>No physical equivalent to Hidden Power yet Why is this allowed?

>>33383258
>Secret Power isn't a physical Hidden Power

Technician Scizor

Maybe GF would consider it a balance risk since most technician users are physical attackers. Imagine Scizor with a 90 BP ground move, would shut non Balloon Heatran's that are coming in to counter it.

>>33383258

Probably because physical attackers already have wide movepools filled with accurate, hard-hitting moves

>>33383295
Lol. Most non-humanoids without punching hands have fucking terrible move pools.

>>33383279
like Superpower already does? lmao

>>33383279
Yes, that would be a good thing

>>33383258
There is. It's called Natural Gift.

>physical hidden power ground scizor

yes please. Fuck Heatran and Magnezone.

>>33383392
>Scizor's Attack fell!
>Scizor's Defense fell!
Sure you lose out on the immediate benefit of a 120 BP attack, but you gain more from a 90 BP attack over time without a drawback and more PP in the long run.

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>>33383473
Eighth post best post.

>>33383258
HP shouldn't exist at all

>>33383568
HP should be an Unown exclusive move.

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>>33383473
>one-time use in battle
>consumes berries in story playthroughs
>have to sacrifice item slot entirely

>>33383266
>strage dependance is equal to IV dependance
at least secret power would affect it's type with terrains like meteorball

>>33383616
>>one-time use in battle
The majority of the time you only use it once, to nail the one counter.
>>consumes berries in story playthroughs
Fuck off this is such a non-complaint since it's competitive-centered. You wouldn't use HP in a playthrough either since you don't have control over your IVs.
>>have to sacrifice item slot entirely
It's a tradeoff for power. HP caps at 60, 90 with the occasional Technician mon, while Natural Gift can hit 100. Natural Gift has SD's wide distribution bolstering it while Hidden Power has just CM and the rare NP.

>Scizor goes back to OU
>Mega Scizor is Uber
Yes

>>33383258
>Suddenly, Lando is even better now

>>33383279
Just make Hidden Power and the Physical version have 70 bp like before

>>33383258
>also no normal or fairy hidden power

>>33384555

Most things that need Fairy coverage have Dazzling Gleam

>>33383258
>there need to be physical and special versions of every move
Get stuffed.

>>33383258
Because kyurem black needs to be bad forever to fulfill the meta prophecy

What would it be called? Inner Strength?

>>33384644
Hidden Strength? Hidden Force?

Because adding symmetry to everything makes the game less interesting.

>>33383473
>Natural Gift
For the longest time I always thought Natural Gift was classified as a special move. It probably didn't helped that the animation for the move had this "special attack" feel to it.

>>33383653
>You wouldn't use HP in a playthrough either since you don't have control over your IVs.
The funnest part in a playthrough is throwing Hidden Power on random mons and seeing what they get.

>>33383318
Example?

>>33384815
Wow, Pokémon mustn't be very fun then.

>>33384604
>252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Hidden Power(Physical) Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 198-234 (58 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Subzero Slammer (200 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 439-517 (128.7 - 151.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Eh, a Banded set would have more toys at least. Z-Freeze Shock is still more reliable for wall breaking though.

>>33383258
Hidden power should run off of the user's highest offensive stat but always calc off of the target's special defense so that it doesn't become excessively good. Chansey and other less-cancerous special walls can still somehow tank HP regardless of it coming from a higher Atk or SpA.

Moves like Jugdment and Natural Gift should also work like this in my opinion. Nature power should call a physical or special move of a type depending on the user's highest offensive stat (for example, using it under misty terrain will become moonblast with SpA>Atk or play rough with Atk>SpA).