Belt scrollers thread.

bumpy & lumpys*

>>3186978
>inb4 triggered nostalgiafags who grew up calling them beat 'em ups and are too set in their stone to learn the actual correct genre name

>>3186978
Walk'n Punchers.

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>>3186992
>the actual correct genre name
You mean strolling donnybrooks?

Is Sonic Blastman 2 a good game, /vr/?

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>>3186978
Every day after school

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>>3186978
Does this count?

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All day erryday

>>3186978
I prefer girdle scrollers.

>>3187045
I'd say so.

Its a damn good one.

>>3187045
>RPG elements
Into le trash it goes.

Beat 'em ups are seriously the worst fucking genre. No technical execution depth like SF2 style fighters, no challenging levels to traverse like in platformers. You just walk forward until the screen locks, press the punch bottom when enemies close in until they die, and then walk forward again until the next screen lock area. It's trash.

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http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wiiu/platinum-games/0/1
>Final Fight: A belt-scrolling action game that appeared in arcades in 1989. The Super NES version was released in December 1990.

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>>3187073
It's this copypasta? I'm sure someone posted this before.

>>3187073
here's your (you)

>>3187075
You also think platformers should be referred to as "scroll action"? Stupid weeb

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Reminder to NOT respond to a certain you-know-who.

The genre that changed Tetsuya Nomura's life forever.

>>3186992
I'll call them belt 'em up scrollers instead.

>>3187085
Platformers are just side-scrolling action games (横スクロールアクション). Why are they even called platformers in the first place?

>>3186978
You mean sash bashers?

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>>3186992
This is the same board that misuses the PSX name and gets triggered when you correct them.

>>3186992
>learn the actual correct genre name
I've literally never heard the term "belt scroller" before. They've always been called beat 'em ups.

>>3187110
It's mostly a Japanese term that was invented recently.

>>3187107
It was advertised as PSX in the west before being renamed back to Playstation, but the ads stuck, and were reran with the old name for some time. That's why it was called like that years before "PSX" came out and introduced the confusion.

the fact that you don't know this shows that you are a newfag.

>>3186978
I bet you also call DMC-likes "Hack'n'Slash", faggot.

>>3186978
I admire your dedication to trying to get this term to be a thing. How long has it been since the first time you posted "belt scroller" 6 mos to near enough a year? Let it go mang.

>>3187123
>recently
nope

>>3187154
Good list for multiplayer but it lacks tons of 2-player only games, like Double Dragon, The Punisher and the first Dynamite Deka for example.

>>3187158
The only things Google gives me about "Belt scroller" or 'Belt Scroll game" are acrhcives of these retarded threads and 2 pages from 2 obscure gaming wikias. Both wikias are completely retarded in the terminology they use.

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>>3187163
Have the version that wasn't bastardized by the SoR 3 shitposter.

>>3187172
this is bait

>>3187172
Here comes the SOR2 shitposter, right on schedule.

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>>3186978

>>3187096
Because the core gameplay challenge is jumping between platforms, and there are lots of platformers that aren't yoko scroll for that matter

>tfw beat 'em ups are the new autistic niche of /vr/ replacing shmups

Not sure how feel...

>>3187130
>It was advertised as PSX in the west before being renamed back to Playstation, but the ads stuck, and were reran with the old name for some time. That's why it was called like that years before "PSX" came out and introduced the confusion.
I was actually well aware of this before you left your dad's nutsack. Point is that SCEA never actually used the PSX abbreviations officially after the original PlayStation hit retails. Only magazines did as an informal shorthand.
>the fact that you don't know this shows that you are a newfag.
Projecting much?

>>3187158
>>3187171
It's recent in the sense that ベルトスクロールアクション was never used in a gaming magazine (such as Gamest and Famitsu) when the genre was still relevant. They were just side-scrolling action games. It's only online that I've seen the term used.

>>3187195
Yeah, but who invented the term "platformer"?

>>3187172
You are /vr/'s version of the barneyfag, seek help.

>>3187075
>Doom (typeset as DOOM in official documents)[1] is a 1993 science fiction horror-themed first-person shooter (FPS) video game by id Software.

