Why?

>>33421759
>tries to cherrypick and STILL fails
Bruh, no matter how many of these threads you make, SM's artstyle is here to stay, either get used to it or stop watching the show.

And Misty looks miles better, I want to lick her belly

In all seriousness, even forgetting budget, art style....etc, just try to imagine this piece of shit Crabrawler fitting in the top right pic
Pro tip: You can't

>>33421777
haha no

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>>33421791
>>33421791
Nostalgiababbies on suicide watch

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>>33421759

>>33421777
If you are 12 years old no wonder you like SM artstyle

Back when Pokemon meant something.

Now it's churned out garbage made by talentless hacks for little kids and nu-male manchildren.

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>>33421826
This

>>33421759
why are there so many threads exactly like this? are we being subtly spammed? stop making threads like this

>>33421826
>Back when Pokemon meant something

The show never meant anything, it was always just an advertisement for games and toys.

>>33421821
>People who disagree with me must be children
lel
>>33421826
Nostalgiafags are a special kind of cancer I swear
>Back when Pokemon meant something
Nigga the anime was a commercial from the first episode on

>>33421826
(You)

>>33421831
Bored Shitposters who have nothing better to do since USUM isn't out yet, threads like this have existed before but now they're taking advantage of the fact that the anime is celebrating its 20th Anniversary and they decided to bring back Brock and Misty for an entire TWO episodes which apparently means the apocalypse because the original Kanto Season is ruined forever even though this doesn't impact that season at all and it's exactly the same as it's always been.

>>33421836
Sure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't good.

>>33421840
Not a nostalgiafag, faggot. The new games are objectively better but the anime has gotten worse in a lot of ways.

>>33421841
(Retard)

I see no one could contest this >>33421788
Can we finally agree that Gen 7 pokemon have shit designs?

>>33421759
>Why?


The Real-life explanation is different artists and different writers over time.

>>33421759
omg, they're so cute now, sorry, anon, but i'm in love with them

>>33421864
One of them is a artist
The other one is a garbage cartoonist

>>33421862
Yes.

Designs went downhill starting with 3 and died completely starting with 5.

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>>33421875
>a artist

>>33421877
With generation 2 anon, houndoom and Legendary dogs are garbage

>>33421875

Pokemon IS a cartoon

>>33421897
It was an anime until Gen 7

>>33421847
I wish this board became /Mon/

>>33421904

Anime and cartoons are the same fucking thing.

They aren't different mediums, anime is just the Japanese word for animation.

>>33421914
I think what he's saying that older Pokemon looked like an anime.

Now it looks almost like a Western cartoon.

>>33421914
Wrong
Anime is Japanese and generally well drawn (DragonBall, City Hunter, Pokemon pre-SM...etc)
Cartoon is Western and generally shittily drawn (SpongeBob, Hey Anold! The Simpsons...etc)

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>>33421921
>>33421922

Anime all look extremely different from each other you mongolians. "Anime" is not a style.

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>>33421922
>Anime is Japanese and generally well drawn (DragonBall, City Hunter, Pokemon pre-SM...etc)
>Cartoon is Western and generally shittily drawn (SpongeBob, Hey Anold! The Simpsons...etc)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Get a load of this fucking retard
Watch some fucking disney and tell me again that cartoons are shitty
Also, your taste in anime is fucking abysmal btw

>>33421849
It wasn't, and still isn't.

>>33421922
>pre-SM

the most funny is that xy anime uses the same shit backgrounds as bw but i dont see you complain about it

>>33421939
He is spic latino, they like dragon ball so much

>>33421922
Jesus fucking christ

The weeb levels are off the charts with this one!

>>33421942
Whatever helps you sleep at night, I suppose. More power to you.

>>33421826
Could say the same thing about Transformers.

>>33422004
>Transformers
>ever being good
I'm getting too old for this board

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>>33421759
>compares a movie to an episode

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>>33422017
K then, let's compare anime

>>33422017
OP is unable to make a point beyond comparing cherrypicked screenshots, it's really sad

>>33422021
You've posted this same picture a billion times now. Don't you get tired of people telling you that the bottom screenshot isn't objectively worse despite what you claim?

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>>33422021
k

>>33422053
You're aware it looks thousands time better than the Ash in bottom pic there >>33422021, right?

>>33421826
>>33421859
>lacking self awareness THIS hard

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>>33422061
you are aware that every season does this?

>>33422061
It really doesn't.

