Pinball General: Move Your Car Edition

>>3111373
Ghostbusters looks like it's going to be a pretty rockin' 90s pinball. Trudeau game like Judge Dredd. Actual interactive toys and a subway. Hand-drawn art.

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EXTERMINATE THE DOCTOR

>>3111398
Hard to be the best pinball of the '90s when you've got lightning flippers.

>my local arcade
>actually having a local arcade

You bastard.

>>3111373
>Star Trek: The Next Generation
Wouldn't even be able to walk in there without drowning in feels

>>3113407
http://tiny DOT cc/PhysMod5

Solve all your problems

Some new PhysMod5 have come out though, like 85Vette's too-slippery Metallica and Mustang and Star Trek '13. But an actual playable version of Walking Dead also.

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>>3111642
What does that mean?

I love pinballs but man I suck at them

how do I get good? just dump money into them until I can win? Is watching the PAPA tutorials cheating?

>>3113437
Lightning flippers are 1/8" shorter than regular. Designed to drain balls at lightning rates. Look at the gap between them.

Creature has regular flippers but also a 1/4" extra gap.

>>3113726
Ahh cool. I recently played Stern's Kiss and noticed that either the flippers were smaller or the gap was larger. The game times are incredibly short and it really dissuaded me from playing further and getting any better at the darn table.

>>3113453
Tutorials are a great help if you can't get good at a certain table.
Learn about the basics of flipper and ball control, look up vids and read some shit http://www.ipdb.org/playing/skills.html
and it is about playing a lot and practicing so yeah, be prepared to spend some change.

>>3113453
Be the envy of your friends and buy a table and practice whenever you like.

>>3113453
>Is watching the PAPA tutorials cheating?
No as they're "tutorials" obviously.

>>3113453
Definitely watch the PAPA videos.

But they are weak at teaching nudging IMO, and that's a very important skill. You need to learn to nudge early, because the earlier you nudge the less force you need. If you watch the best players they do a lot of subtle nudging even when it doesn't look like the ball is in danger. I recommend practicing on a slower paced older machine (but not a "tilt ends game" old machine).

>>3111373

>A bunch of classic tables
>Alongside Iron Man and TWD Sternshit

That's almost a shame. Play a round of Funhouse for me, OP.

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>tfw this is the only pinball machine I've ever known

>>3114870
You owe it to yourself to play Pro Pinball, if you have even mild interest in pinball games

>>3114875
I'm just trying to find a free copy of Full Tilt so I can play the dragon and pirate tables from my childhood.

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What's a relatively cheap System 11 for a first-time owner? I was thinking good, old F-14 Tomcat for something fast and fun.

>>3114916
>Tomcat
>fun

>>3115384
>Tomcat
>not fun
Kicker scare you?

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>>3113437
>Scared Stiff

My fucking nigger.

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>>3115994
>double entendres fucking everywhere, often made by Elvira
>that orgasm sound Elvira makes with each Jackpot

Is there a more boner-inspiring pinball game?

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>>3115994
Where I reside (Sydney) there's an abundance of scared stiff tables. I've gotten all the way through to wizard mode once. It just has a beautifully straight forward rule-set that's easy to get into.
>>3116009
OHHH MULTIPLE JACKPOTS!!

>>3116024
>GOOD HEAD!
>My favorite!

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Found some interesting info on Easter Eggs in Scared Stiff

http://www.robertwinter.com/pinball/ss/hidden.html

>>3114883
https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/2vhwg7/ysk_you_can_play_that_good_old_windows_3d_pinball/

This?

>>3116065

Deeper. The retail version that came before, which had three tables. The version bundled with Windows only had Space Cadet.

Anyway, I found it and I've been playing the shit out of it for hours. Skullduggery is a lot of fun.

How important is the theme of a table to you? Can it make or break a table? Or are you just in it for the layout and rule set, and tolerate any theme?
Know any tables that got ruined by their theme?

>>3116107

Honestly, theme is the priority.

Pinball tables are so expensive and such a pain in the ass that I'd have to love the theme. Obviously it needs to be a fun table but a killer theme is what sets pinball apart IMO.

>>3116107
The only way I can imagine theme ruining a table is if it's a music theme for a band I don't like. Layout > rules >>>>>>>>>>> theme.

>>3116107
I generally like most themes. Layout and rules are the important part.
The most tragic thing is a bad table with a great theme.

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>>3116048
>cows have been in pinball machines for quite some time

I wonder if Doug Tennapel was referencing this in Earthworm Jim.
Or maybe it was just a pun on the term "well done".

>>3116107

Theme is very important IMO. Something like No Good Gofers turns me off right away

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>>3116441
No Good Gofers was shit.
Tee'd Off had a similar concept, but was pulled off much more effectively. The table itself was much more fun, too.

>>3116412
whoa that's the actual well done cows, nice

>>3115384
You can't win, AHAHAHAHAHA

>>3116452
Found the image on a fucking soccer blog. I felt like the blogger didn't even know what it was.

>>3116412
Possibly, though I think it was likely a combination of picking an animal that matched up with Jim being a country bumpkin as well as being just another dash of EWJ's characteristic random humor.

>>3116464
>matched up with Jim being a country bumpkin

I keep forgetting Jim's Texan, which is sad considering I'm also a Texasfag.

>>3111398
I'm never gonna play this am I?

I'm never gonna see it in real life.
It's not even gonna be in the Pinball Arcade.

Fuck.

>>3116481
They had a kickstarter for it.

>>3116486
I feel better now.

>>3116465
I'm from Texas, and I guess I didn't remember him being from Texas either.

>>3116448
>that ass grab

Based.

>>3116481
It's at my local arcade and the least played machine for some reason.

>>3116535
That's not necessarily a bad thing. Less wear and tear, and more playtime for you.

A friend has lent me CFTBL, it's the first pinball machine I've had and I love it. I've got some issues though that you guys might be able to help with.

