What the fuck happened to this franchise? Pokemon should have

It got better.

>>33516791
Woah, Pokémon sure has changed guiz

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>>33516791
Nothing
You are just a nostalfag with bad taste and you cannot appreciate the great designs of SuMo

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>>33516791
Ftfy

>>33516791
The pokemon have gotten too Japanese. No longer are they RPG monsters, they have turned into uber Japanese god creature things

>>33516795
Both look great

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>>33516796
only the legendaries, which has always been the case, you still have good ol monster designs

I want to be a pokemon and get fucked by my trainer so bad

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My penis disagrees.

the pokemon from the newer gens are absolutely worse, this is apparent if you know any basic philosophy of design, but you can't talk about this without mouth breathers popping up and shouting "GENWUNNER!!!" at you all day

>>33516800
I want to be a trainer and get fucked by my Pokemon so bad.

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I want to be a trainer and get fucked by my Pokemon so bad.

>>33516802
Okay, you tell me what makes good monster in my pocket design, no really, enlighten me.

>>33516802
pokemon nowadays have way more personality than they did before, not only that, but they display greater biological knowledge and diversity, shit like mareanie and toxapex, or shit like lurantis, there are a ton of cool animals that are getting pokemon designs and I think its great, and most of them are comptently designed, with a few duds now and then, but thats just me

>>33516791
This, but unironically.

Anyway, what are the odds that this Pokemon Switch thing is a fully 3D (behind the back) mainline title?
I'm going with 5%.

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Really fires up the ol' coals in my head

>>33516804
>>33516803
Same anons, I'll legit be any side of pokephillic sex.

I just love it...

>>33516802
>>33516806
and the best part about alola is that most of the animals actually made sense for the region, and a lot of them are inspired by Hawaiian creatures, also agree on the personality and design, plus UBs are actually really cool concepts, and I hope they expand on them

>>33516802
please tell us what a good pokemon design is without rehashing fucking arcanine, ninetales or the legendary birbs

>>33516799
Gen7 has a lot of mons with deviant art tier eyeball designs. They just look like garbage. Lycanroc midnight form, for instance.

>>33516807
How are sun and moon not fully 3d?

>>33516813
Non isometric

>>33516812
Sludge with DBZ eyes is sooo much better.

The problem with Pokemon isn't that the new designs are worse, it's that the game design hasn't even changed.

It's that they've remade the same game a total of like 15 times. The first couple were cute, "Oh it's a Sentret instead of a Ratata, a Hoothoot instead of a Pidgey", but now it's just disgusting. Every game has it's Ratata and it's Pidgey, and so on and so on, and I don't understand how anyone isn't sick of the same formula over and over each generation.
Only way I'd buy another is if they made one with plenty of pokemon from all regions, rather than mainly having the new ones in the new games almost exclusively until post. There's more actual variation between COD games than successive Pokemon gens.

>>33516813
I'm sure he means something along the lines of as open at botw but with Pokemon or something, where's that pic from a couple days ago?

>>33516814
Sun and moon are not isometric in the least. What are you on about?

>>33516795
fatshrew is actually pretty cool

>>33516815
>DBZ eyes

You mean normal eyes for that art style? Shit like Lycanroc midnight form is indefensible garbage.

>>33516791
designers probably became furfags somewhere along the line
also they moved further away from realism, making the design and worldbuilding less convincing, partially due to less availability of inspiration
also something about creativity peaking in early 30's

>>33516791
I need cropped lewds

>>33516820
What's wrong with it? It looks like a werewolf, which seems to be the thing they were aiming for.

I want to creampie ANY pokemon's tight slit!

>>33516821
This. Can't say that however without NuKemon shills screetching.

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>>33516795
>SANDshrew
>covered in ice, living in a snowy area
This is the only Alolan form that pisses me off

>>33516802

>newer gens are worse

how is Golisiopod objectively worse than Mr. Mime? I'll wait.

>>33516825
>>33516821
Moved away from realism? Are you high? In the world and trainer designs this is true, definitely not for the monsters.

>>33516816

fans dont know what they want. remember when sumo got shit for DARING to remove gyms and now everyone is lamenting that they are coming back in Ultra?

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Oh, is this the thread where people complain about a series that they don't actually play?

Its so interesting how /v/ reacts to Pokemon. Its one of the few series that you people screech about and demand it changes to cater to your needs, with retarded ideas like HURRRR IT NEEDS TO GO FULL OPEN WORLD or DURRRRRR WE NEED TO GO BACK TO GEN 1 STYLE POKEMON DESIGNS.

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can we all agree that this is when pokemon peaked?

>>33516825
Hi blunderfag, haven't seen you since school started for the kiddies. Can't wait until someone doxxes your stupid ass.

>>33516827
snow is just cold white sand

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>>33516816
>quantity is more important than quality
The people who want a game with every region are absolutely retarded. Do you think GSC is the best because it had two gutted regions instead of one good region?

>>33516795
Cutfags btfo

At the very least I think the crop of pokemon in Gen 7 are more interesting than gen 6

>>33516830
>sumo got shit for DARING to remove gyms
Mostly of /vp/ approved and loved the aproach before the games were released

>>33516823
The eyeballs look fucking retarded is what's wrong with it.

>>33516833

>dissing on ThunderBlunder

don't you have school anon?

>>33516816
So you bought both XY and SM then because they both did exactly what you described

>>33516829
most pokemon from the first generation are pretty close design-wise to living things. as a kid you could imagine pokemon existing in real life, it wasn't too far of a stretch from the imagination. i mean...rattata, pidgey, you get the idea. they were designed reality.