>>33421875
>>33421904
>>33421922
get the fuck off our board you literal child

>why did they change the art style of my show from "borderline just for children you fucking manchild" to "definitely just for children you fucking manchild"

Faggot.

>>33422085
>if it's for kids it must be shittily drawn

Glad Walt Disney didn't think like you

>>33422090
If anything Walt Disney would have preferred SM's artstyle

>>33422097
Really?
Look at the right part of OP pic
Which one reminds you the most of The Lion King?
Top or bottom?

>>33422090
It's not a shittier art style. It's a more cartoonish art style that makes the show appear even more childish; because it's a show for children, you fucking manchild.

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Stop shitposting about a 22 Minute Advertisement for Children designed to sell the games, toys and other merchandise, which has been its entire purpose since day one but you refuse to accept it because of your jaded nostalgia blinding you to make you think your childhood was the greatest thing ever.

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>>33422119
Keep posting Necrozma pls

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XY vs. SM

>>33422189
Bottom looks like Deviantart shit

>>33422189
I'm genuinely interested as to which one of these is better animated

>>33422195
No it doesn't since the pose is way too complex for the average deviantart autist

>>33422056
Why are all of Ash's friends so cute?

>>33422189
the lower one looks better

>>33422021
I'm pretty fucking sure that first shot is from a movie as well.

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>>33421821
Yeah its like this show is made for kids and not salty 90's kid neckbeards who have to reach hard like OP here to shit on anything different from what they grew up with.

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>>33421759
man japanese animation really went down hill after the 80s, the 90s was just the start. now this.

>>33422632
Enough with the hate, with the banter! Not in front of my tea and its session with me. All accept love! Give in to love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiUp3DpksQY

In time you shall follow...

In time you shall follow...

>>33421759
NO SHADING AT ALL, NOT EVEN TRYING ANYMORE

>>33422189
Those big eyes un xy lol... Bottom looks more human

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>>33421788
Try to imagine clefairy/voltorb/jynx/ditto

Try to imagine lycanroc/drampa/torracat/vikavolt/lurantis/salandit/mudsdale

End this shitty meme and end your life

>>33422859
>that OP pic for the anime thread
Made me laugh

Like wtf my man

>>33421759
Yeah, why does nobody in the upper right pic cast a shadow while the bottom right does?

Because no one gives a fuck about your shitty childhood

Comparing still images of a show that now Focus on motion.

Why /VP/ allows anime n00bs.

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Lillie

>>33424823
Why does /vp/ let people that can't even write a single sentence of grammatically correct English in?

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>>33422074

The anime has always sucked ass but they've just shit up the art style even more. It's ok anon, cartoons aren't real. But video games... those are real and it is worth swearing at other bearded babies about. But I refuse to tell you that both art styles in this cartoon fucking suck.

>>33421826
>Implying it wasn't always meant for children

>>33421759
>Using movie shots as a point of reference

You're like those assdicks who compared decades old Disney feature films to Japanese TV animation make a point about American animation being superior.

>>33424844
Because their a bunch of Mexicans

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>>33421826
It meant something because you were a child and you were bought the shit with your parents money. All those circumstances surrounding your childhood had either dulled out or died off and now Pokemon is to blame because you can't feel the same way anymore from playing or watching it.

I'm not saying it never changed, but whatever did change in the series matters very little to the fact that you were completely unaware that it was a brand. A commercial brand meant to sell toys and make money. If anything, the fact they're throwing a bone to the fans that never stopped buying sort of proves they're trying to give it a soul rather than the opposite.

>>33422107
Walt Disney died way before that movie was even made.

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I started in Gen II so I guess i'd be considered a "gen Wunner" and I have no problem with the new art style. I like that they finally changed the art style. the series was in need of a face lift....and by that I mean more than just changing satoshi's eye color and clothes. The animation is more consistently fluid and the pokemon battles feel more realistic and not ridged like the older seasons. I'm not going to be blinded by nostalgia the battles and animation in the first couple seasons of pokemon were pathetic, so if this change is a way to distance themselves from the early episodes of the anime then i'm all for it.

>>33425726
>I like that they finally changed the art style. the series was in need of a face lift....and by that I mean more than just changing satoshi's eye color and clothes.

Yes, but they could, you know, have improved the quality of Ash's design instead of decreasing it
Notevery change is good to take

>>33425726
>so I guess i'd be considered a "gen Wunner"
Not unless you blindly reject all new generations of Pokémon simply because they don't get your nostalgia flowing.