The gate on the KISS ramp rejects balls a lot, if they're going at any sort of speed it just bounces them back down the ramp.

The snackbar/KISS lock by the right flipper kicks the ball out so hard that it quite often bounces out of where its supposed to go and ends up either draining down the side or directly down the middle.

Anyone else seen this?

>they're all so fucking expensive

You'd think there'd be a cheap cabinet out there somewhere.

>>3116775
You can find old EMs pretty cheap if that's your thing. Like a few hundred instead of thousands.

>>3116923
That's a bit better.

>>3115994
Favorite pin. I used to work next to a pinball museum and I'd coin in at lunch and after work every day on this machine.

>>3115896
>swatting the ball back and forth is a great mechanic

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>>3116448
>>3116441

I always thought that 'Gophers was the better table, but that's just personal preference.

Dr Dude and Party Zone are two themes that do absolutely nothing for me. White Water as well.

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>>3118109
They made a sequel to Play Boy?

>I always thought that 'Gophers was the better table, but that's just personal preference.

I'll admit I was just much better at Tee'd Off and enjoyed the more upfront Caddyshack references. Gopher's wasn't necessarily bad.

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>>3113726
You don't even know, man. You don't even know.

>>3118129
5 balls and replays out the ass once you crack 1200 points

>>3118129
That table's just asking to get knocked around.

>>3118129
>>3118118 didn't even have flippers. What now?

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>>3116009
I wouldn't say it's sexier than Elvira faking an orgasm (nothing short of her actual orgasm would be), but Sexy Girl gave it its best fucking shot.

>>3118118
>no paddles

What the fuck is this, plinko?

>>3118582

Uh yeah actually thats what pinball was. Hence "pin" ball.

>>3118585
Except most pinball machines have these integral things that are designed to keep the game going for as long as possible.

Those things are not in this.
How the hell do you play it?

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>>3118582
No this is plinko.

Same concept, though. You had a set number of balls that you had to build a poker hand on. Nudging made it easy since it was made before the whole TILT thing.

>>3118589

Things like flippers were later developments to the game. At first it was just a launcher and the pins, and landing the balls in certain configurations won you free plays, which could be traded in for cash with the vendor. This is what led to pinball being outlawed as a gambling game, since it was basically a slot machine. Flippers and tilting and shit were a means to legitimize it as a game of skill rather than a game of chance.

>>3118601
>This is what led to pinball being outlawed as a gambling game, since it was basically a slot machine.

That's interesting as hell. Could explain why pinball tables are in bars to this day.

>>3118636

Would you believe that pinball wasn't legal in New York until 1976? When Taxi Driver was being filmed pinball was still illegal. Thats nuts to me.

Another neat pinball fact: Warren Buffett's first enterprise was buying old pinball machines and putting them in barbershops. He started with one, ended up with three, sold the business and bought a farm with the money. He was 14.

>>3118648
>Would you believe that pinball wasn't legal in New York until 1976? When Taxi Driver was being filmed pinball was still illegal. Thats nuts to me.

I just thought it had a resurgence in the late 70s. I had no idea its decline in popularity was because it was against the fucking law.

>He started with one, ended up with three, sold the business and bought a farm with the money. He was 14.

Based as fuck.

>>3118593
Is that where Japs got the idea for pachinko from?

>>3118129
I don't even know yet I achieved the high score on a local Big Juicy Melons, slap-saving tens of potential drains?

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>>3118697

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I know there have been a bunch pin threads. But a while back I was trying to find a way to get into pinball w/o breaking the bank or taking up too much space.

I was recommended some Wii pinball collections on my multicade set up.

WHY DIDNT YOU GUYS TELL ME ABOUT LEGIT (aka non Zizzle) HOME USE ONLY PINS!?

After a weekend of research, and some luck I picked this Briarwood Aspen pin for $100. A few weeks back. Its SO much fun. Picked it up in perfect working order. After 2 plays I did need to replace some of the rubber (rubber bands are in place til I get a true replace kit).

Its 3/4 size so with some creativity and patience I was able to transport and move it by myself and it is an ABSOLUTE hit with friends. I never thought I was good at pinball (I still don't think I am) but I am not totally hopeless.

Is there a master list of home use only pins? Particularly good ones? I think I still have my list of 3/4 size pinball machines to look for that I can share.

>>3118713
So the point was you're shit at pinball

>>3118795
post more

>>3118905
ur dumb

>>3118924
>wants "home use only" pins posted in this thread
>calls others dumb

>>3118962
If you're not going to contribute, go away.

>>3118967
>posting pictures is contributing
>archiving, tuning, and converting VP 9.9 tables to PhysMod5 and making them available to the thread is not contributing

Enjoy Pinball Arcade then, it's clearly what you deserve

>>3119043
And where did I say that?

You need to stop inferring who's replying to you.

>>3119043
>this shitposter again

>>3118905
The point was the flippers were tiny.
It was a joke you fucking idiot.

>>3118905
Aspergers detected, aside from missing the joke no one cares how good you are at pinball you sad obnoxious bitch.

>>3118795
Where the hell did you score that?
I've been wanting a machine that was under a billion dollars, and home use only looks like it could be the way to go.

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lol
the anti PA guy outs himself as a humorless dumbfuck shitposter again

>>3118795
>>3118962
>>3119220
I want to warn you guys about something. When pinball guys use the phrase "home use only", they generally mean ANY pin that has only ever been privately owned.

A "home use only" Fish Tales, for example, would be considerably more expensive than a Fish Tales that had been on location at one point because it never got all the wear and tear of a routed game.

So yeah, don't search for "home use only". You'll get the wrong results. You're really looking for non-commercial games.

>>3119231
If only I can autoreport him. That would be great.

>>3119232
>A "home use only" Fish Tales, for example, would be considerably more expensive than a Fish Tales that had been on location at one point

Yeah, I noticed that.

I'll definitely rephrase; thanks, anon.