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>>33516794
I love Ghost Robin Bird.

>>33516791
Gen 7 is literally all specific animal bases and a meteor, fuck off

>>33516827
Cause they were originally from hot areas but migrated to snowy areas where they evolved.

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You grew up. That's literally it.

You can't keep a single game or franchise new and exciting forever, you can't play the same fucking game for 40 straight years. When you got older you were supposed to get a job and responsibilities, not spend all day lamenting the changes to a japanese kid's game.

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>>33516811
>I know i have no argument but pretend you don't as well so it's fair.

>>33516843

>magnemite
>grimer
>voltorb
>mewtwo
>jynx

fuck off

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>>33516843
>most pokemon from the first generation are pretty close design-wise to living things.
You can say that about every single gen, though. Most are based on real life animals or objects, or around mythology from our world. Even the alien UBs resemble pests and invasive species.

>>33516847
>get a job and responsibilites
But I don't want to be a boring wagecuck.

>>33516808
OP BTFO

>>33516820
Then why didn't ponyta have the same eyes.

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>>33516837

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>>33516791
When I see a Sandshrew posted in a pokemon OP, especially praising that Sandshrew, you get a post in your thread and a (You) from me.

>>33516849
>magnemite, a literal magnet
>grimer, literally sludge
>voltorb, a literal pokeball
>jynx, a literal black person
Mewtwo is an exception, but everyone loves him.

>>33516850
No you can't.

You can say that there are animal inspired mons in every gen. You can't say that the bulk of newer mons are animal inspired; and the reliance on just making some animal into a humanoid has become commonplace.

I can forgive the ultrabeast designs, they're supposed to be some eldritch looking shit; but there are too many pokemon in the last 3 generations that look like people in animal masks or that simply look like nothing in particular.

>>33516848
>greentext
>cherrypicking one reply
looks like you lost

>>33516827
>>33516846
Why do they need to migrate to a cold area when there's a desert right next to it?

>>33516859
Who said they needed too?
Maybe they're hipsters

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>>33516857
>No you can't.
Yes, you can. Tell me which gen had mostly shit that wasn't inspired by real world animals, objects, and mythological figures? Just because something is bipedal doesn't mean it is "unrealistic" for the Pokemon world, or your argument fails for the first four gens as well.

Oh wait, you can't, because you don't play Pokemon.

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>>33516832
Nah man. fish with horn that becomes a bigger fish with horn. never got any better than that.

>>33516853
Ponyta has generic animal eyes; the black dots. Muk has normal people eyes, which make it appear more sentient. Seeing as Muk is sentient goop, it fits.

Guys, guys. Pokemon is and always has been terrible.

Also theres a form for this

>>33516832

Look at seel always makes my back hurt

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>>33516864
Forgot pic

>>33516864
But Pokemon is better than your favorite monster-catching game.

Digimon? Fucking dead.
Monster Rancher? Fucking dead.
Yokai Watch? Fucking dead.
Now it only has Monster Hunter Stories as competitor.

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>>33516862
FUCK YEAH OLD MEMES

Honestly I'm really only salty about Fairy type being added as late as they did, allit really did is fuck the meta
At least Dark and Steel added some relatively cool new Pokemon to Gen 2, all we really got from Fairy was the gayest Eeveelution yet, while elevating other Pokemon that were already good (Gardevoir) to new levels of "fuck you".

>>33516869
Sylveon is amazing you pleb, my shiny one is a glorious monster that shreds plebs using M-Salamence.

>>33516868

Oh that takes me back

>>389964715
I beat him in Pokemon Yellow. What a gay.

>>33516868
DON'T MISS THE DALLAS MOWER EXPO

When they switched from Gameboy Colour to Gameboy Advance they got carried away. Ever since then Pokemon have had a tendency to be really, really overdesigned.

>>33516791
Only animal fuckers would be mad about this. It's a good thing they are taking the actual good ques from Digimon and giving us humanoid waifu pokemon.

>>33516794
This design is a winner. Went right into my favorite poke spot, Heracross is second now.

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>>33516857
Prove it you fucking faggot. Here are all the gen 6 monsters that are mostly based on animals or have minimal human influence in their designs.
As you can see it's the grand majority of them.

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>>33516804
I wanna be a Gardevoir (male) and get fucked by my trainer's other Pokemon so bad.

>>33516867
SMT

>>33516867
Actually, the new digimon rpgs are selling well, aren't they?

I like different ideas they can use with pokemon. There's only so much you can do with animal designs until you gotta think of something else.

Tapu Fini best island guardian.

>>33516857
>You can't say that the bulk of newer mons are animal inspired

you absolutely can and the series is only getting more and more specific with its inspirations

to list just a few, gen 7 has
>a coconut crab that turns into a yeti crab
>a bee fly (I'll admit losing its proboscis was lame)
>a reverse diving bell spider
>a mata mata turtle
>a reverse orchid mantis
>a crown of thorns starfish

and going bipedal has nothing to do with the design basis

>>33516867
You do make a valid point. I always liked the Digimon show more, but in terms of games yeah it's super dead. Digimon World 1 and 3 and Rumble Arena are the only good games I've played.

>>33516877
I think the problem is with proportions. The heads are often too small for the bodies, they look like plushies.

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>>33516791
Nothing really. At least with gen 7 they gave us some amazing bug types to make up for only one line in XY.

