ITT: Moves/Abilities that Pokemon don't get but they should

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>>33375702
Sandygast and Pallosand
>literal sand monsters
>lore is that they burst from underneath the sand to capture prey
>don't get Arena Trap
>don't even have Sand Stream or Sand Force
>Sand Veil is a HIDDEN ability
>regular ability is a gimmick ability because lol sand castles but it sucks

Also

Golurk
>imposing presence and one of the coolest designs in Gen V
>all of its abilities make sense: Klutz because it's an automaton, Iron Fist because big fists, No Guard because it's fuck huge
>but it should really get Huge Power (its big) or Pure Power (its a golem)
>giving it the ability Weak Armor, Shields Down or the move Shell Smash sort of make sense on it considering its a vault of spiritual energy locked inside a clay shell
>any of these would help it immensely and give it a good niche
>also its signature move in Gen V didn't even match its typing
>doesn't learn its one joke move, Fly, by level up
>moves that make sense on it being an energy powered golem, like Drain Punch and the elemental punches, are locked to being tutor moves in Gen VI
>shit, it actually makes sense for this thing to learn Meteor Mash, Bullet Punch, Mach Punch, and even Ice Hammer but it doesn't
>you have to run moves like Rock Polish to give it any sweeping potential...
>Golurk will never be the true hulking big robot friend it's supposed to be because it doesn't have enough options, enough power vs power creep, and its speed is terrible

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>>33375702
>Zygarde 100%
>Power Cuckstruct instead of Aura Break, what a shame. Sad!

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>>33375782

>Huge Power on a Pokemon that already has base 124 Attack

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Arena Trap

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>>33375782
>>Huge Power on a Pokemon that already has base 124 Attack

>Rhyhorn is a rock type that uses its head to to smash into things
>Doesn't learn Head Smash

>Audino and Mega-Audino are heavily associated with nurses
>Didn't get an ability retcon to Triage

>>33376749
Not that bonkers.

Golurk has base 124 Att, caps off 381. That becomes ~760 Att. with Huge Power

Many Megas and Legendaries (and Aeglislash) with Att at base 150 or higher naturally can max out their Attack from 438 (anything with base 150) to 526 (M-Mewtwo X). This doesn't factor in Swords Dance boosts.

Giving Golurk over 700 Attack is insane, yeah, but it fills in a nice niche of it being a Pokemon that doesn't need to boost, use items, or Mega to have incredible Attack. It would also be balanced by its low Speed and mediocre Defenses. Golurk could maybe get off one attack before being KO'd, to be honest, even with the boost from Huge Power.

Aurorus doesn't get aurora veil.

>>33375782
>Golurk with Shell Smash, Huge Power, Meteor Mash, Ice Hammer
>all of its abilities fit... b-but it deserves Meme Power!
I like Golurk too, but shut the fuck up.

>Cranidos and Rampardos have heads made of rock as the central component of their designs
>Don't have Rock Head

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>>33375702
>Literally a prism that refracts light
>doesn't learn Dazzling Gleam
Dazzling Gleam is even a TM so there's no excuses.

>>33377047
>Gengar gets Dazzling Gleam
>the literal light-based Pokemon doesn't

>>33376858
>trap a pokemon
>it kills you with rock smash

>>33377054
really activates the almonds

>>33377080
Hopefully it'll get it in USUM. I remember complaining that Delphox didn't get Dazzling Gleam and that Hoopa didn't learn Nasty Plot, but ORAS fixed both of those things.

>>33377108
It'd also really help Necrozma because right now the biggest problem it has is that it has jackshit against Dark-Types.

>>33375702
Things that can't learn Earthquake:
>Absol
>Kyurem
>Hoopa-U
>Reshiram
>Zekrom
>Xerneas
>Yveltal
>Entie
>Arcanine
>Silvally
>Palpitoad
Thing that can
>Chansey
Fucking why?

>>33377383
don't forget the doggos

>>33377383
Gen 1 movepools were a mistake

> Lycanroc doesn't get Earthquake
> Mightyena, the literal Bite pokemon, doesn't get Strong Jaw.
Linoone, the Rushing pokemon, can only get extremespeed through shitty events and gimmicks.

