ITT: making pokemon better competitively

>>33389318
Give it +20 special attack and +10 speed

Give it HA Drizzle??

>>33389338
oh god

>>33389338
>>33389370
That's dumb, Ludicolo's main gimmick is SS

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>>33389338
>Losing out on it's best tools for mah Drizzle
No way, man. Ludicolo just needs better stats. Give him a little more bulk and Sp.Atk.

>>33389318
More bulk or better recovery

Quiver Dance and Petal Dance

>>33389373

It's main gimmick is dancing, and has two abilities related to rain. Might as well give it a third rain ability

>>33389318
quiver dance

>>33389538
Ludicolo now gets access to all dance moves, what tier is he?

(gets him additional access to quiver dance, dragon drance, fiery dance, feather dance, lunar dance, revelation dance and petal dance)

>>33389587
Stays NU but still has a niche in rain teams like it always has

>>33389318
>base 70 attack with Swords Dance
>great physical coverage with ice, fighting and fire punches, give it leaf blade and aqua jet for better STAB
>Huge Power

>>33389318
Give it a nice bst buff in the same vein as corsola and masqerain.
+20 HP/Defence. Far bulkier now, can pull far more bullshit.

I like the idea of giving it the dance moves but it probably isn't enough. I think it needs some more utility to go with its decent defensive potential. Rapid spin, Taunt, Roar/Circle Throw. All great starting points there, it already has recovery. Not much can actually switch in either since you can never really be sure it's not packing one of its coverage moves, of which it has obscene amounts.

>>33389318

Swap out its HA (Own Tempo) for Dancer.

Dancing is its theme, so give it Quiver Dance (Lilligant and Bellossom learn it, so why not).

>>33389463
>It's main gimmick is dancing
HA Dancer might be fun for doubles. Pair it with a Quiver Dance mon.

>>33389729
That's still shit though. There's a reason you never see swords dance Vileplume or Bellossom.

Quiver Dance makes it a good rain check (and punishes Pelipper; +1 Rain Hydro Pump is 100% after Stealth Rock), but without a good stat boost, it's still going to suck, unfortunately.

Give it a Mega with the Ability Simple. Add Quiver Dance to its movepool.

>>33389318
Can we just get another grass/water pokemon that has a less stupid design? I dont hate ludicolo but its definitely an acquired taste...

>>33389318
Primordial Speed (primordial sea + swift swim in one ability)

>>33389318
Give it a life orb and set up with rain dance. Welcome to way more OHKOs than anyone expected.

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>>33389318
give it a signature move: MUY CALIENTE

Grass type, but it do double damage to steel, ice, grass, bug.

>>33389336
bump

>>33390534
That would be an absolutely massive buff. Too massive probably.

>>33390634
>CALIENTE!

>>33389318
Alolan form Fire/Grass

>>33389318

Item:
Leftovers

Ability:
Rain Dish

Moveset:
Ingrain
Aqua Ring
Rain Dance
Surf