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>>33516870
I still hate your faggoty Madoka cat or whatever the fuck it is
I've autistically used a team of Pokemon who have Psychic in their types (Alakazam, Slowbro, Eggexcutor, Medicham, etc) for the past few years and I couldn't find one move on a team of 6 Pokemon that was SE when I played this one meta-abusing asshole I know

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>>33516874

>A series spanning 20 years and 4 handheld generations along with huge leaps in grafix technology experiences an art shift

I mean the original pokemon sprites before the updated versions hit the west looked completely different too. Much more savage

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>>33516791
>Make a pokémon based on an animal
>LITERALLY MY MOM'S DOG POKÉMON IS DEAD!
>Make a pokémon not based on an animal
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY ISN'T IT AN ANIMAL POKÉMON IS DEAD!
>Retards still not realizing Pokémon has had both fantastical and reality-inspired creatures since its inception and nothing changed
Fuck off retard

>>33516853
>large irises to indicate innocence, cuteness, harmlessness
>small irises to indicate sneakiness, cluelessness, aggressiveness
someone hasn't taken cartooning 101. also this >>33516863

>>33516819
CARLOS!

>>33516885
Vivillon is a monster, to be fair.

>Hurricane
>Substitute
>Sleep Powder
>Quiver Dance
>@Leftovers

Enjoy setting up safely and crushing the enemy team/

>>33516879
>no competitive aspects
>already getting fucked hard by Persona and otaku-pandering
LOL

>>33516888
I want more fantasy based pokemon.

>>33516880
Wait hol up. So what you're saying is, they are still making Digimon games? On what? The 'NEW 3DS2'?

>>33516880
>b-but Cybersluts
Already dead as fuck

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>>33516893
Say no more, senpai.

>>33516884
True, but it usually applies to pre-evos since those usually are made to appeal to girls and to look more friendly.
Compare Fletchling to Talonflame. the former is exaggerated to look cute and the latter has more realistic proportions to look cool.
Also I wouldn't call it a problem.

>>33516861
You can see it reflected in the legendary choices.

Gen 1
Mew - mouse
Mewtwo - mutated mouse
Legendary birds
Pseudo legendary - Dragon

Gen 2
Celebi - spacie shit like Clefairy; literally a fairy
Legendary dogs
Pseudo legendary - stone dino beast

I don't much like the gen 2 dex.

Gen 3
Deoxys - some DNA goop thing because space
Jirachi - another space fairy
Rayquaza - dragon
Kyogre - whale
Groudon - big lizard
Legendary duo - dragons

Gen 4
Dialga and Palkia - space dragons
Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit - weird fairy shit
Manaphy - water sprite thing
Giratina - dragon
Regis - elements

The downhill ball really picks up speed in this generation. A bunch of weird spacie shit, and dragons; and spacie dragons.

Gen 5
Vicinti - chipmunk thing
Legendary deer? - deer things
Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem - dragons
Landorus, Thunderous, Tornadus - genie shit with fucked looking animal forms
Genesect - robobug

Gen 5 reeled it back in, to it's credit.

I'm sick of typing, so I'll conclude that gens 6 and 7 are at least attempting to bring it back to animals with their legendary pokemon. We had 3 solid generations of weird space fairy shit and just dragons. However, overly flamboyant designs are still creeping their way into the game. Lycanroc midnight form almost looks like a decent pokemon design, but they just had to give it retarded eyes; it's like they can't help themselves.

>>33516891
Well I loved Spewpa and Vivillon was alright, but I was just bored with the gen's designs as a bugfag, since all it ended up being was yet another lepidopteran line among a series with several already and outside of the nice trading gimmick, it was just that, a regular cartoon butterfly, which I had with Butterfree.

>>33516896
Literally the only good Pokemon to come out of XY.

>>33516898
>Mew and Mewtwo
>mouse
You sure?

>>33516887

I mean, I'm not angry about it but it is what it is, I think the graphical constraints of the first two generation helped them come up with design that are a lot more memorable and to the point.

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>>33516900
*blocks your path in Spanish*

>>33516901
Mew is a mouse. Mewtwo is literally a mutation of that mouse.

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>>33516899
I dunno, I think its way more awesome than Butterfree just for the color gimmick, but the fact that its incredibly good in battles elevates it above other moths for me (except Volcarona and Masquerain, who are my faves).

>>33516903
I can't believe he broke his fucking neck.

>>33516894
vita games that eventually got Ps4 ports. Cyber sleuth and next Order.

>>33516892
>caring about competitive autism: the game
>caring about multiplayer at all
But I won't disagree that Persona killed the mainline games, that's fucking trash

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>>33516904
Mewtwo has awesome character design though!

>>33516898
Oh fuck off, all of those legends are based around mythological figures, just like my post said.

>>33516904
Mew and Mewtwo are stated to be felids, not rodents.

>>33516906
That fucker deserved it. Roaring like that disturbs the peace.

>>33516909
You post that like it's a bad thing

>>33516903
oh fuck i forgot my nigga hawlucha
i love that flying bastard

>>33516904
always thought it was a cat
mew = meow

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>>33516909
Woops, wrong picture.

>>33516886
>Arbitrarily limit yourself
>Complain when you lose because you arbitrarily limited yourself
Fuck off

I want to give Lilligant headpats

>>33516910
What does that have to do with their visual designs? The mythical backstory is slapped on afterwards. You can lump Celebi, Jirachi, Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit, and Manaphy into one category called "fairy looking shit". They all have matching proportions and I wouldn't be shocked to find them all drawn from the same base form. It's shit, you fucking retard.

>>33516905
Face is a little too "happy cartoon face" for me on Vivillon compared to Butterfree's, but I don't really play comp much so Vivillon's utility is lost to me.
Volcarona is top though.