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>trying desperately to be Black Knight

>>3116048
What's the B for in the codes?

>>3119319
Both at once.

>>3119301
I wouldn't give it my money.

>>3116048
That '3' thing sounded familiar and I remembered Junk Yard has a secret mania when you get triple 3s on something. Lo and behold it's the same guy.

>>3119220
I got SUPER lucky on craigslist (and happen to live around Allentown, PA- which is surprisingly a bit of a pinball hub of sorts, go figure). I was actually about to settle for one of the Zizzle pins (which I actually heard were not 100% terrible if you can deal with it being more toy than pin).

The machine I found was just being sold by an estate sale flipper who didn't list the name. I figured it out by alot of squinting at the potato quality picture and some picture comparison.

Anyways, 3/4 size machines or the term home use only referring to pins from the late 60s-early 80s don't seem to have a real cohesive following or wealth of information. Maybe the term "home model" is a better search term?

The below forum thread was really where I got my foundation of knowledge.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=118068.0

I made a list of those machines and makers and tried to find other machines they made that were similar.

Since buying mine and catching a little bit of the pin-bug. The only similar machines I've seen pop upon craigslist ads for relatively cheap is "Big Top" by Wico and "Freedom" by Bally. I've seen each of these in varying conditions on the East Coast sell from anywhere between $150 (terrible condition) to $800 (working fine, normal wear).

>>3119812
Sorry, I've also seen multiple "Star Explorer" by Sentinel. Usually in OK shape, anywhere between $200 and $600.

Before finding that pseudo list, I had settled on a "Star Galaxy" pin, which is an alternate version of the Zizzle pinball machines.

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go to garage sales you guys!!!!
I got this for 20$ all I had to do is replace one board
pretty much 300$ total
especially when women get sick of having things around they'll give it the fuck away

>>3119872
>when women get sick of having things around they'll give it the fuck away

I love yard sales for this reason.

>>3119872
Best thing I got at a yard sale was a semi weighted 88key midi controller.
Still use it.

Yard sales are the tits.

>>3119301
I'll bet it doesn't even rock the fuck out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPGtzmStq4

>>3120763
Is there better pinball music?
At all?

I doubt it.

>>3119872
pics or it didn't happen

>>3121149
A lot of System 11 machines sound like that.

I prefer F-14 and Swords of Fury, specifically the multiball themes.

>>3121576
We'll have to agree to disagree on F-14, but I will say that Swords of Fury is on par.

>>3121595
The F-14 multiball theme gets me more pumped than any other piece of pinball music. Period. I regret ever selling mine. I set it up at a convention one time and cranked up the volume on it. There was a crowd all day long.

I like pretty much all of Chris Granner's soundtracks, really. Whirlwind, Elvira, Earthshaker, Big Guns, Terminator 2, etc.

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>six-ball is a standard multiball
Jesus. Fun Sega table, though.

>>3121608
Guy really is great. I loved his cover of Twilight Zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdH-Vte3j5Q

>>3119220
...Its really funny that I posted some of the "easy to find" 3/4 tables.

A "Big Top" by Wico just popped up in the relative driving area by me (again Eastern PA area) for $125. Anyone interested? I'd love to help em out if they want.

>>3122346
>lock lit music
Magnificent.

>>3121815
Last Action Hero is real man pinball with 6-ball multiballs, has Lyman F. Sheats Jr. software. Not even Germany could prevent its crane mechanism, as they attempted to do to Williams games due to their air of mechanical superiority.

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>>3122914
Looks pretty fucking rad.

>>3122914
>Not even Germany could prevent its crane mechanism, as they attempted to do to Williams games
Got more details on that? Sounds odd as fuck

>>3123254
The German pinball market was huge, and dominated by one guy pretty much. He forced Williams to cut features out of Judge Dredd because he claimed (wrongly) that they were more prone to failure. He was, after all, German, and knew more about mechanical engineering by way of his blood than pinball designers did by way of their trade and craft. He had them by the balls because he said he wouldn't buy if they didn't bend to his demands.

>>3123254
It has been suggested that this feature was changed because it failed under test, leaving balls trapped on the ring. We asked designer John Trudeau about it. He clarifies:

The original ring and [software] program were only used on the prototypes and sample games. Nothing ever failed and all the games worked flawlessly, throughout their stays at their test locations. Even the sample games sent to Europe worked well.

The problem was with the German distributor. He said he saw a potential for failure with the ball crane. In other words, he just didn't like it. I don't know why. And I never actually heard what he threatened Williams with, but it was enough pressure to have the game changed. I fought the good fight for keeping it the way it was, but I didn't have big enough clout to outweigh the potential loss of sales. So I swallowed what pride I had left and changed it. It wasn't as cool as having the balls in orbit, but there was a lot of game still there to have fun with.

The same potential "failure lock-up" point is at ANY ball popper or even the outhole. It just never made any sense to me.

The prototype games were all retrofitted with a new ring and program. The distributors were all sent conversion kits to refit their sample games to the modified play. Whether these kits ever actually found their way onto the sample games was up to the distributors. The incentive for the distributors to do the conversion was the fact that any subsequent software updates would have the "new" ring in mind. The "old" ring would only work with that original software release. I would expect that everyone would eventually do the mod.

>>3123403
>So I swallowed what pride I had left and changed it
Are you quoting, or have you worked on this?

>>3123413
You're a troll / shitposter

>We asked designer John Trudeau about it. He clarifies:

>>3123441
I just fail at reading, and you're an asshole

>>3121608
Chris Granner and Brian Schmidt are treasures. I think I can safely say almost every truly fantastic pinball soundtrack had one of these two guys behind it.

>>3123396
What a fucking asshole.

>>3124205
This is the truth.

>>3124205

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfLZF2qf8G4

They teamed up for Fire! and Big Guns. Fucked if I could find a worth a shit soundtrack for either. Closest is some music from Big Guns.

>>3125057
Big Guns is a great underrated game.

