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PTCG/O General: Shining Hype Edition

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Sent to the Lost Zone >>33453435

New?
>http://i.imgur.com/lcI51Bc.jpg
>https://pastebin.com/XDU1wEnz

TL:DR:
>Complete all Trainer Challenges to get 45 free packs (use Cheat Engine's speedhack to speed up AI games)
>Play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play.
>Farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets.
>Enter tournaments to get TRADABLE chests and packs.
>DON'T OPEN THEM.
>Trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.

What themedeck should I buy?
>Buy the Lunala one.

Resources
>http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/
>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/pokemon-events/championship-series-event-results/
>http://thecharizardlounge.com/decklists/
Looking for specific cards?
>https://pkmncards.com/advanced/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the forums in the trading section. Trading companies overprice cards, aim lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading.
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c1f_CdC_RIlzz_JMfFjBQmfZmgUXjkBlE86EzcJQOI0/edit#gid=1768215359

Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Bots will snatch plain text or uncovered QRs.
>Ask for emails and send em individually.
>Post your pulls or your mom dies in her sleep.

Thread question to test if anyone actually reads the OP and maybe generate some discussion:
>Feature or change to the TCGO client you'd most like to see?
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>>33478125
Sup guys newfag here starting playing the Pokemon TCG mid July, can you give me some tips on deckbuilding (pic related)
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Bring back turning off animations
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>>33478136
Just my onion, but I wouldn't play Timer Ball over Evosoda. I much prefer the guarantee of one over the chance of two when there's also a chance of zero, and in general try to absolutely minimize the reliance on flips, especially in a deck as clunky as Greninja. Acerola also seems an odd choice when you're playing something that has to evolve two or three times all over again, you could just play a Max Potion for healing when you've got energy recovery with Starmie. Might also be worth trying to fit a third Rescue Stretcher in there, or even a Super Rod. With so many frogs more recovery is always nice, and the Super Rod could be handy if you have Staryu or Starmie prized.
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Peeping Red Card – Trainer
Item
Look at your opponent’s hand. You may have your opponent count the number of cards in their hand, shuffle their hand into their deck, and then draw that many cards.
You can play any number of Item cards during your turn.
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>>33478176
Thanks lad I will try Evosoda out and that Max Potion is a good idea
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>>33478184
That's going to be fucking annoying.
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Do you think the removal of Theme tournaments for packs (only for tickets ) is a permanent change to TCGO?
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>>33478497
They rotate costs and rewards every now and then
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>>33478136
Get octillery, Leles , aqua patch(not that necesary) instead of fini and starmie line
Get rid of timer ball, rare candy and wally, get evo soda and aqua ball also you can put some rough seas on this deck not necesary.
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>>33478136
>>33478542
Also Skyla
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>>33478542
>aqua ball
dive ball is out of format if that's what you mean
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>>33478184
So this is what N is getting replaced with once he rotates.
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>>33478556
oh i didnt know that, well but timer ball isnt good, you can try anyother ball then. also need better supports idk why is starmie on that deck or fini.
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>>33478565
Starmie is there for water shuriken presumably.
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>>33478571
well at least he should play 2-2, to pull it out. like 1-1 its to risky.
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>>33478571
This variant should be called Throwing Stars.
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>>33478774
speaking of clever names, I wonder if there's a viable extended deck with Seismitoad , Toxicroak and giratina or something called "Battletoads and Double Dragon"
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>>33478136
Drop the tapu fini, those 2 prizes do matter. drop 2 froakie to increase the gale wings succession rate. drop timer for evosoda, personally timer ball has made me lose too many games which is unacceptable because I only needed 1 heads.

add + 2 max potion, another guzma. otherwise pretty good list.
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Does anyone have a good deck list for Volcanion right now? In Standard or Expanded, I stopped playing back in January when things got hectic with school and I fell out of the loop
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Does anyone knows how much worth is a volcanion ex? i want to make that deck.
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>>33479243
Add a couple of Turtonator GX, consider a single Ho oh GX potentially, use Brooklet Hill, don't use Hoopa. Otherwise it's more or less the same as before, save the usual rotation moves, like ditching Vs Seeker and switching Lysandre for Guzma.
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>>33479412
there like 1 pack each. everything in that deck is cheap, except tapu lele GX
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>>33479243
>>33479412
This is the version I run, should give you a good idea of what you need to look at/for. As always, price guides are in the OP. Try to buy for less than that.
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Why are my packs not showing up when making a trade? Yes, they are tradable packs and Ive had no problem for ages.
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>>33479520
Game sucks then guys want 2-3 pack for a volcanion ex lol,
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>>33479586
I've been getting this weird glitch recently where most of my tradable cards won't show up when I load into the game. My collection doesn't load completely either. Just try quitting out and logging in again, usually fixes it for me. I assumed it was just because I have a shit connection but maybe there's something more to it.
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>>33479625
Those people are flipping to get more packs. As a general rule, NEVER buy from public trade unless you are desperate. Just list your own trade for a GRI. It's not too hard to pick up Volcanion EX for a single pack right now, he's valued somewhere between 1.5 and 2 packs.
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>>33479643
And also can you give the worth value of ho oh and turtonator? gx
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>>33479708
I can suggest you stop being fucking lazy and read the OP. There's at least 2 different links there that will list in-game prices.
They're all around the same range, Ho-oh is closer to 3 packs though.
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Hey guys, Im looking for some feedback for my deck, I want to keep it standard legal
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>>33479749
see >>33479572
Drop the Hoopa for a Turtonator GX, Hoopa only grabs EXs and the Brooklet Hills already grab your Volcs. I'd also recommend dropping one Octillery line to replace with a couple Tapu Lele GX.
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>>33479789
Thanks, I only need the Tapu Memes now!
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>>33478184
This is a good nerf to N, hoping an actual N clone doesn't pop out.
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>>33478184
oh boy and the counter to this is going to be item lock again.


Mmm a cycle of shit.
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>>33480054
>item lock becomes hot shit again
>Decaying Wasteland comes out
>potential for a DDE reprint
>my boy Noivern becomes a top pick
Can't wait for that to never ever happen ;_;
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>>33479749
>>33479572
i just based my deck on yours guys so rate my deck give me some tips ij uts made this bout 5 min ago with booster pack trades.
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>>33480337
Also rate my ninetales deck give me tips.
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>>33480337
Four UB, and Burning Energy is only good for Turtonator.
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>>33480337
>>33480427
What this guy said and you should switch the Staryu you are using for the BKP version, it has no retreat cost.

