/heg/ Hacking & Essentials General: Ditto Edition

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First for Prism's shitty map.

>What are major red flags for a map?
Lack of optional areas.
Re-skinned Kanto/Johto.
Linear, walled-in routes.
Towns that aren't cities look symmetrical or geometric.

What happened to that guy who was downgrading Gen 3 tiles to Gen 1/2?

>>33449424
There's a hack that does that on Pokecommunity, not sure if that's what you're talking about. Last I heard he's still working on it but has less free time now.

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that other thread is pure cancer.
have some tiles

>>33449564
Why do these buildings have such thick outlines?

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>>33449580
that was his style
it was all the rage back in the day, but now that photobucket went maximum jew, alistair's tiles are nearly impossible to find

>>33449595
I like these much better.

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>>33449606
Me too, but I'm just posting random shit from my folder.

Why should credit be given for used assets?

>>33449652
Because otherwise you're taking someone else's work and passing it off as your own. What are you, 5?

>>33449668
I wouldn't see it that way unless someone actually states they made it even though that isn't the case.

>>33449687
they usually do, and they ask for credit to be given

>>33449687
You'd feel differently if you made any tiles.

>>33448776
Look at how the color changes in maps/PokeCenter2F.asm when you're battling/trading and the blue girl sprite becomes the red guy sprite.

I need some opinions on this. It's for the Rival Battle theme, but I'm not completely sold on it yet. I only have a part of it composed so far and it's still just a piano midi.

https://soundcloud.com/coraldev/rivalbattle

Any thoughts?

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>>33449424
last picture i saw from it

>>33449946
that actually looks really nice

>>33449946
>there is literally no excuse for Game Freak not being able to do this for Gold and Silver

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>>33449946
picture from before then

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>>33450008
to compare

>>33449946
>>33449980
>>33450008
>>33450021
This is concept art for Red++ 3.0. It won't be out any time soon, but the pokered-gbc changes are being merged in so that this sort of sprite work will be possible.

Really any GBC hack could so something like this. The key features are having space for lots of tiles (here's a tutorial for 240 <https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/7167/>, Polished Crystal now has 247, and Red++ 3.0 plans to have 256), and editing the palettes (just change tilesets/bg.pal in pokecrystal). And good art design, of course, but plenty of free tilesets exist. Just don't be limited by the default ones you see in crowdmap.

>>33450166
neat

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>>33449354
Is this a DittoWare reference?

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>>33450211

3d fangames!

>>33450239
Will the C&Ds be in 3D, too?

>>33450166
>the default ones you see in crowdmap.
???? it uses whatever you give it

>>33450410
Right, but not everyone bothers to give it anything besides the default pokecrystal metatiles. As far as I know there's no GUI editor for tilesets yet, crowdmap only edits the maps themselves, so it's less beginner-friendly.

Has any romhack/fangame majorly overhauled the stats and movepools of most pre-existing Pokemon?

>>33450541
a lot of the difficulty hacks do that sort of thing

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Can anyone help. I named it romfs.bin and this happens

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Android version looks broken

>33449652
(You)

Fuck, I was actually a bit excited to try out Pokémon XY: Naturia Version, the Gold hack, until I realized it didn't have a devamped, or at least partially devamped, Kalos. It's just Johto with Calem and Serena as protags, some of the GSC "beta maps" with some new tiles, and a modded dex, as well as basic stat/move changes. That's a bit disappointing.

If anyone's played it, can you tell me if I'm missing/overlooking something?

>>33451802
No, you have it right, except it also has abilities. It was the first Gen 2 hack to implement abilities actually, though both Prism and Polished Crystal have since matched it.

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>tfw mockups and not actual hacks
Why are the Japanese fans even crueler than us?

>>33451882
just steal the sprites and do it yourself ;)

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>>33451882

What are some romhacks that don't have a cringeworthy edgelord stories?

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>making a nonlinear fangame
>tfw keep making maps either big as a ratmaze or small enough to fit on two screens

I can make perfectly sized towns though.

Not sure if it's the right place, but are there any Sun/Moon hacks? Any way to change clothes colors and models?

>>33453979
I'm in the exact same boat. My towns are decent but my routes and dungeons are atrocious.

what makes a good route

>>33454360
I think there's a difficulty hack or two of Sun and Moon but nothing that would make the game worth playing like fixing the shitty cutscenes.

>>33453979
Can we see them?

QUICK. Tips on how to make a haunted cave dungeon following my starting town

>>33458882
spooky gastly

>>33458882
Just think of the Old Chateau from Platinum
Quiet or no music
Ghost/Bat Pokemon
A few sprites in places that shouldn't be possible then disappear
Doors/Holes that lead back to the same place

As far as mapping goes, think of a spooky symbol and try and make the map into that shape. Might be cool

Has anyone gotten a day/night system working with Gen 3?