WHY DOES GAMEFREAK HATE ROUTE 1 SHITMONS GODDAMNIT

>>33375782
Fly isn't a koke move

>>33377452
Dude, they're fucking route 1 shitmons, what do you expect?

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I have no idea why Noivern doesn't get Aerilate

>The only dual flying type to have flying be its primary typing
>Has boomburst which would have essentially made infiltrator redundant
>Pokedex says they are solo night hunters
>Frisk/Telepathy for no fucking reason

tfw RU 5ever

>>33377596
>Aerilate Boomburst
Are you insane anon? The only Pokemon that have Aerilate are Megas (Megas of mons that don't have many flying type moves at that).

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>>33375702
Wait...
>Luxray
>Pokedex talks about its x-ray vision
LuXRAY

>>33377080
Really stimulates the prostate

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>Rampardos
>Sig move has massive recoil
>Has a head made of rock
>No Rock Head
boggles the noggin

>>33377641
oh shit

>>33377596
>Aerilate Boomburst
Play a match of AAA and see how broken that is

>>33377483
> what is fletchling

And don't say that it isn't route 1 in gen 6 because route 1 is literally a straight route.

>>33375702
>Tons of biting moves
>doesn't have Strong Jaw

>>33377828
Smogonbird is an exception to the rule, that doesn't mean you should expect every route 1 shitmon to git gud.

>>33377073
>trap pokemon without rock smash
>set up rocks, taunt
>metal burst makes you the worst possible version of wobbuffet

>>33375782
>Pure Power because it's a golem
The Japanese name for the move is "yoga power

Also it can't get Huge Power because there is absolutely nothing you can do to make a rice ball pun with a golem.

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>>33375702
>supposedly can spit acid
>can't learn the move Acid, or any Poison moves by level up

>>33378100
Neither can Incineroar. Even despite the "Asian mist" move seen in the Incineroar ref sheet

>>33375702
>Ponyta and Rapidash don't get Fire Lash or High Horsepower.

>>33377383
I get Absol. The joke is that everyone THINKS it causes natural disasters, when it tries its hardest to prevent them.

It being able to learn Earthquake would ruin the joke.

>>33378100
>Hoodlum Pokemon
>Doesn't learn Sucker Punch
>Doesn't learn Beat Up
What the fuck is this?

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>>33377641
Fuck

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I'm honestly retarded so please explain why its okay for a pokemon with 135 or 155 AT to have Aerilate with moves that have a base of 120 or 102 but not okay for a mon with 97 SpAt with a move with a base of 140

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>based on a fish that uses spikes to defend itself
>does not learn Spiky Shield

>>33378038
huge power is Muscleman in japan. What does that have to do with Onigiri?

Also, Glalie IS a riceball pun and doesn't have huge power.

>>33377668
This one always bothered the shit out of me too

>>33378038
>>33379097
And how do Azumarill or M-Mawile having Huge Power make sense? If it really is called "Muscleman," it should go to Machamp, Conkeldurr, and other Fighting-type mons.

>>33378764
Didn't think of this one, but yeah... that is strange. Maybe because Spiky Shield is a Grass-type move and only the spiky grass things get it (and Togedemaru...)?

>>33378517
I think it's because Aerilate adds a damage bonus, Boomburst would still get STAB, and Noivern is both fast enough and has decent enough SpAtt to abuse it well, better than M-Salamence (who IS broken anyway, if you forgot). Also, there aren't as many Special Walls in competitive to my recollection. And anything that resists Flying tends to by physically oriented (Steel or Rock) or something that could just kill your Flying type (Electric). A strong special Flying move would be decent against all of the Steel types out there, who tend to have cruddier SpDef.

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>>33379097
力持ち - chikaramochi

It can mean "(one who) has power" or with the other kind of "mochi" is a cake made from pounding stickyrice into a paste. You may have seen the production of this confection in new years episodes in anime.

Strongman interpretation makes sense on M-Mawile and Diggersby because of the oversized and powerful appendages on their head. None of this explains why Azumarill has the ability, however, which is especially weird given it was the first recipient.