>>33480348
>basically my deck/10
Get a Manaphy EX, it's a little bit fragile but it turns your water energies into Float Stones.
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>>33480901
>tfw when I like to run Ninja Boy
>tfw I finish a match and it is suddenly banned
>tfw I now have to temporarily stop playing 3 decks because TPCi can't keep their shit together
I understand this happens sometimes but god damn.
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>>33480929
Remember when Volc was broken? Probably the biggest offender.
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>>33481534
Do you mean Volcarona or Volcanion?
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I don't quite get the pikachu pack meme

am I doing this right?
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>>33479451

>Ho-oh GX

didn't a renowned japanese player get 9th at Worlds with Volcanion/Ho-oh? That 180 is nothing to fuck with if you can get the T1 Kiwawe.
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>>33482668
Sort of. You could probably get at least 2 for one pack, if not more.
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All my decks that had ninja boy are gone.
Not labelled as banned, just completely missing.
Is that supposed to happen?
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>>33480195

>Noivern GX
>a threat

not with that typing. I know it hurts. This is just payback for Seismetoad EX

>item lock coming back

Vileplume isn't going to be it. I think Noivern might be our only attacking item lock for a while.
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>>33480901

>Ninja Boy banned

they better fix this shit by Crimson Invasion. My Regi toolbox runs it.
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Are Roaring Skies or Primal Clash still standard? If so I have some TCGO packs I can give out.
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>>33482853
Thanks.
And no, they rotated out.
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>>33482853
They're still good for expanded if nothing else. Might as well drop them if you aren't going to use them.
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>>33482902
>>33482910
Hey, as long as you guys will use them. Make sure to share now.
I wish the game didn't fuck up on me back when I played it like 3 years ago or I would be doing these...
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>>33482940
The last char on left middle is J
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>>33482954
pulled this

thanks
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>>33482940
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>>33482940
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>>33482999
>>33483127
>>33482973
glad to help
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Heh!
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>>33484267
I adore Megumi Mizutani's artstyle.
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>>33484267
FA mommy~
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>>33484267
i'm in love
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>>33484267
I want to hug her
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Sea of Emptiness – Trainer
Stadium
Each player’s Pokemon that has any Special Conditions retains those Special Conditions after evolving or devolving.
This card stays in play when you play it. Discard this card if another Stadium card comes into play. If another card with the same name is in play, you can’t play this card.
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>>33484615

Well its an interesting effect, thats for sure
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>>33484267
Damn I want to be cuddled by her
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>>33484615
It's interesting but I don't see use aside maybe in status heavy decks just for the sake of having a stadium so they can remove the opponent's
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>>33484615
muk/salazzle and variants would love this
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>>33478125
Who's willing to bet the english shining legends print quality sucks ass?
I've been interested in card grading, and on the PSA website japanese gem mint 10s vastly outnumber english ones.
Just imagine spending all that money on that Ho-Oh and its fucked.
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>>33484267

>Lusamine
>smiling

DELETE THIS hopefully they make another Supporter for her like they did with Lysandre with her in UB formand I hope it is just as broken
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>>33484615

If Guzma didn't exist this would be absolutely broken. Too bad ya boi is still here.
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>>33484267
>FA Stick
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>>33486038
Amuk/toxic spikes 'pex to poison on switch maybe? Or does that ability not work on guzma'd mons
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>>33486295
Only triggers on a manual retreat, not any kind of switch.
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>>33486308
and there's no supporter lock in standard as of now is there?
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>>33486346
Sableye GUR. Still probably better in Expanded overall, especially since Exeggutor is an alternative for Supporter lock that also deals damage.
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>>33486424
Expanded also has the Boundaries Crossed Stoutland, which is a source of Ability-based Supporter locking.
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>>33487105

>stage 2

clunk city
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>>33479625
Create your own trades then. This is rule #1 of public trading, make trades on your own terms no haggling no negotiation. All the good offers get sniped within 10 minutes, thats why shit offers are cluttering the trade section. Also volcanion ex DOES sell for 2-3 packs, BUT you can buy for 1 each (promo ex or reg ex). They are making profit with each trade, which is called flipping.

>>33479586
exit the game and relogin. known server issue on their side.

>>33479708
last week when I checked ho-oh reg is 1 gri and turt fa is 1 gri.

>>33482668
1 pika pack = 1 rare like talonflame/typholosion/garb/mew etc. 1 pika pack = 2 field blower, AND 2 some other trainer you need from a recent set. if you ask for too much the trade will fail. offers are never 100% accurate btw, just keep testing.
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pretty new to the game, want to make a greninja deck. Why do I often see talonflame on these decks but in no other archetype? It seems like a splashable effect. Could I replace it with something else like leles?
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>>33487407
Its because Greninja run so little starter basic pokemon, that talonflame maximizes the value it has.
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>>33487407
It can good in budget friendly decks, and ones built around single prize Pokemon that require a lot of setup, like Greninja. Typhlosion is another example of a deck where it works well. In other decks, you're generally better off running Lele, or another setup Pokemon like Alolan Vulpix that won't be dead weight if you don't have it in your starting hand like Talonflame. Personally, I don't like Talonflame in decks that are trying to be competitive, it's too much of a liability being almost a tenth of your entire deck and potentially being nothing more than four dead cards. Just look at Cody Walinski at Worlds last year. For Greninja in particular, I'd choose to use Brooklet Hill and Evosodas and maybe Timer Balls over Talonflame.
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Why are people not buying Leles for 30 GUR? Bought a bunch of them for 25 in order to flip them into 30, but I've put up the trade like 3 times already and no one bited
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>>33487811
why would they buy for 30 when there's like 99 other ones going for 28 or under
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>>33487811
the market evolves. Look at the trades, plenty of twits selling for 28 GRI. you can try selling for 32 Burning Shadows, IF you know how to flip BUS since less and less people are valuing them at 1:1 ratio
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HOLY FLIPPING MAC N CHEESE MOTHER DUCK
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>>33487407
Same reason it's in typhlosion.
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>>33487469
It's 1/15 of your deck.

That said, for my typhlosion deck I found it was worth it swap two talonflame out for a nest and heavy ball.

Maybe I should just be mulliganning more, but starting with a talon and no cynd is formula for loss, it's attack doesn't fix that.

I need a cyndaquil on my bench by the end of turn 1, and a typhlosion and a rare candy in my hand by turn 2.
Additional balls increase odds of having them by then.
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>tech 1-1 water bubble Araquanid into my waterbox
>vs Typhlosion
>as soon as I drop the spider he commits seppuku by Acerola'ing his only mon
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Just started playing. Friend who plays physical gave me a bunch of his codes. Opened up a few and tried to build something. Is this a good start to a half decent deck?
I have about 60 Guardians Rising because I was told not to open them. What are my priorities for trades?
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Got a question for anyone who might know.

I am kind of tired of PTCGO and would like to sell my account. My collection contains basically FAs of every current meta standard card in a playset, including trainers. 4 FA gard, 4 FA Ns, 4 FA ect. Or at the least the optimal number to have like 1 FA Bridget. The collection also has a playset of all viable standard cards like baby Golisopod, promo KoKo, ect.

What would be the best way to sell my collection? Also what would be the best way to price the entire thing? I was thinking on doing a bunch of math comparing the 40 cent card code price to the total number of packs my collection is worth then lowering the price of that number 40% or so to get a sell.

Any ideas or suggestions?
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>>33488350
What weirdo runs acerola in typhlosion? You only have like 5 chances to evo max, closer to 2 since you'll definitely lose 1-2 candies to discard and quilava is generally too slow
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>>33488418
get 2-3 leles with those packs
they'll allow you to build pretty much any deck
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>>33488418
First don't open packs if you don't even have a playable deck. 2nd, focus on what kind of deck you want to make. Psychic? espeon/garb. Grass? Tapu bulu GX or Golisopod GX. Fire? Volcanion ex with some/any combination of baby volcanion/turtonator GX/ Ho-oh gx/Salazzle GX.
Now volcanion ex is 1 Guardians for the promo or regular art. Make your own public trade, then play the waiting game. when you make trades do small offers, like 1 guardians for 1 volcanion ex. if you do 3 guardians for 3 volcanion your chances of success go down severely since many players have 1 volcanion, but many dont have more than 1. Now you will see many decks use Tapu Lele GX, this card is expensive, you can pick it up for 25 Guardians Rising occasionally. The focus of 4 ultra ball, 2 Tapu lele and 2 Kiawe is to charge up your fire pokemon turn 1, then start sweeping on your next turn. The volcanion deck doesnt need tapu lele if you want to play budget, but eventually you want to get 2 at least for all other decks.