>>33459955
Yes.

>>33459955
didn't that donut steel crystal remake have a day/night system?

Can someone give a checklist of all the folders you need to go to in the Red disassembly to completely replace all data associated with a Pokémon?

>>33459955
Eccentric Emerald does. It's kinda bad though. The sunset and night make the game overworld hard to see and you may have to strain your eyes

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but might as well, so I got an old R4 which I stopped using some time ago, anyway the point is for some reason it doesn't allow to save/delete games I also can't add any new ones. I have tried formatting it but for some reason it fails. So anyone know what this might be and how to solve it?

>>33464233
not the right place to ask
ask /vg/'s /hbg/

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>>33458882
>A variety of Ghost Pokemon, obviously
>Quiet music with "bumps" but no obvious rhythm
>A single NPC that can't be reached or interacted with (maybe the Player's sprite?) that's only present your first time through
>No other NPCs at all
>Pathways that look similar
>A long, featureless, "flashable" hallway at the end

The NPC could have dialog like "......" to prevent crashing if the player cheats their way to them. Avoid calling the Player out as a cheater, since it'd break immersion. But also don't reward them with additional dialog.

The final hallway would be a dark room with flat walls, requiring Flash to see.
It should be long enough to make the Player question it, but not long enough to be annoying (maybe a good 30-45 seconds of walking?).
You could have the room be entered through a hole in the previous floor so the Player can't go back, adding to the "spooky" atmosphere.

Somewhere along the walls in the final hallway could be a strength rock or a small lake that the Player would only see if they came back with Flash.
Past that could be a Ghost-related item like a Spell Tag, or even a battle with the aforementioned NPC, who would really be a high-leveled Ghost Pokemon with a special ability or moveset that would make them worth catching (Gengar with Prankster or Shadow Tag, and moves like Mimic or Role Play).

>>33465852
>but no obvious rhythm

no

>>33465852
I agree with >>33465936 on the music, you need a rhythm, don't go full Metroid 2. You might want to try composing a song similar to the Burnt Mansion theme, where the countermelody isn't exactly four bars before it loops so it de-syncs with the rest of the song and thus sounds relatively random even though it isn't.

>>33450008
looks amazing desu

>>33465852
don't use no rhythm, just use different instruments

>>33451882
speaking of which, are there good japanese rom hacks? I'm sure there are, I've just never heard of any or played any.

>>33467181
Vega and Altair/Sirius are the only ones I know about.

>>33467181
Vega is pretty good if you don't mind Fakemon. The difficulty is pretty dumb, though. Hope someone releases an edited version with a better level curve one day.

>there's a consensus on the best HGSS/BW/2/XY/ORAS hacks
>there's still no consensus on the best Platinum hack

What's the best Platinum hack, /vp/?

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>>33467181
Complete
Vega
Altair/Sirus(english patch I saw was a mess though)
Golden Sun

Incomplete
Pokemon Procyon/Deneb(5 gym demo,still being worked on this year for a graphics overhaul)

There isn't very many,most other language ones are Spanish or something.

>>33467361
What are the best HGSS/BW/2/XY/ORAS hacks

>>33467686
HG/SS-Sacred Gold/Storm Silver
BW/BW2-Blaze Black/Volt White
XY-Eternal X/Wilting Y
ORAS-Rutile Ruby/Star Sapphire

>>33467686
Mind crystal is pretty goo

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>>33467700
SM-Nova Sun/Umbra Moon

How does Rising Ruby/Sinking Sapphire compare to Rutile/Star?

pic related, wtf is this in Eternal X/Wilting Y

>>33467786
I've never run across something like your pic in my play through of Wilting Y you sure you got the new update?It finally got one this year.I also haven't tried Rising/Sinking yet so I really can't say.

>>33465852
So far I know I want NPCs that disappear after being spoken to. And random warps that you have to go in that take you somewhere creepy (maybe like empty rooms in a house) and lets you piece together some kind of story about a tragedy from long ago. I'm also torn on whether or not to have wild Pokemon in case that it might break the immersiveness

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>>33467786
Wow,ok i looked at the screenshots and its actually a thing.

>>33467786
>>33467826
>>33468560
That's what happens when you try to make a 721 hack in a game with no new wild Pokemon in the postgame. It was either put the legendaries in stupid places or leave them out of the game entirely, so most of them wound up jammed into hordes in late game areas. That pic isn't even the worst example, there are hordes of things like the weather trio in Victory Road.
The encounter rates for those hordes are pretty low, though, so most people probably won't see them unless they go looking for them.

>>33467478
Procyon/Deneb are still being developed?

