The new national dex book for USUM is 864 pages

>a book with the national dex has more pages than one with only the alola dex

Truly amazing

keep lurking

>>33415489
Does this confirm that the national dex is back for USUM?

>>33415540
No?

>>33415489
>That's very big
for you.

>>33415577
While I agree it doesn't confirm anything, I doubt they will come up with 480 pages of filler

>>33415489
Well, yeah, there's 802 pokémon now. They have a page of paper dedicated to each, with what moves they learn, some dex entries, etc. The other 40 pages are fluff, I'm not sure what's in them actually.

>>33415606

Forms/Megas

>>33415627
Oh yeah, I wonder if alternate and Alola forms have their own page, or if they split them in half.

Maybe there's also a few pages describing moves and abilities. It's been a while since I've bought one of these things.

Typically the National Dex books also include some postgame features too

>>33415688

Aren't those in the guides?

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Here's an example, it's usually not one full page per pokemon so there's lots of leeway room to add stuff

>>33415695
I think it's in both
One of them probably has a quick rundown while the other goes more in depth,

idk since I've never gotten any of the Dex books, but the story guides seem to have everything

>>33415699
What could the other pages be?

>>33415711
nothing

>>33415699
so it is presumed:
> that not every pokemon takes a whole page
>that a pokemon's forms/variants abilities etc are on the same page
Thus 864 pages is plenty for even a national dex and presumed postgame content, no?

>>33415489
why would anyone buy this when all information is more easily accessible on the web?

>>33415711
Concept art perhaps. IIRC where was concept art in the ORAS dex book

>>33415725

Collectors

>>33415719
2 different books. strangy guide and pokedex books. post game would be talked about in strangy guide

>>33415725
Some people like getting a physical thing, you know collector value and all that.

>>33415714
Fuck you delusional nigger

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>>33415742

If anyone wants to see how previous guides are broken down, here's a few links to some older ones

https://www.docdroid.net/h58i/prima-2012-pokemon-black-white-volume-2.pdf#page=14

https://www.docdroid.net/h4wg/prima-2010-pokemon-heartgold-soulsilver-pocket-pokedex-vol-3.pdf

https://www.docdroid.net/h3v2/prima-2007-pokemon-diamond-pearl-complete-pokedex.pdf

The ORAS/BW one lists 2 per page while HGSS lists one per page
(Note the HGSS one is a "volume 3" while the rest and the usum ones are "volume 2's", and Platinum combined both it's guidebook and dex book into one)

>>33415823
then is it safe to assume USUM will have 2 per page since it's a vol. 2?

>>33415881
Probably so
The rest of the guide I'm guessing is going to be stuff like concept art, item and tm listings, etc.
Including all the postgame features the Story guide doesnt list, or goes more depth into
(Keeping in mind, the story guide itself is about 120 pages longer than the regular one for Sun/Moon

Eventually we'll probably get another volume that lists every pokemon in depth with their own pages

>>33415934
Vol 2 DP guide is divided into
>National dex, 2 pokemon per page with their moves abilities evolution etc
>Post game content in detail
>Itemguide, national dex version
>Things to collect e.g. ribbons etc

>>33415601
So what's the next step in your guide book?

>>33415577
It says "national pokedex" right on the cover you stupid nigger

>>33415970
And Vol 2 of HGSS covers:
>The Kanto half of the Game
>Remaining postgame
>National Dex
>Items, attacks, etc.

The link above is Volume 3, which is just dex, but in full detail

>>33415489
you could kill an italian lion with that

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Seems that there might be some new pokemon added in USUM, going by this leak.

>>33416066
dont set yourself up for disappointment anon

>>33416066
In marketing terms, new forms are new Pokemon. That leak could be true and all we get is dorito dog.

Sun and moon pokedex was 301

The pokedex guide book was 384

USUM is 864 pages

>near to a 1000 pages
This is getting absurd

Lipstick in my valentino white bag

>>33415627
Nah it'll be on S.O.S battles and trading Pokemon over from all generations so you can "catch them all" and then it will have a Moves and ability guide

>>33415489
megas and forms have their entries too

>>33415725
Put on my bookshelf so people can make fun of me behind my back, duh.

>>33416066
Prob more alola forms.

>>33415699
I don't know what the limit on Pokémon per page is. Are Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Mega Charizard X, and Mega Charizard Y split across two pages? What about Eevee and its evolutions? If it's "two Pokémon per page side", it would be pretty easy to determine just how many pages would be dedicated to Pokémon and forms. But there are certain Pokémon that don't need as much real estate, like Mega Evolutions which don't need any move information. The same goes for forms that are only aesthetic (Cap Pikachu, Unown, Deerling, Sawsbuck, Keldeo, etc.)

Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur/Mega Venusaur
Charmander/Charmeleon/Charizard/Mega Charizard X/Mega Charizard Y
Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise/Mega Blastoise
Caterpie/Metapod/Butterfree
Weedle/Kakuna/Beedrill/Mega Beedrill
Pidgey/Pidgeotto/Pidgeot/Mega Pidgeot
Rattata/Rattata (Alola Form)/Raticate/Raticate (Alola Form)
Spearow/Fearow
Ekans/Arbok > potential Alola Forms
Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu/Raichu (Alola Form)
Sandshrew/Sandshrew (Alola Form)/Sandslash/Sandslash (Alola Form)
Nidoran-F/Nidorina/Nidoqueen > potential Alola Forms
Nidoran-M/Nidorino/Nidoking > potential Alola Forms
Cleffa/Clefairy/Clefable
Vulpix/Vulpix (Alola Form)/Ninetales/Ninetales (Alola Form)
Igglybuff/Wigglytuff/Jigglypuff
Zubat/Golbat/Crobat
Oddish/Gloom/Vileplume/Bellossom
Paras/Parasect
Venonat/Venomoth > potential Alola Forms
Diglett/Diglett (Alola Form)/Dugtrio/Dugtrio (Alola Form)
Meowth/Meowth (Alola Form)/Persian/Persian (Alola Form)
Psyduck/Golduck
Mankey/Primeape
Growlithe/Arcanine
Poliwag/Poliwhirl/Poliwrath/Politoed
Abra/Kadabra/Alakazam/Mega Alakazam
Machop/Machoke/Machamp
Bellsprout/Weepinbell/Victreebel > potential Alola Forms
Tentacool/Tentacruel
Geodude/Geodude (Alola Form)/Graveler/Graveler (Alola Form)/Golem/Golem (Alola Form)
Ponyta/Rapidash > potential Alola Forms
Slowpoke/Slowbro/Slowking/Mega Slowbro
Magnemite/Magneton/Magnezone
Farfetch'd > potential Alola Form
Doduo/Dodrio > potential Alola Forms

>>33417170
Seel/Dewgong > potential Alola Forms
Grimer/Grimer (Alola Form)/Muk/Muk (Alola Form)
Shellder/Cloyster
Gastly/Haunter/Gengar/Mega Gengar
Onix/Steelix/Mega Steelix
Drowzee/Hypno
Krabby/Kingler > potential Alola Forms
Voltorb/Electrode > potential Alola Forms
Exeggcute/Exeggutor/Exeggutor (Alola Form)
Cubone/Marowak/Marowak (Alola Form)
Tyrogue/Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan/Hitmontop
Lickitung/Lickilicky
Koffing/Weezing > potential Alola Forms
Rhyhorn/Rhydon/Rhyperior
Happiny/Chansey/Blissey
Tangela/Tangrowth
Horsea/Seadra/Kingdra
Goldeen/Seaking
Staryu/Starmie
Mime Jr./Mr. Mime
Scyther/Scizor/Mega Scizor
Smoochum/Jynx
Elekid/Electabuzz/Electivire
Magby/Magmar/Magmortar
Pinsir/Mega Pinsir
Tauros
Magikarp/Gyarados/Mega Gyarados
Lapras
Ditto
Eevee/Vaporeon/Jolteon/Flareon/Espeon/Umbreon/Leafeon/Glaceon/Sylveon
Porygon/Porygon2/Porygon-Z
Omanyte/Omastar > potential Alola Forms
Kabuto/Kabutops > potential Alola Forms
Aerodactyl/Mega Aerodactyl
Munchlax/Snorlax
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite
Mewtwo/Mega Mewtwo X/Mega Mewtwo Y
Mew

And do they try to keep families separated? Like if they started a side with Porygon, would they end the other page with Omanyte?

>>33415725
>all information is more easily accessible on the web?
Must be nice to be a privileged city folk with free wifi.

Pro-tip, those in the mountains rely on third world services which charge hundreds for a service that gives speeds comparable to dial-up with data limits less than a phone. And it it snows or rains, bye bye internet.

The fact that it has this many pages, does it increase the likelihood of there being new Alolan forms in USUM?

>>33417170
>>33417182
Hard to say since I dont own a pokedex book, but it looks like 2 pokemon per page with forms counting as one

So Page 1 - Abra, Kadabra
Page 2 - Alakazam, Mega Alakazam

I'm assuming no matter how forms a pokemon has it's 2 entries per page

The rest of the book varies by game, but most include a guide on postgame content, a list of Items, TMs, Attack lists, Concept Art, etc.

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>>33417182
>Omastar/Kabutops alola forms

Not gonna happen brah

>>33418105
I think it's pretty likely considering ORAS introduced a handful of new Mega Evolutions, a few of which werent even in the Hoenn dex (Like Pidgeot)

Now that the first trailer that introduces the game is out of the way, I'm assuming the next trailer we see will start showing of the new forms