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Nasty Plot

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>>33375702
>Zorua and Zoroark having Illusion, but not learning Transform or getting Impostor as a hidden ability
>also Reflect Type and Camouflage kind of make sense on them but they don't get either move
>learning Assist would actually be kind of neat and make sense with their lore / flavor, as well as helping with Illusion
>even if it might be broken, learning Sketch just once would be neat to see on them as a gimmick and supplement to Illusion

>>33379335
to clarify, chikara means strong/powerful regardless of which form of "mochi" you append.

So it would either mean "has power" or "power(ful) ricecake"

>>33379374
Assist would be obvious the moment you used it because it would say "used assist" THEN does the other move.

That said, it's more of a cat than infernape, so I don't see why it shouldn't get it.

>>33379335
>None of this explains why Azumarill has the ability, however, which is especially weird given it was the first recipient
Oh that's simple, it's because Japan has a popular tale about rabbits on the moon pounding stickyrice to make mochi, it's also why Azumarill is a Fairy.

>>33379335
it`s said that bunnies make mochi on the moon.

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>>33375702
Nearly all of the Gen VII signature moves (because there's a ton) would make sense being spread around on other Pokemon. Going to give a reasonable example or two for each. Also threw in one more move because it bothers me:

Spirit Shackle
>Spiritomb

Darkest Lariat
>Machamp

Throat Chop
>Primeape

Sparkling Aria
>Milotic

Beak Blast
>Moltres, Talonflame

Ice Hammer
>Beartic, Avalugg

Revelation Dance
>Bellossom

Pollen Puff
>Florges

Accelerock
>Aerodactyl (might make it too good?)

Baneful Bunker
>Dragalge

Strength Sap
>Parasect, Shedinja (worth a laugh)

Solar Blade
>Virizon

Trop Kick
>Hitmonlee

Floral Healing
>Meganium, Cherrim

Instruct
>Alakazam

First Impression
>Escavalier, Rampardos (Jap name for move is "Head-on Collision")

Shore Up
>Regirock

Purify
>Audino

Multi-Attack
>Arceus

Shell Trap
>Magcargo

Zing Zap
>Electivire

Psychic Fangs
>Tyrunt

Dragon Hammer
>Haxorus

Toxic Thread
>Swalot

Power Trip
>Alolan Persian

Fire Lash
>Rapidash, Flareon, Salandit

Tearful Eyes
>everything that learns Fake Tears

>>33379402
I think it would still just be nice for flavor. It clearly impersonates its teammates; why not borrow their move too?

It might be a good way to btfo an opponent by random chance or as a good way to just finish off Zoroark when you know it's going to die. Or you do some weird bullshit with a gimmick team that only knows a handful of moves that would all be incredible on Zoroark.

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>>33379186
>"Maybe because Spiky Shield is a Grass-type move and only the spiky grass things get it (and Togedemaru...)?"

>"spiky grass things"

What is Ferrothorn?

>>33379335
Azumarill is a moon rabbit. Diggersby is also a rabbit. Mawile is based off of the futakuchi-onna, often depicted eating mochi.

All of them use the mochi pun.

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Tough Claws

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FUCKING LEAF BLADE

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Shell Smash for Vikavolt for a Kamen Rider Kabuto nod

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>fast, poison-type special attacker
>doesn't get Merciless ability

>>33379411
>>33379409
It occurs to me, all things with Huge Power have rabbit-ish ears.

Which makes me really surprised that M-Lopunny didn't get it.

>>33379556
Weavile already gets throat chop.

>>33379556
>shore up
>not hippowdon

>>33379618
It has skipy shield doesn't it? It, cacnea, and quilladin, right?

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>doesn't learn trop kick
trop kick looks to cool to only be learned by one mon

>>33379862
m lop is one of my fav megas, but adding huge power would be incredibly unbalanced.

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>Rampardos is the signature user of a move that causes the most recoil in the game
>head smash
>is basically the reason head smash is rock type rather than normal like headbutt in the first place
>entire gimmick is having a rock hard head and learning all different sorts of headbutt moves
>Has a head made of rock that protects it's head when it smashes into things

>doesn't have rock head

>>33379881
Full list of Pokemon that learn spiky shield
>Cacturne
>Maractus
>Chesnaught
>Togedemaru

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>Rapid Spin

>>33376749
>>33376881
What is Mega Mawile?