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>>3125092
Played it awhile ago on visual pinball and you're spot fucking on. The Granner/Schmidt soundtrack is great and the fucking game itself does it justice.

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>>3125973
>YOU ARE INVINCIBLE

>>3111396
>Ghostbusters

How was this never a pin before?

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>>3125986

>>3126327
some arcade really should put a thing like that in a corner, just for shits and giggles

>>3118795
>Is there a master list of home use only pins

http://ipdb.org/search.pl?specialty=8&sortby=name&searchtype=advanced

Searched for Specialty: Non-Commercial Machine

>>3126501
that's an amatuerish list at best

>>3125986
I heard that "Party Zone" from Bally was going to be a Ghostbusters game, but something went wrong with the licensing.

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>JOUST
>CATAPULT
>PEASANT
>DAMSEL
>TROLL
>MULTIBALL MADNESS

>>3126554
That would make sense. It would've been weird as fuck if they didn't at least try, given the year.

>>3111396
Trigger warning: 60fps video of actual gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGbA5ZHap_Y

>>3127575
>Okay, who brought the dog?
>Symmetrical book stacking
>actually bust ghosts while in multiball

I need this.

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So anybody ever get the chance to play Rob Zombie's Spookshow International?

Why does The Hobbit have a shot that deposits your ball down a ramp and into the left outlane? Years of work to produce a machine that's anti-fun

>>3128473
Wait, you mean that table has actually been released?

>>3128486
they said the ball has been released, right into the left outlane. It's annoying.

>>3128486
Only if you are a new customer. If you paid years ago get ready to wait more while Jack openly mocks you at expos.

>>3118109

Dr Dude and Party Zone give me sleezy uncle/ Chuckie Cheese franchise owner vibes, which apparently is a strong enough hook for me.

>>3116502

> Next Hole

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>>3128540
Story?

>>3128859
Basically something thought up by Sphincter Boy?
Yeah, I get that, too. I love both though, especially Party Zone.

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>>3128859
if >>3126554 is right, then it's pretty obvious that Party Zone was just a generic backup theme just in case the team ever ran into licencing issues.
It was such a fucking random amalgam of weird ideas.

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>>3111373
Is that Neon Retro Arcade?

>>3130642
holy shit i think your right anon
https://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play/neon-retro-arcade-pasadena-ca-united-states

>>3130642
>>3130696
OP here, yes it is. If either of you have seen a greasy longhair wearing flannel there, welp, hi.

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>>3111373
my arcade has
>centaur
>f-14 tomcat
>Jacks open
>pinbot
>silverball mania

Oceanside fucking sucks for pinball I mean these a great machines don't get me wrong but there too "simple" for me i guess
this arcade is 5 minutes from me but to play any more machines that are a bit more varied and in one location i have to drive to san diego or all the way to orange county for some great pin action, thank god i have a chance to go to vegas again next week

Post high scores

>>3130723
Isn't the Vegas copy of Pinball Circus dead now? He let some little kid destroy it. Unless it's been fixed since but word was it was quite a demolition.

>>3130229
Story is the same as always, Jack takes your $10,000 for your Emerald City Limited Edition Wizard of Oz and never produces them. Then you watch as he comes out with the Ruby Red Limited Edition and new customers get theirs delivered the second they send payment. Then he calls his customers "babies" at Pintastic.

>>3130723
Where are you going in Orange County for pinball?

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>>3130741
holy shit what when did this happen and where did you hear about it from. I went to the hall of fame on the 23rd of last month and it looked fine I haven't been there for pretty much an entire year before last month though.


>>3131167
In fullerton there a comic book shop called Comic Hero University with a bunch of pinball machines paragon, creature from the black lagoon, bride of pinbot, whirlwind, dr, who, and the walking dead, and a few arcade cabs with teenage mutant ninja turtles game if i recall coreectly, and other games.

Fairfield inn an arcade with a few racing games, and 2 pinball machines high roller casino, and simpsons pinball party i remeber those were entirely working when i played high roller casinos ramp was stuck down, and the simpsons flippers felt weak

theres a barcade called Eightytwo with Twiligjht zone, addams family with 18 other machines but I haven't been there yet

>>3130741
Not sure if Jack is based or a dickhead.
Probably both from the sound of it.

>>3131371
Texasfag here. All I've got nearby is Cueball Wizard and a Xenon that always gets the ball stuck in Xenon's love tube.

>>3132146
i'm sorry to hear that
https://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play
if what this map says is correct
houston and austin are pretty huge hubs for pinball

I hope someday you'l be able to go to one of those places

>>3132163
Fuck, DFW's not bad either. I live right outside, but out in the country. I get a bad enough urge you bet your ass I'm going. I didn't even consider there'd be a map.

>>3132163
>pretty huge

One has a gold Addams Family. These motherfuckers are serious.

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>that moment when you finally master a pin

What was your first? Mine was pic related.

>>3132931
none. Been playing since forever, though rarely ever real machines. I'm still mediocre, probably because I rarely ever play real machines

>>3132970
Yeah, I hear that. All I have near my home is a Black Knight. Everything else I play is from Pinball Arcade or Visual Pinball. Not quite as thrilling as the real thing, but I can't complain.

>>3131371
Heard about it in The Community but that was before Pinside became a for-profit fulltime business so people could actually say controversial things. Sounded like the kid spilled something on it or something.

>>3132970
Pretty much this. Best I've done on a real machine is almost getting Vacation Jackpot in White Water. I think I only needed those fucking river letters.

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>>3133308
>but that was before Pinside became a for-profit fulltime business so people could actually say controversial things.
What's the story with that?
I've been a member of pinside for a couple of years but never participated in any forum threads.
So recently I notice they have introduced some kind of "Achievement" bullshit going on so I made a thread about it and proceeded to get some warning from a mod for using bad language. Yeah that's right, I was in danger of losing my account because I used the term "fuck" in my post.

