I liked the grid-based maps and movements more than what we have now.

>>33392864
Why is alot of /vp/ obsessed with old things that got removed? /vp/ would be mad about the note 8 because it removes the explosion feature and claim it was better with it.

same

>>33392864
I don't. I wish Pokemon games looked like Ocarina of Time, that sort of camera, movement, and level of model detail.

>>33392889
>gamefreak add new thing shittily
>wow why does /vp/ prefer the old thing

That's a really weird thing to get attached to. Pokemon has gotten worse in so many huge ways, but that is not one of them.

SM's free 3D movement is one of the best things about it, too bad they weren't interested in building an actual world you can have adventures in so they made a waifu simulator visual novel and put blockades and teleports everywhere on the map instead.
Sometimes I want to burn GF to the ground.

>>33392864
This, I'm lost as fuck trying to navigate through the hills and shit of fucking SM

>>33392901
whats wrong with free mevement?

I like the new One of the things sun and moon got right

>>33392864
Look at those beautiful colors, almost as good as G/S/C color palette.

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>>33392923
>He got lost in a corridor
And even if you actually are this dumb, you could just look at the lower screen anyway.

>>33392937
nothing

shit, I wish GF added something like that to SM

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>>33392923
How the fuck do you get lost in SM? Are you fucking retarded?

>>33392889
Hahahahaha haven't heard that shitty joke before

>>33393148
Thats exactly whats in sm though

>>33392937
no dpad controls
also you have to press a to open doors which is stupid

>>33394626
>no dpad controls
>when the circle stick serperior
pixel graphics are done for,grandpa

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>>33393148
genuinely kekd

>>33394321
pic related

>>33394644
using the dpad is more comfortable and less awkward to me than the circle pad

It's not grid movement that's good, it's the camera giving you a better scope of the area

>>33394687
gen 6 was good that you could still use the dpad to move while gen 7 took it away altogether

>>33394687
GF is not to blame of your shitty life

watch, people are going to complain about no lag,saying that the lag added to depth of the battle

>>33394812
cant wait to se this thread when gen 7 comes out

>>33394816
gen 8*

>>33392864
The grids were good for puzzles, and for trainers' line of sight and things.
It sucks that trainers don't approach you any more, they just shout. I guess it makes more sense since there needs to be space between you to send your Pokémon out.

>>33392864
I don't even know if I will ever play X and Y and all that but I'm not super crazy about how it looks.

>>33392864
No, this is enough, fuck off.
There were at least 50 daily threads about the pure anger because of XY being grid based.
Unironically kill yourself, yes I'm mad.

I quit this board, it's enough, it's gone to the absolute shitter the very day XY got announced in January anyway.

>>33394937
Do it
If we can agree about something is that this board is shit

>>33394937
it's true that /vp/ fucking sucks but only because there is literally nothing interesting to talk about.

>>33394644
Dpad > Analog stick in certain situations, anon. I just wish Smash Bros. would let me use a Dpad... it's way more responsive than the analog stick. or better yet, use the Neo Geo's flat analog stick thing. That would be perfect.

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>>33392864
We could have had more

>>33392864
It's easy to think that because GF already has experience in grid movement but given enough time the 3d will be just as good.

>>33392864
I'm inclined to agree but only because the maps in SM were absolute shit and not as interesting as the games with grids.

>>33396841
why is gamefreak so incompetent?

>>33396841
Even a spinoff had following Pokemon. Jeez GameFreaks, get it togethur!

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>>33392897
>OOT
>model detail

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>>33392923
>I'm lost

>>33397059
Cause they know that their western cash cow would just gobble everything with the word Pokemon on it.

>>33396841
Remember when Pokemon spinoffs weren't mobile filler?

>>33394626
No dpad is just a result of them being retarded because they obviously had to back port from the Switch to rush them out instead of waiting (probably because Nintendo was at them crying about not having anything for the 3DS when they were about to make the jump).

