You get to remove one move from existence. Which do you choose?

You already posted it

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>>33412586
Remove the Pokemon too while we're at it

>>33412586
Lol, fuck that,

If they've put me in such a situation I'd be there putting them through such hell they'll never remove anything ever fucking again and put back in all they've taken out for fear I'm right behind them at all times for the rest of their lives.

>>33412586
Fake Out.

You're welcome.

>>33412586
burn chance should be 20%

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The only answer

Seriously? Not one post for Stealth Rocks?

>>33412615
The pose that Incineroar does during darkest lariat showcases just how ridiculous its proportions and build are.

>>33412643
Stealth Rock

Moonblast, OP cancer move

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>>33412615

Stealth Rock

>Gen 8
>New TM move: Icy Water
>Identical to Scald except with a 30% freeze chance
>Every single water type learns it

Protect is the only answer.

>>33412586
stealth rocks

Ice beam. Fuck water types

Ice Beam

Stone edge

Blast Burn

>>33412702
>Not called Ice Bucket Challenge

>>33412750
neck yourself

>>33412738
might as well not exist since it never hits

>>33412721
>nerfing Ice types even more

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>>33412632
>removing the only physical fairy attack

Knock Off.

>>33412709
Detect?

>>33412807
Ice Beam is now 50 power
New Ice 90 power Special move only for Ice types
Is Ice and Water fixed?

Detect isnt a TM that every pokemon can learn. Eliminating Protect keeps the pace of the game moving while hurting a lot of cancerous stall builds. Detect is only distributed to 5-6 pokemon that would even benefit from using it.

>>33412623
Git gud

>>33413076
Protect is a necessity for VGC, before you say anything against VGC, I'm not the one getting mad at stall and switcheroo that makes every game last 40 minutes.

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>>33413056
>Is Ice and Water fixed?
no but he is

>>33412586
Sneaky Pebbels

>>33412615
The move is so bad that they even didn't care to add an actual animation and just used the T-Pose.

I'll go with scald

>>33412586
U-turn.

>>33412586
Trop Kick and High Horsepower. Both moves are just shit versions of already existing moves: Leaf Blade and Earthquake.

Trop Kick has 70 BP and no additional effects, while Leaf Blade has 90 BP and increased critical hit rate. I think that they at least could had created an ability that increases Kick moves power like Punch moves have.

High Horsepower has 90 BP, 90% and can hit one target, while Earthquake has 100 BP, 100%, and hit all Pokémon on battle. At least they could made more Pokémon to learn it through TM.

>>33413271
>Trop Kick
>"Trop Kick deals damage and lowers the target's Attack by one stage."
a guaranteed attack reduction at least makes it unique

>>33413271
>Trop Kick has no additional effects
Jesus fucking Christ anon, you don't even know what the move actually does and you still want to delete it? Talk about hasty.

>>33413271
trop kick lowers attack

>>33413076
>playing singles

>>33413271
>Trop Kick
>The user lands an intense kick of tropical origins on the target
>intense kick of tropical origins


Who the fuck writes this shit?

Sticky Web or Stealth Rock. They're so inconsistent in usefulness but somehow manage to be a NECESSITY for any team to be decent.

>>33413271
>High Horsepower has 90 BP, 90% and can hit one target
it's 95/95 and not wrecking your own shit at 3/4th power makes it better then EQ in most situations.

>>33412615
But he died for your sins anon.

>>33413076
The only things on stall that run protect are mega sableye, which doesn't even have to run it, clefable, and alomomola.
All you did was fuck unaware clef and alo, which could easily be replaced with quagsire.
You definitely did fix VGCancer though.

>>33413076
All they have to do is swap the PP of Protect and Detect. Why the hell is the rarer move the worse one?

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>>33412586
kys kokoloko

Seismic Toss
Now Canceregg can't deal damage.

>>33412615
Literally my moms jesus cat

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The cancer that ruins Double Battles

>>33412586
Earthquake

>>33412750
muffled keks

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>>33412702
>30% freeze chance

>>33412702
Flinch would be better

>>33413232
kek

>>33414718
I wouldnt remove earthquake so much as make it a ground exclusive move. The reason its such a cancerous attack is because its distribution is completely fucked.