AWW YISS

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I'm thinking of making a small fix to gen 1/2 games to center the screen relative to the player position (as it was moved to the right by one tile, 8 pixels).
I just wanted to ask if maybe some other hacks actually made it before, so I wouldn't waste my time.

Any new good completed rom hacks, played most if not all the recommended/ required ones already.

How do I figure out demo, alpha and beta for rom hacking?

>>33469636
time to start learning how to make them. once you've exhausted the good ones there isn't much left, and the only way to fix that is by having people start making games.

>>33469151
I really like this idea.
I don't think it's ever been done before.

>>33469151
I've never noticed that before, but it will drive me crazy now

>>33467361
>>33467361
>>33467361
>>33467361
>>33467361

>>33470390
Sorry mate, I felt the same when I noticed it.
>>33470382
Okay, thanks.

>>33449389
How does that red box town work?

>>33458882
>>33465852
A cave is a lot trickier than a house. With a house you can do everything the cave does but also have stuff like moving furniture and such.

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>>33469151
Cool idea! Some things to pay attention to:
• Some trainers face left or right and can see N tiles ahead. Make sure that none of them can notice you from offscreen.
• If you shift the screen over by 8px, the side columns of tiles will be cut in half. Check what happens to NPCs standing there. It might be weird.
• Walk on the leftmost edge of maps and make sure their border block doesn't bleed through in odd places. (A canon example: walking into Cerulean Cave, the border block of trees bleeds through at the top of the screen.)

>>33470701
Thanks for the tips!

I know how to make an NPC disappear when a certain event is triggered, but is there a way to do the opposite? Make and NPC appear only when an event is set?

>>33471080
In pokecrystal, obviously.

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>>33469151
Let's call it a progress.

>>33471080
>>33471093
Yeah just do the opposite
working in assembly, to make a sprite appear, the event attached to the sprite isn't set.
when you set the event, the sprite disappears, right?

So if you want an npc to appear when the event is set, just "clearevent"

I would start the game by having the event set
Hide it along with something, like when you choose your starter pokemon
>setevent event_got_charmander_starter
>setevent event_NPC_wont_appear

When it comes time to make the sprite appear for the event, clear it
>clearevent event_NPC_wont_appear

if you only want it to appear that one time
at the end of its attached event, just re-set the event

>setevent event_NPC_wont_appear

>>33471173
you tried/10

>>33471173
I like how the character is still in the same place

>>33471196
I'm dealing with bg layer at the moment, so sprites are not effected.

>>33471183
Ok. I figured that was it. I just wasn't sure if there was a better way to do it. Also, while I'm at it, what is the best way to make an event happen as soon as you enter a room? Just put a trigger tile on the tile you spawn in on?

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>>33471173
I totally wouldn't prof. Oak.
Sorry but dealing with glitches is the best part of this.

>>33471254
Remind me of the safari zone bug.

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>>33471254
I don't quite understand this assembly mumble gamefreak did. Maybe will try to make second attempt somewhen.

>>33471080
>>33471093
>>33471183
>>33471238
engine/std_scripts.asm:InitializeEventsScript sets a bunch of events at the start of the game for NPCs that should be invisible.

If you need one whose visibility is dynamically determined when you enter a room (e.g. depending on what day it is), add a MAPCALLBACK_OBJECTS callback that dis/appears the NPC depending on the condition.

>>33465852
>Avoid calling the Player out as a cheater, since it'd break immersion

If they want to break their own immersion by cheating then that's their problem

>>33472309
Or you could not be bitter about something so tiny (cheating in a single-player game) and let them keep their immersion because who gives a shit? You could even have a line about how they must be a ghost too since they're walking through walls.

>>33472309
If you take the time to maintain the atmosphere even in these situations, it can really go a long way to combat "cringey" writing.
Imagine if the player somehow managed to get to that area without cheating, due to an oversight in your map design. The atmosphere would fall apart immediately if they talked to an NPC and read something like "haha fuk u cheater nub xDD".
Hell, even if someone DID have to cheat to encounter the dialog, hearing about it secondhand would be a turn off for me, because I'd expect that kind of thing all over the game.

Meanwhile, a fittingly stoic "........" would maintain, and maybe even reinforce the player's immersion if they were cheating. Knowing that the developer almost expected you to read it, that's the kind of thing you'd find in "easter egg" sections of gaming magazines and on tcrf for official games.

>>33473298
All of a sudden I want to do it but who the fuck wall cheats in romhacks

>>33473543
Same people who do it in official Pokemon games, I'd imagine.

Is having too many side characters a bad thing? I have two villain teams as well as two rivals as well as the gym leaders and elite 4. I do have 3 of the gym leaders as characters that do something outside of their gym (like Giovanni or some of the gen 5 ones) as well as a champion that actually exists in the plot a la Lance.

