Kanto Improvement Thread

>>33447350

Add Lillie to it.

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It was great for it's time maybe very linear at the start but it had actual dungeons and long roads but also extremely short roads.

Environmental Improvements:Well obviously newer console can do this better so I don't get the point of this question, maybe seasons can comeback?

Expanded Pokedex? Of course only shit games limit their Regional dex to 150-156, New evos for Kanto mons are a must.

New landmarks:New city above celadon based on the glitch city,Haunted radio tower with wild rotoms,a cave on route 7 to give a purpose,new starting town northwest of cerulean or a whole new part of kanto northwest of cerulean and obviously expand all the existing areas.

Story:Would rather have a sequel than a remake so we don't have to deal with more timelines bullshit

Well, I think it would be cool to turn Celadon City into Pokémon Las Vegas. Fancy neon light everywhere, expensive hotels with a job sidequest like in Lumiose, different and more lively music playing at night, as well as increased NPC activity during that time. Make other entertainment facilities. Give the Game Corner a traditional casino aesthetic but turn it into a "safe" minigame collection like the Pokéathlon, played on arcade machines.

Cinnabar Island should be expanded to be the size of Melemele. Give it a proper city with a port and everything, add some jungle with wild Pokémon, and an actual volcano.

They should also make Birth of Mewtwo canon by turning it into a postgame sidequest a la Looker Quest. Except this time you player, after becoming champion, is hired by Mr. Fuji to join his team on an expedition to Faraway Island to search for Mew DNA. The island should be a *huge* dungeon, themed around tropical jungle untouched by human hands where you can find Mewnium Z, Mewtwonite Y, totem battles with Pokémon like Tangrowth and Exeggutor, and of course a strand of fossilized Mew DNA at the end which you give to Mr. Fuji so he can begin creating Mewtwo.

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>enviromental improvements

The polar opposite, its Kanto.
Make it look like a crossbreed of Pyongyang and the industrial wastes of China and were golden.

>>33447350
>Celadon and Saffron as one city.
>Vermillion Port as an extension of the city, with route 6 as a small park and recreation area.
>Intersection to Johto is not the league gate, as its now elsewhere.
>Mount Silver route is now the entrance to Johto, GSC/HGSS route is gone.
Indigo Plateau official entrance to mount Silver. One of two ways to get into the new Northern part of Kanto.
>Cinnibar no longer a city.

Basically Kanto is 3 cities smalller in its original geography, but gains a huge northern part that adds like 9.

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Celadon City

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Nuggetbridge

I think other people are tired of the mega cities some of the newer games do, but I would like to urbanize the mid-game area to give Kanto more flavour. Basically, take Saffron City and the four cities/towns adjacent to it, Cerulean, Vermilion, Celadon, and Lavender, and make them all part of one big metropolis that covers the entirety of central Kanto. You can still keep the original names as districts or whatever, or still call them separate cities but have the design connect them as an urban core.

The four routes connecting the five of them are all very short as is, but I'm not suggesting removing them. Although it would all be one big city, I would still want the same or similar blockades in place, the same progression, and the equivalent of "routes" between them, with trainers and wild encounters. The route between Saffron and Vermilion for example strikes me as something that could be turned into a park within the city.

Also expanding each of them in size and theme, like >>33447466 suggests with making Celadon more neon. I also agree about making Cinnabar a much bigger island. I hesitate to say just make everything bigger, but some places need it. I would still like Pallet, Viridian, and Pewter to be kind of dinky compared to the super city, each getting a bit bigger as you move toward the center of the region.

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>>33447559
I think Pallet Town and Viridian City should be out in the countryside.

>>33447350
just hire some landscape artists to fix all the anti aesthetic and retarded routes and maps

then nuke cerulean and fuchsia city in order to rebuild them

>>33447724
>landscape artists
What the fuck, the game needs level designers to make the structure like a video game, not people who just try to make it look realistic

>>33447498
>>33447505
>>33447516
>>33447534
>game set in Kanto 20+ years after the events of HGSS
>Red is gone, Oak is gone, and everything went to shit

>>33448574
>implying Red doesn't wander the wasteland, personally responsible for its desolation
>He's the only NPC in the game that wanders through routes like you do, like a roaming legendary

>>33447350
I think it's pretty good. Could do with more Pokémon diversity though. If I were to do a remake I would add some Gen 2 mons to make the bestiary more interesting

>>33447350
Expanded Pokedex to include all evolutionary relatives of Gen 1 mons and update/rearrange gym leader teams.