>>3132931
I posted earlier about making it to Wizard mode on Scared Stiff.
I've beaten Arabian Nights on Pinball Arcade

>>3133621
>I've beaten Arabian Nights on Pinball Arcade

Me too.

>>3133621

Arabian Nights
Attack From Mars
Cirqus Voltaire
No Good Gofers

>>3133621
It has to be "Family Friendly" now like Facebook so that Robin and his brother in The Netherlands can squeeze all that sweet pinball sales money coming out of other countries and funnel it to themselves for having an army of mods that do it for free.

Bowen quit.

>>3132931
RED

LINE

MANIA

>>3133618
That's gotta be the most nuts final goal in any pinball. The river letters being reset on draining is a real bitch.

>>3135720
It's not too bad on a machine that's properly configured to shoot the ball up and down through the inlane from the kickout. Two easy letters that almost guarantee Class VI if you play your Whirlpool Challenge well. But if that kickout isn't aligned or it's too powerful, then then the whole game becomes hell.

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>>3125986
We got the next best thing.

That pinball museum in Vegas is kill

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/12/pinball-machine-hall-of-fame-las-vegas-job-hiring

>>3136837
>that shameless rip off

Brilliant

>tfw no arcade near me at all

Truly suffering. Absolutely tired of playing pinball emulators. You would think arcades would still be pretty popular nowadays

>>3138039
>i don't know how to look
Pinball is in its renaissance, there everywhere unless you live in fucking africa

>>3138001
the text does not agree with your summary

>>3136837
Holy shit that's spooky. That game must not have sold very well, I'd be to scared to even look at it.

>>3111373
Any recommendations for virtual pinball games?

>>3138252
This >>3113431

>>3138282
Thanks.

>>3138330
The calculations run at 1000 MHz and ball spin / friction are an actual thing so you can do all the real-life flipper tricks. Ought to actually improve your game rather than retard it as can happen with over-simplified virtual versions.

>>3138342
>The calculations run at 1000 MHz
You can't parallelize them, so that would mean a few cycles for each timestep. Completely impossible.

>>3138001
I really hope they find someone to take over the place i'd be devestated if they had to close the place down because no one wanted to step up to manage the place

>>3131371
Don't forget camelot arcade in Anaheim too. They have about 8 to 10 pins as well last time I looked

>>3139804
Oh wow i've never heard of that place do you know any of the pins they have there? i'l check it out eventually but i always like to have an idea the pinmap only lists one machine on it

so I just got pinarcade, wow it's soooo much better than vpin

>>3140652
>inb4 VP autist

>>3140652
Agreed. I love both, but PA is fantastic.

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>spend the afternoon playing real pinball
>come home and try to replicate the experience

lolwat

>>3141406
That's my biggest gripe about VP. It's a pain in the dick to install.

Easiest way I know is to torrent this:
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/4708060/Visual_Pinball_GIGAPACK_02Jun2004_-_865_Arcade_Tables_-_COMPLETE

I'm seeding it right now. Just make sure to replace whatever file it says is outdated with the latest version (without removing the ROM or Table lists) and you're gold.

>>3138031
To be fair bonebusters was the logical next step for the franchise.

There just weren't enough skeletons in the series.

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So what's the story with Back to the Future? They couldn't even get Christopher "I'll do literally anything to be in front of a camera or at least a microphone" Lloyd for this?

>>3142495
The only thing I know about that machine are some guys on ebay calling it the "Holy Grail of Pinball" and trying to pawn it off for $30k. It's like some joke that's going way over my head.

>>3142591
I mean it's not a bad pin by any means. Just had some laughable marketing.

>>3142495

When Farsight was licensing Addams Family Pinball for Pinball Arcade, Christopher Lloyd wanted several tens of thousands of dollars for the mere likeness of Fester that appears on the backglass art. He also stipulated that if anyone were paid a *larger* amount than what he was given, he would then be paid that amount + extra.

Farsight opted instead to alter the backglass art.

>>3142664
Goddamn. Now he's literally retired from being a poor man's Robotnik in Cyberchase.

>>3142664
Playfield art more notably. He's barely on the backglass, but he's right there between the flippers on the playfield.

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>>3142687
I'd never noticed how well hidden he was.

>>3141616
No, no, no! This torrent from 2004 will be terrible. Do yourself a favor and take the time to install Visual Pinball 10.

>>3142851
It was flawless the first time I used it, but goddamn the bad shit is shining through pretty quick. I got lucky the first few days.

>>3142851
I personally had to replace my copy with 10 and the pins seem to be working fine so far.

>Nobody has uploaded the newest Pinball Arcade version for PC
>Its been months

I just want to play pinball damnit, there's no way I'm handing over hundreds of dollars for DLC.

>>3142876
>doesn't get the original upload came from somewhere else
>doesn't read the credits
doesn't matter at the moment, cs rin ru can't be accessed as a guest atm
>doesn't mean google cache cant help you
>look up any f2p game, https://steamdb.info/app/238260/dlc/
>unlock their dlc

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>>3142664
>>3142687
Fuck, how did I not realize this before?

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Lately I've been playing alot of Elvira Scared stiff, it's alot of fun. I'm lucky to live in a city with a huge pinball scene

Marginally thread-related, but is The Addam's Family movie actually good? I've never seen anything about it other than the pinball machine and some props in the Planet Hollywood restaurant in Vegas when I was a kid.

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>tfw you spend so long hitting nothing but posts that the machine goes into ball search
FUCK

>>3142962
Dude, I got no idea what you're talking about with the look up anything and get everything, I hate to ask for spoonfeeding but give me a tutorial if its legit.

>>3143341
If you like its style of humor, it's worth a watch

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>>3143341
Addams' Family and Addams' Family Values are both extremely good.
Prime Sonnenfeld directed both, Anjelica Huston and Raúl Juliá have the best chemistry I've ever seen for an onscreen couple, Lloyd's in his prime at this point, and Christina Ricci does some brilliant child acting, particularly in the sequel.

