Changing core pokemon games

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>>33439428
-open world
-all triple battles
-Team moves not limited to Pledges
-Dodge option/trigger
-no more going back to the PC to switch teams
-movesets are customizeable, no more need for heart scales to relearn things
-one-click pokemon center, nurse greets you as you come in/leave like in retail/restaurants
-fuse pokemon to level up if you have too much, or get Exp to share if you release some

>>33439609
Kill yourself.

>>33439609
>-fuse pokemon to level up if you have too much, or get Exp to share if you release some
Fuck you. This is Pokémon not some mobage shit. Discarding Pokémon for XP is as shitty idea and goes against everything Pokémon is meant to stand for.

Have your starter be bought from the casino to seem 'cool' or 'rad' for the sake of it.

Doubles becomes the new standard form of trainer battling, wild pokemon would be still primarily singles

Remove shines altogether and make each pokemon have like 6 potential palette swaps that have an equal chance of appearing instead (nothing too crazy, just slightly lighter/darker tones or reasonable color changes without turning a white pokemon black or something like that. Think pokemon trainer and his alternate colors from super smash bros brawl)

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>>33439428
>pokemon game set in the future where the evil team uses robots and mechs, and pokemon have cybernetic upgrades
>game set in las vegas where you set up your own team and fight for control of the region among a bunch of rival teams
>game based on TCG's holon region that has an emphasis on lore and a theme of new vs old, with unique regional variations

>>33439996
What do you mean by Regional Variants?

>>33440008
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%CE%94_Delta_Species_(TCG)

>>33440008
Alternatively typed Pokemon like Alola forms, which are regional variants specific to the Alola region.
Besides, the concept of variations of preexisting species with different typing, abilities and movesets was pretty much anticipated by fanmade games like Pokemon Insurgence, under the name of Delta Pokemons.

>>33439609
Why would you turn pokemon into a generic rpg

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>>33439609

>>33439609
>-open world
>-all triple battles
>-Team moves not limited to Pledges
>-Dodge option/trigger
I can dig it

>-no more going back to the PC to switch teams
>-movesets are customizeable, no more need for heart scales to relearn things
>-one-click pokemon center, nurse greets you as you come in/leave like in retail/restaurants
>-fuse pokemon to level up if you have too much, or get Exp to share if you release some
kys

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In short, I want the Pokemon equivalent of Sonic Generations.

>Game takes place in Kanto, ~20 years after Red & Blue
>New areas (such as waterfalls and snow north of Cerulean) and changes to old areas (such as the four routes surrounding Saffron becoming completely urbanized)
>Evil team fucks up and portals to other regions start popping up
>One portal per region, where you can visit a famous landmark from that region. The places where portals can be found is thematically linked to where you find them (e.g. A portal in Viridian leads to Lush Jungle, a portal in Mt. Moon leads to Mt. Coronet, etc)
>Due to foreign Pokemon streaming into these portals, all Pokemon can be caught
>Add in a number of new designs similar to a completely new generation, but with only a few completely new monster lines. That means there are dozens of new cross-gen evos (mostly focusing on Gens IV through VII) and Megas (Gens V through VII).

>Dodge
What is protect?

>>33440153
>Due to foreign Pokemon streaming into these portals, all Pokemon can be caught

i don't know why people keep insisting on this. it's a shit idea that makes encounters clustered as fuck

>>33439428
instead of trials and gyms you have to collect Arceus plat for plot reasons from some strong trainers of each type

>>33439996
>new vs. old
Unova already did this, so whether it's a good idea or not, (it is,) Gamefreak won't consider it in the future.

>>33439609
>FFXIII
If you're going to change pokemon into final fantasy at least choose a good one

>>33440811
Unova did it poorly. You literally can't tell if they went for a old/new or natural/artificial theme.