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I downloaded Pokemon Rejuvenation, how do I open it?

>>33473543
People who see an NPC beyond the walls and want to know what it says?

>hurr durr what is curiosity

>>33473813
Unzip

>>33473793
As long as they're not forced, it's fine. They should all have their place in the story and be properly balanced.

>>33473298
What about characters with more serious but still snide remarks like
"You aren't really supposed to be in here, but there's nothing I can really do about it."
or something along those lines? I dunno, I kinda want to acknowledge it even if it breaks the game.

>>33473832
One of the rivals is an undercover gym leader, and the other is story-related similarly to how N was. Is that too forced?

>>33473848
Fourth-wall breaking is always bad in a Pokemon game. It's never been done well, and I doubt there's a way to do it well.

>>33473863
It sounds fine, but it comes down to how they're used and written.

>>33473828
isn't there supposed to be a Game.exe file that you click on?

>>33449354
why the fuck does it have to be such a pain in the ass to replace models in ORAS

>>33473848
a character saying something like
>'please leave my home youre not welcome'
isnt edgy and kind of works in ths logic of the game because if a homeless ten year old barged into your house it would be unrealistic to be hospitable

>>33474476
You would def. be expected to be at least kind of hospitable to a homeless /child/ who came to your home. Most people would consider you a p.bad person if you didn't at least keep track of them until the police could come.

also the player character probably does knock tb h. just cause they don't show something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. they also clearly sleep and eat and stuff since they're alive.

>>33473878
>what are the gamefreak devs and the gaming kids

>>33474727
Good news, they're never good.

Which version of AdvanceMap should I use? 1.92 or 1.95? I just found out I've been using 1.95 for a while and I think it's the reason behind a shit ton of my problems

>>33476022
both, for different things

What's the best way to fully replace Pokémon in Red, especially if you also want to be able to use the MissingNo. index slots? I remember a few years ago looking at some tools and finding they were either incomplete (couldn't edit certain things) or didn't give access to the unused 104 slots. What's the state of it today?

There's the disassembly but I'm not completely sure how to navigate it to find everything, especially those extra slots. I actually have an understanding of assembly but figuring out how the different parts reference one another is kind of a chore.

Why is it when I make a cave warp in FR, the entrance works but the exit doesn't? If I change the movement permission to C or 1 the warp still doesn't work. Please help

>>33476182
The tile you place the warp on has to have specific properties. Take a look at one of the vanilla caves, the tile by the exit will look exactly the same as all the other floor tiles, but will show up as a separate tile in the list on the side. Make sure you're using that tile and it should work.

>>33476441
Well that's the problem. Aside from the map tileset, the warp to exit the cave has all the exact same properties as the vanilla warps. But for whatever reason it still won't allow me to exit. I even tried changing the tileset and manually changing the block's behavior byte.

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I couldn't finish S&M because there were too many tutorials and the game was too easy. Never left the second island. If I try pic related, what can I expect? Plus, does PKHeX/PKSM work on it? I just wanna fix the Natures and set the IVs on my 31/26/21/16/11/6 autistic pattern.

>>33473793
Typically the more antagonists you have the less effective each one is.

>>33479620
This. If you go full retard and include too many rivals the player won't care about any of them. Look at Life of Guardians if you want to see that in action, there are like ten rivals.

>>33479573
it doesn't change the story at all

>>33479672
Oh, then I will get bored. Thanks for the info.

>>33479573
it's pretty horrible, gen 6 and 7 hacks are shit

>>33473793
do you want a writer to lend a hand, anon

is it wrong to have waifubait and/or husbandobait charecters?

iirc pk3DS has a experimental script editor for documenting shit
not sure if it actually does anything

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I can see it now:
NEW INSANE POKÉMON GO 3D GAME (MUST WATCH)

>>33480811
No, they're pretty much obligatory at this point '_>'

>>33480873
that is sick

post good gen 2 maps with stock tiles

these tiles are a little hard to make look good and I want some examples of it done well

>>33480873
pls elaborate on pic related

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Why are you not playing the the Pokemon Red/Blue hack with better graphics/features and custom party icons for each pokemon?

https://twitter.com/eevee/status/861521744669974528

>>33482776
because it's the same fucking game i've already played with minor insignificant edits

I want to tweak a Wii pokemon game. Is there something like this http://problemkaputt.de/gbatek.htm but for Wii? Mainly want details of how it accesses save files and such.

>>33482771
Probably the newest version of the Meta Mercury engine.

>>33482797
>>33482771
'tis

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>>33482771
Essentials is going to be made obsolete and we're going to enter another golden age.

