Cosmic and Light Types

All memes aside I want Light type to complete the Fire-Grass-??? trifecta like the Rock-Ground-Steel trifecta.

You seem mad. Not really, but I want to project onto you.

Fuck off, Cosmic, Sound and all these other types are retarded

Light and cosmic are already psychic types. Sound type is the only type that makes simi-sense because balancing reasons,even if its simular to normal. Fairy and steel need a new weakness.

>>33345767
But they are bad ideas. Light is retarded because no pokemon is made out of light, and cosmic is retarded because it only fits with shit like arceus, dialga, palkia and giratina.

>>33345767
Pychic is the cosmic type. In Japan Psychic type is the ESP type. In Japan space and cosmic energies are part of ESP

>>33345821
Fairy should just be made weak to fire

To be perfectly honest I would like the number of types to reach 20, just seems like a good number to have. Cosmic and Sound are so far my favorites candidates, Light is so divided between different types and concepts to work.

>>33345767
>>33345930
Cosmic and Light are retarded for types

If we need two more then my votes are Wild and Sound

What about the Dinosaur type ivee been hearing about lately? That sounds like it could be cool.

Cosmic-Type would be for attacks involving black holes and actual stars

>>33345930
Sound is a good idea but Boomburst needs a nerf if that happens.

>>33346106
Id be more in favor of a Wild/Beast type which many mons could fit in to

>>33345930
I feel like we will get a horde of new types when there are no more new type combos.

>>33346124
But then that woudl be basically be a lot of Pokémon

>>33346110
>black holes
dark type

>actual stars
fire type

Both these type ideas are incredibly shitty and redundant.

>>33346153
Thats the point, its a new type, it should be broad

>>33346163
dark type is about trickery, rarely actual darkness attacks.

stars are not made of fire, they are made of plasma.

>>33345825
>cosmic is retarded because it only fits with shit like arceus, dialga, palkia and giratina.
And the UBs, Cosmog line, Lunatone, Solrock, Minior, Beheeyem line, Clafairy line, Deoxys, Sigilyph and maybe the claydol line.

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>>33346206
>dark type is about trickery

>>33346206
Fire is a plasma moron

a Cyber-Type would be great for digital pokemon, but we only have the Porygon line

>>33346216
Oh you don't wanna know what that means

>>33346216
that is why i said "rarely", we only have dark pulse, night daze, dark void and this z-move, the rest are trickery.

>>33346255
then explain why Solgaleo is not part fire type you idiot

>>33346286
>rarely

i.e. it still counts

Those other moves are only "trickery" because they're all physical moves.

>>33345780
But, Fire Grass Water mate.

>>33346302
Solgaleo is an emissary of the sun, not an embodiment. Volcarona for example is an embodiment, hence it's fire type

>>33346209
Its retarded because its covered by both psychic and dragon essentially
>>33346286
How fucking stupid can you be to not realize dark is a broad type for this reason
>>33345780
Water does that dumbass

>>33346302
Solgaleo is steel due to its relation to alchemy

>>33346302
Because the sun isnt actually on fire you idiot

>>33346392
>ts retarded because its covered by both psychic and dragon essentially
Just like ground and rock?
but yeah, it would be hard to make space related moves

>>33346460
Ground and rock is stupid yeah, id have combined the two uf i were in charge

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>Cosmic energy is the life force that is existent everywhere. It is present in the cosmos, between the galaxies, the molecules and in the space. It is essential to maintain the order of our life and expand our consciousness.
>The Power Cosmic is a limitless power that can allow the user to do many things such as resurrect the dead, manipulate the user's size and mass, teleportation, telepathy, creation of force fields, travel through time, superhuman strength, immortality and much more.

>>33346544
So psychic

>>33346478
Ground covers pokemon who live in ground and have earth-related powers, Rock is for pokemon actually made of stone. There are some overlaps in moves, but those types are pretty distinct.

>>33346598
Still though

>>33346544
I guess the type then should be ''Space'', so it doesn't get confused with these descriptions, and the description of the type is ''everything that isn't native to this planet''

>>33346478
you could easily mix bot ground and rock type into ''mineral'' type or ''earth'' type and it would be the same.