You can also use pikachu packs in the game shop which are 55 tokens, trade them for trainers like. 1 pika for 2 N.1 pika for 2 choice band. 1 pika for 2 fury belt. trade for the newest sets, non foil versions. Other than that you are off to a solid start, you can get tapu lele gx and build most standard decks.
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>>33488506
>>33488511
Thanks for the help guys. I'll pick up those lele's asap and work my way up from there.
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Why the hell is Burning Shadows so shit? I've opened so much of it and the payoff is fucking shit.
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>>33488426
You are at mercy of the buyer. best thing would be to sell in person to a close friend. You can get more value, and not worry about the buyer trying to rat you out. Next would be to convert all your cards into packs like Guardians Rising. Serious buyers just want packs and packs are the easiest way to get rid of shit. Then try to sell the packs. Again value is at the mercy of the buyer. Always the risk of getting insta-banned too.

I know for a fact the bots in the game use proxies and VPNs and are also pack sellers, since I have been solicited by them and friends said the same thing. Pack sellers always get caught. So while small chunk sales seem profitable, each transaction makes it easier to ban you. Overall I say keep your account you might want to play a game or 2 in a couple years.
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>>33488511
You can't trade Pika Packs at the beginning you need to be level 15 I think.
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>>33488855
Well I guess what would be optimal would be to sell it on creigs list then to someone who actually wants to play immediately and not have to build a collection. Do it in an open place and get the buyers info before hand and if they seem like a douche not sell it to them.
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>>33488855
It shouldn't be too hard, we live near the largest game shop in my state so there has to be people to buy.

Now the only issue would be coming up with a price.
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>>33488847
All of the value is in Gardevoir and FA Supporters. You should really be trading them instead of opening them, at least until their value bottoms out.
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>>33489020
In real life though. But the same has happened on PTCGO.
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>>33488847
Individual boosters have shit pulls. Promo blisters and collection boxes have way better pulls in my experience. Or just get a booster box
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Why is trading Pika packs so hard? I get that it works, but sometimes it takes forever just for somebody to do the trade.
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>>33489198
I have which the problem, 75% my packs come from a sealed Booster box OR a whole box; but the payoff is still shit.
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Sorry if the codes are too old. Got them from a random blister earlier, and I don't stop in this general a lot
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>>33484615
So, this seems to be the Ultra Space we visit in Sun & Moon but they don't call it Ultra Space in this card. Maybe that theory is true and there's a different Ultra Space for each Ultra Beast.
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>>33487407
Check this link out:
>https://sixprizes.com/2014/11/12/stats-on-starts-hypergeometric-distribution-and-the-pokemon-tcg/
and
>https://sixprizes.com/2013/01/13/themathtcg-the-probabilities-behind-the-opening-hand/
and
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qEpLS7HleRsHqCSMYQoFdmuklYMNtei5jYwR9BiM-ZE/edit#gid=695503238

In short its all about percentages. The more basics you run the less chances you will start talonflame. If you dont start talonflame, that is potentially 4 deadcards that you cant do anything with except discard. Those could be more consistency cards like supporters.
In the Greninja Deck, Talonflame has 130 HP so its a big body giving you an extra turn or 2 versus 1 babby froakie with its 60 hp. With choice band it swings for 70 and searches any 2 cards. It has free retreat so you can evolve into frogadier and then duplicate immediately. Greninja is a very slow set up deck. Ideally you focus on Frogadier to bench your other 3 frogadier so you dont need 4 froakie. The deck also doesnt want 2 prize liabilities because it is so damn slow, and once set up most decks cant keep up if you take multiple GXs/EXs with water shuriken spam. So you run 2-3 froakie, and maybe 1 starmie line. But you dont want to mulligan forever too. Giving your opponent free cards is going to fuck you over, especially if they are playing garbotoxin you give them more draws to set up perfectly. But you dont want to play shitty basics that dont help your deck or eat up too much bench space. Even worse imagine starting with shaymin ex or tapue lele gx, you wont get the effect and its a 2 prize liability while setting up. Talonflame attempts to solve this issue. It only gives 1 prize. You have about 40% chance of opening talonflame if you play 4, this is not counting mulligans.and you play maybe 4 other basic starters in greninja so its a good fit. Typholosion is another deck that can use talonflame as well.
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>>33489299
dang, already grabbed.

>>33489264
Are you trading packs for cards to flip or cards for decks?

If cards to flip, try diversifying. Don't just do 1 card, instead of like, 3 garbodor, do 1 garb, 1 talonflame, 1 mew.
If you need them for a deck, you might be asking too many copies per pack.
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>>33488865
Yes you can, what are you talking about?
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>>33489264
Most trades get accepted within the final hour in my experience. That is the prime advertisement spot you want to be in. Next, there could be 1000 other players making the same exact trade you are at this moment. What edge do you have versus them in that scenario? Especially the spammers who make so many trades they have more chance of being accepted than your trade. This why you want to diversify your flips and token usage and generally find something that works for you even if its a small flip to keep it relatively unknown. I help with advice on flips but revealing my best flips is a not going to happen. So you have to evolve, what decks are topping? What cards they use? This is hard because if you just follow the trend you are early and make nice profit but eventually every other players will catch on quickly like dark patch/trevenant market. Pika packs shouldnt be your sole flipping tactic, once you get packs start flipping octillery abyssal hand. buy for 1 or 2 sell for 3-4. its a heavy market but it works for me.

Now as >>33489492 mentioned you might be asking for too much in value or too many cards. Unless you tell us what the specific trade is we can only guess and not accurately help you.

Finally some days are fucking slow, weekends are the best time to spend your tokens and time trading as thats when all the kids who dont know shit about value accept trades. I dont have any 100% accurate trades unless I am losing value, your offers will take a while or even fail. either way you should be putting up enough trade offers that you make steady packs.


>>33489557
Thanks, Im level 30 so i cannot verify to see if it recently changed.
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Are Team Skull Grunts good flip material? I've been sitting on a few extras and I need more packs for some trade bait.
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>>33489810
Full Arts? Maybe if you buy for one and sell for 2, but I dunno. I wouldn't try flipping 4 regulars into a pack though.
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>>33489829

Yeah, that's what I'm going for.
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So what are the big pulls going to be from Shining Legends? And will they even be worth much?
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>packs still not showing up to trade
Ahhhhh
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>>33489612
You were always able to trade pika packs?
The level thing is daily quest boosters being tradable.

Also, octillery trades never really worked for me once it became common knowledge in the general.
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>>33489810
If you want to try an advanced flip do this: buy metagross gx reg for 2 packs or metagross gx fa for 3 packs.Next for 1 pika pack pick up 20 beldums. then 1 pika for 20 metang. finally 1 pika for 20 alolan vulpix. all non foil versions.

