>dugtrio is only good because of arena trap + speed
>remove both in exchange for BULK (still super frail), steel typing, and a shit signature ability
Did they want this thing to fail? It's the only Alolan form that's worse than the original. They could've even taken the volcanic rock thing in a different direction and made it ground/fire type with the same stat redistribution, which would've been a solid side grade.
>>33386942
Alolan forms were a mistake. Especially this fucking joke
>>33386954
Hey I like Alolan Muk
>>33386942
>It's the only Alolan form that's worse than the original.
>what is Raticate and Exeggutor
I guess I can't blame you, no one remembers they exist
>>33386971
they are better, though. Not by much, but better than the originals. Do a little research.
>>33386971
>he hasn't played NU
Both of them are great there, especially A-Raticate. The originals aren't even viable in PU.
>>33386974
I'll give you exeggutor but not raticate.
>>33386997
it's considerably better. Raticate wasn't outspeeding much anyway, and it always got one shotted by fighting type attacks, so being normal/dark is a straight upgrade because of sucker punch.
Like the other anon said, it's good in NU and PU, whereas old raticate isn't good in either.
>>33386958
added dark type? big fucking woop
>>33387036
get a load of this shitter
added dark type turns one of his weaknesses into an immunity, so only one weakness now
STAB knock off
its pretty good, good enough to warrant using it over regular muk
>>33387036
It's in OU, you know
>>33387079
no it's UU.
>>33387060
>>33387079
Still a fucking lazy ass uninspired bullshit design
>>33389067
It was always that, but the Alolan form improves on it
>>33389169
>literally talking about polishing a turd
>>33386942
>implying they give the SLIGHTEST fuck about competitive
>>33389067
Uh, have you SEEN the original? Ugly or not, at least Alola Muk has some kind of basic design theme going for it.
>>33386942
I don't mind it. If they wanted to make it better they could have just given it a mega. I appreciate that not all new forms make the old ones obsolete.
>>33386997
>Implying
A-Raticate is an excellent user of the Dark Z-crystal and Dark STAB makes it less walled compared to the base form. It's a step up.
>>33389548
the crystal you're looking for is normalium, z hustle double edge with 100% accuracy is real nice.
>>33389577
isn't darkinium better for the steel and rock types?
>>33389599
it depends on the team, but yeah, usually darkinium z is better.