IT'S A SCI-HORROR SHOOTER, NOT A FPS!

>>3187095
I kinda like this. The dual meaning of "belt" makes it work.

>>3187236
No idea who coined the term but it's been in use since the early 80s

>>3187154
>No X-Men
>No Growl
>No Vendetta
>No Captain America and the Avengers

Shitty list is shitty.

>>3187327
growl is there though

>>3186992
>Due to cultural and language differences, something has a different name in Japan
>"I PREFER TO CALL IT BY ITS TRUE, ORIGINAL JAPANESE NAME, ZERUDA NO DENSETSU"
See how retarded you sound?

>>3187325
I never liked the "platformer" since I always associate "platform" with the hardware it's running on.

>>3187341
>I justify my opinion in a normal rationale kind of way
>LET ME DISMISS THE OPPOSITE VIEWPOINT BY TYPING IT IN ALL CAPS AND MAKING A MOCKERY OF IT.
You're not making a good case for yourself.

>>3187201
it's always been that way, it just seems like everyone is now jumping on the bandwagon of shitposting because they finally explored the genre and think they're vetted.

>>3187327
>X-Men
>Growl
>good
Shit tastes 2bh familia

>>3187195
I prefer a strict genre distinction based on common core gameplay features over a vague unofficial term that does a poor job at defining a genre.

You read "Platformer" and instantly know that there going to be platforms you gave to jump
You read "First Person Shooter" and instantly get that you gonna shoot stuff from pov.
You read "beat'em'up" and you instantly get that you get to punch a bunch of foes with next to none long-range combat or firearms involved.

You read 'belts scroller" ant it's a ... umm.. Belt that scrolls? What?

>>3187382
It's hardly unofficial, seeing how Nintendo.com used it in an interview. See.>>3187075

>>3187384
I'm gonna make an OpenBOR based game and define it as a Conveyor Masher. Will that make "Conveyor Masher" a legit genre?

>>3187384
Jesus christmas dude, those Iwata asks interviews regularly do literal translations of the Japanese interview, including the notes. They regularly use Japanese titles in the notes for games that have official U.S. titles. They are not the fucking bible of terminology.

>>3187396
If the term is popularized enough for a major company like Nintendo or Capcom to recognize, it might as well be.

>>3187401
Point is that the term is widely used in Japan and (let's be honest here) all of the relevant contributions to the genre were by Japanese developers. I'm just curious to know where the term originated from though.

>>3187421
Belt scroller = games with so little effort and soul put into them it's as if they were assembled on a factory conveyor belt

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How about that Jackie Chan?

>>3186996
Their size and lack of danger of the sentinels always bothered me. They might as well have been the puttys from MMPR

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>>3187443
Not a belt-scroller.

>>3187449
They're practically foot clan ninjas, since every Konami belt-scroller is a clone of TMNT.

>>3186978
I thought a belt scroller was one of those in which the stage loops like a belt. Like Odin's Sphere. Where's the belt even supposed to be in Final Fight?

>>3187073
True. Its repetitive and only fun when played with someone else, but even bad games are fun this way.

>>3186992
They're called Walk'ems 'n Pop'ems you swine

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>>3187041
My nigga.
Never seen the show, never read the comic, but drained more pocket money from me than Metal Slug.
47th Street's my ringtone.

>>3187045
Hell yeah it counts.

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>>3186992

This here is a belt scroller.

I'm not even disappointed by your ignorance; it's expected because it is simply your lot.

>>3187982
That's also not a videogame.

>>3188010
Neither's pinball.

>>3187073
>no challenging levels to traverse like in platformers
This statement is just as retared as the hori-fags that bitch about vertical shooters lacking "level design".

>>3188096
He's right though.

>hori-fags that bitch about vertical shooters lacking "level design".
Don't they? I mean, the only thing that distinguishes most vertical shmups from each other are bullet patterns and enemy placement.

>>3188149
if you pay attention enemies do interact with the backgrounds, that's how you know where they are coming from

>>3188157
ground troops, maybe, but that's inconsequential, and besides you never have to interact with it

>>3188165
not just ground troops, ships take off, come out of larger ships and stuff.