>>33483218
what is happening to that poor solosis

>>33482657
see
>>33421983
>>33458822

Also, is Kalos devamp guy in this thread?
>>33455447
>>33458705

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>>33480873
(YOU)

EXPLAIN

>>33486969
the beginning of the slow death of essentials

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>>33482657
This would be a side town like Verdanturf or Cherrygrove. Maybe a secondary character lives here, or you acquire a key item for the main plot.

>>33487508
And maybe romhacking, if it can be ported ti 3DS/etc

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>>33487555
Another concept map. This town has the Berry Master's house, a Grass- or Bug-type Gym, and a botany lab or greenhouse. The south path leads to a forest. West is more urban, east is more rugged. The happiness rater could go in the larger house.

>>33487584
Essentials is already on PC, and I don't use it there. Why would I use it on 3DS?

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>>33487691
Forgot the roof color.

>>33487710
I get that it's supposed to be a greenhouse or botany lab, but the green bricks looks strange. The roof too.
I would definitely change either the color or the building in general

>>33487697
No, nigga, I mean dittoware

I want to make a rom hack that is basically this.
>firered
>all the nice patches people have made over the years (night/day, etc)
>only add Johto pokemon
>double the size of the routes either by adding additional paths, making them longer or wider
>more NPCs with interesting bits of lore text
>tougher gym leaders and trainers but no significant changes to pokemon for the most part
>new in game trades for rare pokemon from other gens

Any interest in this?

>>33488357
>i want to make clover with one extra feature and no fakemon

>>33488402
Sounds great, I'd play it

>>33488357
im slightly confused
>only add Johto pokemon
>new in game trades for rare pokemon from other gens

>>33488617
>>33488357 cont
i presume that only Johto pokemon would be added to the wild
but
>new in game trades for rare pokemon from other gens
still confuses me as to why and for what purpose

>>33488643
In game trades would be pokemon from gen 4 due to its connection to the region. Hidden behind various challenges or a small dungeon maybe.

>>33488357
Also the Mt Silver area will be added

>>33488687
>connection to the region
how so
>>33488717
isnt that in johto
apologies for all the questions

>>33488832
Mt.Silver is in Johto but you need to go to Kanto to enter its route.There doesn't seem to be any entrances anyone can enter in Johto.

>>33488832
Sinjoh ruins and
>>33488864

>>33488864
>>33488876
makes sense
it's a good idea for a hack

>>33487697
>>33487584
There's a 3DS, Wii-U, AND Switch SDK for Unity

>>33486969
Meta Mercury battle system

>>33483619
It's getting its pretty boi pussy impregnated (••)

>>33483650
thanks

>>33480873
Any more pics?

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>>33491556
>A horde of Wailord has appeared!

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Diancie

>>33491642
So is this the beginning of the Gen 6/7 engine or what?

>>33491648
No, Meta Mercury

>>33491653
damn son, you're going to make every other fangame creator feel inadequate
can we see an animation of it in action or is it too WIP for that atm?

>>33491657
I'll record some stuff tomorrow
Haven't pieced together the actual battling scripts to work with it yet

>>33491673
What's your aim for what the final rendering of the models should look like? Like XY or something like Ga-Ole?

>>33491642
>>33491647
This is really cool. Are they their actual sizes?

>>33491697
iirc the pokemon models have appriopriate scales in their data but they're scaled down for the 3DS games
so i'm going to assume yes

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>>33491682
Neither
Think a cross between Pokken and Smash for detail.
I'm not going as overboard with the detail, but I aim for it to be more prominent than the main series games.
>>33491697
>>33491702
This.
Reminder that someone saw wailord and said "WOAH WOAH HOLD ON. Makr that whale waist high."

>>33491712
I'm pretty certain they did this because the 3DS screen is too small. So, you're going to be replacing the textures for each Pokemon? Bold task. Also, are you going to be using trainer models too?

>>33491712
Are all 802 already implemented in the engine?

>>33491712
Instead of making new textures you can use waifu2x and make the colors darker like how they were in bw

>>33491719
Right, but a few extra steps and ~30-50% of the original scale wouldn't have been laughably bad and would fit right in rather easy.

>>33491721
No, I'm testing specific models for their traits at the moment.

>>33491723
They're the original textures with special materials and shaders
Waifu 2x can be a nice final touch, but simple bilinear filtering goes miles

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>>33491723
waifu2x is only good for upscaling, it's not going to give you more detail
but it does work wonders

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>>33491731
that being said, the smaller and more compressed the texture is, the uglier the result will be

>>33491731
>>33491734
How could you add more detail to a texture without having to redo it compleatly? Redoing 802+ model textures sounds insane

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>>33491738
drawing over it sometimes
not sure if max is actually going to replace textures or if he just wants detailed lighting effects
here's a texture from sonic unleashed

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>>33491740
and here's someone's remake of that

>>33491738
>>33491740

Secondary detail textures
You can wrap the old in a higher res fur/skin/material pattern

>>33491740
Detailed lighting effects could work too and would look good
>>33490504
1.How long do they take to get ported? Fo you just press a "port" button and make some modifications?
2. If it was ported to a console or something, you would open it with the homebrew launcher, correct?