>>33516886
>not having a single psychic/steel type
You deserved it

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>there will never be a real Pokémon game on mobile with a fixed buy price and no microtransactions
>we will never be able to battle our friends and total strangers from anywhere

All because Nintendo has to sell their shitty underpowered and overpriced plastic shit consoles.

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>>33516920
Volcarona is indeed top tier.

>>33516919
>What does that have to do with their visual designs?
The fact that they're visually inspired by mythological figures? For fucks sakes, anon, this isn't rocket science. You could list almost any legendary and I could explain the reasoning behind its design. Your argument is garbage and you've embarrassed yourself.

>>33516898
>Gen 4
>Regis
Educate yourself nigga

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>>33516917
When I can't win with
>Metagross
>Medicham
>Alakazam
>fucking Deoxys
and I still lose, nah, you and your gay-ass fairies can fuck off.

>>33516926
If you have Metagross and you lose to fairies you are doing something horribly wrong. Sashed Alakazam can take out 1-2 of whatever on his own easy, too.

>>33516873
BOGGLE?

>>33516926
do you not have meteor mash on metagross or something

>>33516924
I don't think they can ever beat Volcarona's design. Everything about it is perfect. Even the larval state is great.

>>33516877
none of those look like they could exist in real life. they all have cartoony proportions, are anthropomorphic in nature, and are too far removed from reality design-wise. that's one reason i preferred pokemon to digimon. getting attacked by a bunch of common spearows in a nearby tree was believable. they were part of the worldbuilding, not 'look at this cool new wacky pokemon design.'

>>33516924
>they're visually inspired by mythical figures
>look at all these images for evidence

Except you have fucking nothing. They're generic fairy shit with a backstory inspired by mythical shit; you fucking idiot.

dude wutabbout le diglett lole genwunners btfo

>>33516923
I always liked Jynx.

>>33516931
>none of those look like they could exist in real life
looks like you have to add dbz eyes to make them realistic lmao

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>>33516930
Its easily my favorite bug, its so amazing. But honestly Gen 5 and Gen 7 gave us so, so many good bugs, we're really on the up and up.

>>33516932
You're just a retard who thought the Regis debuted in Gen IV and represented "elements". Eat a dick or actually post something legendary that you think has no mythological or real-life influenced grounding.

>>33516934
Its a pretty fun pokemon. Unique typing, decent stats, a nice hidden ability - what's not to like?

>>33516936
not him but I would like to see you try celebi

>>33516936
That's the main reason gen 5 and 7 are among my favorites design wise, Pokemon I could only dream about as a kid getting in and they ended up being incredible designs like Volcarona, Golisopod, Buzzwole, Scolipede, etc.

>>33516831
No, this is a poke porn thread you dummy

>>33516936
>you put regis in the wrong gen, so everything you've ever said is wrong

It was only a matter of time before your argument devolved to this shit. There's nothing about the fairy trash legendary pokemons' visual design that has any basis on real mythical stories. They're literally generic shit with a back story stapled on after the fact. No amount of your own autism can change that.

>>33516791
Whats up boy
Never got your cock sucked by a pokemon?

>>33516938
Shinto nature worship. In particular there is an obvious fairy influence, which you can see in the name Selbi.

Why do retards conflate "older designs were better" with "all older designs were good"?
Is it because they know they don't have an argument so they have to beat down a strawman?

>>33516941
Either post some legendaries or shut the fuck up, I've already blown you out as have others in the thread.

>>33516927
I don't know how the fuck it happened honestly, and frankly I might just be biased, but that match was the most frustrating game of Pokémon I've ever played, and it happened to primarily involve one fucking Fairy
>>33516929
I did, it was a doubles match and I think they got a lucky crit on him with a Banette or some shit then proceeded to stomp all over me with Sylveon

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>>33516926
>has a Metagross
>Can't beat a fairy
I didn't know it was possible to be THIS bad at a children's game. Are you a gaming journalist or something?

>>33516944
You answered your own question, here's a (You)

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>>33516826
OP btfo, also honorable mention to Blackface

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>>33516934
me too

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>>33516791

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I miss Jigglypuff

I think Gen V became one of my favourite generations just for all its bugs. I always loved Bug types but they sucked before then, and suddenly boom Galvantula bam Volcarona bom Scoliopede. It was pretty damn satisfying.

>>33516945
I posted a full list of legendary pokemon with garbage designs.

Here's your main problem, you fucking retard. You conflate the backstory with the pokemon as justification for its visual design. You actually believe that the design of something like Jirachi, the way it that it looks to your eyeballs, has some basis in real mystical stories. It doesn't. The designs of these pokemon is generic, chibi fairy garbage. After that chibi, fairy garbage design is finished, they then grab a real mystical story and retool it to suit the chibi, fairy garbage pokemon that they drew.

Once again, I'm telling you that the visual design of these pokemon is uninspired shit. I'm sure that you'll, once again, tell me something complete irrelevant about how the backstory was inspired by something real; because you're an illiterate fucking retard.

>>33516951
Amoongus is such a better mimic idea than Voltorb.

>>33516931
>none of those look like they could exist in real life
Please, go ahead and show me a realistic pokemon, I want to know the extends of your stupidity.
>getting attacked by a bunch of common spearows in a nearby tree was believable
Yeah, it's not like the first thing you fight in XY is a damn pidgey right.
>anthropomorphic
Elaborate, use examples instead of throwing around buzzwords.
>they were part of the worldbuilding, not 'look at this cool new wacky pokemon design.'
Literally fucking wrong. You know how they picked the first 151 pokemon? They had a bunch of different designs by different artists and they voted which ones they liked the most. They just picked whatever the fuck they thought it was cool.If anything they are more deliberate with they worldbuilding now.
And digimon always had more attempts at realistic monsters than pokemon ever had. Go compare agumon and charmander and tell me which one looks like it actually has muscles and organs.