>>33421759
If you defend the SM anime, you are incapable of not liking anything with "Pokemon™" attached to it. You tautologically have no taste when it comes to Pokemon, because you just automatically like everything.

>>33425736
Well, as an artist myself I have to say, the new design has more personality, XY ash is just generic and dull, like the animation in the show

>>33425876
>as an artist myself

>>33425876
>as an artist myself
Embarrassing.

>>33425876
>as an artist myself
Is this going to be the new defense of this shit?

>>33425832
I know its blasphemy in the anime community to have this opinion but I hate.....in fact I forgot the name of the anime its so generic. Its that series where the protagnist turns into a half monster thing that eats people and wears a leather mask with a zipper that closes his mouth or some shit and he has these "psychic appendages that he uses as a melee weapon. I hated how much the character was a worthless loser in the first season and the second season basically turned into "Bleach" (another series I equally hate) I tried my damndest to get through season 2 but I just couldn't I'd just fall asleep with it on even if I wasn't even tired.

ANYWAY, i hate that series, lol, but I have no problem with the S/M anime. I don't love it, but I don't think its bad by any means.

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>>33421759
Pokémon is not the only

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>>33425876
>if I shittily draw on purpose something I can draw well, it has more "personality"

Modern "artists" everyone

>>33422119
Why then try and tell a story? Just let Ash win everything. The kids will still buy the games

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>>33425876
I'm an illustrator too, and actually I gotta agree with this guy.
We can all agree that still frames of the SM anime look like total trash, but in motion, its bursting with tons of fluidity and personality that the stilted, slower, cardboard animation of the previous seasons lacked. I would actually say season 1 had a BIT of personality by comparison, but afterwards everything felt like by-the-numbers mass produced garbage. Those samey, neutral expressions and poses they always used were safe and easy to digest, but they weren't necessarily "good."

SM's style is really loose, to the point it often goes off model and looks ugly, but in the end its alot more fun to watch, and I praise them for taking the risk to try and do something a little different with the art. The first 3 episodes especially were excellent and it breathed new life into a frankly stagnating anime and series.

That being said, the writing is still formulaic drivel and all the personality the island characters had in the games seems to have been watered down to be easy to digest, but this is besides the point.

Different is not worse, and there's been much worse. Learn to adapt.

>>33422203
Sun and Moon is the best animation by miles compared to the other seasons.

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>>33421759
All this image did was remind me that Misty no longer has her Togepi anymore. Thanks OP. now I'm sad.

>>33426050
This gif shows they try too hard
And so do you

>>33426050
Not even SM looks as shit as what you're full of.

>>33426070
>>33426072
(You)

>>33426059

Getting Togepi was the moment her character went down the shitter though

https://youtu.be/L58j5vs9wBg
People think this animation is better than SM

>>33421759
Lol what kind of comparison is the second one? What did he is an by this? OP is such a faggot

>>33426070
>>33426072
>>33426113

That clip exemplifies what I was talking about. Do you see those damn motion tweens and 3 frame lipflaps? Talk about cheap.

>>33426047

The writers are fully aware that the audience leaves and gets and replaced with new viewers every generation; kids outgrow the show and are immediately replaced with new kids

One of the directors stated this in an interview

>>33426148
Kids don't drop the show the instant a gen ends and then get replaced with a new batch of kids that were counting the days until the new gen started and they were going to begin watching, you moron. Most people currently watching SM watched at least late XY.

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>>33426113
I'd rather have a more static animation with better drawn characters than characters looking like drawn by a 5 years old that keep moving their arms all the time without reasons (like Ash during battles or in that gif >>33426050 ) just because retarded director wants to show that, although he can't draw for shit, he sure can animate arms

>>33426182
Animation isn't Character design

And here we are talking about something subjective. Personally, I dislike both styles

>>33426182

If you care more about art than animation, go read a manga

In animation, animation is more important than looking pretty.

>>33426162

That's the logic the people running the show use though.

http://www.pokebeach.com/2008/07/second-pokemon-interview-with-masamitsu-hidaka-many-interesting-points

>Will Ash ever become a Pokemon Master? He laughed and fell back on the couch. He blatantly said that when Ash becomes a Pokemon Master, the show will end. It will be the last episode. Going back to my first interview, I did not mention that he stated the show was cyclical because it could be the audience is constantly replaced (since children get older and leave, and new children come in), so they are allowed to get away with having the same repetitive goal. So, the show would probably continue the same way collect badges, travel through different regions, never age. Will Ash and Pikachu ever be replaced? No. Will they ever age? No.

They expect kids to outgrow the show, so they gear each series towards a new audience.

