Pokken dx is gonna be disaster in japan

>>33410763
>When will TPC give us spin off games that people actually care
People spent 20 years begging for a traditional fighting game with Pokémon characters, so they delivered. What the problem?

>>33410786
the game sucks thats the problem very little content. i rather play mystery dungeon

>>33410763
Hopefully that's the only Japanese related disaster this year.

>>33410851
good one

>>33410763

Okay?

Who really cares if it sells better or worse than the Wii U version in one country?

>>33410937
it means no pokken 2 and they can start focusing on proper spin off games again. dude is japan who is pokemon paradise doesnt give a shit about this game. you think rest of world does lol

So glad Xenoverse 2 is dead last.
Also, fuck off hater, buying Pokken day one.

>>33410763
>>33410944

This will just discourage them from making more console based spin offs. And no, just stop with Stadium, Colosseum and Snap. They are never coming back, you nostalgiafags.

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>>33410763
>a port with barely any new content of a game released last year that had little content to begin with isn't gonna sell!

Duh

>>33411040
This. If Pokken flops, be ready for Shuffle 2: Now With More Freemium

>>33411031
xenoverse 2 port has no new content from the ps4 or x box one versions. pokken is port with extra and gonna flop

>>33411040
well pokken wont be coming back either enjoy it while it lasts!!

>>33410763
Nobody bought NuPokken because it's literally a port with Decidueye added. Anybody smart in Japan will just wait for the arcade version of THAT with maybe a new fighter or two like Tapu Koko or something.

The focus on it is so weird especially in Japan, since Decidueye is literally the only addition over there.

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>>33411080
Dragon Ball game will flop HARDER. :)

>>33410944
Pokken doesn't effect spin offs. How dense do you need to be to not see this?

>>33411097
If I was in Japan and had a Switch, I'd consider buying it just for the portability. But neither of those things are true for me so oh well.

>>33411104
xenoverse is anyways. all fighting fans waiting for the superior dbz fighters that switch wont have :')

>>33410944
>they can start focusing on proper spin off
They? So who? Bamco? They don't make any spin offs other than Pokken. If anything a "traditional" Pokemon spin off flopping will only encourage TPCi to greenlight more shallow mobile grinding simulators since that's where the real money is nowadays. You won't get your Stadium 3 or Snap 2 (both of which got HL3'd years ago) like you naively believe but Snorlax Farts and Pokemon: Duel Links with aggressive microtransaction system.

>>33411276
snorlax farts sounds fun. rather play that than this garbage

>>33410763
it must have been upsetting to see your image used for a positive op

>>33410786
that they did not deliver a traditional fighting game

>>33411307
>quietly ignores the uncomfortable truth
Classic barneyfag

>>33410786
>If only it had been capcom


imagine this with blaziken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lwOe5y8gIk

lopunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=varCZo5fHS8

or golurk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GW9UnBdocU

>>33411419
Except SFV is garbage.

>>33410763
didnt japs can play the arcade version?

there's no point to buy a port with only (one) new character

>>33410786
I dont know anyone who wanted a traditional fighting game. I was expecting something like smash.

>>33410763
>When will TPC give us spin off games that people actually care about like stadium, snap or colosseum type game
When it flops, then there MIGHT be a chance they make an actually good game if they don't start with their Gen 1 Nostalgia pandering.

>>33410786
>What's the problem?
Most of Pokken's playable characters are fan favorite characters, and with the time it becomes annoying to always see the same fucking Pokémon. Hell, even the fan game Type: Wild's roster, despite being short (9 Pokémon before C&D), is better than Pokken.

>>33411031
Fire emblem Warriors too, Nintendo is dead lol

>bumping threads made by the guy who keeps spamming pokken hate threads

Why do you guys do this

>>33410799
It's a competitive fighting game,. the entire point is that the replay value comes from you spending time gitting gud in MP. T

>>33411341
Except pokken is a traditional 2d fighting game

>characters's normal hits all have varying frame data and move properties even given the same input, not every character shares the same inputs for normals or for specials
>Attack height system
>Multiple attack buttons/light medium heavies
>Crossups
>Attack block grab trifecta (additionally has focus attacks and FADC)
>Cancels
>Resets
>Basic fundamentals with footsies, mixups, setups, making reads, Oki/wakeup game, neutral vs advantage/disadvantage

The only ways it's any more different from SF and MK etc are from each other is the fact that attacks break grabs instead of grab techning eixsting, and the phase shift system, which is a glorified anti-infinite mechanic

>>33411111
What difference does being in japan make?