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>>33516953
>I always loved Bug types but they sucked before then
I'll kindly ask that you delet this

Friendly reminder that after creating one of the most successful game franchises ever to exist, gamefreak went on to value quantity over quality and now have;
>a key ring pokemon
>a chandelier pokemon
>an ice cream pokemon
>a sarcophagus pokemon
>a pile of garbage pokemon
>a totem pole pokemon
>a hot air balloon pokemon
>a clay doll pokemon
>a floating sword pokemon
>a barnacle pokemon

Yeah, great "designs" you got there

>>33516957
Well of course there were exceptions that made me love them. Beedrill will always be my nigga. I just mean gameplay-wise, there were very few that were worth putting on a team.

>>33516954
>I posted a full list of legendary pokemon with garbage designs.

You listed like every single legendary you mouthbreathing dullard. I'm not going to pick apart your garbage when its obvious to every single person reading this thread that you are retarded.

POST A SINGLE LEGENDARY POKEMON THAT DOES NOT HAVE A MYTHOLOGICAL OR OTHERWISE REAL WORLD BASED REASON BEHIND ITS DESIGN CHOICE

But you won't because you're wrong and everyone knows it, champ. Or should I say, chump.

>>33516958
Gen 1 confirmed GOAT, how will pokemillenials defend this?

>>33516851
Well you can then be the hip cool wagecuck, eh? Eh?

>>33516958
what do you have against barnacles? are you a sea captain?

>>33516954
To be fair, the wish granting thing is based on the Tanabata tradition of writing your wish on a slip of paper. That's what those little blue things dangling off Jirachi's head are for.

>>33516956
>know the extends of your stupidity
you mean extent? the irony.

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>>33516953
You can use a full bug team in Gen V and have amazing coverage, its so awesome.

But to be fair the reign of bug dominance began with Heracross and went into overdrive with Gen IV Scizor.

We just need a legendary bug now, that's all I want.

>>33516950
Lovely Kiss is a damn good move with her speed.

>>33516916
TAKE A MELODY

>>33516965
>says the guy who thought the Regis were from Gen IV

>>33516966
But Gen 5 had a legendary bug called Genesect.

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>>33516958
>Klefki
>Bad

>>33516958
Ccofagrigus has a great design delete this post right now

>>33516960
Well, I wasn't wrong.

Prove that a single fairy shit pokemon's VISUAL DESIGN has any basis on mythical story.

VISUAL DESIGN. You illiterate fuck. Do you understand what those words mean? VISUAL DESIGN, NOT BACKSTORY; THE WAY THE POKEMON LOOKS TO YOUR EYEBALLS.

Fucking an hero already, you unbelievable autist.

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>>33516837

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>>33516958
>not liking Chandelure
>not liking Cofagrigus
>not liking Aegislash
>not liking motherfucking Boo-Boo Keys
I didn't know shit taste reached this level.

>>33516966
What if I told you there's a Bug/Ice legendary coming next generation?

>>33516970
Holy shit I forgot about Genesect, how will I ever live this down. I even got the event one in BW2 (although I just boxed it because it seemed way too OP).

We still don't have a Poison legendary, right?

>>33516957
Can you get Heracross in SM?
He's my favorite bug bro

>>33516965
All right, maybe I am retarded. Are you going to ignore the rest or my post or what?

>>33516969
sorry but i'm not that anon

>>33516957
>That encounter rate
I love this guy but he was always a pain to get. I only fell in love with him because I got to use him in Colosseum.

>>33516976
it'll be slow and defensive with the only recovery move being Rest

>>33516977
Nihilego if you count UBs as legendary

>>33516973
>Prove that a single fairy shit pokemon's VISUAL DESIGN has any basis on mythical story.
Jirachi? OK, you're done, retard. Everyone in the thread is telling you you're wrong, take a hint and fade away.

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>>33516791
you can make most pokémon look like a lusty bitch
there's nothing intentionally sexy about tapu lele
why the person who made this didn't pick the dominatrix fruit or the lizard literally adding humans to her harem is beyond me

only explanation is that he's completely obsessed with lele and made this image during fap sessions because he considers her the sexiest pokémon alive e.g. he's a hypocrite or baiting

Pokemon has always had shit designs. Jynx, Mr. Mime, Voltorb and Magmar are some of the absolute worst.

>>33516981
Is it really that bad? Just headbutt trees in Azalea Town, I don't remember having a hard time.

>>33516978
No, sadly. And it's a damn shame because it's a fucking TROPICAL SETTING. Incidentally you can't get Bellosom and Tropius either. Leave it to Game Freak to go full retard

>>33516978
No. Heracronite is also only from a serial code.
>>33516982
Nihilego is considered to be sharing the same "sub legend" status as things like the Regis or Latis according to the dex.

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What's your favorite Pokemon type, /v/?

Mine are Ice types.

>>33516989
Hard choice between Bug and Flying.

>>33516989
Bug, Electric and Ghost always compete for #1 for me.

>>33516969
>800+ pokemon and 90% of them have uninspired, garbage designs
>"omg you didn't even know that the regis were gen3 and not gen4"

No, I didn't remember that because I played the game 15 years ago; now fuck off.

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>>33516989
Ghost and Water

>>33516989
Fairy, Psychic, and Water.

There's so many I actually like, though. Fairy tops the board at the very least.