>>33346952
But thats literally what dragon and psychic are for

>>33346978
>But thats literally what dragon and psychic are for
are you saying that because of Draco meteor?

>>33347059
No, more so due to Dialga,Palkia,Giratina, and Rayquaza

>>33346084
>Wild
And you call Light and Cosmic retarded?

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Theres no need for newtypes

>>33347184
Yes like a beast type

>>33346952
That's what people mean with Cosmic, yes.

>>33347198
That's stupid.

I doubt there would be new types, but what about something like "subtypes"? Like, Water and Ground combined may form "Mud" subtype that have different resistances and weaknesses compared to just Water/Ground. Or "Sand" as a subtype of Ground for pokemon like Pallosand.

>>33347206
which was what was intended with psychic.

There's already too many types. I would like to see them condense types:

Fire
Electric
Water/Ice -> Water
Grass
Steel
Flying
Bug
Poison
Fighting/Normal -> Normal
Rock/Ground -> Earth
Dark/Ghost -> Dark Magic
Psychic/Fairy/Dragon -> Light Magic

There, 12 types. Keep it simple.

>>33347195
t. brainlet

>>33345898
>Fairy should just be made weak to fire
this. I'm honestly surprised whenever I remember it's not weak to it, since it feels like it should be.

>>33347215
No more stupid than Cosmic

>>33347220
Jesus thats retarded

>>33347263
Possibly the most retarded idea I've ever seen. "How to break the meta and make the game uninteresting in one fell swoop"
also
>grass isn't part of the earth type
"""simple and intuitive"""

>>33347263
No thanks, I like the type diversity we have.

>>33346256
Agree. It would be a potentially nice type but lacks current content.
Cosmic makes the more sense for now.

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Hate to break it to ya but the reason Fairy became a type was becuase it was already in the ehh groups.

Cosmic wouldn't fit the bill unfortunately... unless you count gender unknown.

>>33347137
>No, more so due to Dialga,Palkia,Giratina, and Rayquaza
But dragons have nothing to do with outter space, and giratina is more related with the devil more than space.
Like, other than the 3 you named, no other dragon has really any sort of connection to space

>>33347417
No it doesnt. We dont need a type thats covered by psychic

>>33347325
t. spacenoid

>>33347463
Beast could still work

>>33347463

why isn't there a monster type yet?

>>33347469
Giratina isnt based on the devil dumbass

>>33347476
This, if people really want cosmic then the most obvious solution is to rename psychic

>>33347263
>putting dragons, who are known to be the villains in fairy tales, as light
You could've said that dragons and fairies are mixed into the fantasy type which would make more sense, but instead you came with this

>>33347518
Hes probably 14 what do you expecy

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>light type

No. It's called fairy type. Every design element you would attribute to a light type (white, feathers, sparkles, cute, "good") belongs to fairy type. Fairy is so blatantly the "light" type of the pokemon games its hard not to be triggered by this.

>>33347507

but then what do we do with pokemon like Hypno and Abra who are based on literal psychic powers?

>>33345767
>cosmic and light
>what are psychic and fairy
Also Everyone can agree on the fact that a new type being made is unlikely. However if a new type were to be made it would most likely be sound.

>>33347463
>the reason Fairy became a type was becuase it was already in the ehh groups.
so where's the dark and steel egg groups?

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>>33347529
>The parapsychologist Andrija Puharich met Geller in 1971 and endorsed him as a genuine psychic. Under hypnosis, Geller claimed he was sent to earth by extraterrestrials from a spaceship fifty-three thousand light years away.[45][46] Geller would later deny the space-fantasy claims, but affirmed there "is a slight possibility that some of my energies do have extraterrestrial connection." Puharich also stated that Geller teleported a dog through the walls of his house. However, science writer Martin Gardner wrote as "no expert on fraud was there as an observer" then nobody should take the claim of Puharich seriously.[48]
>In his biography of Geller, Uri: A Journal of the Mystery of Uri Geller (1974) Puharich claimed that with Geller he had communicated with super intelligent computers from outer space.

>>33347469
>Giratina
>related to the devil
This is an incredibly shitty meme.

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>>33347479
>>33347325
Alright, break it up you two. Don't make me call the Titans.