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>>33379821

>Salazzle doesn't get Merciless.
>Toxapex doesn't get Corrosion.

>>33379969
>Gengar doesn't get Sheer Force and Merciless

>>33378109
>they also don't get speed boost

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>>33379929
>dogs walk in circles to make their sleeping place
>no dog pokémon gets rapid spin

>>33379556
Zing Zap is Socking and Prickly in Japanese. Only Jolteon, Zapdos, and Zebstrika seem like reasonable candidates for it

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>It goads its enemies into attacking, withstands the hits, and in return, delivers a headbutt, crushing their bones with its rocky mane.
>Doesn't learn Head Smash

also, its non-specific, but its movepool can afford to not suck dick in any way conceivable

Rock/Fighting wouldve been nice, and Rock/Normal for Midday

>>33378517
aerilate adds damage, and don't forget it could havd specs or LO

>>33379556
A lot of these aren't fitting.

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>used as the light for a lighthouse
>tail has an orb of light on it
>Light Pokemon
>still can't get tail glow

>>33380175
Then do a better job

>>33379959
a Mega pokemon

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>>33379186
Thank you for the noivern explanation.
Do you think an ability like primarina's liquid voice would be op?

>>33380296
WHY GOD WHY

>>33380337
Oh. So sorry you can't take the slightest criticism.
Let's start.

>Spirit Shackle, Spiritomb
Clearly made for Decidueye
>Darkest Lariat, Machamp
Doesn't fit Machamp's theme nor the corresponding Z-Move/Crystal
>Throat Chop
There are more Pokémons that are a much better candidate for that attack. Primeape isn't one of them.
>Ice Hammer, Avalugg
Avalugg doesn't have arms. Regice, Abamasnow, and Black Kyurem are a better choice.
>Revelation Dance, Bellossom
Again, doesn't fit.
>Baneful Bunker, Dragalge
Qwilfish would be a better choice

I'll continue this some time later. I'm tired and I'd like to rest.

>>33381062
Not about criticism. I wanted to see what other ideas were out there, and sounded like you were offering. I just read the names of the moves and went down a list of Pokemon that I could see using the attack. It wasn't an exhaustive one; just neat ideas.

Also, for the ones you described, Spiritomb is imprisoned on a rock. Spirit Shackle does sort of make sense on it. The only reason it has an arrow in its animation is because of Decidueye, but that could change. The Jap name is "Shadow Stitching," which doesn't specify arrows. In a sense, Spiritomb is "stitched" to its rock by its shadow.

Throat Chop on Primeape made sense to me because it's an angry bastard. IIRC, Sneasel gets this as an egg move anyway so it's already on a Pokemon that's an odd choice for it, but the Japanese name is "Hell Thrust." Considering Primeape learns a lot of "I'm angry" moves, I could see it lashing out with hellish fury.

Ice Hammer on Avalugg makes sense because it's a giant walking iceberg. There have been weirder things than a Pokemon without fists being able to punch. I also pictured it as Avalugg just shoving its entire weight onto the opponent, maybe stomping with its front arms. All of your choices make sense too.

Revelation Dance I just wanted on something that dances. Bellossom made sense.

Baneful Bunker is named after a type of fort in Japanese. Dragalge is said in its dex to hide in seaweed and then wreck ships; just seemed like it wasn't a far stretch to go from there. Qwilfish does make a ton of sense too, though.

Darkest Lariat is a wrestling move and Machamp is a pro wrestler. I didn't think about the Z-Crystal, but considering its named after Incineroar and not the move or type of the move I figured it would just be Incineroar exclusive. Even though Snorlax's Z-Crystal activates upon Giga Impact, for example, it doesn't work on every Pokemon that knows Giga Impact.

>>33381062
>>33381762
To my point, I just checked on the punching thing. Shroomish can have the Egg Moves: Wake Up Slap, Focus Punch, and Drain Punch. Sure it evolves into a Fighting-type with arms, but the little guy doesn't have any visible way to use those moves before evolving. Avalugg using Ice Hammer is far from bizarre in comparison.

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>>33377018
This one bugs me.

I also remember Lickitung not learning Lick until Gen II.