>>33412443
>It's a bad thing that most of the characters are fan favorites

How do you not realize how retarded you sound?

>>33412443
>if they don't start with their Gen 1 Nostalgia pandering.

of the 21 characters in the game, only 5 characters (7 if you count libre/shadowtwo) are gen 1.

>>33411080
>xenoverse 2 port has no new content
X2 has all of the X1 content on the Switch actually.

It's essentially the definitive version since X2 should've simply been DLC and balance patches for X1.

Making it a separate game was a rip off. Glad I got it on a large discount because 25 bucks (DLC season pass included) was all it was worth.

>>33412686
>Attack height system
Eh, not really. I wouldn't say there's an attack height system if there's no such thing as high/low blocking.

>Multiple attack buttons/light medium heavies
There's only light/heavy/special.

>Crossups
Literally how?

And with the inclusion of field phase, I definitely would not say it's a "traditional" 2d fighting game.

>>33410786
>What the problem?
Not compatible with the main games, not able to import/export pokemon between the main games & pokken, not being able to win prizes for the main games such as exclusive items, mega stones, ribbons, exclusive clothing, special z-crystals, pokemon eggs, event pokemon, anything, not having at least +800 different pokemon on the roster, every single one with original movesets, that's the problem

>>33412730
it also has 6 gen 4 pokemon even though its way smaller than gen 1

>>33413234
>Eh, not really. I wouldn't say there's an attack height system if there's no such thing as high/low blocking.

There's no height based blocking, but there's still a height system.

Each move has a sort of "defensive" height as well as a normal one in the sense of what other fighting games have,, where some or all of it's active frames are invulnerable to moves of certain heights. So you have the same sort of height mixups and setups in games with height dependent blocking in the sense that you can start a combo that the opponent blocks, bait them into responding with a move that would normally punish the next move you'd be using in that combo since it has iframes for that attack height, but then you use a different move that punishes that one, and that sort of thing

http://www.pokkenarena.com/forums/topic/277-pokk%C3%A9n-height-invincibility-interactions/

>There's only light/heavy/special.
"Specials" in pokken may as well be heavies.

>Literally how?
There are tons of moves in pokken that put you over/past the other character and moves that hit on both sides of your characters, as well as moves that have a long amount of active frames that "lock" you into them, so while there's no crossups in the sense that you cross them up and because back is block it hits them through block, there's crossups in the sense that you can cross them up while they are using a move with those long active frames by hitting them from behind when their attack only has a hurtbox in front, not behind them; or by using move with a hurtbox on both sides of your character to punish them doing so.

>>33413297
>>33413234
To give a few examples of common examples where crossups happen as a weavile main:

One of weavile's best tools is a charged 6x, especially in an oki situation after opponent's hard knockdown, double especially in a corner, because charged 6x pierces counter attacks or moves that have counter properties, and if it connects, leads into fury swipes for huge damage that puts them into hard knockdown again, or if blocked, leads into a blockstring which itself can then kept up with jabs and weavile's other moves with good frame data to try to catc them with another string.

So, Weavile's throw out charged 6x a lot. But since it's charged, you get "locked" into the charge unless you release it, and since the hurtbox is only on one side of you, so if the other person makes the read you are gooing to do out of the oki situation (where obviously they can't without getting hit by it), they can jump over and hit you with a move in midair that can cross you up. If you mis-space where to stand to hit them with the 6x if you are lining it up to hit them on their landing to go into the blockstring, they can land behind you and cross you up that way as well

A similar situation exists when using focus/counter attacks, as this explains: https://youtu.be/IYVrR0kgyAA?t=154

no one cares about pokken dx. people more excited about VC of gold and sliver releasing same day

>>33410763

Pokken is cool but it should have had a bigger roster. Most fighting games have 20+ characters. Pokken DX is what should have come out first.

They could have also went the more Street Fighter route like Pokemon Type Wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkUARaP4RFg

I hope that it sells well and continues on as a fighting game franchise.

>>33414775
>Pokken is cool but it should have had a bigger roster.

Most fighting game series start out with only 8-10 characters. 16 is well above average, even Street Fighter 5 only had 16 characters at launch

>>33414775
i highley doubt theres gonna be pokken 2. this is gonna flop so bad. lack of content and pissing off fans with pokemon direct also being full priced

>>33415016
Yeah, just like Pokémon conquest, a sequel never ;-;

Xenoverse 2 has surpassed pokken dx now

Wow that's embarssing. Huge flop