>>33347527
Exactly
>>33347529
Thats why we dont change it, Cosmic is such a retarded idea
>>33347542
Yep Sound seems most likely, although Beast makes sense too

>>33347545
Amorphous and gender unknown.
>>33347484
Fire

If we really want to be accurate and are willing to lose simplicty for completeness, there should be extra mechanics in pokémon that go beyond types so it becomes more organized.

Maintain Fire, Water, Rock, Electricity, etc as "elements" instead of types. These will have the weaknesses and resistances we know.

Then, remake the abilities mechanic to add a list of characteristics. You can have more than one activated at the same time. These can be "it can fly", "it has strong mental powers", "it poisons foes on contact", "it is immune to sounds", etc.
We can delete several types like flying or creature based (ghost, fairy, dragon, bug) which aren't elements exactly and thus give more uniqueness to each mon. Any mon with the flying characteristic can be used to fly through the map without the need of an HM, any mon with strong mental powers can teleport you to a center (or just some of them), some mons can be used for surfing or riding independently of their element as long as they have that characterostic available.

But again, this would kill simplicity in battle strategies.

>>33347646
Kinda stupid

>>33347674
Thanks

>>33347678
Didnt mean it in a rude way, just seems unnecessary

>>33347529
>>33347529
>Pychic is the cosmic type. In Japan Psychic type is the ESP type. In Japan space and cosmic energies are part of ESP
All the psychic stuff came out of the 60's and 70's where everyone even the scientists were super fucking high and popular culture was dominated by tales of the paranormal, the occult, space travel, alien abductions, magic, satanism. Everything got blurred.

If Sound were to become a Type, what would happen to moves like Sparkling Aria and Bug Buzz? Would Sound-type moves still bypass substitutes? That seems like an odd property for an entire Type to have. Would Liquid Voice become a more limited Pixilate variant? Would Throat Chop become the new meta?

I still think Sound is the least retarded of the new type ideas, but it has some problems.

>>33347697
The main point is that we wouldn't need Cosmic, Sound, Magic, Light nor other many types because you can individually apply the relevant characteristics to each mon individually. A Gengar can levitate and simultaneously be immune to punches withuit needing to be weak to the dark since itself becomes shadows for fun.
The game also becomes less rock-papers-scissors and more strategy oriented based on the specific foe you are battling

>>33347730
I feel like any type specific noise move is tricky, id just move all the normal moves only

>>33347751
Yeah but why do we need this? Everything is fine as is

>>33347760
I know it will never change, I simply presented what I think would be a more accurate system. One which would end new typing discussions.

>>33347730

dual type moves are a thing now, you know. For the few special cases where it matters just make them dual type

>>33347760
>Everything is fine as is
/thread
it's not really but adding new types when the existing types are poorly balanced already would be a stupid move.

>>33347793
Wait what? Sauce please

>>33347802
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Flying_Press_(move)

>>33347820
Woah

>>33347573
>beast

What does that even mean? If anything I'd say anything other than sound or something like cyber/digital/artificial are most likely

>>33347760
>Magnemite has magnetism, which is not a type so it gets lumped with electric types
>Minior is a meteor so it gets lumped with flying monsters
>Magnets are now strong against meteors because... logic

This is not fine.

>>33347914
Youre autism is showing anon

>>33347793
I dunno, it just seems odd to create a half dozen new dual type moves when only one currently exists, and it's limited to one mon.

what about gaseous type?
Koffing, Gastly, Drifloon, Torkoal, Musharna, Spritzee...
Mist, Haze, SmokeScreen, Mist Ball...

>>33347909
As in like beat like a wild type

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>>33348184
Well thats stupid

>>33348184
>mist and haxe
>a gas
Go fuck yourself you fucking retard

>>33348184
Didn't Brown & Prism do something like that? Was it any good?

>>33348235
He probably hasnt had chemistry in highschool yet

>>33345780
What is Water?

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>>33345767
I think all pokemon are "light" type because they're just wild animals and the only times they have misbehaved is if they are pissed off ( rocket radio, the orbs, AZ's machine, ~~Shadow Pokemon~~)
Diantha's room being so bright made me think about this, her specialty is "light type"

>>33347646
Hello Saiph Charon

>>33348199
So normal? Most animals are beasts so normal

>>33347914
>what is electro magnetism
Also Minior isn't an actual meteor. It's flying organism with a rocky shell that lives in the atmosphere and eats dust

>>33346124
>>33346084
What the hell is "Wild" type? Every Pokemon is wild

>>33349121
Like pokemon that are bestial, or savage. Primape woyld be an example

>>33345767
Light type has always seemed like an easy type addition to me to be the opposite of dark type.