Next trade 4 metagross gx Reg art - 4 metang - 4 beldum - 2 vulpix for: 1 Gard FA GX OR Reg, sell Gard for 13 GRI ~5 pack profit . Or make a gard gx deck.

If you have 4 metagross gx FA lines, try to trade for Guzma FA like this: 4 Metagross lines + 2 vulpix, 1 necrozma reg (buy for 2 packs). looking at about 6-8 profit depending how cheap you can pick up metagross FA and how high guzma can be sold since guzma is selling like shit right now, about 22 on average.


Now you can trade even further if you got Gard GX: 3 Gard GX reg, 1 gallade from breakthrough(1 pika or 1 chest) 3 kirlia, 4 ralts, 2 vulpix: ask for 1 Tapu Lele GX FA sell for 30+ GRI. 6 Pack profit with metagross reg line > Gard GX reg line > Tapu lele GX FA.

With 3 Gard GX FA lines you can possibly get Hyper Rare Lele GX try to sell for 45 but those sell like shit to be honest.

If you ask for older cards (dark rai FA dex, Plasma Freeze MaxPotion etc) these kind of offers fail. Reason why this works is people are pulling gards gx or metagross or tapu lele gx like crazy. but they dont have the patience to build a deck around it, OR flip into something bigger. Likewise trading deck cores of any pokemon deck can get you some amazing trade results, not much more to be said for this its the wild west in terms of what can or wont work, i barely scratched the surface of its potential. Why trade upward like this if packs are better?
example trading 2 packs for 1 metagross gx is common, but its tough trying to sell for 4 packs because everyone is doing the same exact shit. instead doing a metagross gx core you can get higher value cards, then sell that higher value card undercutting everyone at profit or trade up even higher into tapu lele gx or something.
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>>33490013
Immediately good card: Raichu-GX

Post next rotation: Shining Jirachi

Paper only (collectfags): FA Mewtwo-GX

Good normal rares: Venusaur, Marshadow, Raikou, Hoopa

It's honestly a pretty meh set from a competitive play perspective. Warp Energy and Raichu-GX are the two major cards, Venusaur will have some niche usage but won't be truly good with FOGP being banned.
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>>33490431
Forgot Shining Mew, sadly Shining Celebi is pulled out of the English set to make a promo.
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>mfw beginner and trying to win with the electric deck against the CPU

Why is this deck so bad? Half of the time I get screwed without enough mana draws. I like the blue deck though.
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>>33490459
the fire deck is the worst of the three and the blue is the best. Your wincon in the lightning deck is to get a Raichu and a full bench.
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>>33490459
The Electric deck is the best out of the three, IMO. The Raichu, Zapdos, and Kangaskhans are good if you can power them up, as is Fearow. You're going to have games where the shuffling fucks you, it's just how PTCGO plays. If you don't think you can win a match in the Trainer Challenge, just concede and try again.
A lot of my challenges were won by getting amazing opening hands while my opponent got nothing.
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>>33490459
You're probably still missing half your core, unlock the rest of the deck.
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>>33490483
>>33490502
>>33490508
Also if I'm an eeveefag what's the best deck or do they suck like in gen 7? Fuck I wish it was Gen 4 again
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>>33490700
espeon gx is a strong deck, pretty cheap other than tapu lele gx
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>>33489299
That's really nice handwriting.
I am very jealous.
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>>33489299
>>33490721
LONDON
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>>33490733
LONDON
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O
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>>33490700
The eevees are all pretty decent atm, even Flareon is playable with Kiawe.
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All I ask is you post your pulls.

good luck!

-some fuck who should have spent money on evacuating Florida and bought this shit.
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>>33490896
took the burning shadows
thanks
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>>33490896
I took the lunala tin
thanks!
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>>33490896
ty
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>>33490896
Got 2 SM and a breakthrough plus a promo cosmog+coin. Will post in a sec though i may consider trading the SM packs
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>>33491034
meh I did them, nothing special but thanks. breakthrough gengar is neat though and i saw it used in a deck that was decent once
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>>33491034
>may consider trading
OPEN YOUR PACKS AND POST THEM FAGGOT.
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>>33491062
whoops wrong screenshot
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>>33491064
and here's the first SM pack. Forgot the screencap the second, but it had a holo Gigalith as its rare
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>>33490896
Man, I would have really liked to get one):
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Who the fuck bought out the dowsing machine market? I know it was one of you fuckers in here. It sells for 10 GRI easily right now.

Also for anyone who hasnt realized it yet, my BUS : GRI 1:1 offers have been failing too much, nows the time to stop picking up BUS at 1:1 value, and get rid of them since everyone will do the same. I suspect it will be 0.9 BUS: 1GRI ratio, but still worth considering for flipping purposes so you arent stuck with hundreds of BUS and trades not being in your favor. Like if you have Tapu lele GX dont sell for BUS, and if you are buying Tapu use those BUS.
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>>33491649
A lot of the market is dead right now, it's not just you. I'm stuck with all sorts of stock that's just collecting dust because no one wants to buy it. Release hype has faded and a lot of people already have their cards.
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>>33491679
ive been trading night march 4-4-4 lines for like 8 GRI packs earlier this morning. only paid like 1.5 for the whole line with my trash .5 packs. It depends on the time when trades can be more lucrative, but most my small flips have been strong. talonflame and typholosion has been good too. For those I trade for BUS and then pick up whatever is being hyped. Like dowsing machine at this moment buy for 5 BUS sell for 10 GRI and tapu koko promos 30 and 31(probably because of golisopod gx), pick up for 4-5 BUS sell for 6 GRI.
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>>33491649
Anyone remember when little dark fury bought 100s of charizard boxes with gems and crashed the charizard costume market? Those ace spec cards are relatively rare, not surprised they are being cleaned out even if they are 1-ofs.
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Alolan Golem-GX – Lightning – HP250
Stage 2 – Evolves from Alolan Graveler
[L][C][C] Hammer In: 80 damage.
[L][L][C][C] Super Magnetic Tackle: 200 damage. This Pokemon does 50 damage to itself.
[L][L][C][C] Heavy Rock GX: 100 damage. Effect unreadable, but does something to your opponent during their next turn.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Metal (-20)
Retreat: 4
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Gyarados-GX – Water – HP240
Stage 1 – Evolves from Magikarp
[W][C][C] Waterfall: 70 damage.
[W][C][C][C][C] Dragon Calamity: 100+ damage. This attack does 100 more damage if there is a Stadium in play. Then, discard that Stadium.
[W] Dread Storm GX: Effect unreadable.
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 4
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>>33492486
Despite the retarded cost for Dragon Calamity I think it can do decent in a proper deck, between aqua patch and the fact you only need one water, hell maybe it can see use in some weird Vikavolt deck
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>>33492484
[L][L][C][C] Heavy Rock GX: 100 damage. Your opponent can’t play any Supporter cards from their hand during their next turn. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack in a game.)
>>33492486
[W] Dread Storm GX: Discard 1 Energy from each of your opponent’s Pokemon. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack in a game.)
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>>33492509
>Despite the retarded cost for Dragon Calamity...