Too, you'll get all of the references made in the game.

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>>3143341
>The Addam's Family movie actually good?
Yes. Addams Family Values is just as good.
Stay the fuck away from Addams Family Reunion. Only halfway interesting thing about that piece of shit is the fedora tip guy played Puggsley.

>>3142846
>THA
>MA
>MUSHKA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCNyHprEZK8

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>>3142495
Fox also didn't want his likeness on the backglass. I'm assuming that was to remove any typecasting; he enjoyed being Marty McFly, but he hated staying Marty McFly.

Pic related is actually the artist's son.
Also as you can see, Data East either ponied up for Lloyd's likeness or he just didn't mind being on the backglass.

No idea what the fuck the flyer was doing.

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>>3145270
>No idea what the fuck the flyer was doing.

Marty's Joe Kaminkow, the machine's designer.
Doc is Gary Stern. I'll let you guess what he was in charge of.

Flyers were typically selling to arcades (hence the whole emphasis on profits) and owners would've recognized them. Stern in particular appeared in a lot of flyers.

>>3144941
>Addams Family Reunion
>Tim Curry as Gomez
Who thought this was a good idea?

>>3145308
It was a direct to video pile of shit.
Daryl Hannah played Morticia.
Daryl Hannah.

>>3116481
I've played it. I never got into it much, the design is cool. Alot of people like it

>>3116009
I just completed Scared Stiff Multiball a few days ago, first pin I've completed the playfields. Fuckin great game

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Gonna bump with random pics I took probably drunk, I really enjoy pinball. I'm on a student budget so I can't afford my own machine yet

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>>3147148

We got a Laser War machine here recently. What's the consensus on it?

>>3146607
I love it. The real points are in the snake ramp, but you ain't shit till you actually finish Scared Stiff.

>>3148039
Tell me about the points in the snake ramp? Should I just keep hitting the ramps? They feel so cozy, Scared Stiff Multiball only got me to 4th place

>>3148362
Extend coffin multiball with the spider wheel, get coffin multiball, then spam the fuck out of the snake ramp. The points get ridiculous.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, though, it's been a good while.

>>3148507
Not him but don't the jackpots alternate from the snake and bat ramp?
I personally always go for the coffin extend first (crate extend second) then the extra ball.

It depends on the machine as the refitted LED light one's are easier to get the spider wheel on what you want.

>>3148507
Crap I just played two games before I saw this. But I did test the ramp. It seems like it might start multiplying or stacking back to back ramp shots, starting at 50k. I played two shitty games so I didn't get to find out. Is the tilt on this game really sensitive or is it just my machine? Also the left loop for the lock and The Lab is a pretty hard shot, I manage to brick it hard quite often. Really love this game tho, gonna try your strategy next time

About to go play some Iron Man and probably Sopranos. Really hooked on Iron Man right now. Probably some Dracula also

>>3149734
Pretty sure snakeramp multiplies to a million and gets there quickly.

>>3145285
Neat.

Are you guys excited for any of the new pins? I think it's cool how the market is reemerging. Big Lebowski, Rob Zombie, Ghostbusters, Hobbit. What else?

>>3152549
Iron Maiden

>>3152593
Lies lies

>>3152549
Ramones

>>3152549
Ghostbusters has me hype as fuck.

>>3153240
Me too man

>>3152549
Dialed In

>>3153440
Why?

>>3153454
Because Pat Lawlor is a hack, ask his Mexican draft man why.

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>>3153469
And that's why you're hyped for it?

>>3153515
So The Hobbit and Ghostbusters and Big Lebowski and "Rob Zombie" are retro because they're machines released in 2016 and beyond with pre-2000 themes but Dialed In is not retro because it's an original theme but by the designer of Addams?

>>3153648
All pinball is "retro", why the fuck are you questioning that?
I asked why someone is hyped for Dialed In, as I suspected they may be taking the piss, lo and behold, they were. Or maybe it was someone with a hard on for Lawlor chiming in.

Maybe this board needs ID's to clarify who is posting what, and replying to whom.

>>3153661
Pinball that requires a cell phone to play is retro?

>>3153738
>All pinball is "retro"
Can you not read?

>>3153749
Obviously you can't because your quoted material does not appear anywhere in the post to which you make reference and reply.

>>3153753
Are you trolling or just pretending to be retarded?

>>3153756
Learn to fucking read review your own posts to discover the troll amidst your peers.

>>3153753
May I direct you to >>3153661, particularly the first part. You're being willingly ignorant for some reason.

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>ctrl+f
>no Good Morning America

Come the fuck on guys.

>>3153898
>it's real
>it was designed by Pat Lawlor

>>3153896
Maybe because some pissant discounts JJP's next game as meaningless out of hand. Suppose you're one of those Stern fanboys who'd rather have more cracker jack shit for $8,000 rather than one for the same price with a higher cost of production and bill of materials. Don't get triggered by BOM, Sternboy.

>>3154710
I'm not even that guy. I just noticed you utterly failed to notice the first words in a post you already read. If anybody's acting triggered, it's you.

>>3154724
Learn to read pissant.

>>3154730
You're very mad.

>>3152765
Yeah Stern acquires licenses so they can not use them.

>>3147152
How is Star Trek '09?
Is it half as good as TNG?

>>3155164
It's the best of the recent Stern designs by far.

>>3155516
Nice. It's really amazing that pinball's survived for so long with vidya taking over.

>>3118109
>>3128859
I love Dr. Dude because it gives me that Bill & Ted vibe. Party Zone is just plain weird. I can't even really enjoy the cheesiness of it.

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>implying Judge Dredd isn't the best superhero pin
>implying it doesn't have the best topper

>>3155889
Is there any point in NOT choosing Supergame?

>>3155889
whoa nice
please tell me the bumpers are fat people

>>3155939
If you're playing it at an arcade, it's probably set to cost more money. And I think the JUDGE letters to light regular multiball reset back to J with each ball. Still worth it for that 6-ball chaos, though.