>>33440753
honestly its the main reason i play the modded versions like volt white/blaze black or sacred gold/storm silver

i want to be able to catch everything and i want there to be variation in encounters at each patch of grass

it makes it super fun when doing a nuzlocke as well because you end up with something totally surprising a lot of the times

>>33439428
-Catch your starter from a round of Safari Zone on the Professor at the start of the game, possibly doubling as capture tutorial. This also means you can have a pokemon that's not part of the fire-water-grass triangle, but the game should encourage getting one of the trio by making the others harder to get to.
-Put all tutorials in a side area located near the beginning of the game that's a hybrid of Poke Pelago and Teachy TV. The tutorials are interactive, optional, and can be skipped at any time. They also teach casuals about things the game normally doesn't tell you about like STAB.
-Music customization outside of battle facilities to break up monotony of repeated tracks.
-If your lead pokemon is much higher leveled than a wild pokemon, you can hold B and the fight will begin with a flashy insta-KO animation, ending faster than going through the stock "wild X appeared" spiel. This serves as a medium between using repel as you go through the story and revisiting a low leveled area only to get swarmed by Zubat and Tentacool.
-Interactions between pokemon in your party similar to the flavor text from HGSS following pokemon. You access this by touching a small speech bubble icon next to pokemon in the party menu that will appear if there's something noteworthy, sort of like Miitopia inn-teractions.
-With the advent of ride pokemon, make previously HM-like obstacles require a specific move type to get past and have the rewards be optional evolution stones, TMs, Rare Candy, etc.(e.g. hot coals traversed with water/rock/ground; steel debris melted by fire, punched through by fighting, collapsed by the ground beneath it, etc.)
-Hidden Grottoes and Secret Bases return, intertwined with each other. If you find a Hidden Grotto and claim its reward, you can also put a Secret Base there once it's empty.
-Have a multi battle partner area like DPPt, but have them be the random NPC trainer that you can use right off the bat in Multi Battles in the battle facility.

>>33440983
It's also why XY was shit because unless you autistically combed each route, you'd miss a pokemon just like that.

>>33440153
This sounds like one of those theories about USUM plot

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>>33439428
I want a vanilla style 8 gyms region, but with an emphasis on battle variation.

Single battles are not the 95% norm anymore. We get a huge variation of battle styles:
>single, double and triple battles
>rotation battles
>inverse battles
>Sky and Sea battles with modified rules and restricted access
>options to make battles 1v1, 3v3, 5v5, etc. - no more using six pokemon against two
>battles where things like weather, terrains and/or entry hazards are already on the field
>Other ideas like Little Cup, Double Weakness Pokemon, Mega Face-Off, Single Type challenges

It would add so much to the games.

>split speed into physical speed and special speed
>minor bst balancing
>more storytelling through architecture and aesthetic and less through exposition
>more pokemon that can only be found while certain conditions are met (only appears if you haven't fainted any pokemon while on the route, only appears if you have a poisoned mon on your team, etc)

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>>33441175
>physical speed and special speed

>>33441175
>>33441198
Wouldn't that make mixed attackers even more shit than they currently are?

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>>33439609
You should kill yourself right now, holy fuck

-permanent residence that ISNT your childhood home
-a backyard/farm where you can see your pokemon
-shouldermon for pokemon small enough to hang off your shoulder

I'd love to, whenever I visit my house, watch all my trophy shinies mess around

change how breeding works. Being able to produce infinite amount of eggs is dumb. Make it so that you can only get 1-2 eggs per day per pair of pokemon

add a chance for a pokemon to hatch with a random skill that makes sense but isnt part of its known movepool (some Pichu are born with Surf)

>>33441329
>making breeding more time consuming
It's like you want people to hack.

>>33439609
why GF doesn´t hear fans....

>>33439609
are you 12

>>33439428
I just want a regular pokemon game, with forced double battles instead of singles, just like Colosseum /Gale of Darkness, no more
Mega/Z fuckery, real evolutions instead of shitty temporary bullshit, balanced moves instead of broken overpowered z-moves that completely wreck your set-up, it's already difficult enough to set up something.
>>33441175
Great idea, how about we split HP into physical HP and special HP too? and now that we're splitting stuff, how about we split friendship too? Physical & Special friendship !

>>33441093

>Having more options available is a bad thing.

>>33441342
I want breeding to be rewarding and trading worthwhile again. Make shinies actually valueable again and IV bred pokemon something to really covet

it's all so soulless now. Produce literal boxes of eggs that you toss into wondertrade without a care with 4/5 perfect IVs. Toss out a shiny because it's missing an IV

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>>33439609
>FFXIII
>starts post with open world
>ends with fusion
10/10

>>33441198
It's not that bad in theory. If using a special attack use special speed, if using physical use physical speed.