Cosmic is also an idea I had a while back but I have been just saying Space type. Same deal. There's plenty of Pokemon who's dex entries say they're from space, so why not?

>>33349230
Psychic and Dragon dumbass

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Light's pretty dumb, but I'd be down for sound.

>>33345767

~Air Type~
No, not Flying type, flying types have more to do with wings and the physical act of flying, hence it being a Physical type, Air type is based more on the air element, wind and clouds, it would be a Special type. Pokemon based on birds or with wings would keep the Flying type, but Pokemon based on anything to do with the air or clouds would become Air type.
Castform, Tornadus, Swablu/Altaria.

~Cosmic Type~
It makes sense and before 'durr Psychic type', I don't know what ESP and psychic abilities has to do with space and aliens and cosmic energy etc cause frankly, it has fucking nothing to do with the brain and psychic powers.
Cosmic would be more based around 'Aliens' and Cosmic energy, Pokemon that AREN'T found on planet Earth or are said to come from space, Lunatone, Solrock, Clefairy, Deoxys, Elgeyem etc.

~Sound Type~
One of the more logical types since there's so much they could do with it and there's already a lot of Pokemon based around using sound to attack.
Chingling/Chimecho, Chatot, Whismurr line etc.

~Beast Type~
Beast type would be something similar to Dragon type, Beast type would be more based on mythological beasts and legends, even the Ultra-Beasts could've had their own typing.
They would be both strong and weak to other Beast type.

Light type can fuck off, Fairy covers that
Honestly, these are the only 4 types I can see ever becoming a type in the future.

>>33349575
> Air type is based more on the air element, wind and clouds
Flying encapsulates this. There's a reason why Hurricane, Gust, Air Slash are Flying moves.

>It makes sense and before 'durr Psychic type', I don't know what ESP and psychic abilities has to do with space and aliens and cosmic energy
"Cosmic energy" is literally just everything Psychic can do. It's just spiritual nonsense. Aliens don't have inherently different physical properties just because they're not from Earth. The current types work fine.

>>33347198
They are all beasts.

>>33347527
Unless you mean light as in actual light, like from a light source.

>>33345767
Alright then. Cosmic is already covered by fairy, and would only serve to cannibalize the typing. Further, defining what a "cosmic" Pokemon even is would be difficult, as psychic covers a ton of its concepts as well.

>>33345767
I could argue with you, but since your entire opening post is nothing but a collection of strawmen from an obviously very butthurt individual, I just want to say your ideas are retarded, and so are you

>>33349650

Did you read it properly?

Uh that's because there is no Air typing for those attacks? So of course the nearest typing would be flying, I'm taking the actual AIR element, not the physical act of flying and wings, which is pretty much what Flying is mainly based on.
If you can split an Earth type into 3 types (Rock, Ground/Steel) there's NO reason why an Air typing can't be it's own thing from Flying.

Again, no, Cosmic has NOTHING to do with Psychic abilities, explain to me how space, meteors, stars, planets, aliens, cosmic energy etc has anything to do with moving shit with your mind which is what Psychic is?

>>33349575
Because maybe psychic types are accessing the cosmic plane and channeling cosmic energies
Also everything is in fucking space. Why would extra terrestrial entities need their own type? Do we need an earthling type?

>>33350596
Read the thread
Psychic was just a poor choice of name
>>33345866
>>33346544
>>33347563
>>33347718
Also meteors, stars and planets can all be covered by the basic element types.

>>33345767
Seriuosly, I´m not against those types, but in my opinion there have been so many chances to introduce them and nothing happend.

Light is actually in the game as fairy type, because it´s the opposite of the dark type.

>>33349575
>>33350596
>Hurr durr we need a soecially based cold type for Pokemon that use the element of temperature and not the physical property of ice

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There needs to be a waifu type for Pokemon like gardevoir and loppunny. Moves like attract, cute charm and lovely kiss should changed to waifu type

>>33345767

Cosmic could have been a thing had they not sided with Fairy. Hell, the Psychic gym in X/Y just twisted the knife.

