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find a flaw
Playing imports.

The shoddiest video output of any console.

Other than that, amazing console.
Great system.

Not retro.
Not Retro
Can't play first-party Nintendo games.
480i trash
Not retro
you're right, not retro

>Playing imports.
You can play imports with a modchip

>The shoddiest video output of any console.

Component cables +GSM Mode Selector (up to 1080p) But the console needs to be able to boot up homebrew apps.
If there's one thing I hate about my PS2, it's the interlacing and how only like 5% of the games out there has progressive scan. Fucking Xbox has progressive scan pretty much by standard.
Gross, who would want to?
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This, people become reddit-tier pathetic when it comes to shit like this.
Flip top model in general
Inferior graphics to Xbox's
Exclusives less creative than the Dreamcast's
First party titles inferior to Gamecube's
Third worst controller in its generation, behind the DC and the Duke Xbox controller

Honestly, it's the worst console in its generation in terms of being a machine that plays games. What it did well was having such an expansive library that it's easy to overlook faults. That being said, I appreciate from the hardware side the fact that they did such a good job with the backwards compatibility in the front loading model.
segmented d-pad

>implying flip top model is worse than shoddy tray opening

Everything else you're spot on. Main reason I just can't go back to it is that 95% of the games are 480i only.
Bring on the mechanical problems, anything to avoid top loading anything.

I'm not trying to flame you, but curious. Why is top loading bad?
I live in a tiny box, and toploaders can be stacked if heat isn't a concern. They're also easier to fit into tight spaces, because you don't have to put your arm in and fiddle with things -- just pull it out the front. If the damn thing was more reliable, the NES front loader would be the poster child for my ideal shape - flat top, front loading, light on front, roughly boxy, heavy enough to stay put despite wire jiggling. Only complaints are that it's a big empty shell and the right-side composite outputs.
Not Retro
The flip top model is inferior to the front loader because it packs a lot more heat into a smaller area, its made out of cheaper and thinner plastic, and its missing hard drive and firewire features.

Problem with the front loader is how dusty it gets inside. Sony apparently didn't fully account for dust build up. The biggest reason the front loaders stop reading disks properly is because dust particles are physically obscuring the lens.

If you open a front loader up, and clean the lens with a Q-Tip (cotton bud, whatever) it should last about 5-10 years before needing another clean unless you live in a dusty hellhole.

My original PS2 died, still have a top loader that works. I will grant that the old PS2 got a LOT more use though, got it the year it launched and was my main squeeze for that generation whereas I got the slim just as that gen was dying down.

You're right about the dust buildup - pulled my ps2 slim out of storage a few months ago, couldn't figure out why it was getting so hot just idling at the menu. Opened it up and found the main fan completely clogged with my old dog's hair, RIP little buddy. Cleaned it out and it's fine now but I expect to have to do the same thing again in a year or two.
480/575//720p via Component cable. Best picture, better than any console without hdmi.
The Wii barely managed this years later.
Ya and there's less than 5 games worth a shit that supports progressive.

Meanwhile all the Wii games support 480p at least.

The kids who had a PS2 as their first console are really delusional about that fact.
does that trigger you?
Say that again without blushing in shame?

24: The Game
2006 Fifa World Cup
Alien Hominid
Atari Anthology
ATV Offroad Fury 2
ATV Offroad Fury 3
ATV Offroad Fury 4
Beyond Good & Evil
Burnout 2: Point of Impact
Burnout 3: Takedown
Burnout Dominator
Burnout Revenge
Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 2
Capcom Fighting Evolution
Crash: Mind over Mutant
Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA
Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA 2
Dance Dance Revolution X
Dance Dance Revolution X2
Destroy All Humans
Destroy All Humans 2
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 3
Driver: Parallel Lines
Fatal Frame III: The Tormented
Fifa 08
Fifa 09
Fifa 10
Fifa 11
Garou: Mark of the Wolves - NeoGeo Online
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
God of War
God of War II
Gran Turismo 4
Guilty Gear Isuka
Guilty Gear XX
Guilty Gear XX #Reload
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core PLUS
Guilty Gear XX Slash
Guitar Hero II
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Guitar Hero Aerosmith
Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s
Guitar Hero: Metallica
Gundam vs Zeta Gundam
Haunting Ground
The video output was fine, PS2 could output 240p, 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. Both fat and slim models could use an rf adapter, composite, s-video, component, and RGB via scart or VGA cable. And all these cables are not only interchangeable between the PS1/2/3, they're also compatible with all revisions within those three consoles, with the exception of PS1 not outputting component.