>>33422203
XY has the better art style
SM is better animated.

>>33426182
That's like saying you dontn like ghibli's animation because the pigs in Spirited Away are Ugly

>>33425957
I think this was far worse.

>>33421759
Because it's a shit anime, watch somethig better like Boku no hero academia

>>33426231
If human characters in Ghibli looked like Ash in SM and if colors were as oversaturated, I doubt it'd be as popular

Also your comparison is dumb
Pigs in Spirited Away compare to whatever ugly pokemon, not to the MC

>>33426162

They don't expect the kids watching SM to have seen any of XY though.

>>33426212
If you care more about animation than draw style, go watch 3D animation like Shrek
Anime is about both drawing and animation
If you have to sacrifice draw style to animate, it's cancer

>>33425928
tokyo ghoul

>>33426227
Pokebeach is a fucking retard for wasting time asking such a retarded question and deserved every bit of mocking laugh he got for it.

>>33426227
That's not what the post you were quoting was saying at all.
Also, SM is going against what this dude that no longer works on the show said 10 years ago anyway.

>>33426262
Of course they do. It literally just ended.

>>33426262
That's like saying they don't expect the kids watching SM40 to have seen SM5. The audience doesn't get 100% replaced the week the anime switches from one gen to another, you retarded fuck.

>>33425683
It meant something because it was legitimately good and interesting to watch.

I first got the games, then the trading cards. The anime I discovered last. Sorry to burst the narrative you're trying to spin.

>>33426364

Your comparison doesn't work because SM5 and SM40 are part of the same series.

Pokemon XY&Z and Pokemon Sun & Moon are two separate series.

>>33422082
>our board
Hello newfriend.

>>33426419
The people that watched Pokemon 50 weeks ago and the people that watched Pokemon 40 weeks ago are the same fucking people, anon. It's the same core series. People don't magically drop in in droves one week and then get replaced by an equally big replacement drove the next.

By that logic, why would they even advertise the SM anime with trailers shown at the end of the last 6 or so XY episodes?

OS, AG and BW even have their last few episodes set up the start of the next series? Why do they do that? Because the people that are going to watch those episodes airing in a month were the same people watching the episodes that were airing right then.

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>>33426396
The Sun/Moon anime went back to being more character based, possibly moreso than the series had be previously. Not to mention the battles are far more interesting to watch in modern Pokemon episodes as early as Sinnoh or so. Seeing how the point of their cameo may or may not be rematches since neither of them finished a proper Gym Battle with him.

So really, it seems the only thing you're getting hung up about is aesthetics and trying to spin it empirically.

>>33426466
>The Sun/Moon anime went back to being more character based
XY is literally the most character based the series has ever been.

>>33426480
>tfw X and Y was the perfect time to retire ash

>>33426569
I still think Diamond and Pearl would have been better end...if Tobias didn't exist.

>>33425683
And this explanation right here is why all the Kanto pandering sucks. GF, you're not pulling these guys back, you're actually giving them more fuel to hate modern Pokemon. Don't try to appeal to people who will never give this franchise a 2nd glance, it's obviously not appealing to them anymore.

>>33421759
Because you touch yourself at night.

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>>33422056
BROWN EYES RUINED ASH

>"more graphics pls, less fps!!!!"

The animation is better by miles. I actually WANT to watch the show now.

>>33426569

It really wasn't, because then he would have ended up with Shitrena. He deserves better than that.

>>33426480
XY was driven by formulaic "subplots". No one on the main cast had character besides Bonnie.

>>33421849
I've recently watched the OS just to see how much is filler and whatnot and it's pretty alright. You can see a clear quality drop after the first 12 episodes in terms of story progression. It at least slows down but every episode at least has some sort of evolution or thing relevant to the over-all story. I didn't watch the modern anime though because christ I've got better anime to watch. But the OS is pretty alright

>>33421826

imagine being this much of a deluded nostalgia gen-wunner trash.

let me get it straight, you are not a real fan and you never where, you are just casual normie trash.

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Everyone is so desperate to shitpost and find things to complain about, and I'm just glad that they finally started drawing Misty's belly button after all these years.

>>33421759
I still can't understand why they put Misty and Brock in their old outfits, it just looks too weird compared to Ash, but of course, Gen 1 pandering AGAIN.

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>>33425957
prettty much everything does it

>>33421759

>>33426148
What difference would it make if Ash won all the time? None. The kids would still buy the games whether Ash won the league all the time, because they're still doing it with him losing all all the time.