>>33441175
Your ideas are solid anon. Splitting speed is the shakiest of the three, but it's technically something that gf could use to balance if they so choose. But storytelling through level design etc and unique requirements for Pokémon to be available (though maybe not lockouts) would be absolutely perfect additions. They're kind of standard fare for games nowadays, but still, Pokémon could use them.

I had a half-baked idea about introducing the concept of microbes into the Pokemon world. My idea was that you could raise cultures of them in a minigame and refine a certain number of them into powerful items for your Pokemon.

>>33439609
>one-click pokemon center, nurse greets you as you come in/leave like in retail/restaurants
so wait
>make it quicker to heal pokemon, but also add two unnecesary interruptions every time you do it

why do interesting threads like these get no activity but a genwar thread gets 300 replies

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>IVs now only range from 0 to 10, meaning a stat difference will only be at most 10 points in any stat at level 100
>Simplified Nature system. Remove every Nature from the game except 6, one for each non-HP stat and a neutral one, but the remaining natures only have positive modifiers, negative modifiers are gone
>Nature Ratios similar to Gender ratios, where each Pokemon species has a different bias towards certain natures. For example, Pokemon with high Atk stats will tend to favor an aggressive nature that increases its Atk, where as the same species with a Sp.Atk nature will be very rare.

No trading
No shines
Ni capturing legendaries
Able to battle entieties other that pokemons.
More double battles.
Revorked battle system: there need to be more than 4 moves per pokemon.

>>33443265
just play showdown faggot

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>>33439609
>open world

Fffuuuuuuuuuuck you man seriously you niggers HAVE to stop thinking you want this because I can assure you if they give us an open world pokemon game it's gonna fucking suck I promise you you don't know what you're asking for here. Pokemon just DOESN'T work if it's openworld

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>>33440153
>head through portal to reach Mt. Coronet
>Heading through yet ANOTHER portal to reach the fully 3D Distortion World hidden at the top
>find Cyrus trapped there

My dick

>>33439428
Pokemon clubs, which is just a way for character to try out new trainer classes. Each 'club' has their own story line separate from the main story line(sort of similar to Fantasy Life).

-Photography club
Similar to pokemon snap, you travel around taking pictures of pokemon and people. Each picture progressively gets harder the more you climb the rank of the club, with the final boss being to take a picture of a rare pokemon. There's also bonus stages where you can take pictures of legendaries in the wild, if you haven't caught them already.

-Ranger club
Basically pokemon Ranger. Storyline revolves around your adventures in the various forest of the region. Missions start off small, rescuing lost trainers, making sure campfires are properly put out. Final boss involves a putting a stop to a bunch of poachers who have been hunting trapping, and hunting rare and endangered pokemon.

-Detective Club
pretty much something similar to the Looker quest in X/Y. Except you actually have to gather clues and can possibly mess up a case completely if you guess wrong.

-Breeder/Daycare Club
Taking care of pokemon. Some have major behavior issues, that you have to slowly, and patiently work through.
-Scientist
-Idol
-Clown
So on, and so forth.

>>33443919
That'd be great, especially if they act sort of as "career choices" that give different paths of progression in the game. It could be one of the major things that could make an open world Pokemon game work, since lack of structure would be a big concern. You could have daily quests and such relating to your path, like if you chose Breeder you get quests to deliver a certain Pokemon knowing a certain egg move. This is on top of their unique questlines though.

>>33443938
I can defiantly see it working out pretty well in a non-linear pokemon game, especially now that rental-pokemon are a thing and you don't necessarily need HMs to progress through the game.
But even if they did keep the same structure of a regular game they could possibly do something like having a certain amount of gym badges or something before you can join the club.

Simple clubs like photography can be available from the start. And you can do simultaneously as you progress through the main story.

But for other clubs, you might have to meet certain requirements before you're able to join them.

Detective, may have you already beat the elite four, before they try and recruit you.

Breeder, something like you have to have your pokemon at a certain level of affection or breed a variety of different Pokemon types before the daycare worker offer you the job.

Ranger, beating all the pokemon gyms.

Scientist, recording a certain amount of pokemon in your pokedex, before the professor offers you a letter of recommendation to join the club.

>>33441356
No, it's actually because you can't into apostrophes.