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>>3154847
>Stern Iron Maiden pinball

>>3155164
I haven't put much time in on it, I'm still relatively new to pins but I see alot of old school guys playing it so I imagine it is pretty good. I'm not a huge Star Trek guy I have a hard time wanting to play it, even tho themes don't make a good pin

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>>3111373
>watched a high speed II tutorial
>find machine to play do okay for my first few times didn't get multiball started
>decide to listen to try playing it while listening to eurobeat
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8
>mfw i get multiball, shoot multiple balls into the super charger and I'm shifting gears like maniac all on the first ball

with the super charger is the amount of times balls go around random, or does pressing the flippers at a certain point keep the ball spinning faster?

>>3157084
>tfw never played either High Speed
That will change soon, I know both are around town somewhere

>>3111373
>tfw local bar has an Addams family machine
I wanna go play it but im a giant autist desu

>>3157084
If I remember correctly, the ball goes around 10 times during multiball. So if you need 20 loops to light jackpot, you have to hit the supercharger twice. I think in normal play, the supercharger values increases when you either hit or complete the 1-2-3 targets and maxes out at something like 10 mil.

>>3111373
Is there any archive of DMD animations in .gif format? more specifically fishtales?

>>3157243
So light supercharger before you go into multiball and make those 10 washing machine cycles count.

>>3157153
Go play it is one of the most fun pins

How's Laser War?

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>warehouse nearby does arcade auctions every so often
>this weekend they have Attack From Mars, White Water, Addams Family, Earthshaker, Tales of the Arabian Nights, and Indiana Jones among others up for bids
I wish I wasn't poor as fuck.

>>3111373
how rare and expensive are tng machines? i'd really like to get my dad one

>>3158774
Even if you weren't "poor as fuck", those particular machines are expensive for just about anyone. We're talking upwards of ten grand for some of those.

>>3158808
Not that rare, but still damn expensive because it's a highly sought after game. Somewhere around $4000 for a decent example.

Pinball prices just make me shake my head at all the console gamers who think $200 for Radiant Silvergun is a lot of money.

>>3158812
you're not comparing the prices of complicated almost one-of-a-kind pieces of vintage engineering to a chip automatically burned with a digital image of something you can download and replicate instantly at virtually no cost, are you?

>>3158813
Money is money. As far as gaming goes, pinball collectors spend far more on their hobby than most other types of gamers do. It's just a fact.

>>3158825
>Money is money
and value is value. One of these is not like the other.

>pinball collectors spend far more on their hobby than most other types of gamers do
fuck off, you wannabe elite shithead. You understood nothing.

I've got to say, it's worth getting an iPad/android tablet just to be able to play Pinball Arcade on it.

>>3158856
wouldn't it make more sense to go for a larger screen and more tactile controller?

>>3158858
It would, but then you'd lose the portability.

>>3158860
just like the real thing. portability never really entered my picture when thinking about "pinball"

>>3158856
I have pinball arcade in my PS, it is good for figuring out strategy and gameplay basics

>>3158942
Yeah in the way that Pong is good for practicing your backhand.

>>3158948
I mean it helps more than that you have alot more time to look up at the display and figure out various modes, combos, secrets etc...where as when I'm playing in a real machine I'm concentrating more on ball control. I love controlling balls

>>3158948
Ah, anti-TPA fag reveals himself. I'll give you points for being less aggressive in expressing your hatred, now shut up and stop shitting up this thread.

>>3111396
>Trudeau game like Judge Dredd


My all time favorite.

>>3159229
Extra gap between flippers is in effect, Trudeau signature.

>>3159397
extra compared to what? how much extra?

Apparently the Wii U version of Pinball Arcade has the collectors edition of Adams Family as DLC on the eShop. I assume it's an error?

>>3158846
He was being a little douchey about it, but it's true to an extent.

The value for owning pinball machines is just not there. You will never play the machine enough to justify the cost, plus the amount of time and money you'll need to maintain it. The collectors market is absurd right now, even compared to just 5-10 years ago.

I do think that Saturn and SNES games are overpriced for what they are, but pinball has been hit even harder in recent years. A machine that cost $750 in 2006 can easily go for $2500 now.

>>3158812
>Even if you weren't "poor as fuck", those particular machines are expensive for just about anyone. We're talking upwards of ten grand for some of those.
Well yeah. It's more about having all these great machines looking for a new home within driving distance. I'd gladly try and grab one if I could. I guess there's always the $200 EM machines that no one wants.

>>3158774
You can buy a decent car cheaper than your average pinball table. Best thing you can do is hope some guy's wife is pissed off and decides to sell his machine for peanuts.

>>3160514
cars have considerably worse layouts and themes

>>3160532
No arguments there.

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>>3160532

>>3160532
Call of Duty pinball when? I'm going to message Gary about it now, we go way back

>>3161309
>Call of Duty
The video game series?

how do you go about designing a table? There are obviously things to consider, like the angles you can shoot a ball at, physical limits for ramps and rails not going through each other and so on, but what's the design process like? And how standardized is modern pinball design?

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>>3159592
example of a Trudeau gap

>>3161309
I'd play it

Dark souls pinball when

>>3162472
Did he do Dracula also? I played Creature more than any other pin last year when I was first getting started, and I'm pretty decently mediocre now so I guess It'll thank the gap for that, along with Creatures' brutal physics

>>3162472
which does not answer my questions at all

>>3162998
>so I guess It'll thank the gap for that
or you could just practice and get better

>>3162998
BSD has short Lightning Flippers

>>3163010
I'll practice on your gap anon

Bumping for the Snackbar

are there any pinball dreams/fantasies table remakes in vpin?

What games have the best integration of music? Chris Granner always did a good job with this. Earthshaker and Whirlwind changed the main play music with each individual ball locked. White Water is a particular favorite of mine. The game adds subtle instrumentation with every single raft that you advance.