>>33351167
>waifu type
>no mienshao

>>33351167
lmao

>>33351037
Not to mention the fact that types are balanced now.

The real issue is the lack of "anyone can learn it" steel and poison type moves.
An issue that wasn't a thing when they added Dark and Steel, as literally everything and its mother could learn fighting type moves.
And fire and bug were learned all over too.

But Steel and Poison type moves are rarely learned outside of those types currently, which makes Fairy feel OP.

>>33348184
hello prism dev

>>33351255
Just make Fairy weak to fire

>>33351232
Cosmic is Psychic

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Half of alien abductions involve psychic mind rape. There are people believe that alien sightings /contact are a psychic phenomena, that they're inter dimensional beings and can only communicate with us through our minds. Then theres all the cosmic spiritual energy nonsense, a lot of psychic claim their powers come from tapping into that source. In the 60's and 70's when scientists were proposing ideas to colonise space, hippies latched onto the movements and added all their new New Age nonsense about oneness with the universe, cosmic balance and that a new era will happen once we establish contact with aliens. There were all sorts or people claiming they were in contact with aliens psychically. People thought that these psychic powers were the next step in human evolution and that we'd all gain these abilities once we reached space. Then you've got all that ancient alien stuff with all religions supposedly being created by aliens. beliefs that all visions of god were actually psychic contact with aliens. Then theres all the astrology links.

The psychic type is the cosmic type, its just poorly named and people nowadays have a poor understanding of what psychic powers actually entail

>>33351438
Dumb

>>33351438
theres a lot more pokemon you should include
because every pokemon makes sound

>>33351438
A lot of the ones here have nothing to do with sound like snorlax yanmega vibrava electrode and toucannon. And komm-o would never lose its brand new unique typing. That's what noivern is for.

>>33351461
>>33351543
Hence why Sound is retarded

>>33351551
No it's a good idea. People just don't understand the concept entirely and want to slap it on everything without taking a look at the actual mons lore or dex entries

>>33351559
Beast type is legitimate the only good new type idea

>>33351564
How? It just doesn't sound very broad or interesting. It just sounds like beast would be slapped on every normal type with an animal like design. I'd say the second most realistic idea after sound would be an artificial type. It would cover all man made Pokemon to artificial intelligence from the Regis to mewtwo to garbodor

>>33351582
Read this guys idea
>>33349575

>>33351589
>>33349575
So beast would only be limited to a very small group of legendaries? I'll admit that's a bit better than what I imagined but that same guy wants an "air" type when we already have flying

>>33351610
I hate all the ideas except Beast. Beast would be decent atleast and not step on any type thats currently around

>>33351622
I can agree with that. But that's the one reason why I support sound and artificial because sound doesn't really effect the normal type as much as people claim it would

>>33351651
The problem with Sound is people want to move moves that shouldnt be moved. Like normal type moves sure but not other ones

>>33351683
N
O

>>33351659
You mean like bug buzz? No one wants those moves taken from their original typing. In fact I don't even see them as becoming dual types like flying press. They would just stay how they are.

>>33351714
Then I think sound could work but not alot of pomes should be moved

I sure can't wait for Clefairy line to get their type changed again.

>>33351732
Kek
Keep them the same and make Wigglytuff Sound

>>33346173
broad in a sence of 50-100 pokemon, not broad 600 pokemon

>>33346311
snarl is trickery

>>33351167
perfect

>make a type called garbage, put garbador, vanilux and most of the gen 5
>make it weak to everything 4 times
>people will stop using them
>remove them next gen when no one remembers them
>cleanse the shitmons and make room for better pokemon
10/10 perfect plan

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>>33350293
Fire or Electric.

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>>33345767
>You're mother is theoretical
How is this not a valid argument?

>>33347463
So what we need is a Water 2 typing.

>>33352317
What for? It would be just water too.

>>33352359
Aquatic type

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>>33345767
>Pokemon theories discussions
Talk about maximum cringe.
Maybe lose your weight and virginity instead of typing walls of shit.

>>33351882
I can tell your first game was gen 3