>>33491743
Are you using the detail textures to modify pre-existing textures, or as a layer on top of the unmodified textures in-engine? Can't tell from your post.

Are the meta mercury fakemons getting new models? How big is your team?

3d is the best thing to happen to pokemon

>>33491871
Yes, and just me.
>>33491760
I layer them on in the engine
>>33491749
I assume you have to make more drastic modifications than just pressing the switch platform button.
In order to obtain these SDKs, you need to get clearance from Nintendo and pay for a license to develop.

>>33492893
Its probably not woth getting an sdk. Everyone already has either a window,mac,linux,ios,android. Mabye you're team should add windows phone support

>>33491642
I want this
right now

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Here's a Nihilego with a pure glass shader

>>33492893
Not sure layering them in-engine is going to look too good, especially if you don't modify the pre-existing textures. Might clash heavily or cause warping.

>>33495125
I can play with it, scale it up or down where necessary
Since they work independently, I could blend them different ways pretty seamlessly

>>33495150
Can you show an example of it on a Pokemon? Like normal Diancie, for instance?

>>33492893
You should get a team, making all those new models sounds like a chore

>>33496349
I dunno, sounds pretty fun to me
I'm sure once I learn how, I can crank them out pretty quickly

>>33495170
I'm still developing my library of secondary textures, I'll be sure to post some examples once I get my hands on enough adequate ones

>>33496378
From where?

>>33496412
Good question
There are some sites online offering free™ textures, but they're pretty bad.
I might end up ripping some from other games and adjusting to be reusable materials.
Or I could just make my own

>>33496446
textures.com is pretty good. I have my own library of textures from that and others ripped from games, maybe I should upload it somewhere.

>>33496446
Will the overworld be 2d or 3d or both?

>>33496539
3D
>>33496464
Cool I'll check it out

>>33496568
Any pics of the overworld? Any footage of the battles?

>>33496730
He said earlier he didn't have the scripts ready.

>>33495058
>>33491647
>>33491642
>>33480873
I regained hope in fan-games

>>33496733
ok

>>33496568
Is it going to be Gen 4/5-style 3D or Gen 6/7-style 3D? I know the demo has Gen 4/5-style 3D but it also had 2D battles.

>>33497340
He said he'll attempt to give the same amount of details as Smash Bros. Brawl (Pokken have that washed painting look to it).

Unfortunately, all of the current gen models are created for a cell shaded look.

>>33497392
Misread the thread. I didn't know you're refering to the world itself and how the overworld handled.

I'm hoping for a more open world kind of game, complete with a movable camera.

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>trying all sorts of dumb concepts
>scared the execution will fall flat on its face or get judged unfairly because fangame
I just don't want to be as bad as most of the shit I see, but I'm scared that I'm just making my hack worse by experimenting, should I force myself to be traditional?

>>33497939
Follow your dreams. If you finish it, people will play it, no exception.
A completed hack/fangame is a novel thing, after all.

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>>33498104
I just want to make as many people as I can happy though, that's my dream. I feel like I'm being selfish by experimenting with gimmicks nobody asked for. I barely ever come to this board because all it does is depress me that people are sad for valid reasons and the reason I care about hacking so much is because I want to help at least some of those people be happy again. It just makes me feel like I'm just digging their hole deeper by dragging down something these anons would otherwise enjoy with my selfishness. I don't want to scrap my gimmicks, but I'm scared they're impossible to make work

If I make a 5th gen hack how would I go about the other version? Would I have to do the whole thing again?

>>33498133
“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” —Henry Ford

Don't ask /vp/ users what they want. Figure out what you want, prioritize the most important "gimmicks" if you're worried about never finishing, and take the time to get those important features done right.

>>33498284
Just make one version.

How do you guys feel about an item like X-Items, but instead raises all stats?

Like X-All or something like that.
Too OP? I was thinking about using it for a rival to use against the player, but I don't know if would be too harsh.

>>33498618
That's fucking ridiculous. Make it an exclusive item that the enemy team boss makes and uses.

>>33498618
That's unbalanced as hell in the hands of the player, and kind of unfair as an enemy-only thing unless it's some sort of challenge mode.

>>33498618
If the player can also get it at some point I think it's fair.

>>33498590
I guess I'm just paranoid about having custom region forms and a slight twist to gyms

>>33498618
Way too overpowered. An enemy could use it if they have a not-fully-evolved/underleveled Pokémon for some plot reason.