This is one of several things that tell us this because it was obviously meant to be on the broken dpad on the left Joycon. Another being the dex having always been based on the system when the Rotomdex is a wide single screen tablet. A wide single screen tablet doesn't exist in the 3DS family but it is precisely what the Switch is. This also explains why the lower screen basically does nothing - there wasn't originally intended to be one in them.

Most PC games use analog controls but you can use a dpad just fine. In fact, that's what I force all PC games save a couple (basically they have to have too many controls to make anything but keyboard not make sense) to do. And if they don't have the option themselves then I pop open a program that can make them do it or at worst force the game to recognize my button presses as keyboard presses.

Dpads are more accurate without question and do not require grids to be usable. The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth/Afterbirth/+ for example... It can use both on PC and consoles since you can set what you want for controls (whyever this is not standard on ALL games yet, I've no idea) but why would you use analog control when the dpad is superior?

You wouldn't unless you don't like tight accurate controls or are just retarded (come to think of it, maybe that's why so many people think TBoI is really hard it can certainly fuck hard you with the RNG at times but it's not hard in general).

But I somewhat digress. TL;DR No dpad is just them removing something instead of making it an option making the games worse for it. AGAIN.

Pretty sure their fuck ups just from removing instead of "optionalizing" are getting to be somewhere near the number of Pokémon.

>>33392901
shut the fuck up retard

>>33397300
>>33397300
FUCK OFF SPERG, get over it, free movement is for the joystick not the fucking d pad you stupid piece of shit.

>>33392889
The things that /vp/ complain about being removed are things that /vp/, or at least a part of it, liked.
The thing that you listed as an "example" or comparison is something nobody of /vp/ would like. Well, perhaps the muslims would.
Nice reductio ad absurdum by the way, 3/10 you tried.

>>33397059
>>33397080
>>33397289
>Better map design
>Actual Puzzles for getting further in the game
>Better field moves
>Sprites for every pokemon
All they needed to do was implement the structure of mainline games with parties and trainers. Pokemon Ranger could have been the standard for the look of a pokemon game and they could have improved on that already near perfect look. But they didn't.

>>33392889
>Old game has good feature
>New game forgets feature and is overall worse than old game
>Complain
It aint hard

>>33397318
>free movement is for the joystick not the fucking d pad you stupid piece of shit.
t. Nigga that never played MMBN

>>33392864
Just when I thought /vp/ couldn't get any dumber, they want grids back
Oi vey

>>33392864
The old games have level design and stuff, the newer games just have a simple corridor with no exploration or anything like that. GameFreak would be able to add more content to their games if they didn't spend their time improving graphics. Also, why do they have to shit out a new game every 2-3 years? It's like you're all asking for the games to be rushed. They'd have better games if they had more time to make better games and not rush shit all the time.

>>33392889
That's why all /vp/ complains that we have separate Special stats, infinite TM use, physical and special split, and other things.

>>33399011
Gamefreak literally only cares about making money and aims to market off the mindless mobile app crowd. I don't understand what fucking mainline videogame company would choose to do this.

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>>33399211
This franchise is doomed.

>>33392889
>Why is alot of /vp/ obsessed with old things that got removed?
Compare the Rotomdex, to the old bottom screen and you'll have your answer.

>>33392864
Graphics r fucked in this game, why is they so bad?

>>33399292
They didn't even make it a fucking Poketech. But I guess they have to leave out something to make Ultra Sun/Moon feel like an expansion.

>>33399011
>GameFreak would be able to add more content to their games if they didn't spend their time improving graphics


Why not both? seriously the only thing stopping them is their ineptitude. as soon everyone realizes that they are a bunch of hacks it is going to be better.

>>33399373
Graphics r shit

It worked very well with the old Pokémon games but it wouldn't fit the direction the series is taking now.

>>33399398
Graphics and gameplay both matter

>>33392923
t. Lillie

>>33399398
No I mean the graphics in the game are shit , they're terrible

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>>33398683
8-directional movement =/= free movement

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>>33392923

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>>33392864
I agree. Gamefreak doesnt k ow how to design a region that's not grid based and they have gotten overal worse ever since we slowly drifted away from it in Gen 6 until now