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>>33516826
>Via 9gag.com

>>33516953
Me too, and gen 7 for having 2 Bug legendaries after only Genesect and (technically) Arceus-Bug.
Now I can have a full bug powerhouse team.
>>33516966
Buzzwole and Pheromosa are considered to be minor legendaries in the game code like all the other UBs, the Tapu, and any other minor legend group.

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>>33516989
I love Ice types, I just wish more of them were actually fucking viable. My all time favorite is fighting though
>Tfw this goofy-ass mother fucker will never be good

>>33516983
>offer no evidence
>"ok, you're done, everyone thinks you're wrong, just leave"

You're a goddamn charicature of an autist.

>>33516992.
>OMG you expect me to know what I'm talking about wow I just can't even
If you haven't played the game in 15 years maybe you should shut the fuck up and stop lecturing people who obviously know more than you.

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>>33516989
dark

>>33516989
Grass and Psychic.

>>33516989
Fire, ghost and psychic in that order.

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>>33516989
Bug

Pokemon design was never good.

>>33516986
Looking at it now the encounter rate wasn't that bad but I didn't even know he was there and I wasn't going to spend all day headbutting trees.

>>33516998
If you don't understand the mythology behind Jirachi than I don't want to waste my time explaining it, because you're already proven yourself to be a contrarian who is dead set on being "proved wrong".

Slink off into the gutter, you've got zero argument and zero supporters in this thread who buy your garbage.

>>33516999
>talking about how pokemon look
>forget which gen a pokemon is from because I'm not some underage faggot, but not what it looks like
>this makes unqualified to talk about how it looks

Ok, retard.

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>>33516989
Ghost

How come I can't get an island guardian to suck my cock?

>>33517007
>I forgot which gen the Regis came from but you're the retard
Also you're underage apparently if you know what you're talking about, good to know.

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>>33517008
I thought that Cofagrigus's hand was a Cradily from the thumbnail

>>33517006
He doesn't even have to, I already did right here >>33516964

>>33517006
You still haven't defended the visual design of a single pokemon; because you don't actually know the basis for their backstories. You probably know the bullshit pokemon backstory, but not the source material for it.

Good job, retard.

>>33517007
>forget which gen a pokemon is from because I'm not some underage faggot
Someone underage would probably not know the Regis came from Gen 3. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>389968338
BEEP BEEP RICHIE

>>33516997
Ice could be if GF gave them speed instead of making them slow as fuck.

>>33517010
>>33517014
>I played gen3 for the first time this year because I just found out it existed
>I know all about the gen3 pokedex because I'm not underage

Ok.

>>33516997
Does this poor bastard have Ice Shard or Sucker Punch? It just needs some priority.

>>33516802

man I sure like jinx and mr.mime over toxapex or araquanid

>>389968338
I'M A JEEP

>>33517017
What is your argument, even? Stop damage controlling, just accept that you said something really fucking stupid and stop calling people underage for pointing out that the Regis debuted a gen earlier than what you claimed.

>>33516958
>quantity over quality
>When newer gens have been adding less Pokemon than before

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>>33517003
only correct answer really
see, bugs simply work the best because they actually "evolve" in their lifetime
wasn't pokémon originally going to be just about bugs

>>33517017
Just own up to your fucking mistakes you damn idiot.

>>33517017
>damage controlling THIS HARD on an anonymous image board
Holy crap anon, grow up.

Pokemon designs have always been mediocre, just with some highlights mixed in.

The issue with Gen 7 is that they were too many shitty designs with good ideas. Why doesn't Decidueye have arrow shaped feathers? Why does Crabrawler become mentally ill? Who the fuck approved any of this? WHY DOES POKEMON SAGE HAVE BETTER DESIGNS

>>33516898
Alright just because nobody pointed out your stupidity let me do it.

>gen1
mewtwo is not a fucking mouse you faggot. It´s a mutant. Just because mew´s DESIGN is based on a mouse doesn´t mean mewtwo is the same
legendary birds don´t have anything
pseudo is a tale of a snake becoming a dragon

>gen2
celebi is based of a fairy
legendary CATS not dogs
pseudo legendary is fucking gozilla you idiot
and ho-oh is a fucking phoenix while lugia is whatever

>gen3
Deoxys is just an alien
jirachi is a star/comet, which resembles the japanese festival Tanbata festival. Because during a falling star/festival everyone wishes for something
Kyogre is an orca you idiot
Groudon is clearly a dinosaur both resemble acient times
pseudo is still a dragon and whatever metagross is.
regis elements

>gen4
Dialga and Palkia :creation of space and time
trio - consciousness
giratina: antimattery a.k.a satan
manaphy is based on a sea angel
shaymin is a hedgehog-ish thing
pseudo is a shark
now your stupid downhill

>gen 5
Reshiram, Zekrom is Ying and Yang
zekrom is the middle ground a.k.a grey
genesect is Neon Genesis Evangelion EVA001 and 002
victini are japanese apple bunnies
pseudo is a hydra

>gen6
you cry about legendaries not resembling animals anymore but say that xerneas beeing a deer is bad. But for you faggot:
Xerneas is tree of life resembling a deer a.k.a yggdrasil
Yvetal is the death resembling a vulture also something nordic
Zygarde is resembles a snake which is also something nordic.
They also fucking resemble Alchemy
Magerna is artificial life
hoopa is a djinn
volca... resembles energy and the three of them resemble humans probably Body, Soul, Energy

And fucking goodra is a fucking snail

NOW FUCK OFF

>>33517024
>>33517021
I did own it. I haven't played it in over a decade. That doesnt' mean I suddenly forgot what the regis look like, you fucking retards.

What's your argument? Someone can't comment on a pokemon unless they can also cite their pokedex entry? Fuck right off you goddamn autists.