Brock:
>Geodude
>Onix

Misty:
>Goldeen
>Starmie

Lt. Surge:
>Magnemite
>Voltorb
>Raichu

Erika:
>Tangela
>Vileplume
>Bellossom

Janine:
>Weezing
>Muk
>Crobat

Sabrina:
>Kadabra
>Mr. Mime
>Hypno
>Espeon

Blaine:
>Rapidash
>Flareon
>Magmar
>Magmortar

Blue:
>Pidgeyot (Mega)
>Exeggutor
>Arcanine
>Gyarados
>Alakazam
>Rhyperior (Rockium-Z)


Lorelei:
>Jynx
>Cloyster
>Lapras (Icinium Z)
>Slowbro (Mega)
>Glaceon


Bruno:
>Steelix (Mega)
>Hitmontop
>Hitmonchan
>Hitmonlee
>Machamp (Fightinium Z)

Agatha:
>Haunter
>Crobat
>Arbok
>Marowak A. (Ghostium Z)
>Gengar (Mega)

Lance:
>Aerodactyl (Mega)
>Gyarados
>Kingdra
>Exeggutor A.
>Dragonite (Dragonium Z)

Red:
>Snorlax
>Charizard (Mega)
>Blastoise (Mega)
>Venusaur (Mega)
>Scizor
>Pikachu (Pikanium Z)

Red will mega evolve whoever is the last starter he has.

>>33449726
>janine and blue as gym leaders
>but lorelei and agatha are still e4
What timeline is this?

>>33447462
FUCK KANTO

>>33447350
Start with the 251 mon from Kanto and Johto, add all their pre-evolutions and Evolutions that got added later into one super Kanto dex.

Increase the length of routes around Saffron. Place a new seaside town between Fuchsia and Lavender.

Expand all caves for revisit material

If its a remake then add characters linked to Johto and Kanto. Archer and Arianna replacing Jessie and James battles would be cool. Will as a trainer in Sabrinas gym etc

I'm kind of a sucker for directly linking the Rocket and Mewtwo plots through the silph co takeover.

Professor Oak superboss.

>>33449726
Change lances Exeggtor to haxourus

>>33447392
I think you mean delete left

>>33448645
>every time you run into him he stops moving and stares at you
>trying talk to him prompts the "..." text box as per usual, but nothing else happens

>>33447350
Make all of the forests in Kanto explorable. Not just Viridian Forest.

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>>33447350
Some suggestions, if there should ever be a new Kanto game:

>story plays a year after SM
>add Johto AND a new region
>less cutscenes and forced story dialogue, go back to how it was in Gen4 and 5
>make slight changed to Kanto and Johto, like some new buildings and new stuff on existing routes
>make the volcano on Cinnabar Island actually be visible (and accessable, put a cave in there or something)
>Cinnabar Island is rebuild at this point
>Lillie appears at MT. Silver instead of Red
>She doesnt talk MUCH and thats her only appearance
>you can choose in which region the story starts
>story is different depending on your starting region

I just dont know what to do about being overleveled when reaching the third region.
Maybe there could be some kind of border partrol between them that takes away your Pokemon, Items and access to the PC until you beat the league there.

Of course this will never happen, it would be basically 2 games in one.

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>>33450358
Where did you get that map? I like your ideas, keep posting please.

>>33450402
I found the very left map on google, it had different colors and wasnt connected to Johto at all though, so i edited them all together.

I dont really have more ideas, i just wish the games would be less story driven and focus more on adventure and exploration.
One way i can think of to make this possible is
>before getting access to a gym, you have to visit a certain area/cave/forest/whatever and find a special item there, which is hidden and locked behind some puzzles
>finding and bringing this item to the gym alone isnt enough to give you the badge, you still have to beat your way through to the gym leader
>grunts of the evil team are trying to find these items (lets just call them artifacts) too, some get ahead of you and you have to battle them to get to get the artifacts
>it turns out that the gym leaders made this mandatory in order to stop the evil team from getting those artifacts because they are needed to awaken a legendary pokemon

>>33447559
That's the most stupid idea i ever heard. This is bait yes?

>>33450236
>Archer and Arianna replacing Jessie and James battles
Why not have both?

Here's a map I made of a near-future Kanto game.

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>>33451172
Whoops.

>>33447466
This is copypasta

>>33451178
I have an underground / underwater map that I currently lack access to. The biggest thing about it is a town, Shadow Town, where the Villainous Team resides. You enter it through the Pokemon Catacombs and need it to access Saffron's Sewers to get to Saffron University after a lockdown.

This map is obsolete anyways, but it still contains most of my major ideas.

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>>33450358
>we will never get a region west of Johto possibly set in line with SM, ~10 years after the events of Ethan/Lyra's Johto journey

>>33449726
I would prefer Erika's main pokemon being Leafeon because she is Kimono Girl

>>33447392
My man

>>33450358
It'd be neat if you started in Kanto or Johto depending on your version of the the game and then the plotlines reflected this

>>33451017
I just imagined they wouldn't want to make them eh "canon" again. But hell yeah. They could be unique fights each time (double, Triple battles etc) with Arianna and Archer being traditional executive battles

>>33451297
Obsidian City would be better considering every last Kantonian city is named after a naturally occuring color

>>33453893
I like Obsidian as a name, it sounds ominous, but I still like Shadow Town better. It's not an officially-recognized city, but rather a collection of criminals, outcasts, and destitutes that banded together and cobbled together a settlement underground in the sewers under Saffron, where order is only maintained by the iron fist of the villainous team. It doesn't even have normal shops or a Pokemon center.

It's not a normal town. It shouldn't abide by normal naming conventions.

>>33450358

so weird randomly seeing my own fake map I made like a decade ago...