>>3188149
The levels are designed around enemies instead of walls retard, jesus how is that hard to understand. If you restricted verts to have tons of wall they would much slower like old horis.

>>3188187
The Shikigami no Shiro series (first one is retro) has one gimmick level with blocks that work as walls. It works pretty well.

>>3188191
So does Radiant Silvergun or Image Fight, they are exceptions however. I personally enjoy both styles

>>3188193
Aleste too.

>>3188187
>enemies instead of walls
What if I want both enemies and walls?

>>3188306
You can have both, but horis are more about walls than enemies, it's about memorizing an strategy and an specific route and you are ready to go. Verts meanwhile tend to be more demanding because they are all about manipulating the enemy AI and RNGs to your favor, rather than static walls, leaving a bit more space for improvisation.

>>3187041
Big kids were always on it,I had chance to play only 3-4 times.

>>3187154
>>3187154


I have almost all of these roms loaded onto my phone to kill time during my 90 minute commute to and from work. ( excluding the 3d fighters )

using retro arch

however, if anyone can link me to a working rom that will load on retro arch for:

golden axe death adders revenge
night slashers
growl

i will be forever in your debt, these are the only ones i've had no luck loading so far on retroarch on muh mobile

>>3188193
>>3188216
and Ikaruga.

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>>3187154
>>3187172
>no Battletoads '94
OPINION DESCART'D

Nobody ever remembers the one that really started the ball rolling.

Target Renegade

>>3189645
because it's garbage

nobody goes into platformer threads talking about how smb1 is the shit

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>>3189645
> the one that really started the ball rolling.
>Target Renegade
It wasn't even an official Renegade sequel.

>>3189645
fucking yuropoors lmao

I came to read about beat' em ups
but it seems we need to create a thesaurus first

>>3187080
>>3187083
>>3188096
Anon's not really wrong though. Heyday scrolling beat 'em ups were designed to get the player in and out since they're designed to eat quarters. They're easy enough to learn that you can just walk up and play and balanced enough to be fun, but for arcade classics, outside of programmer oversight and bugs, there's little in the way of intended combat depth and level design runs the gamut of okay to terrible with the average being flat plane with maybe a couple pitfalls.

The criticism that they don't have platforming challenge isn't to say that they should, but that they don't, but they also lack the depth of a fighter so anon is wondering where the appeal is. Which is that they can be fun even if they usually weren't horribly technical games.

>>3189703
>since they're designed to eat quarters.

codespeak for I am a casual babby

>>3189714
>Every person who walked into an arcade knew immediately how to beat every beat 'em up one credit

Codespeak for underage. You get your reply cookie because I have a soft spot for the use of "babby" in insults.

>>3189724
Speak for yourself, casual. I can almost always blind 1cc every belt scroller I pick up the first time.

>>3186992
Uh, no.
Belt scrollers, just like side scrollers or top down, indicates PERSPECTIVE. There are a couple belt scroller run'n'gun games (well, mostly in modern times), just like there are side scroller beatem'ups like e.g. Bad Dudes or Karateka.

>>3189728
Are there any belt-scrolling shooters besides Konami's Aliens and NARC.

>>3189728
How is "belt" a perspective, you mong

>>3189740
Apparently arcade Bucky O'Hare game was also a belt scrolling shooter.
And The Shadow, Punisher and Growl all had some shooting segments

Also not retro but Dead Pixels 1 and 2 are belt scroller shooters.

>>3189703
>hurr durr i don't like the genre because it doesn't play like a fighting game
FGC everyone.
Can you play as good as this guy? if not then just fuck off underage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5obEZLgyu8

>>3189724
Try being better at video games rather than being butthurt on /vr/ you pleb

>>3189724
>Every person who walked into an arcade knew immediately how to beat Kaiser Knuckle in one credit and had 50 consecs in SF3
>Every person who played SMB for the first time beat the game with 0 deaths
Take a load of this retard.