>>3163007
>spoonfeed me plz

>>3167758
>asking for pinball terms on a pinball thread

How fucking dare he. I for one will never let him know that John Trudeau was notorious for putting wide gaps between flippers to increase the chances of losing and subsequently spending.

Favorite Tables?
personally i like medieval madness or attack from mars since they have semi easy shots and its fun to see a really high score

>>3168026
Scared Stiff will always be my tablefu.

>>3168026
No Fear
Strange Science
Pirates of the Caribbean
I like really poorly made games.

>>3168012
You're awesome anon nno homo

>>3168026
Adams Family, Sopranos, Creature, Scared Stiff, T2, Whitewater

>>3168012
there is no standard gap though, is there? That was my problem. As for draining more often: it's the same for every other player. So the competition just happens on a different level. There are tables you can occupy for hours, and tables where the average game is a few minutes, and that's fine. As long as the player field is level, it can still be a good competition.

>>3168307
Which games have you played multiple-hour-long games on?

Cool, my thread is still here. I went back again tonight, I'm trying to get Grand Champion on Creature (about 400,000,000+). I can only manage 100 mil, and I haven't been able to get the rescue or the jackpots yet.

>>3168368
My highest on Creature was like 199,000, just trying to compete the Multiball. That game is brutal, but because I put so much time on it I can fare pretty well on some of the Sterns

>>3168307
Pretty much. Every table has a high score to beat. Doesn't matter how easy or hard that table is. Only difference is length of play.

>>3168487
>12 ball multiball

Did it go up to 13? I may need to play this.

>>3170449
Scoring exists to negate "length of play" as a determining factor of skill. Cayle George is a top player but when he burned out a flipper from cradling a ball for an eternity it was about the shots he was making with the other balls and the points accumulated from the strategy and exploitation of rules that resulted in his good score and resulting good performance.

I could cradle a ball for hours and net no score. Length of play means nothing. If you want to rack up score quickly on Creature then move your damn car.

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Just learn how to play pinball so you can get Free Spins and wail on the N ramp. And who gives a shit about flipper gap when you rock multiball

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Easy to not drain when you've got hands.

>>3170653
That's exactly what I'm saying. The difficulty of a pin is ultimately irrelevant. All you have to worry about is being better than the scoreboard.

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>new player
>find an amazing Attack From Mars
>get a 6.4 billion on my third game
>#1 score
>"damn, i'm pretty good!"
>watch Bowen Kerin's tutorial
>he casually drops 15 billion
i swear to god, it happens on every game i play
>Medieval Madness
>Terminator 2
>Fish Tales
how long before i git gud?

>>3170721
man these guys have been playing since the 80s and 90s
dont feel bad about low scores when you're starting and btw ive played that table a few times and the highest score ive gotten was 6 bil just shy of 7

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>>3126575
This mother fucker knows. He knows a lot. Nothing comes close to this table.

>>3167437
>The game adds subtle instrumentation with every single raft that you advance.

That's an awesome touch.

>>3167437
Someone else posted this in a previous thread, but Swords of Fury adds new instruments with each ball lock, and it's really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMIp5nG-C3o

Williams was great at capturing that "Heavy metal Dungeons and Dragons Medieval Fantasy" feel.

>>3171010
>the first time you destroy the castle

It really is one of the greats.

>>3171137
If you wanna hear it all in great quality, there's nice medleys on Granner's website.

http://www.cgmusic.net/archives.html

White Water #1 and 3 in particular are for the main play music.

Thoughts on Funhouse?

There's a table in my local burger joint that I play occasionally. I've only been able to get the clock to 11:45 and have trouble hitting Rudy in the mouth, but I had a pretty good run the other day.

This particular machine seems extra generous with the number-matching-free-game thing at the end; I'm either extremely lucky or there's something like a 1 in 5 chance of a free game.

>>3170663
Whats the deal with this? Did Stern decide to make a retro Electro Mechanical?

>>3171745
I think Funhouse is awesome, only problem is the only one I know of near me always has issues. Was down last time I went to play.

>>3172027
Sorta. From my understanding, another team made and designed the machine and Stern manufactured it.

>>3172036
That makes sense. Hard to maintain a robot head.

>>3172036
Mine was out of order for a while, too, so I feel you there.

Call me crazy, but pins are usually much more functional than the video arcade games I find in the wild. I can't tell you how many busted light guns, faded CRTs, and less-than-stellar joysticks I've come across.

>>3172115
Little kids are more likely to go for the video games.

>>3172124
True.
>want to play a game
>can't because a little kid is standing at the machine, smacking the buttons and stick relentlessly
>parents can't be arsed to give him a quarter while they bugger off to do who knows what
I remember this well.

>>3172145
>parents who use arcades as a daycare
disgusting desu

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>>3171745
I really like the game, but Rudy always creeped me out a little.

>>3172942
>COME ON IN

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>>3170721
It depends on how much you play and study the ruleset of particular games

around november of last year I'd be lucky to get 2 million points on medieval madness i played it again yesterday for the first time in months after playing about 100 games spread across different machines between then and now, and now i consistantly get 9 million a game at the least

Don't be discouraged anon Pinball is a somewhat diffcult beast to master

Every single game you play will make you a better player

Every game played will help you learn the tables specific rule set easier

You'l learn how to make specific shots on each table and learn some tricks depending on the table itself

You'l learn to be better at general ball control

Don't compare yourself to pros, only compare you to yourself and people and people at your skill level and you will see yourself improve and it will drive yourself to improve even further, and remember all that matters is that you keep getting better at the game, and having fun.

>>3172981
I can second the hell out of this. I get better every time I play. Just remember what somebody else here said: most of the pros have been playing for over 30 years.

>>3173030
I'll never have as good a game of AC/DC as my first ever. Had a shaker motor and I was playing it like an electric guitar, rocking out hard. Went through all the songs, crowd was gathered, congratulated at the end. Can't even crack my score in PhysMod5.