>>33498652
Neither of those sound objectionable to me. Hacks have gotten away with locking gyms until you complete them, adding legendary fakemon, changing types, inventing types... If a hack is good overall, none of those will be dealbreakers, and if it's bad, taking the safe choices will just make it boringly bad instead of interestingly bad. Go ahead and take risks, it's more fun.

>>33498695
True, it's better to fail in style than to just be way too safe. I'm just afraid I'll have ruined someone's favorite although I was going to have all the canon forms available somehow in-game through methods like trades

Trying to just edit the evolutions of BW (working on making all of the different families evolve into each other), and I've got two quick questions.

1. How do I get the .narc files? All I have is .nds. Is there a different file I need to get, or is there some program that handles it? I downloaded narctool, but that asked for .carc files, which I don't have either.

2. Is there a list of the different evolution method hex codes, and how easy would it be to add new evolution methods? I understand the basic hex format (method, additional info, pokemon number), but I would like to know more about how the first two entries are interpreted exactly.

>>33491642
>That UI
You're using Unity, then? Props, I assumed someone would get around to it at some point.

>>33498621
>>33498622
>>33498634
>>33498695
Okay, I was actually going to use it for plot purpose. The rival goes around the region hitting all the local Poke-Marts, stealing their X-Items for his father. The player ocassionally teams up with the Police Force for their investigation of the thefts being committed. The rival's father plans to create an all-powerful X-Item by coalescing the 5 X-Items, mass-producing it, then selling it to mafia bosses and other region leaders, potentially motivating war, either civil or world-wide, for enormous profit. The player ends up cornering the scientist atop his R&D tower after destroying his medicine churns, although it turns out he succeeded in producing a completely working prototype dubbed, X-All. He then uses it on his ace Pokemon (I was thinking Tyrantrum)

This is done right before facing the E4. Or maybe after. Either way, pretty much near the end of the game. It's a one-time thing item

>>33498891
I actually really like this, I wish I had come up with it myself.

>>33498891
Actually a pretty bitchin idea anon, though it might need some fleshing out

>>33498891
so his evil plan is to take a bunch of over the counter meds, mix them together then sell them? and hes such a cheap fuck he has his son go steal the mass produced cheap items he needs from convenience stores? somehow both diabolical and funny

>>33498891
>>33498905
>>33499029
holy shit samefagg harder

>>33498891
>>33498905
>>33499029
>>33499047
>>33498891
>>33498905
>>33499029
>>33499047
The cringe

>>33498905
>>33499029
Honestly, it's not even the plot I'm going to be using for the game I'm working on. This is just an all-on-paper idea. But It'll be a while since I will work on a next game to use this plot, so if you guys want to incorporate this into your own games, go nuts. I think it'll be an easy plot the player can follow, without having it seem too over-the-top.

>>33499047
>diabolical and funny
Funny you mention it, but instead of his son hitting all the Poke-Marts, I first pictured the Elemental Monkeys doing it. The Police initially think just a group of Pokemon being mischievous, but as you progress, you learn that the scientist owns the Pansage, Pansear, and Panpour, and ordered them to steal for him. You learn that they only do it because he treats them harsh.

Then after you beat the scientist, the three joins your party.

>>33499050
>>33499057
Nope, not samefagging

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>>33499080
>Nope, not samefagging

oh sorry my bad. this convinces me otherwise.

>>33498133
/vp/ browsers and 4chan users in general are hypercritical, nitpicky, and never pleased. Just do you or get opinions from people don't who call everything edgy and strive to be contrarian.

>>33450166
Any notable rom hacks with Shadow Pokemon?

>>33499082
This guy samefags.

>>33499080
makes sense with the monkeys. they do the robbing, the son collects the stolen goods and also fights off potential threats to the plan. also, its refreshing for a pokemon story to move away from having a team rocket clone as the villain and instead have a single character villain whose plot isnt immediately evident if not sort of escalating from seemingly innocent monkeyshines to world breaking evil that only becomes obvious as you dig deeper.

>>33498776
bumping this question.

>>33499823
Neat, the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" monkeys doing evil because they don't know any better.

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Does anybody know where i can find the entrances to terra/marine cave in advance map?
I know that they spawn randomly on one of four routes when you speak to the weather institute man but i cant seem to find the route versions with the cave entrances like in the pic

>>33500694
I think the tile is set with a level script and the warps to Terra/Marine cave are always there

>>33500715
thankyou very much kind sir

>>33498776
Bumping again.

Also, to Max,
>>33492893
If you need any help with Unity stuff, let me know, I have 5+ years of experience using and coding in Unity, with a few published games under my belt. I'd love to see the engine when it's finished, and would gladly lend a hand or answer any questions you might have (though you seem to be doing fine on your own).

woah

I got the vega.cia, but the game always crashes when I want to choose a starter..why?