If someone were to drill them with questions from quotes based on questions from their own writing about why they handle Ash they way they do, they'd slip up.


>Why can't Ash win the league?
>HUUR BECAUSE THE SHOW WOULD END.
>You realize that winning the league would not accomplish his goal right? As stated in the last episode of DP, beating the CHAMPION doesn't even accomplish his goal. So, he could win the league and lose to the champion and still travel right?
>B-BUT....MUH LEAGUE SHOW WOULD END!!!

>>33429196
No writer has ever said the show would end if Ash wins a league, it's just a meme shitposters like spouting.

>>33429237
The point still stands. Winning the league does NOT accomplish his goal of Pokemon Master, so why are they too pussy to let him win ONE?

>>33429248
Before XY, you'd have asked "why are they too pussy to let him reach the league finals ONCE"?

>>33429248
The point doesn't really stand when your entire point was "the writers' explanation makes no sense", dude. Just admit you fucked up there.

>>33429248
Considering the show would be the exact same thing and go on the exact same way even if he won, it's meaningless either way. Meaningless if he wins, meaningless if he loses.

>>33429275
They've given no reason why it's taking him so long to win a league. He's been part of the show for 20 years. What is the hesitancy with league wins? And if one asked them on the basis of the statements from the last episode of DP in relation to his goal, they probably wouldn't be able to give an coherant answer.

>>33429290
>Meaningless if he wins, meaningless if he loses.

The league win as actually big, and grants him a trophy. It's an accomplishment. But the lesson the anime seems to be going for no matter how much you try you'll always lose in the big competition? And that people who don't even take the league seriously can beat you (o.e Virgil, and Alain)? Great message to kids.

>>33421759

>cheating by using a movie

take a (you)

>>33429322
Actually, I think the message that sometimes you will lose despite doing your very best is a valuable one for kids. That's life.

>>33429335
See >>33422021

>>33429336
Yep. Take pride in your accomplishments, always strive to be better, but always be aware that no matter what, there will always be someone out there that's better than you. Likewise, "you only lost because this one person decided to compete" is never an acceptable excuse, since it values being recognized as skilled as more important than actually BEING skilled.

These are all solid lessons.

>>33429336
>sometimes

But he's lost every single proper league he's been in? He's more cut out to be a Gym leader since that's the only thing he's comes out with in each region.

Then you have people like Flint who actually beat the league using the same method Ash tires to use (muh friendship) and wins with a Monferno.

>>33429408
He gets all kinds of wins in the actual series, he's just never gotten the big win at the end. And yeah, shit like Flint happens in real life too.

>>33429408
Yeah, but that's the moral right there. You should want to be good, not to just win things.

Think of it like this:
Joe, Jim and Bob enter a tournament. Jim and Bob face each other in the finals, and Bob wins.
Next year, Joe, Jim and Mike enter the same tournament. Jim and Mike face each other in the finals and Mike wins.
Does this mean Mike is equally as good as Bob, or does it mean Mike only won the second tournament because Bob didn't enter that year?

Ash only lost in Kalos because Alan entered the league, and would've clearly won it otherwise. Does this matter? Alan would've still been better than him either way, Ash having a league trophy doesn't change that. That's why individual victories aren't as important as you make them seem.

>>33429420
Those badges might as well be bottle caps at this point, because they're supposed to be a lead up to that big win and trophy, and when you don't get that big win...they're just there.

>>33429459
Nah, badges are shown pretty well to be achievements on their own. Kinda like how winning matches in a real sport are still wins even if you don't win at regionals.

>>33429459
That's not how the world works, anon. Olympic silver medalists are not considered pathetic losers.

>>33429475
Ash gets nothing for being runner up in the league. At least in Football for example, the two teams in the SB get a trophy showing they were the best on their side in their respective championship games.

>>33429508
He still has the badges though. Having all 8 badges of a region is essentially a runner up trophy.

>>33429475
I'm pretty sure they think themselves to be pathetic losers because they weren't able to make it gold. That they were so close to it, and yet it escaped their grip when it was at arm's lengthen. Second place is just being the first loser. When have yo ever heard of someone being happy of being second place?

>>33429520
No. Are you retarded? You are saying that everyone who competes in all the leagues are second placers. No, that's not how it works. The badges are the bare minimum requirement to participate in the league in the first place.

>>33429508
And the moral the show is pushing is that you should strive to be the best, not to be the best in one particular tournament.