>>3189881
tfw you find out you can pull off shoryukens as one of the predators

>>3186992
I'm 33 years old and I've never heard the term "belt scroller" until just recently on this board. Is this a memester thing?

>>3187227
There's absolutely nothing wrong with calling the PS1 the PSX. I grew up referring to it as PSX and that's what I'll always call it.

>>3189965
It wouldn't be much of an issue if Sony never released the actual PSX later on. I wonder why the PSX2 abbreviation never caught on.

>>3189970
Yeah but when has anyone ever referred to PSX on this board and meant the actual PSX? It only ever comes up when someone calls the PS1 by that name. Aside from that, discussion of the actual PSX isn't even allowed on this board.

>>3189981
>Yeah but when has anyone ever referred to PSX on this board and meant the actual PSX?

Every day, in every thread devoted to any Playstation console, mod, game or e-celeb video by a cadre of dedicated shitposters.

>>3189910
>fighting games

lmao

>>3189961
/v/ scum is only trying to find out how may of us are actually older than 12.

>>3186992
I personally prefer to call them derpy perply poops

Strikes me as odd that this belt scrolling thing is being adopted as an 'original term' from Japanese. When its Japanese English and the Japanese usually use english words to make boring stuff sound cooler.
The last two threads of beat em up games has been all about the term. So stop using belt scrollers in the topic ao we can talking about games dammit

>>3190176
I guess I'm out of the loop when it comes to games, but I don't think I had ever once heard the term before someone used it on here.

I'm just waiting for someone to say that lightgun games/on-rails shooters have always been called plastic pistol games.

>>3190187
You mean they aren't?????

>>3189961
It's what the gooks refer to the genre as. Non-autistic adults who are native English speakers refer to them with the proper term, beat em ups.

>>3187075
Nips are fucking morons, BUT they are slightly smarter than Koreans.

Still, I wouldn't take their retard terminology to heart. YOU FUCKING MORON.

>>3190290
>Nips are fucking morons, BUT they are slightly smarter than Koreans.
Says the random neet posting at /vr/.

>>3190304
Hot assumptions there captain autism.

>>3190310
Triggered.

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>>3190326

ITS BEAT EM UP

THERES ALSO NOTHING WRONG WITH "HACK N SLASH" WHEN THAT IS ALL YOURE DOING

>no /vr/ definitive list of "belt side em scroller ups" image

Let's compile that shit.

>>3190310
>Makes assumptions about an entire country
>Gets mad when someone made assumptions about him.

>>3189651
>>>/v/

No one has mentioned Ninja Clowns, or B-Rap Boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAWnYNONhGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkGpmZ8OF0

>>3191543
Yeah but he's right about Koreans though. Dumb enough to live under a crushing communist dictatorship in the North and dumb enough to spend all day playing/watching MOBAs in the south and getting killed by ceiling fans.

Wew lad.

>>3189703
Because you think beatemups made for consoles don't exist, or something. Go back to shoryuken.

does this board meme on Turtles in time? My friends and I played that shit to death

>>3191976
The general consensus is that the AC version sucks and the SNES version is the definite one.

>>3191976
We have a passionate shitposter that shits on all Konami belt scrollers for being too superficial.

Are there any belt em up walky punchers that are as fun as Guardians or should I just keep playing this until I die? The only one that comes close is Battle Circuit but I'm not a huge fan of how it locks abilities behind money.

>beat em up thread
>literally 90% of the posts are assblasted retards arguing over what the "proper" name for the genre is

c-can we please actually talk about the games?

>>3191976
hyperstone heist is better

>>3192017
Manual running and consistent hitboxes on your normal moves make all the difference.

>>3192049
>all Konami belt scrollers for being too superficial.
well that's kind of true with the exception of violent storm

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>tfw you 1cc your favorite right-handed locomotion martial arts brawler

>>3192495
I'll never know this feel. Respect.

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Double D

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>>3192529
Babby's mode = Elbow Strike
Hard mode = Everything else
Bimmy must die mode = Headbutt only

>>3186992
So Bad Dudes is the only beat 'em up since there's no "belt scrolling" involved?

>>3189961
The actual term is "bereto sukarora" or some bullshit