The PS1/2/3 are the gold standard of video game consoles, and of the three the PS2 is the best.

Hitman: Blood Money
Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
Jak II
Jak 3
Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
Jak X: Combat Racing
Jet Li: Rise to Honor
Juiced 2
Kill Switch
King of Fighters '94 Re-Bout
King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match
King of Fighters 2002
King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match
King of Fighters 2003
King of Fighters Neowave
King of Fighters XI
Legends of Wrestling II
Lemony Snicket's: A Series of Unfortunate Events
Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
Major League Baseball 2K5
Major League Baseball 2K6
Major League Baseball 2K7
Major League Baseball 2K9
Mega Man X8
Mega Man X Command Mission
Melty Blood: Actress Again
MLB 2004
MLB '06: The Show
MLB '07: The Show
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
Mortal Kombat: Deception
MVP Baseball 2004
MVP Baseball 2005
MX vs. ATV Unleashed
Nascar 08
NeoGeo Battle Coliseum
NiGHTS Into Dreams...
OutRun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
Outrun2SP: Special Tours
Pac-Man World Rally
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Project Zero 3
R: Racing Evolution
Radiata Stories
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
Ratchet: Deadlocked
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc
Resident Evil 4
Robotech: Battlecry
Robotech Invasion
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Scarface: The World Is Yours
Sega Ages 20: Space Harrier II Complete Collection
A list of shit games like I said.
Some of those aren't even 480p supported. Like ATV Offroad Fury 3.

Man I'm fucking laughing.

Sega Ages 24: Last Bronx ~Tokyo Bangaichi~
Sega Ages 25: Gunstar Heroes ~Treasure Box~
Sega Ages 28: Tetris Collection
Sega Ages 29: Monster World Collection
Sega Ages 30: Galaxy Force
Sega Ages 32: Phantasy Star Complete Collection
Sega Genesis Collection
Sega Rally Championship (bundled w/Sega Rally 2006)
Sega Superstars Tennis
Shadow of the Colossus
Shadow the Hedgehog
Shrek 2
Smash Court Tennis Pro Tournament 2
SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos
SOCOM 3: U.S. Navy SEALs
SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs: Combined Assault
Sonic Mega Collection Plus
Sonic Riders
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
Sonic Unleashed
Soul Calibur II
Soul Calibur III
Spawn: Armageddon
Splashdown: Rides Gone Wild
Spy Vs Spy
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Star Wars Bounty Hunter
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Street Fighter Alpha Anthology
Suikoden IV
Suikoden Tactics
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain
Tekken 4
Tekken 5
The Red Star
The Simpsons: Hit & Run
The Warriors
Thunder Force VI
Tomb Raider: Anniversary
Tomb Raider: Legend
Tomb Raider Underworld
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground
Tourist Trophy
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
True Crime: New York City
True Crime: Streets of LA
UFC: Throwdown
Urban Reign
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Vampire Darkstalkers Collection
Vampire Night
Van Helsing
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
You listing a pack of shit games is proving my point you know?
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I love my NBA and fifa! That only makes up like 20 games in your list.

>>2787604 was my only post itt, pham
Holy fucking shit.
i'll be using this meme more from now on
I expect nothing less, kiddo.
Good progressive titles:
Street Fighter
Soul Calibur
Shadow of the Colossus
Ratchet & Clank
Prince of Persia Trilogy
God of War
Mortal Kombat
Jack and Daxter
Haunting Ground
Beyond Good and Evil
Fatal Frame
Star Wars
Tomb Raider
>Good progressive titles:
>Street Fighter
Inferior to DC
>Soul Calibur
>Shadow of the Colossus
>Ratchet & Clank
>Prince of Persia Trilogy
>God of War
QTE trash
>Mortal Kombat
>Jack and Daxter
Low fps trash
>Haunting Ground
>Beyond Good and Evil
>Fatal Frame
Inferior version
>Star Wars
>Tomb Raider
Real bad

That's ignoring the rest of the library.
There's an r after the v in your URL
Well, the slimline had overheating issues, so there's that.
not retro:
>3d complex open world games arent retro (gta sa)
>unreal engine 2 not retro
>80% of the 3d games have a free camera
>3d shoters dosent have auto aim
>90% of the games use analogic controls
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