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>underage made a new thread even though this one didn't hit bump limit
>spelt editon as addition

>>33503200
>spelt
embarrassing.png

>>33503216
that's a perfectly good word ya fuckin yank

>>33499492
Are there any good completed essential games or should I wait for Sage to be finished?

>>33503231
stupid bong

>>33503259
wait for sage to be finished

>>33503267
Gen 9 will probably be out by the time sage is finished

>>33503306
i guess there's no good essentials games then

>>33503365
Pokemon Mega Adventure(Complete)
Pokemon Nobelium(Complete)
Pokemon Alchemist(Complete)
Pokemon Rose Gold(Complete)
Pokemon Raptor EX(Complete)
Pokemon Grey Topaz(Complete)

I liked these ones,Grey Topaz is abit edgy tho
Alchemist was made by an anon who posts here.

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>>33503365
There's plenty of good Essentials games, friendo.

>>33503365
Essentials will proabably be obsolite by gen 8 since dittoware has the 3d models

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>>33503633
>half of those aren't even complete

>>33503666
And yet they still have far more new and original content than an average completed romhack.

>>33503671
I didn't know they had internet in the gulags. What it's like?

will my 3ds get banned if i use custom firmware for twl save tool? i just want to backup my saves

>>33503723
wrong thread

>>33503730
what thread then nig

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>yfw max is making dittoware so he can make essentials obsolete just to piss off the essentialsfag
>>33503734
/hbg/ on /vg/

>>33503621
So which one is ACTUALLY good

>>33503819
I think they are all good but I'm easily satisfied

>>33503739
This
I'm might actually make a 3d dittoware game for fun once all 802+ are added.

>>33503739
>>yfw max is making dittoware so he can make essentials obsolete just to piss off the essentialsfag

No, if anything it's going to piss off romhackerfags because they won't have anymore excuses stopping them from making an actual original game instead of a slight edit of an already finished game.

>>33503919
Dittoware already looks better then essentials. Both sides are btfo

>>33503633
>>33503671
>>33503919

back to your containment thread >>33499772

>>33503919
congratulations, you just won a gold medal in the mental olypmics

>>33504064
>showdown
>essentials
pick 1

Didn't Max say he was going to record some shit? Where it be at?

Anyone know if there's a good way to get King's Rocks early in Nova Sun/Umbra Moon? Trying to get a Slowking and don't really wanna wait till endgame, or the 5% hold chance it has for some Pokemon.

>>33504580
My computer is basically a toaster and is really bad at recording GPU intensive programs
>>33501687
Are you on the discord? I can invite to the Dittoware development group
We'd be more than happy to have more help

>>33498776
https://github.com/andibadra/ANDT
it's a pretty simple Gen V ROM editor that can do that for you

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>>33505608
>using unity to make dittoware
>with a toaster

>>33505623
It runs fine, but running AND recording has immediate slowdown

Please disregard all other threads
Some guy is spamming the board with unnecessary threads

Any good difficulty S/M hacks yet?

Is Prism finished now so the Chinese bootleggers can make physical versions of it

>>33506186
NovaSun/UmbraMoon is good so far. I'm only on the second island, though. Made by the same guy (group?) who did Rutile/Star

>>33506246
yeah

>>33506328
Has anyone made a box / label for it?

>>33506246
Still missing the Mew event,Lance postgame quest and a few areas finished.

>>33506403
Is that rainbow team or whatever still working on it?

>>33506402
I dont think so

>>33506407
Not sure, their last update was almost a month ago but they might just be taking their time to make sure their attempts at filling in the missing content are as quality as the original game.

bump from pg 10

300

newfag here, is there a way to change the MC's sprite mid-game?

>>33509550
In Essentials yes.

In a ROM hack? lmao who the fuck knows

>>33509556
You might be able to hijack some sort of code used to change into an alternate costume, like the rocket outfit in HGSS, the contests in DPP, or the bike in every game? Maybe even the running anim could be used.

>>33505623
Nothing wrong with using a toaster to make software. It helps ensure that your shit can run on toasters.

>>33509550
You'll need to edit engine/overworld.asm:GetPlayerSprite. Check out how the ReplaceKrisSprite routine is used in maps/PokeCenter2F.asm and base something off that.

>>33509556
Why are you this stupid?

Cump.

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Is this guy still in these threads?

>>33508586
Try avalugg with an ice filter

>>33512286
He said he just did those for fun and didn't plan on doing the whole region or even using them for a hack.

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>>33512286
>another demake

why are romhacker fags unable to do anything original?

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>>33513662
Because NOBODY'S FUCKING FINISHED ONE YET
You can complain about them being saturated when SOMEONE FUCKING FINISHES ONE

should we just make a new thread? This thread is slower than a snail

Goodnight, sweet prince