It's easily filled with a single Water and two DCE, but that just makes you Hammer bait.
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>>33492564
>>33492486
>>33492484
Golem continues to underwhelm. Gyarados coukd be good though, 240HP stage 1 with a good weakness. One shots Garde. Good luck getting it set up without getting destroyed first though, unless you've got some hefty energy acceleration like Vikavolt, but then running three different energies is clunk city.
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how much do mews go for?
I want to build the passimian budget to have something for standard

i'm just starting out, less than two weeks playing
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>>33492603
You could go crazy and go for a water/fire deck and pump Gyara in one turn with Kiawe. It's not that hard to do so actually.
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>>33492638
Salazzle could be nice, babby makes Gyara go nuts even if for some reason you can't find a band.
Then you late sweep with Salazzle GX.
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>only play online
>order deck online
>buy coin from booster pack at mall (already have dice and tokens from ebay)
>pull a reverse garbodor
>go to play in store for first time
>guy i'm playing against says "dude use dice for your coinflips"
>tell him that online there is a coin and they wouldn't sell coins if they weren't allowed
>guy on opposite end of room yells "dice are for nerds"
How is your group, /vp/? I like the group at my store.
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>>33492750
I have butter hands and I suck at throwing coins
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>>33492750
guy i'm playing against says "dude use dice for your coinflips"
>tell him that online there is a coin and they wouldn't sell coins if they weren't allowed
He technically has a point, the coins have a bad tendency of landing tails due to weight issues. Dice don't have that and tournament have rules that prevent more shady players from cheating with dice.
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>>33492486
>Gyarados GX with Dumbbells has 280 HP
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>>33492909
Everyone will run it with choice band anyway because
>muh gardevoir
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Counter Catcher – Trainer
Item
You can only play this card if you have more Prize cards remaining than your opponent.
Choose 1 of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon and switch it with their Active Pokemon.
You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).

Between this, counter energy, potentially other similar cards on future, lots of favor for being down in the prize trade.
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>>33493006
Whoops forgot picture.
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>>33492484
garbage sadly

>>33492486
the new primal groudon,will be hard to play consistently in standard though.
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>Started playing the TCG late June
>Greninja Break doing pretty good
>New rotation
>Greninja Break is probably the most nerfed deck

Should I keep playing Greninja or just try to trade them away and build another Budget beginner deck. Any recommendations?
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>>33493237
greninja is still okay
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>>33493237
It could be worse, rainbow force is pretty much dead after rotation.
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>>33492484
>>33492564
>>33492603
>[L][L][C][C] Heavy Rock GX: 100 damage. Your opponent can’t play any cards from their hand during their next turn. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack in a game.)
Fix'd
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>>33493383
Oh, that's much better. Basically set them back an entire turn. Still not sold on it, maybe in Expanded with Protection Cube, but then you're competing with the speedy shitfest that is the Expanded meta.
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>>33493006

>bench sitter decks on notice

WELP
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>>33478125

so now that the dust has settled what looks like it is worth investing out of Crimson Invasion?
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>>33492750

I personally just use dice because it is faster and less clunky but my opinion on coins is that there isn't a perfect coin. The tcg ones are sliiiiiiiighty weighted on the tails side and actual currency is even more of a no-no. I know this sounds like autism because it is but randomness isn't exclusive to ptcg but you're making a mountain out of a diglett hill. If even the Pokemon TCG products are aware of this issue by including a rounded edge translucent die in their elite trainer boxes(that GX counter is nice too) then it must have been enough of a demand.
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>>33492750
>tfw no local game store, would have to drive 1 hour to find one
>tfw school's tabletop and card club only plays MTG

I want to play local so bad but it seems unlikely. Guess I have to stick to online.
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>>33493006
This counter shit will be insane in a Salazzle Gx deck. Use it to rush out your early kills then use salazzle for the rest after youve taken 3 prizes
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>>33493755
if you are NOT planning building new decks in post CI

4x Counter Energy
4x Counter Catcher
4x Lusamine
2x Gladion
2-3 Kartana GX
2x Nihelgo GX

anything else depends on what deck you making like with the Regis or Gyarados GX. Everything else looks like shit. Sorry Buzzwole. Then again our english set might have "Best of" set stuff in it.
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>>33494089

keep in mind you can't use counter energy on GX/EX bois. You still need to invest two fire for sinister claw and they can just as easily catch up your shit for the knockout.
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>>33492750
Mine sucks balls, despite being a registered league they dont give a shit about pokemon and everyone there only plays YGO/Magic. So I stopped going. They'e going to have a SM4 prerelease though.
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>>33494399

if they still do prereleases they still care. Stores just don't buy those fucking kits just to waste money. I just don't like going to league because of the feeling of being the only 20 something in a room with literal children. Yeah some of them play meta decks but still.
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>>33494996
I forgot to mention its going to be their first pokemon prerelease. They also have a pokemon tcg group on facebook with over 100+ members that no one posts in. It's just a bit frustrating.
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>>33492750
Dice are far easier than flipping coins. The only problem is explaining it repeatedly to new players.

I've seen loads of people who legitimately have no idea how to flip a coin, but insist on doing so. They just throw it a few centimetres into the air...
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>>33494996
>being the only 20 something in a room with literal children.
Become a mentor figure.
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>>33494094
any word on whether counter energy can share a deck with DCE? Can my passimian deck look forward to better mana draw?
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>>33494996
>I just don't like going to league because of the feeling of being the only 20 something in a room with literal children.

That's not my problem mine is showing up with a deck that I invested 200 dollars (Garde GX w/ 2 Leles) in a deck only to be facing kids with glorified structure decks. I feel bad having to think about throwing matches to kids or worse being an accidental bully by outright 6-0ing them. It's not fun and I try to give advice but you know how kids are. The only Junior/Senior players that I ever see are any good are either ones with pokeparents/former judges that KNOW how the game works or careless ones with disposable incomes that just copy youtube builds.
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>>33495313

>become a mentor

former Professor here. I still got my shirt and some of my judge swag as proof but basically it came down to real life getting in the way.
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>>33495331
The name of Counter Energy isn't "Double Colorless Energy", and they do different things, so there's absolutely no reason why you wouldn't be able to run 4x of both if you wanted to.
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>>33495356
I mean, it literally acts as a DCE unless you're low on prizes in which case it's an objectively better one.

And Juniper and Sycamore had that clause.
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>>33495331

any deck that typically only runs 4 DCE that doesn't use GX/EXs as attackers can EASILY run Counter Energy. So Passimian Mew is going to get a bit better. Hell with Counter Catcher you can now more easily sucker in free Lele GX KOs with a full bench and choice band.
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>>33495387
Counter Energy only provides 1 Colorless Energy if its conditions aren't met.
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>>33495422
that is a very different translation than the one I originally saw.

