So, is USUM considered Gen 7 or Gen 7.5?

>>33540325
gen 7

We had the same arguments in ORAS.

>>33540334
Except now the arguments have solid ground because the UBs are entirely new species of Pokemon, and not temporary forms.

>>33540325
>It's going to be the least different "third version" of the series
>but they added 2 ultra beasts which will just be patched back into SM!
>THIS is the game that gets the first "half gen" designation.

>>33540325
Gen 7 until GF says otherwise. Half of a gen is ill-defined at the moment.

>>33540352
>they added 2 ultra beasts which will just be patched back into SM!
Since when has GF ever patched new forms or evolutions to play with old games?
Deoxys, Girarina, ORAS megas... they all aren't compatible with old same-gen games. (Or they appear as normal sprites.)

>>33540325
The same way B2W2 was defined.

>>33540352
>patched
GF doesn't know you can patch in new content

which is why the new games aren't just DLC

I guess we need to finally decide what the hell does a generation entails, but as far as I'm concerned if you can battle between games, is the same generation.

>>33540438
That logic would make Sun and Moon gen 8, and USUM would likely be gen 9.

>>33540438
i think new starters is a good way to define it

>>33540438
this.

gen 1 games can only battle with other gen 1 games
gen 2 games can only battle with other gen 2 games
gen 3 games can only battle with other gen 3 games
etc

it's the easiest and simplest definition that actually makes sense because the games need to be mechanically similar to be able to battle in the first place.

>>33540446
yeah that's probably the best way to define it

or really just a new "set" of new Pokemon

A new generation needs to
>Be set in a new region
>Not be a remake
>Not be a third version/sequel
>Have a new trio of starters

I guess calling USUM "7.5" is more acceptable than in the ORAS-era, since it actually has new dex numbers, but it's definitely NOT gen 8 yet.

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>>33540446
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>>33540458
>muh starters

please stop. Starters aren't any different from any other Pokemon and there's absolutely nothing stopping them from making more sets of new starters more frequently.

>>33540540
How about
>new starters from the new set of Pokemon
This keeps Yellow in Gen 1 even though it had a different starter from RGB

>>33540325
Gen 7 because same starters

>>33540569
No, because maybe some game will change how starters work completely and we would have more dumb discussion about what a gen is again.

>new games come out with a new style of graphics
>can't trade or battle directly with the last games
>new battle gimmicks
>new characters
>new pokemon
>new items
>no new starters, but you can choose between any old starter
Welp guess we can't call that a new generation.

>>33540540
They actaully are because gamefreak said they are the face of their generation

>>33540325
Gen 7+

Its 6.5 we still got Zygarde

>>33540352
Yeah, they're definitely going to be patched into vanilla SM just like they patched the ORAS megas into XY

>>33540325
>7.5
The fuck is this shit? That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Who even cares, it makes no difference to Game Freak what arbitrary category you want to place the games in

>>33540325
Gen 8. There is no such a thing as half gen.

>>33540443
What?

>>33540325
A gen is a gen, you can't say it's only half.

>>33543145
You can if you look at the Generation designation more like a version number which is clearly the intent when people do this.

>>33540325
Come on! It's just the same game again. How could it be gen 7.5?

>>33540325
Gen 7. Did you consider all the megas in Oras as Gen 6.5?

>>33540325
Maybe with this "ultrawormhole" thing they can introduce to us two gen 8 pokemon into this generation.

>>33540325
Gen 7
Maybe we learn that the UBs are just form changes of a base UB.

2 pokemon dont make half a gen

>>33540403
>BW2 had new pokemon
wew lad