>>33517027
Thanks for doing what I was far, far too lazy to do. But you know he's just going to keep shitposting, sadly.

>>33516989
Steel has always had the most consistently good designs. It's also the second best type gameplay wise since it's introduction.

>>33516989
psychic
>is its own weakness
not sure how i felt about that

>>33517026
>Sage
Kys

>>33517028
>What's your argument? Someone can't comment on a pokemon unless they can also cite their pokedex entry? Fuck right off you goddamn autists.

How about "someone can't claim that this pokemon has no real world or mythological grounding in its design when its clear they know nothing about what they're talking about"?

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>>33516791

>hurr durr why is thing not like thing before?

>nittpicks thing he likes and thing he doesn't like

>am I relevant yet?

>no one has ever done this before

>hurr durr thing i never liked should cather to my tastes despite being a successful franchise and being loved by tons of people.

and anon still thinks he is relevant on this day and age.

>>33517031
that's ghost and/or dragon bro

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>>33517027
>Genesect is Unit 1 and Unit 2
He looks nothing like Anno.

>>33517027
>They also fucking resemble Alchemy
what? how?

>>33517027
>let me clear up all your WRONG about the visual design of these pokemon
>proceed to talk about the conceptual inspiration

You're a genuine fucking idiot.

>>33517037
I know specifically that the gen 7 cover legends represented alchemy, not too sure on gen 6 though.

>>33517023
the concept was inspired when tajiri imagined a bug walking on a link cable

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>>389964715

When all you do is get easy victories against novice kids and a duo of idiots who once lost to a single Caterpie it's no surprise he got overwhelmed and either gave up ot got himself killed.

>>33517038
Anon, if you think everyone in the thread is wrong, maybe you should stop for a moment and consider what the common factor is.

what is even being argued ITT
I don't even think the people that are shitflinging even know

>>33517023
No.

First Pokemon designed was Rhyhorn. This is also why so many Gen 1 Pokemon resemble Rhyhorn. (Toriyama eyes, dinosaur-esque.)

>>33517023
They also include transitional stages such as cocoons, which is wonderful.

>>33516996
>Buzzwole and Pheromosa are considered to be minor legendaries in the game code like all the other UBs, the Tapu, and any other minor legend group
>in the game code
What does this mean? How does the game differentiate between legendaries, minor legendaries and regular Pokemon?

>>33517043
Some anon claimed that the legendary pokemon were just random shapes and had no inspiration from mythology or other sources in their design, and proceeded to tard out when he revealed he didn't know much about pokemon.

>>33517046
The pokedex entry sparkles

>>33517018
Nope, zero priority moves. Not even Drain Punch.

>>33517049
Good god

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>>33517023

>>33517050
Ice types have always had garbage movepools
>Kyurem-B doesn't have a single proper STAB besides fucking Outrage

>>33517042
>this pokemon looks like a mouse
>actually it's backstory is that it's a mutant even if its visual design is that of a mouse

This whole thread is about how the pokemon look, not their make believe backstories. You fucking idiots have nothing defend most of these garbage designs, and so you've spent the whole thread citing the conceptual inspiration of these pokemon and ignoring what they actually resemble.

It's irrelevant that Mew's backstory is that it's some DNA amalgamation mutant. It's looks like a fucking mouse. Do you get it yet?

>>33517038
> visual design...because they design a monster and then just think well let´s just say it´s themed of a god of water???????

>>33517036
They are not making 1:1, just make slight references. It´s a purple mecha, which was prior a lifeform and it´s shiny is red.

same with Bisharp that´s a reference to megaman and zero. Look at the shinies.

>>33517037
eh mostly philosophers stone. Because take life and give life. But yeah Gen 7 resembles a lot more.

>>33517046
Legendaries are denoted to be the mascot trios/main legends and mythicals.
Sublegends are most anything else legendary.
Outside of the game code that was datamined, you can see this in SM with the color coded dex, normal is blue, sublegend is green, legend is gold.

>>33516987

Belloseom got quiver dance at least so it wasn't forgotten. The buffs Johto mon got in SM has me thinking Ultra will give them Alolan formes.

>>33517043
I pointed out that gens 2-4 are filled with generic fairy shit pokemon that all look alike. These retards proceeded to tell me about their deepest lore backstories while completely ignoring that they indeed all look alike and are generic fairy shit designs.

>>33517052
Lapras and Aurorus have great movepools.

>>33517054
> visual design...because they design a monster and then just think well let´s just say it´s themed of a god of water???????

Yes, that's exactly what they do. There's likely a base design and then they add some simple frills and bullshit to suit the selected lore.

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>>33517053
>mew is a mouse
and nobody said it´s wrong you idiot. You said that mewtwo is a mutated mouse and now you are saying that nobody cares about stupid backstories.

But if this looks to you more like a mutated mouse than a mutant than it´s ok and yeah it´s nice how you don´t have any other argument besides
>I-It doesn´t look like the design intention for me

>>33517058
>Aurorus
and sadly cannot use any of it before being assblasted by one of its 6 common weaknesses
it doesn't even have aurora veil like what the fuck gamefreak

>>33517060
Mewteo looks like a rabbit

>>33517053
it's a CAT

>>33517027
legendaries are fantastical designs. arguing what they imply about the design philosophies of their generations is meaningless. the reason they were more effective was because of the simplicity of more common designs in earlier gens. having rattatas and pidgeys running around makes the ho-oh flying overhead that much more special. back then, "common" really meant common, and "rare" meant rare. of course, simple but iconic designs are not easy to make, which pokemon had.