Dang, I am now much less hype.
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>>33495387
Professor Juniper and Professor Sycamore have identical descriptions, Counter Energy and Double Colorless Energy don't. Even if Counter Energy were to provide 2 Colorless Energy when you weren't behind on prizes (and 2 of any if you were), there would still not be any conflict with Double Colorless Energy because they still don't do exactly the same thing.
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Just spent all my packs on Leles. Working on trading up for Guzmas. How am I doing?
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>>33495527
guzma full arts? guzma regulars are 2 for 1 pika pack
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>>33495533
Oh for real? What else do I need to be getting then?
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>>33495540
maybe some energy retrievals? There's a reason turtonator is seen with babyVolc.
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>>33495527

Energy Retrival and BabyVolcanion like above anon said.
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Too bad we can't see much other than that we will get colorless Celesteela and Grass Pheromosa and ofc the Lightning Xurkitree, wish we could see the attacks.
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>>33495875
or metal actually, not entirely sure.
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>>33495875
I know right? Xurkitree also has a Ability so that's also something I want to see.
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>>33495875
Celesteela is definitely metal.
From the looks of it Celesteela has a 4 energy attack and Xurkitree has one that's 2 lightning one colorless.
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>>33495875
>>33495939
Update: Celesteela is weak to Electric, so there's a high chance its colorless.
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>>33492486
>mfw they didn't make a alolan Gyarados
:^(
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>>33493006
This card is nuts
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I know that you guys say buy the lunala deck for the game if you're new but is it true for paper also?
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>>33496143
Nope, I'd say to play a draft irl and build whatever deck around the rarest cards you got, if you got any. But that's my personal way to get into a new TCG.
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>>33496143
lolno
The reason the Lunala deck is recommended is because it's good for completing the Trainer Challenges and for Theme VS ladder. Outside PTCGO it's pretty much worthless. All of the theme decks are. Instead, spend your money buying staples for a deck that you like or build a collection and go from there.
I want Lunala to be good but there needs to be better psychic acceleration for it to ever happen. Mental Patch when?
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>>33496187
Best i can think of would be lunala GX and energy absorption mewtwo ex
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>>33496286
I've already tried it, it's incredibly clunky. Mewtwo doesn't do enough damage per energy to really justify his costs and baby Lunala is hard to get out reliably when you also need a Lunala GX on your bench. Since it -has- to be psychic energies you can't really run DCE and Max Elixirs only do so much. It's just missing that last little push to actually be decent and any form of psychic acceleration, whether it be a patch or something to put them from your deck onto your pokemon, would be what it needs to actually be acceptable.
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what thoughts on pairing Noivern-GX with Trevenant Break? No DDE any more hurts of course, but other than that, they seem like good partners in crime with shared spread attacks and item denial/hit for items.
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>>33496150
>>33496187
Ok i bought the "elite" rising trainer box instead

Please clap
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am I doing this right?
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>>33496502
seems like it.
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>>33496482
Are any of these foils good?
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I've become seriously unmotivated to play this game. I don't know what it is. Trying to keep up with the meta and having to buy Leles is probably most of it. Depression? I don't know.

Anyway, is Volcanion still good? I have a Turtonator. I think I have enough for a Metagross deck. I just want a deck of heavy hitters I can switch out at a moment's notice.
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>>33496748

Volcanion is still good. A turn one Kiawe to any big hitter can put serious pressure on your opponent and can take some easy prizes. A single Volcanion-EX lets Ho-Oh-GX swing for 210, which is perfect for taking out Alolan Ninetales-GX, other Ho-Oh, etc.
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>>33496744
Dhelmise is a good tech in metal decks
Field Blower is a staple card
3 reverse rares and 2 GXs are good pulls considering its an ETB.
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>>33496984
Also one of my favorite pokemon is Ninetales so I bought the theme deck, I heard the GX one is good should I build it into that.
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>>33496748
Trust me anon I know that feel. Rotations are harsh, especially when cards you like rotate out and you have to find something new to play. Volcanion is great though, the deck has only gained more toys in recent sets. Probably one of my favorite decks to play right now.
>>33497028
Alolan Ninetails is a pretty good deck, I somehow managed to pull 3 from my Trainer Challenge packs on PTCGO so I built it on there and it does great on VS ladder.
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BRING BACK DUAL TYPING
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Xurkitree has an ability, single L GX attack, and it looks like its main attack is LLC

Pheromosa has 2 attacks, for G and GG, GX attack looks like it's GG too.
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>>33484267
These shiny full art qt girls are gonna be expensive in 10 years.
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Rate my deck please, sometimes I have so many waters/fire on the bench and Volcanion is just there. Also, I think I need a second attacker
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>>33497400
Drop keldeo and volcanion for shaymin and sudowoodo if you have it
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Anyone gonna use 885 coins on some Hoenn Promos?
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>>33492486
I was so fucking sure we would get a Milotic-GX instead (since it's one of the Pokémon Lusamine uses in the game) but no, it had to be fucking Gyarados again.
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Alolan Golem actually seems decent with Electrode and Counter Catcher. You can power one up in a single turn, lock with the GX attack, preferably using catcher to kill something on the bench, then kill with its 200 damage attack, then Acerola the Golem, use the same Electrode and DCE you picked up on a new one, and keep swinging.

Gyarados memeing with Shining Celebi and Flail sounds fun too.
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>>33496502
yup. make another offer for the reverse foil version, this increases your chances to get a mew for the day.

>>33496748
I fucking love greninja break, sure it can break hard but it rapes most decks once set up.
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Im getting bored of fairy/gardevoir decks everywhere, any good metal decks?
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>>33497605
Just the Metagross-GX, Metagross/Necrozma and the bad meme of Metagross/Solgaleo.
In expanded you can try Solgaleo/Bronzong.
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>>33497605
>>33497605
not yet, but CI looks like it's going to introduce some interesting ones. Both Aggron with Po Town and Registeel with Choice Band can OHKO Gardevoir.
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>>33497663
don't forget excadrill/dhelmise, it's actually quite good with all of the night march niggers running around in expanded.
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Why the fuck is Alolan Ninetales BUS so broken? It literally has little to no counters.
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>>33497605
Found the douchebag.
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>>33497707
>little to no counters
>countered by pretty much anything that isn't an EX or GX
>not running at least 1-2 baby attackers in 2017
I think I've found your problem.
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>>33497715
>not farming dumbasses who try to do the mission with jank decks
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>>33497685
Holy shit, thats sounds like a fun meme deck. I tried to make medicham double barrage with regirock but its shit honestly. You got a excadrill list for reference?
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>>33497715
wish they gave tokens, at least then I can flip those tokens into some actually usable packs like guardians rising.
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>>33497605
for a almost decent deck, Solgaleo/BabyRay with a tech Drampa has worked alright for me.

>>33497731
Different guy, but any time I face those I end up also seeing glaceon EXs.
So they just swap around based on whatever you've got up front.
The only thing that gets through are basic non-e/gx, which there are very few that can stand their own / take out those mon.

It means a LOT of decks just get hardcountered, and the few that don't still don't have the leverage to win often enough.

>>33497794
they're still usable. just treat them like slightly stronger pika packs you got for free.
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>>33497807
>they're still usable. just treat them like slightly stronger pika packs you got for free.

Packs from Special Challenges are trade-locked, hoss.
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>>33497829
Oh, you right. I keep forgetting that.