>>33412615
Darkest lariat might be one of the best physical dark moves in the game but why did GF think it'd be a good idea to do a half-assed spinning lariat for its animation instead of a regular clothesline? Its not like the move hits multiple targets either so the spinning is completely unnecessary.

>>33413271
>Trop kick
>no additional effects
Every time you use it its a guaranteed attack drop, making it technically better than leaf blade since leaf blade only has a chance of a crit and not a guarantee. Plus trop kick has a decent 70 bp to use it with.

The only problem is that it was given to a pokemon that its terribly bulky to begin with.

>>33412586

Sneaky pebbles hands down

Protect

>>33413271
High Horsepower is for doubles.

>>33412586
Razor Wind

Remove Toxic from the movepools of roughly 80% of the non-Poison Pokemon that currently learn it.

Kinesis
Constrict
Mud Sport
Water Sport
Synchronoise

>>33412586
Bide

>>33412586
You posted it.
The real question is what ability would you remove?

>>33416162
No Guard.

>>33413210
>not Olivia's animation

>>33413271
>Trop Kick has no additional effects.

Try learning what the move does before posting. Fucking takes 2 seconds to look this shit up.

>>33413271
High Horsepower is what makes Snorlax good in Doubles.

>>33416162
Truant

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Feint Attack

>>33412586
Submission or Slam

>>33412586
Recover and its variants(except Roost).

>>33416162

Defeatist/Slow Start/Truant.

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>>33416162

Emergency Exit.

>>33412586
Assuming the removal is retroactive, Wrap.

My child-self with thank me for making Gen 1 enjoyable.

>>33416162
Regenerator

>>33412586
Going by your rules of only one move, I would remove spikes. Many might preffer SR and I completely understand why, but the idea that you can set 3 fucking layers of these things IN TOP OF stealth rock to fuck anything that doesn't fly is just disgusting to me. Both entry hazards shouldn't be allowed at the same time.

>>33417287
I'm with you. If we've only got rocks, webs and T. spikes then it can be managed with team composition. The heavier damage from spikes makes removal necessary for all but the most hyper of HO.

>>33412615

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qO-U5LDT8

Make all recovery moves have 8pp

>>33416162

Run Away.

It should be an auto shed shell ability.

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>Deletes Double Hit
>Aipom can't evolve

Stealth rocks I would say should be remove as it is one meta defining move in singles. Like most Pokemon (most I like) basically are unusable.

>>33412742
t. Ash

Sing

>>33413271
hey guys did you know that trop kick has additional effects
i dont think anyone's corrected that yet

Constict

Toxic

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>>33412615
Oh my god. Do you have to pull this petty shit into every thread? Do something else. Christ

>>33417707
good

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>>33412586
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>>33419979
F A G G O T S

>>33417287
Spikes are balanced by their distribution, though. The problem with stealth rocks is that everyone and their mother learns it. Can you imagine if SR was exclusive to rock types like Aggron? They would no longer be an issue.

>>33412685
Fucking kek'd

>>33413232
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I'll delete Hidden Power for shits and giggles. Now Unown literally has no moves, lol.

>>33412715
They'd just run Blizzard instead. Smogon acts like Focus Blast is the ultimate Coverage Move, and Blizzard is close enough to that, just in Ice instead of Fighting. Hell, it's actually better than Focus blast because you can fix it with Hail. I don't see why more people don't run it, actually.

>>33416162
Anything with the -ate suffix, although if I had to choose just one I'd go with Pixilate.

OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR CHOICES COMING THROUGH, NO OTHERS NEED APPLY

>>33412586
Struggle

>>33416162
Pressure

>>33412586
confuse ray

>>33412709
and its varients because they are the same move, tb.H
>highest priority
>blocks ur path
>two turns of lefties which are also cancer
>poisons, damages, or lowers ur stats
>makes u keep going and crash

>>33422952
probably because ice beam has better damage per round factoring in the miss chance
but you're right, if blizzard scores some good ohkos that ice beam does not, it isn't an awful idea to use it

>>33412586
Ideal mechanics changes
>burn and poison status prevent berry and lefties healing
>burn burns away burnable things like focus sash, Cband, C scarf, Silk scarf, berries
>all fire moves burn burnables
>knock off first removes items, then does damage so Shedinja dies one hit
>lefties has a three turn max
>scald does super effective on steel, ice, and grass, bypasses sturdy, and does 25% more damage to rock and ground types
>sturdy fails vs 4x damage attacks
>8 EVs per point of defence/SpDef instead of 4
>protect or varients is one time use per pokemon
>all status moves put at -1 priority, neutral with prankster
>hold items that replicate abilities' effects
>>take a skill link cinccino and give it a broken shield for a no guard effect, rock blast guarantees hit and hits 5x
>ice immune to grass and flying plus other resistances to be steel 2.0
>ground immune to fire and fighting

>>33423852
A small tutorial on how to absolutely break the game. Good job. Honestly cant tell if you're serious or not.

>>33423852
You lost me at buffing Scald, and everything after that is idiotic and would cause way more problems than it would solve. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>33422795
I completely agree, but that's why I said I was going by OP's rules, otherwise I wouldn't remove any move, just fix their retarded distributions:
>Only pokemon with visible rocky edges on their bodies or pokemon that are literal living boulders should get stealth rock, so clefable, chansey and skarmory (among many others that have no business setting rocks, like Infernape) can go fuck themselves. If you want rocks up get yourself a gigalith or a golem
>Only pokemon with visible spikes or sharp edges on their bodies should get spikes, and in case they're poison types, also toxic spikes. Greninja has neither so it can go fuck itself, protean is enough blessing already. If you want spikes up get yourself a sandslash or a cacturne
>Only bug type pokemon that are weird outliers like shuckle or are directly related with spitting out sticky webs (spider mons, a few worms, pyukumuku even) should get sticky web. This is already pretty close to reality (only 7 mons learn it), so gamefreak did something right for once
>Only somewhat sneaky or ninja-related pokemon get to learn toxic, as it is supposedly an ancient ninja technique. Poison types still learn it regardless, but stuff like chansey or alomomola who are literally based on healing can go fuck themselves
>Scald should only be given to water types that have some sort of geyser/pressurized pump base to their designs. So stuff like simipour, blastoise, volcanion, and maybe sharpedo, the rest can go fuck themselves, even if I love using stuff like gastrodon with scald
>Ice beam (when it comes to water types) should only be given to those that are artic in nature, so dewgong, cloyster, walrein, lapras, wailord, empoleon and a few others I might be forgetting. The rest should handle shit with aurora beam or icy wind and be thankful

I could go on and on but there's no point.

>>33423852
>burn and poison status prevent berry and lefties healing
retarded
>burn burns away burnable things like focus sash, Cband, C scarf, Silk scarf, berries
retarded
>all fire moves burn burnables
change incinerate to a fire-type knock off you fucking faggot
>knock off first removes items, then does damage so Shedinja dies one hit
are you complaining about and trying to nerf a pu shitmon jesus fucking christ
>lefties has a three turn max
congrats you made lefties worse than every hp pinch berry
>scald does super effective on steel, ice, and grass, bypasses sturdy, and does 25% more damage to rock and ground types
change scald to 70 base power and make it super effective against ice types with a 10% chance of burn. like an reverse freeze dry. stop being so complicated.
>sturdy fails vs 4x damage attacks
retarded
>8 EVs per point of defence/SpDef instead of 4
retarded
>protect or varients is one time use per pokemon
retarded. just nerf the pp of protection moves
>all status moves put at -1 priority, neutral with prankster
retarded
>hold items that replicate abilities' effects
>>take a skill link cinccino and give it a broken shield for a no guard effect, rock blast guarantees hit and hits 5x
we already have items like that you fucko, just not for every ability
>ice immune to grass and flying plus other resistances to be steel 2.0
ice does need to be buffed defensively but those immunities make no fucking sense
>ground immune to fire and fighting
are you actually autistic

10/10 bait made me reply

>>33412586
Scal- oh