>>33442966
Ikr

>>33439428
I don't want to change the core Pokémon games. I play the core games because I like the core gameplay. I also like gameplay that isn't core, but that's what spinoffs are for. If I want a change of pace or an open world meme game or something like that, I'll ask for a spinoff with that gameplay style.

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>New gen based off Australia
>Open world
>Pokemon League is in center of country
>In order to participate in it, the only requirement is that you reach
>However, League is in the middle of fuck-huge desert, merely getting to it is going to test your survival skills
>Three "survival guages", Hunger, Thirst, and Stamina
>If any of the three completely deplete, you are helicoptered out but all your non-essential crap is abandoned
>There are several ways to increase player's chances of survival
>You can go into the interior little by little by creating caches of items
>Scattered around the desert are Fitness Challenges that challenge you to reach a certain point in a certain time. Completing them does things like increasing your stamina, increasing your sprinting or climbing speed, etc.
>There are also Survival Skills, new skills that can be learned or improvements to exising ones. You increase these by obtaining Skill Badges, which usually require the player to either perform the action in question so many number of times or complete sidequests
>There are also instances where you can gain the ability to summon Ride Pokemon. Some are mandatory to obtain and usually involve a fairly lengthy sidequest
>The coast is heavily urbanized and survival mechanics do not kick in there. Oresent there are Battle Clubs, which are like gyms, and beating them grants the player a piece of sophisticated equipment, like a water filter or collapsable solar-powered motorcycle
>The interior has scattered towns where survival mechanics do not kick in, and whose residents have multiple requests for help. Completing these sidequests can get you rewards, like increasing your Reputation (to make items cheaper or more dialogue options available, etc.)
>You can also cause your reputation to plummet by performing certain actions with massive immediate rewards, like raiding other peoples' caches or helping the Villainous Team

>>33444794
Oh, and...
>Post-game battle facility is a theme park with multiple venues situated in Poke-Tazmania
>Post-game proper is a marathon across Poke-New Zealand against your rivals and other NPCs. Coming in first summons one of the region's Legendaries, but doing so is going to take all of the player's acquired survival skills

>>33443142
10/10, would play. I just think that since you're going so far as to make IVs barely matter maybe you could get rid of them for good. I do get why IVs exist but since there are no consequences to having high IVs it just acts like a high barrier of entry for those who lack the time or resources to be breeding for IVs, Nature, egg moves (and shininess, if you're daft).

>>33444794
I like those but they really wouldn't work in a mainline game. GF would just underuse all that since they don't want the games be that long or involve that much micromanaging.
But a spin off like this would be pretty damn good. And you know which spin off would better use such ideas? Pokémon Ranger. Those games had an awesome concept but the gameplay was just dumb as hell.

>>33442008
And status?

You play as some fucking kid, not a battling prodigy, just someone trying to make a living

Entire game is about money management, trainer battles no longer ante money. In fact there are very few trainers that end up giving you anything. Some trainers will give potions, or status healing items. Pokemon centers cost money based on missing health and status effects. You don't have to heal your entire party at once.

To supplement money, there is side quests like catching a Pokemon for someone (you do not keep the Pokemon after you turned in the quest). Delivering items, Pokedex mile stones, and Pokemon Stadiums where you win money based on how many consecutive wins you get.

As you get gym badges a team rocket type group appears and starts taking over towns. When you get there you find out the Champion of the region has already taken care of the situation. A ton of people applaud, a few people think the guy is a scum bag. Eventually you get to a town that's taken over and you fight it off yourself.

Champion shows up and pays you off after you beat it to say that he did it. This continues to find out the complete corruption of the Champion. When you eventually dethrone him, and become the champion you have a constant stream of income money is no longer an issue. Now you are in Post Game.

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>>33446260
In the post game you start reconstructing towns, and building new areas. You use your new found income to make areas better. Examples, building up the Professor's lab encourages Professors from other regions to show up, and allows non native Pokemon to start showing up. Building also disrupts the natural area as well angering some of the Legendary Pokemon (this is the main way of encountering Legendaries).

Once again the Team Rocket type group will start taking over towns, which you have to defeat or else your income will stop. You encounter the old champion as the new leader of the group trying to coup you.

The word gets out that the old Champion is now in a terrorist organization. Old fans convert, now the attacks are happening more often. The Champ seeks the box legendary basically just to kill you. Legendary starts going on a rampage destroying people homes. You seek it out, if you catch it the rampaging stops. If you defeat it, it fleas and eventually comes back causing more damage.