Welp, ignored then. Just as well, I have no fairy deck.
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>>33497781
This is what I use.
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>>33478125
is that card real?
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>>33497906
also don't try to play this deck in standard, sky field is essential since you want 4 dhelmise benched, need room to build excadrills up and need a spot for a lele or two.
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Any sites that have japanese local/regional tournaments deck lists? I want to see what from the new sets is worth preparing for
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>>33497906
can I use a 1-1 Octillery line instead of Tapu Meme?
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>>33498045
Fuck no. Octillery is still a good consistency card, but it drawing until you have 5 is nowhere near as good as dropping a Lele to snag any supporter you need at the time, including Sycamore who draws you 7 and dumps the cards you couldn't use from your hand.
>>33497927
It absolutely is. Secret Rare from Shining Legends, hasn't been released in English yet though.
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>>33495527
Update. Went a completely different route. Rate me pls.
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>>33498268
Get those Wishiwashi out of your deck literally right this instant. Replace them with a 1-1 line of Staryu BKP/Starmie EVO or Remoraid/Octillery. Nest Balls seem like overkill and can't trigger Lele's ability. Replace them with another Ultra Ball and a Switch (you'd be surprised how useful just one can be). Fighting Fury Belt might be a good idea as well. Otherwise it looks pretty solid.
>>33479572
This is my list, give it a look over.
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>>33498268
-1 Max Elixir
-2 Super Rod
-2 Nest Ball
-2 Skyla
-2 Wishiwashi
-1 Choice Band
-2 Float Stone

+1 Staryu
+1 Starmie
+1 Ultra Ball
+3 Fighting Fury Belt
+1 Turtonator GX
+1 Volcanion
+2 Fire Energy
+1 N
+1 Brooklet Hill

a ranger might be a consideration.
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Is Darkintergral the best poketuber right now? Used to watch pooka but he quit
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>>33498364
This is working great on the ladder. What would I take out for the ranger should I ever need it?
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>>33498546
Not at all, he's a terrible player and while his decks are kind of creative sometimes, they're mostly just meme decks. I personally like Omnipoke
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>>33497906
you could play parallel world to dump the lele's then field blower away your own stadium.

it's kinda jank, but doable. I don't think any ancient trait pokemon are standard legal though, so it doesn't matter.
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>>33498983
>>33497906
It's an Expanded deck, not standard. The Parallel City thing seems janky though. My suggestion would be Ninja Boy to turn those Leles into Drillbur or Dhelmise.
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So, who gonna get one?
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>>33499401

I might, it's only $79.99.
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>>33498582
Yea he pretty much makes meme decks. Fun to watch not gonna lie
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>>33498546
how can you stand the way he talks? jesus fucking christ he sounds retarded in every fucking video, I can't watch any more than 10 seconds
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>>33496367
What about Rayquaza?
>>
I don't know much about Pokémon TCG but I like the art.
Are there any cards with Kahili on them?
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>>33500100
Not yet
There almost certainly will be soon though.
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is this asking for too much or what
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>>33500100

Considering the only named characters without supporter cards right now are Fabio, Colress, Kahili, Nanu, the former metal trial captatin, the 2 captains from poni, and the Dragon guy I'd say she'd be in the next 2 Jap sets
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I have 30 GRI. What flip should I go for?
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>>33500752
lele
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Newfag here, I got the alola ninetales deck and wondering how to make it better, here's the deck list

https://pastebin.com/R7Rp7F34

I'm guessing get rid of everything fire, boufallant, switch the bad vulpixs with the good ones, the kingdra line, the water monkey line, bring water energy down to like 10-12, add double colorless energy, get Ninetales GX, ultra ball, Professor sycamore, N, and something else?

I'm not sure that's from a day of researching and starting to play
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>>33500247
no one wants those things, you have better luck trading a chest for those
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>>33500831
RA or FA?
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>>33500832
+1 Alolan Ninetales GX
+1 Alolan Ninetales BUS
+1 Vulpix (The good one)
+2 Tapu memes (If you can)
+1-1/2-1/2-2 Octillery/Remoraid line
+4 Sycamore
+3~4 N
+1~2 Skyla
+1~2 Acerola
+1~2 Briggette
+2~3 Guzma
+4 Ultra Ball
+1 Manaphy EX
+4 Aqua patch
+2 Field blower
+1~2 Rescue stretcher
+2~3 Brooklet Hill
+3~4 DCE
Drop the levels if you want, the stadium does that work.

- Bruxish
- Big Malasada
- Lana
-3 Hau
-2 Timer Ball
+3~4 DCE

This list from another anon is good too >>33480752
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>>33501034
>Drop the levels
>3~4 DCE

>Drop the nest
>2~3 DCE
Fix'd
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>go to dollar tree
>they got like 3 boxes of BUS in
>weigh it all
>end up getting 35 packs in range
>2 Machamp GX, HR Salazzle, FA Guzma, loads of holos and reverse holos

80 bucks of cards for 35 isn't bad.
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>>33500203
>>33500744
OK, thank you, I'll be watching these threads until then.

Kinda unrelated, but here you have a Winona card with the text removed, I hope I get an editor to do the same thing with the future Kahili card. art.
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>>33501034
>>33501069
ty I'll look out for these cards
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>>33501115
c o d e s?
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>>33501115
Dollar Tree sells packs of Pokemon cards for a dollar each? Seriously?
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>>33501184
Dollar packs have no codes. They have little advertisements for leagues, the anime or PTCGO.

>>33501187
They're gimmick packs with a common, uncommon, and either a common, reverse holo, or rare or above. Normally a box of them may only have 1-3 ultra rares at all in like 50 packs, but they can be weighed, making them by far the most profitable packs to buy if you have a scale. Last time I went they had Flashfire and I got both Zard Y's out of 10 packs.
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when are fort wayne top 8 lists posted
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>>33501624
See >>33456569
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>>33478125
Show me better artwork than this.
YOU CANT'!
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Any of you guys buy any of the 3 card packs that are found in the dollar store? I bought a bunch and got a GX and break (they were shit) as well as a few holos.
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I got a gardevoir full art in the jangmo-o blister, what does this even unlock?
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>>33501125
reveal ur
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>>33500247
try 1/1/1 since brigette can be resold 2 for 1 pack
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Any particular sellers that sell bulk codes that you would recommend?
Gonna try getting a bunch of GR and BS
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>>33502437
ptcgo.com

Cheap per pack, I think.
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should I crack my packs of sun and moon or is there something i should keep them for? sort of new to ptcgo
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>>33502499
if they're tradable, trade them. It's a shit set but has okay trade value still.
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>>33502437
I have yet to see a regular site that offers better prices than sellers on eBay. Sites like ptcgo offer GR at like 79c per code, eBay sellers list 36 for <$20.
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>>33497663
Excadrill is also good in expanded.
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Looking to get into the tcg, started playing online to test the waters. Followed the links, got my packs, been grinding ladder for reward cards, etc. Have a few questions:

Game seems very snowball oriented. It's almost impossible to come back after having a big poke knocked out. Is this just the nature of theme decks or is constructed like this too?

Is it possible to build a competitive deck on a budget? (around $100)

The rotation of cards isn't well explained though I might just be dumb. There are cards that are reprinted in new sets like items and supporters that don't rotate out often yes?

Is there a date for rotation or is it dependent on the release date of new sets?

Thanking everyone in advance
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>>33503202
>Game seems very snowball oriented. It's almost impossible to come back after having a big poke knocked out. Is this just the nature of theme decks or is constructed like this too?

Having a big attacker knocked out early can be rough, but in the late game, having a set up bench, it's not too much of a big deal, especially if you're ahead on prizes.

>Is it possible to build a competitive deck on a budget? (around $100)

Yes, Greninja and Passimian/Mew are budget decks that use no Leles and are therefore cheaper. You can still make competetive decks without Lele, but Lele makes the decks more consistent, that's why it's so expensive

>The rotation of cards isn't well explained though I might just be dumb. There are cards that are reprinted in new sets like items and supporters that don't rotate out often yes?

