pic related.
You think Dracula X Chronicles was superior to Rondo of Blood? Are you fucking stupid???
>>3336817
>>3335684
This and FR/LG.
My only gripe about HGSS was the music didn't quite fit for me, and it took too long to get the GB Player.
>>3334705
The original wasn't incredibly easy, but they made the battles play out much faster.
The music has been remade and it generally sounds a lot better.
Hitler has sunglasses now.
The biggest problem is that the Eternal Punishment remake was never released in the US.
>>3336426
Underrated post
>>3335684
Nah. Too slow.
Anyways, this game. Even if it is too fucking hard.
>>3338325
FR/LG are one of the few remakes that completely supersedes the original game to me. I couldn't imagine playing Red/Blue nowadays. Maybe Yellow due to the exclusive content but still.
>>3336426
This is something I agree with. It really fleshes out the game a lot more and makes the cast worth a damn and not just "Lutz, nuke the enemy".
The Phantasy Star 2 remake however, bleagh. It's pretty much a reskinned port, though the faster movement speed is very welcome.
>>3338663
Powered up looks fucking terrible, the chibi look is terrible. I like how roll looked in tatsunoko vs capcom, that is how mega man should look in 3d. Also the new robot masters suck, feel like pointless filler.
>>3338703
You must be joking. Powered Up's look is pretty much perfect for Classic Mega Man. Keeps things relatively low-poly, too.
Besides. The additional dialogue makes it all worth it.
>>3338736
Well, it'd look better, but I was emulating on a toaster when I took these screenshots.
>>3338736
It looks good when you see it in action.
>>3338746
To each their own I guess. I don't like the style at all.
>>3338325
>>3338673
Am I one of the few who hated FR/LG? The recap everytime you loaded your save was annoying, the tutorial shit drove me crazy, and the graphics weren't much of an upgrade. The only thing I liked about it was the post E4 content.
That said, HG/SS was amazing compared to the originals.
>>3338750
I liked how Powered Up looked. That said, Maverick Hunter X looked better. Both games played really well and had some great bonus content.
>>3336643
thats cause it's a port of rondo meaning it was recoded to fit the hardware. It isn't the original
>>3336817
Are you?
Original has Rondo of Blood.
DXC has new Rondo of Blood, old Rondo of Blood, and SOTN.
>>3334769
It has the original as well though
>>3341161
>>3341458
>9
>remake
>>3341192
>muh block physics that I've read from other anons
>>3334534
you said this i vee the other day lmao
fag
>>3339389
I thought the elite four and red theme were more epic on the GBA version
>>3341595
Do those claims saying allstars is crap because physics have any merit? I have played both, on console and emulated, but I don't think the differences are noticeable enough to warrant griping about. No troll, serious inquiry.
>>3341643
I think 99% of the time it's just people parroting it because they read it somewhere else, like a trivia sort of thing. I didn't notice it either. I think only a speedrunner would notice something like that.
>>3343494
i definitely noticed it early on but it's not that big of a deal really. just play the damn game or don't :)
>>3343484
If only this allowed for custom enemies and characters, it would've been the MUGEN of beat-em-ups.
>>3343663
Ugh no, the music in this was raped senseless. The PSX remake of the original was much better.
>>3343620
that looks awfull sir
>>3343710
ya bald kunt ya
All the Dragon Quest remakes on the DS are better than the originals. Anyone who disagrees is plain wrong.
Also, pic kind of related. It is a remake, but the changes are such that it might be it's own thing.
>>3344617
>DS
>256x192p
no thank you
>>3343484
It would be awesome if this could be updated with higher resolution support.
>>3343663
>>3343668
the Sega CD versions are better
>>3344617
>VI NDS better than VI Sfamicom
You are plain wrong fagget
>>3344617
you should feel embarrassed for having such lousy tastes