The more it destroys the more relief funds you have to send to areas affected.
This is the main portion of the game
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>>33446260
>>33446346
New features
Released Pokemon will stay in the route you released them in. Only five of the same species will be remembered, so if you dump all your breedjects into an area you can only find 5 of them. If you release a higher level Pokemon into an lower level area. The wild Pokemon will increase in level.

If you release predatory Pokemon into an area, the hunted Pokemon will no longer spawn in the area until you recatch the Predator. Example, Heatmor drives out Durant.

Friend Safari is back. But with a twist. You release the Pokemon in an area, max 3 at a time. When people visit your Safari they can catch a copy of the Pokemon you released. There is no limitations on this, but you do need to recatch what you put into the Safari to put new Pokemon in.

You can completely customize the Elite 4. But you have to purposely (or accidentally) lose a trainer battle. This includes gym leaders. The trainer takes the place of the highest level'd E4 member, and bumps everyone else down one. Kicking out the first member. You can refight that person in their home town, route, or gym.

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>>33440153
>Nidoqueen is not Nidoran Male's mother

>>33440851
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>>33446442
>Friend Safari is back. But with a twist. You release the Pokemon in an area, max 3 at a time. When people visit your Safari they can catch a copy of the Pokemon you released. There is no limitations on this, but you do need to recatch what you put into the Safari to put new Pokemon in.

So a roundabout way that amounts to trading.
Like is there any point of functionally?

>Playing the pokemon's cry on your Pokedex increases the chances of running into that pokemon more likely when in it's environment
>certain minigames allow for pokeballs that allow you more likely catches if you hit A and B in beat with the ball's shakes

>>33447963
Sounds more like cloning to me.

Custom-made Pokeballs you get to make and use for yourself.

You take blank Pokeballs and can dye them with berries like you do with clothing in SM. You can unlock stickers/decals to place on the outside of the ball, and you can choose the animation you want for when the Pokemon pops out of the ball.

Maybe even add special multipliers for increasing catch rates.

>>33439960
The alternate colors thing is something I've always wish they would do. Fuck you could even keep shinies in and just explain them as super rare colors or something.

>>33439428
pokemon sex simulator
pokemon farm simulator
pokemon shoe store simulator
pokemon farm (but with pokemon as tool) simulator
pokemon school simulator
pokemon mmorp simulator
pokemon inside pokemon playing mystery dungeon simulator, with sex
pokemon breeder simulator

It's not that revolutionary of a concept, but I can't believe we haven't had a 2 region game that changes which region you start in based on what version you buy. They could have the other one be postgame and it would be a good excuse to introduce more than ~80 pokemon in a single gen.

>>33448391
This! I've thought about that before. Or, in one version you start in one city, while the other version, you start in what would be the technical end city for the first version. And basically the adventure for both versions is unique

>>33448493
So if gyms came back, the first gym would be Ice with the last gym being Bug in one version, while the other version would have Bug as the first gym and Ice as the last one.

>>33448493
You'd have to change everything about the region from the events to the encounters. Most games are made specifically so that the more powerful mons are at the end and are usually in type specific locations. Its possible but you'd have to design the layout of the region to work specifically for that concept.

stop dying this thread is interesting

>>33439428

"Levels" are done away with.

All Pokemon come with the equivalent stats of their species at what is currently Level 50, with the usual variations for IVs and EVs and Nature.

You still gain EXP through battling, however now you get to "spend" that EXP on teaching your Pokemon moves and evolving them. So teaching Charmander Ember might cost 50 EXP, Flamethrower 500 EXP, and evolving it into Charmeleon 1000. This would balance Pokemon across their evolutions (ie. if you spend all your EXP on good moves for Charmander it could still be stronger than someone who spent their EXP on evolving to Charmeleon but still only has Ember).

This would allow for multiple playthroughs to be different, even with the same Pokemon. Maybe one playthrough I rush a Charizard, then another I save up for Fire Blast and play the bulk of the game with Charmander. It would open up a lot more strategy and diversity about how you approach raising your Pokemon.

>>33449541
So you basically want skill trees.

Make Premier Balls customizable so you can give them whatever color you want