Yep. When a card is reprinted you can also use older versions of the card even if the set it is from is not in standard, if that makes sense. Take Rare Candy or N for instance.

>Is there a date for rotation or is it dependent on the release date of new sets?

From what I understand the rotation happens not long after every Pokemon World Championships.
>>
why is it so easy to find octillery but impossible to find remoraid fuck
>>
>>33503617
Open a trade then
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>>33503202

N and in November, Counter Catcher are the big comeback cards. Can't count the number of times I've nearly been wiped then dropped an N to put the opponent to 1 card. There are counters to N like Oranguru and Octillery but there's a reason it's 3-4 of in every deck.

Tapu Lele is required for a real competitive deck, $120 on Leles and $50ish for the rest of the deck is normal. Once you have the Leles though, each successive deck is well under $100.

Legality is done by set. When a card is reprinted in a set its legality is based on most recent print unless that print is an explicitly labeled 'alt-art' print with the same set symbol as the last legal card as was done with a lot of the recent pseudo-promos.

Promotional cards rotate as well, mostly based on the order of their release. They usually rotate out around the same time as the set nearest to their release. Some promos get reprinted and get a new promo number though.

Rotation always happens after world championships.
>>
Has anyone tried a lycanrock sun form with a energy disruption theme?
>>
>>33504595
no but i've had decent success running a dual furries deck with A-ninetales (GX and normal) and Midnight GX and devo spray for the gust reuse. Brooklet Hill searches for both prevos
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>>33504595
People did that deck back when it was new but it's not an entertaining enough meme, and garbodor makes playing all disruption decks an exercise in masochism.
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>>33499498
uhh, you're not supposed to use the R-word with actual retards.
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Is this a fair trade? If anyone is interested pls reply to me
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>>33504756
A Muk is worth 1.5 packs each, as is rainbow Vikavolt GX. The other cards are basically worthtless. So no, whoever gives the Muks is getting the short end of the stick.
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newbie that was lucky with guardians rising packs (got 2 leles)
the tapu bulu/vika deck is insanely fun, I havent lost a lot with it. Is there a current tier list?
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>>33504756
The energy is worthless, as are the other two on Vika side.
The GXs are the same cost.

Seems fine to me
>>
>>33504988
>>33504829
I usually throw in 2 shit cards to make it seem more "fair". Now that you say it I can probably take away the energy cards
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what about using garbador (ability one) and alola ninetails? I want to be able to shut down most decks.
>>
>>33505029
isnt espeon garbodor the best shut down deck right now?
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>>33505029
Your garbodor also shuts down your own pokemon's abilities, including your ninetails.
>>
wasn't specific my bad. Meant the GX one
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>>33505021
Why did you want the energy anyways? You get an unlimited supply of non-blings like that.
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>>33501964

My trick was buying the three pack blisters. I bought three GR ones with Vikavolt promo for my bulu deck and pull an ultra rare in each. Rainbow Alolatales GX, regular Lele GX, and Komomo-O GX respectively.
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>>33501624

>expanded

wow it's fucking nothing. good show by that Golisiopod/Seismetoad deck tho.
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>>33501219

Has anyone ever taken a scale to a store to buy loose packs (not fucking card stores obviously I mean like Target or Dollar Tree) and gotten shit from the clerks/managers for scaling? I used to scale for Yugimons back when so I have a reliable coin scale.
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>>33505291
I chat with the old ladies working at the Dollar Tree counter while I do it.
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>>33500247

>Bridgette

KEK
she is climbing up mate.
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>>33505201
I forgot in the middle of putting up the trade.
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>>33505319
I remember pulling like 4 FAs and selling them off when BT was new and she was considered a dud.
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>>33500744

Colress can fuck off we don't need more reprint supporters. We've had N for 6 years(minus 6 months mid format before Fates Collide reprint) and Juniper/Sycamore for even longer. Let them fucking rotate and make more balanced cards that everyone won't be required to run as a 3-4 of.
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>>33499401

I need to see an english set list. You know our english sets love to remove shit and put them elsewhere as padding. I have a suspicion they are going to pimp out FA Raichu GX and Zoroark GX as boxes like they did with the Alola starters.
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>>33497245

>Bamboo Rocket Waifu and Christmas Tree got abilities

go on......
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>>33496187

protip if you just starting out and need some cheap staples trying finding the Keldeo Rayquaza Battle Box.
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>>33505333

setup decks were shit then and Hoopa EX was superior then. Bridgette came out at the wrong AND right time. Too early to be good but early enough to not be errata'd by future game mechanics with the GXs.
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>>33505333

>FA Bridgette

HNNG. She is up there with best FA Supporter cards along with Breakpoint Skyla, Winova, the upcoming N and YA BOI GUZMA
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>>33505470
>they will never errata Carbink Break's Safeguard to include GXs and make it one of the best cards in the format
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>>33505413
Only Xurkitree-GX has an Ability, Celesteela-GX has a 3-Energy attack. Celesteela-GX is also a Colorless-type and has a Lightning-type weakness.
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>>33505642
I'm guessing they picked celesteela to be colorless so all the UBs have unique typings (Kartana is steel already)
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Tfw you turn 1 Kiawe and your opponent immediately concedes.
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>>33505879
tfw you bench lele on turn one and they concede
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>>33505522
You don't know what errata means.
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>>33505853

she does have the flying type and would qualify as such. Electric weakness is dumb but it is better than having a fire weakness.
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>>33505379
They better not be, I want that raichu so much, but well if they put it in a box, no need to get lucky with pull
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enjoy, please share what you pull/trade for
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>>33506071
Meowstic's not bad for a meme deck
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>>33505977
>electric weakness is dumb
>what is Skarmory
>>
Is it just me or did it become really hard to flip Octillery just recently?
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I bought a bunch of cards earlier hoping to turn them over for a profit, but from how it looks, it's already been picked clean. Got 91 codes for TCGO though.

Any advice on how to sell these online codes?
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>>33490288
20 commons seems like a lot for a single pika pack.
Certainly for useful commons (vulp) and for uncommons (metang).

You sure about those numbers?
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>>33506651

eBay is your best bet, what packs are they?
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Any YouTube channels covering basics for beginners? My best deck is fighting probably, got luck with a few marshadow gxs
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>>33506423
I've never had good luck with Oct.

Heard bus are losing buying power, so that may be part of your problem too. I just finished converting all mine to card or GRI. Mostly FA metagross, 3 packs seems to be the highest you can flip up to before people start getting savvy about equivalent worth. I can't hit 4s like SR A-Nine for the life of me.
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>>33506767
See >>33459952
>>33461455
>>33461559
>>33463787
Tl;dr
>omnipoke
>tablemon
>team fish knuckles
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>>33506767
How basic you need? We have some guides in OP, the pastebin and image.

If it's more about strategy with specific cards, imma tell you now, Marshadow is best used in toolbox, not mono-fighting.

It's built in attack is a worse Lycanroc, and it's GX specifies basic energy and because it only looks at itself is a worse version of a lot of attacks.
However, it can steal the attack of anything in your discard, so long as it can pay the cost. A good way to convert a good attack to Fighting damage for coverage.
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>>33506761
Mostly x/y and b/w stuff.
From what I've seen, Flashfire, Primal Clash, Phantom Forces, Ancient Origins, Roaring Skies. There was a Lugia EX code too somewhere
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