http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/usage-based-tier-update-for-september-2017.3614028/
Gardevoir-Mega moved from OU to UU
Jirachi moved from OU to UU
Machamp moved from NU to RU
Banette-Mega moved from UU to RU
Moltres moved from BL3 to RU
Kingdra moved from BL3 to OU
Nihilego moved from OU to UU
Mantine moved from RU to UU
Gallade-Mega moved from OU to UU
Tornadus moved from UU to RU
Hawlucha moved from UU to OU
Ampharos-Mega moved from OU to UU
Latias-Mega moved from OU to UU
Manaphy moved from BL to OU
Heracross-Mega moved from OU to UU
Drapion moved from NU to RU
Abomasnow-Mega moved from UU to RU
Decidueye moved from UU to RU
Meloetta moved from BL3 to RU
Dragonite moved from BL to OU
Absol-Mega moved from UU to RU
Altaria-Mega moved from OU to UU
Ninetales-Alola moved from UU to OU
Quagsire moved from NU to RU
Froslass moved from RU to NU
Smeargle moved from OU to UU
Manectric-Mega moved from OU to UU
Camerupt-Mega moved from UU to RU
Heracross moved from BL2 to UU
Nidoqueen moved from UU to RU
Audino-Mega moved from RU to NU
Hoopa-Unbound moved from OU to UU
Rotom-Wash moved from OU to UU
Tsareena moved from UU to RU
Zygarde-10% moved from UU to RU
Lots of changes this time, discuss.
>>33478875
Hoopa-U and MegaHera were immediately banished to BL
>>33478880
This is true, and Mega Gallade too. Howecer both Gallade and Heracross will be suspect tested to see if they can be allowed in UU.
>UU is just gen6ou
powercreep has gone too far
>Every other tier has to deal with power creep, except UU for some arbitrary reason since they just ban anything that drops from OU into BL hell
This topic is old
Stop making use of every opportunity to start a starter war.
>>33479103
Hey that's not fair.
RU kicked out Zydog and Mega Absol even quicker.
>>33479103
You'll notice most of them are offensive Pokemon. The reason they keep getting banned is because OU hoards all the best walls.
>>33479053
>implying there is anything wrong with an alternate dimension where lando-t and most of the top-tier legendaries were banned from OU
>>33478875
>Mega Gardevoir, Jirachi, Nihilego, Mega Gallade, Mega Latias, Mega Heracross, Mega Altaria, Mega Manectric, Hoopa-Unbound in UU
I cannot wait for Decidueye to be cemented as the NU-MALE owl.
>UU is a special snowflake tier that bans any new threats from OU
>OU won't ban threats to balance like Lando-T or Magearna
>>33478875
>not sorting it in alphabetical order
>carring about smogon niggers and their hugbox
>>33479240
when UU gets a wall capable of stopping shit like conversion-z then maybe some of BL will drop
until that time we're better off not letting uu turn into "hyperoffense: the tier"
some pokemon are to strong for certain tiers, it's why there's a good number of non box-legends in ubers
>>33479245
>caring about the order when the information is the same
>posting in a smogon tiering thread while being an antismogonfag
Keep on apologizing.
>>33479245
It's ordered from best design to worst design
I need a sauce on that pic
>>33478875
>Hawlucha moved from UU to OU
What happened?
>>33479892
Electric Seed meme set
>>33479892
It is paired with Tapu Koko. When Hawlucha enters the field, its Electric Seed is consumed, which gives it +1 Def and +2 Spe just by switching in. Then it uses SD or something else and sweeps from there.
This is its one and only set.
>>33479843
I took it from here I don't have the sauce.
>>33479909
>>33479917
so now I can´t use hawlucha in UU?, eventhough is OU for tapu koko, who can only be used in OU anyways
>>33479917
Why not use any of the other seeds
>>33479972
Yeah, no Hawlucha in UU anymore for now. Though it's not like UU got emptied of offensive pokémons with all the stuff that fell this time.
>>33479979
I don't really know I don't use this set.
>>33479972
Yes, this is literally how Smogon tiers work.