>>33429469
And do you think there's ever a sports player that'll be happy with NEVER winning a regional as long as he has "lots of wins" that ultimately never lead up to anything?

Winning the big one is what gives you recognition, not winning a ton of the matches that ultimately are meaningless in the long-run because you can never do the thing the matches are supposed to be for.

>>33429536
Except the tournament is one of the measures the Pokemon World has to designate who is the best.

Maybe they're afraid that if they had him win the league all the time, he'd be stuck in a loop where he lose to the early E4 members over and over again. It actually wasn't until XY where they really seemed vulnerable.


I mean, the process is Badges > league > E4 > Champion.

>>33429540
Dude, not even Ash himself is as booty blasted about this as you sound right now. The world is not all or nothing like that, anon.

>>33429540
>Except the tournament is one of the measures the Pokemon World has to designate who is the best.
No, no, it's not. It's just a gateway to entering the Champion League because the Elite Four have better things to do than fight every little kid and his starter. It's like saying defeating a gym leader is one of the measures the world has to designate who is the best.

>>33429550
Well, of course they cannot show Ash upset at losing.

>The world is not all or nothing like that, anon.
t. someone who has never participated on a tournament ever in his life

>>33429549
I wouldn't want to hear the fandom complain when ASH FINALLY WON A LEAGUE, YOU GUYS! HE'S OUR BOI AT LAST! and then he immediately gets smashed into the ground by the elite 4.

>>33429560
>It's like saying defeating a gym leader is one of the measures the world has to designate who is the best.
Actually, it is. What do you think Gym Leaders are for? To separate the weak trainers from the strong ones that will have a chance at the league. It's to separate the rabble from the gems. And likewise, the league is the same, to find the most precious gems among all those gems.

> It's just a gateway to entering the Champion League because the Elite Four have better things to do than fight every little kid and his starter
Which goes back the to previous point, if the league is not the all-end of everything, what's the hold up with not letting Ash win even once?

>>33429540
The league tournament is literally a tournament to determine which one person gets a chance to challenge the dudes you need to prove yourself better at before you'll get a chance to battle the best trainer in one region in one country in the world. It's pretty fucking low key.

>>33421788
You only can't imagine it because you haven't seen it in an animation or color direction you like.

Any Pokemon can be done interesting enough in the right hands.

>>33429576
Maybe they just don't want to do a champion league arc? I kinda wish they would give him the win just to shut people up. But then those people would probably start whining about how they won't let him be champion.

>>33429575
I think we'd be happy that he at least won the league. But that touches on the issue of the E4 and Champion. For too long they were unbeatable. XY had Alain beating Malva and saw Ash making Diantha, the Champion, sweat.

>>33429576
>Which goes back the to previous point, if the league is not the all-end of everything, what's the hold up with not letting Ash win even once?
The same as the hold up with not letting him get to the finals even once. Had they let him win the league in Johto and started regularly beating several Elite Four trainers before eventually losing ever since, you'd no doubt be sitting here asking what the hold up with not letting him reach the Champion even once was.

>>33429586
The champion league seems short by comparison. Granted they're all 6 v 6 and everything someone has fought them prior to XY they only needed one of their Pokemon to wipe you out, like Cynthia did to Paul and Flint did to Ash. Bertha was sandbagging against Ash, Drake humbled Ash, Loreli destroyed Ash, and Agatha never seemed worried.

>>33429595
The fact of the matter is, the E4 and Champion are much stronger in the anime than in the games.

The fact it took nearly 20 years for a recurring character and rival of Ash to beat just one is pretty absurd.

>>33429642
How many regional championships have you won, anon?

>>33429642
That's because the games are designed to be easy for children to beat while the anime reinterprets them into something a bit more realistic than some kid that hasn't even touched a Pokemon before steamrolling every professional trainer in the region mostly just by spamming attacks over and over.

I like how the one Pokemon Ash had that has ever gave the champion a hard time was immediately released at the end of the region.

>>33421759
Woah, why are Misty and Brocko back?

>>33430199
Only for two episodes.

>>33422056
XY best family

even though Serena is a thot.

>>33430233
Are they rebooted or do they remember their history with Ash?
I think I'll watch em.
most importantly, is Misty still creamin over Ashyboy?

>>33421788
>>33421862
Yeah and imagine farfetch'd in the top right as well
Pro Tip: you can't

>>33422210
I know people put alot of effort into that shit but that doesn't mean it's good

>>33431679
Farfetch'd can be pretty badass
Crabrawler cannot

>>33429408
he's cut out to be a frontier brain. he was literally offered the job