>>33517060
>Mew is a mouse
>Mewtwo is a fucked up clone of Mew
>Mewtwo is a mutant mouse

That was really hard, anon; I can see why you didn't understand it.

>b-but their designs are so different, it can't be that simple

Oh my, is somebody realizing that the visual direction in these games is complete shit?

thanks mods

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>/v/ is underage enough to hate this

>>33516794
Why do you post one of the worst designs in Gen. 7? That just proves OP right

>>33517059
>Design Jirachi
>Hey, this just happens to be star shaped and have tags on its body kind of like that festival
>I guess we have our lore
Are you serious? Do you honestly think this is what happens? Of course some of the designs are random generic trash, but saying all of them are just shows that you're misinformed.

Since when are pokemon threads not anymore allowed on /v/ for fucks sake?!

>>33517064
Pokemon still have common or simple designs. People act like crazy, because the pokemon they caught from fucking 20 years ago was different than one made in this year.

And the difference between a legendary and a route 1 mon is still there.

>>33516794
All 3 S/M starters look like rancid ass.

Owl fuck looks like it was drawn by an elementary school child.

The catman is is literally a cats head on a man's body.

The mermaid is visually offensive all around. Shit color scheme, shit details.

>>33517081
>take base fairy shit design
>add star shape to its head and scribble down some paper tags
>now it's based on a festival

That's how it happens, you dense fuck.

>>33516792
t. Waifufag

>>33517098
So you're saying that its visual design is influenced by the mythology that the designers chose?

>>33517098
>mutlimillion dollar franchise
>dude just draw some shit and add somethings it´s not like anyone cares !

>Creation of kyogre
>guys just draw some cool monsters
>oh yeah we thought of a land vs sea lore
>oh great one of you already designed an orca one of the strongest water animals and also a whale, which resembles themathically ancient times, because they lived since billions of years
>oh great you already designed a magma dinosaur, that resembles perfectly the time before humans

>>33517118
The visual design is 90% off of a generic base with ACCESSORY details tailored to some deepest lore shit.

Hence why people say that these designs look like shit; shit that a retard like yourself will hungrily lap up because it's also cutesy shit.

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Looking to get black/white 1 and 2, which one's should I buy?
Black 1 and White 2 or Black 1 and Black 2 etc.

>>33517122
>hey man, all these fairy pokemon from gens 3-4 look alike
>lololol but Kyogre is an orca

Nigger are you for real right now?

>>33516859
Competition drove them out, obviously

>>33517118
that one specifically clearly is

>>33516830
They cut gyms only to replace them with shit, you kiss ass.

Honestly /vp/ is fucking silly

Is a fairly active thread about Pokemon that much of an offense that it needs to be moved

>>33516830
>we got rid of gym leaders, npcs with a few pokemon stronger than the other trainers you've faced
>we replace them with captains, NPCs with a few pokemon stronger than the other trainers you've faced

Wow, so innovative.

>>33517138
>mythical pokemon designed to be cute and appealing for girls
>dude why are they all so chibi and cute

>>33517133
look for version difference in pokemon. But I thought white 2 better with the tree and you actually can catch pokemon, when you have friends or hack.
Else I don´t think it´s matter that much. But if you want heracross in team, you can only catch him in black 2

>>33517127
>50% of the space of the design = 10%
I'm not arguing over whether it's a good design, that's subjective as fuck. My point is you're being fucking disingenuous if you say its design comes out of nowhere.

>>33517154
>all these pokemon look alike
>yeah, it's for girls

Nigger, for real?

>>33517098
Okay then anon, what SHOULD a pokemon based off shooting stars and Tanabata look like?

>>33517166
It could start with not looking like 5 other pokemon.

>>33516926
I'm sorry you suck at Pokemon, but complaining about it on /vp/ isn't gonna make you improve

>>33517088
>white and blue
>Shit color scheme
Well fuck.

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>>33517164
>all of them have bigger heads than body
>bigger eyes than normal
>are cleary designed to be cute

If you don´t even know that mythical are known for them beeing cute mons then what should I fucking say to you?

Trubbish is a good Pokemon.

>>33517171
it doesn't unless you're blind

>>33516989
Ghost, Bug, Fairy, Ice, Dark are all good

>>33517098
Where would Japs get the idea to give he design a star theme and paper tags from? Hmmmm

Fucking Burgercucks

>>33517027
The mew duo are felines though

>>33517424
how is mew not a mouse?

thats some fine cherry pickin son

>>33517171
which ones would that be, ones that came out
before or after it?

>>33516840
That's a subjective opinion you fucking moron

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>>33517434
It mews. It refers to the sound a kitten makes, connecting to its size and cat-like appearance.
Mice don't mew. They squeak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqBiyluTVJ4

>>33516857
>You can't say new Pokemon have animal designs

Really? Say that to the new stilt owl, lion, bat, tiger, triggerfish, and many other designs from gen 7. If we want to stretch back into gen 5 when all this shit peaked we can say that there was a deer, a stargazer, a toad, an otter, a snake, a boar, a housecat, three monkeys, a horse, and that's just a few. Gen 6 had a frog, a fox, some birds, a fucking tyrannosaurus rex, a lion, a dog, a panda, a goat, etc. Your argument doesn't hold up.

>>33517027
BEASTS not cats.

I wonder if people will feel the same if generation 1 was introduced years later, there will probably be tons of haters.

>>33516898
>mewtwo and mew are mouses
>calls the legendary beats dogs when they're mostly cat-like
>doesn't like dragons
JUST KILLYOURSELF ALREADY, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.

>>33516958
>making this argument when gen1 had a litteral piece of molten garbage pokemon