>>33478875
1 | Landorus-Therian | 39.465%
| 2 | Magearna | 24.444%
| 3 | Zygarde | 19.373%
| 4 | Tapu Koko | 19.237%
| 5 | Greninja-Ash | 16.766%
| 6 | Ferrothorn | 15.696%
| 7 | Toxapex | 14.144%
| 8 | Celesteela | 14.077%
| 9 | Heatran | 13.733%
| 10 | Greninja | 13.391%
| 11 | Dugtrio | 13.232%
| 12 | Mew | 12.332%
| 13 | Clefable | 12.254%
| 14 | Tapu Lele | 12.065%
| 15 | Latios | 11.087%
| 16 | Tangrowth | 10.434%
| 17 | Pinsir-Mega | 10.247%
| 18 | Excadrill | 10.241%
| 19 | Zapdos | 9.647%
| 20 | Mimikyu | 9.527%
| 21 | Scizor-Mega | 9.416%
| 22 | Tapu Fini | 9.338%
| 23 | Chansey | 9.122%
| 24 | Skarmory | 8.601%
| 25 | Garchomp | 8.106%
| 26 | Tapu Bulu | 7.761%
| 27 | Keldeo | 7.153%
| 28 | Mawile-Mega | 6.776%
| 29 | Kartana | 6.735%
| 30 | Pelipper | 6.353%
| 31 | Lopunny-Mega | 5.970%
| 32 | Magnezone | 5.856%
| 33 | Bisharp | 5.623%
| 34 | Swampert-Mega | 5.492% |35 | Manaphy | 5.425%
| 36 | Kyurem-Black | 5.289%
| 37 | Hawlucha | 5.128%
| 38 | Tyranitar | 4.928%
| 39 | Diancie-Mega | 4.856%
| 40 | Medicham-Mega | 4.852%
| 41 | Charizard-Mega-Y | 4.831%
| 42 | Marowak-Alola | 4.829%
| 43 | Venusaur-Mega | 4.573%
| 44 | Sableye-Mega | 4.534%
| 45 | Tyranitar-Mega | 4.227%
| 46 | Ninetales-Alola | 4.213%
| 47 | Gengar | 4.170%
| 48 | Kingdra | 4.127%
| 49 | Volcarona | 3.989%
| 50 | Dragonite | 3.971%
| 51 | Charizard-Mega-X | 3.437%
>>33480016
>| 46 | Ninetales-Alola | 4.213%
Is Aurora Veil really that useful?
>>33480025
Looks like it, especially since Ninetales is the only pokémon that can abuse it.
>>33478875
Did Ash get to fuck this?
>>33479149
when its put like that, UU isnt too bad
>>33479731
Is doublethink illegal? If so, most of this thread is going to jail. Not for the dreaded CP, not for doing general illegal shit, but possibly for doublethink...
>>33480016
>Mega Charizard X on the verge of the cutoff
>>33479511
UU Just got Smogon Wash and Staraptor still won't drop
>>33480016
>gengar almost cut off
i feel nothing but bitter hollowness
Stop being Smogon cultist sheep
>>33478875
>Kingdra moved from BL3 to OU
I wish it could rain forever
>>33483031
if rotom-w doesn't get banned I could see a possible staraptor suspect.
>>33483147
>most pokemon in BL are offensive Pokemon and that is why they get banned
>UU gets a wall that isn't MegaBro
>It may get banned
Come the fuck on UU
>>33480025
auto-stopping other weathers and Fairy typing is also very useful
>>33480025
Hyper offense loves dual screens and it helps stop rain abuse too.
>>33483155
>Fairy typing
It doesn't even run moonblast 80% of the time stop talking out your ass
>>33478875
>Tornadus moved from UU to RU
>Hawlucha moved from UU to OU
I understand how this happened.
But this still rustles my jimmies
>>33483171
Types affect pokemon in other ways anon, are oyu by any change underage? for example, Ice being weak to fighting type attacks is now normally affected by them due to fairy resisting fighting types, ice is a really fucked up type with only one resistance (itself)
>>33483283
don't forget that dragon immunity when its stats are pure glass
okay I've been gone awhile
what the fuck is going on with Kingdra? what's with the massive jump to OU
>>33483293
I didn't mentioned it because while it gets immunity to dragon, it also acquires a X4 weakness to steel
>>33483316
Rain is back in style again
>>33483316
Same as always, its new best friend is Mega Swampert now.
>>33479240
Anyone that thinks LandoT should be banned is either bad, or doesn't play the tier.
>>33483092
Now you know how Starmiefags felt in gen6.
>>33485582
you mean toilet bird?
>>33486752
maybe they'll wise up and give starmie regenerator?
I haven't been in meta for roughly a year, why the fuck is Vaporeon in NU?