I used to think it was because of the Japanese name, but it's the same. May have just been because it was a Ghost-type move and was overlooked for Lickitung. Gen I had a lot of really weird movepools. I remember every single Water-type learning Hydro Pump as their final move, but only the Goldeen line getting Waterfall (before it was an HM and it was their signature move). I just found that really weird growing up.

Or how the most powerful Bug-type moves were both multi-hit and learned by hardly any Pokemon. I remember getting excited about Megahorn in Gen II, even when it was Heracross exclusive. And then Gen IV gave us X-Scissor and it was a big deal because we didn't have to use crap like HP Bug or Silver Wind anymore. And then so many Pokemon in Gen III having to run Normal-moves because they were Physical Attackers and their type was a Special one. All of those Gyarados with Return, holy shit. And Special Sweepers running HP because their movepool was so shallow and they learned too many physically typed moves; Shadow Ball was still physical and moves like Earth Power didn't exist yet. Jesus.

Gens I-III really were the Wild West of Pokemon, holy shit.

>>33377018
Yes?

Aurorus is also a rock-type special attacker covered in crystals that doesn't get power gem

Game Freak hates Aurorus

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>>33375702
>move is called Powder
>covers opponent in flammable dust, presumably from scaly bug wings
>only learned by Vivillon
>not learned by other "moth" Pokemon like Dustox, Venomoth, or especially Volcarona -- the giant flaming moth Pokemon

>is a cricket conductor who plays music as its gimmick (and has the best cry in the games)
>learns a bunch of Sound-based moves
>doesn't get a unique Sound-based ability (instead having Swarm or Technician)
>learns a bunch of Sound-based moves
>but doesn't get Supersonic
>also doesn't get Disarming Voice to take advantage of Technician
>a Technician Disarming Voice + Fell Stinger + status + coverage set would actually be kind of cool as a surprise gimmick mixed attacker in lower tiers

And before you butt in, cricket chirps can be "charming" so Disarming Voice could make sense

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>>33376972

Banded Huge Power Golurk hits twice as hard as Alolan Marowak. It KOs literally everything on stall and can't be trrapped.

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>Evolves with Sun Stone
>Gets Solar Power as HA
>Shtick is absorbing light to use as energy for attacks

>Does not get Solar Beam
>To a lesser extent does not get Morning Sun/Synthesis

>Pokemon based around the sun does significantly better in the rain

>>33379556
>A spirit that is shackled should be able to shackle other spirits
>A strongman should be able to use a professional wrestling move (That realllly should have been Dark/Fire or Dark/Fighting like Hawluchas signature)
>Moltres and Talonflame should be able to fire their beaks off despite them not being detachable/having projectiles
>Avalugg using Ice Hammer
>Hitmonlee using a kick explicitly from Alola

I mock but most of these were completely valid. Also
>No Shore Up on Mega-Steelix
Feels bad man

>>33381973
Spirit Shackle is Shadow Stitching in Japan.

Decidueye shoots an arrow to pin the target's shadow, preventing the target from fleeing.

Spiritomb does not shoot arrows.

>>33381977
That's what I just said

>>33381762
>Ice Hammer - The user swings and hits with its strong, heavy fist. It lowers the user's Speed, however.
It doesn't work for Avalugg because it has no arms.
>>33381062
>Solar Blade
I've always joked about Groudon being able to obtain this attack.
>Trop Kick, Hitmonlee
A kick with a tropical theme given to Hitmonlee. Learning Blaze Kick wasn't enough?
>Floral Healing
All Pokémons associated with the floral theme should learn it.
>First Impression
By going with its Japanese name, you might as well give it to those that can learn Headbutt or Head Smash.
First Impression is one of those moves that has a better name in English than in Jap. Stick with Golisopod.
>Shore Up, Regirock
Not Hippodon
Emerald Pokédex entry - A POKéMON that is made entirely of rocks and boulders. If parts of its body chip off in battle, REGIROCK repairs itself by adding new rocks.
Just make a Rock type healing move

>Umbreon the moonlight pokemon
>Can't learn moonblast
Fucking bullshit

>>33379910
>Forgetting the other rock type that had head smash in gen 4 and had rock head