Why are these starters so much more polarising than the first 6 gens?

Because it's current year and Pokemon now appeals to the LGBT audience.

>>33332004
they aren't
it's just a bunch of autists on /vp/

They're more humanoid

>>33332004
It's just a vocal minority on /vp/ that's upset, and that's just because they leaked early.

Shit stats/movepool or a shit hidden ability.

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>>33332004
I loathe all of them solely because /vp/ wouldn't shut up about them.

>>33332004
Because all of them liked enough and have a sizable fanbase, and none are hugely shilled or dominate the meta game. So everyone can pick sides and easily start shitposting loudly about how their starter is the best. Ash also has both Rowlet and Litten, which gives fuel to post about how Decidueye/Incineroar is totally going to be the next Greninja.

Whereas last gen Greninja was the only one that was pretty widely liked, especially after it became clear it was broken in the meta game, and the anime and Smash Bros turned it into a shillmon the likes of which we hadn't seen since Lucario. Delphox looked bad in-game and its most vocal fans were furries, and everyone agreed Chesnaught was shit. Greninja fans could easily out shitpost phoxfags and Chesnaught contrarians, so no prolonged starterwar could really take place.

People did not want a fursuit man for Litten's evo. We wanted quadruped kitty. He literally has furry abs.

Primarina is the most blatant waifu bait of all time. Starters should not be fucking waifu bait.

Decidueye, ehhhhh, don't see the problem in all honesty.

>>33332127
>owlfag

Opinion discarded.

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>>33332127
>says there's no problem with Decidueye while calling Primarina waifu bait

Hypocrite much?

>>33332134
>>33332147
>literal baras
YOUR opinion doesn't matter. Leave my board right fucking now this is the last warning. I'm gonna FUCKING END your existence you pathetic piece of bara shit.

>>33332004
Decidueye and Primarina are good. Incineroar is objective barashit garbage and its fanbase is literally worse than Hitler, ISIS and Cancer.

>>33332010
Only Incineroar is really humanoid. I think you mean anthropomorphic, in which case I agree 100%. They took the monster out of Pocket Monster.

Decidueye is one of the best starters weve ever had but the other two are just god awful

>>33332010
Thats the point, they are meant to be based on circus performers
>>33332015
Good reason

>>33332164
>calls out barafags
>defends edgefags and waifufags
Keep up the hypocrisy, Anon.

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>>33332127
>the occasional feminine starter design offends me despite the majority of starter designs being very masculine

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Because unlike the other recent generations, they're all good and this causes more fighting over who is best.

I remember fighting like this over the Gen I and Gen III starters as well, which are the other generations with wholly good starter choice.

>>33332004
Because, like gen 6, they are each designed purely to appeal to a particular human demographic:

The appeal of the starters in gens 1-5 is that they are a symbol of your strength as a trainer, with their designs being close enough to their inspiration that you can project either gender or character onto them as you wish. They look strong, wise, ready for any battle and you know they'll protect you.

Incineroar looks physically strong and battle-ready, but rather than being a fire-breathing big cat that we ALL wanted and need, is some sort of juvenile high school prick. Its wrestler character dominates its already unnecessarily-human design. Girls love felines no matter male or female, but do they like wrestlers? It also seems to spout fire from near its genitals - I don't think this is a coincidence. It has clearly been designed to appeal to masculine sensibilities.

Primarina is a good classic Pokémon design - don't get me wrong - since its siren character compliments its seal inspiration. However, like Incineroar, it is obnoxiously gendered to the point where it has become a meme as "tranny seal", because transsexuals and drag queens magnify their feminine qualities in order to hide or escape masculinity, and this is what Primarina seems to do, with its pink stars, frills and pearl accessories. But, no man wants to be seen being rescued by a woman.

Decidueye is a good example of a classic starter design in terms of it being close to its inspiration and gender-neutral, but even it doesn't compare to the likes of say Torterra, Infernape, Charizard, Blastoise. It just stands there with its flimsy cloak of feathers and twiggy legs, shooting an arrow from behind the trees because it's too puss to be capable of anything else. Decidueye doesn't like having a trainer, but feels like it should because it needs you to rescue it from its passive attitude to life.

Why are they polarizing? Because they work around opposing poles: masculinity and femininity.

>>33332210
Femininity is a negative trait. Deal with it you pussy.

>>33332254
cry more, tomboy.

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>>33332254
???

>>33332254
Ah I see youre an expert on manliness huh

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>>33332254

>>33332065
Chesnaught looks a like a cool bro. Maybe not quite like Nidoking, but decent enough. Too bad it's got a horrible dual type in the same gen to introduce Fairies.

If Twitter was around in 1998 we would be be having starter wars too.

>>33332004
They don't look like species they look like only one exist due to how them having a locked personality and 2/3 look like they lean a lot on a gender. People didn't see it coming and got let down from fancy owl/big cat/circus seal. Plus on /vp/ they are annoying since it turns into shitflinging and waifu/husbando shit

>>33332008
""""Now""""

We were always here, fag.

>>33332336
A lot of Gen 7 Pokemon have that Personality problem sadly. The starters, Mimikyu, Bewear, Drampa, Cosmog, the UBs... it just doesn't work. Pokemon are monsters that have individual personalities and not monsters that have a personality as a species, it just doesn't work.

>>33332362
So...all the gen 7 Pokemon need alternate evo forms like the dogs to please everybody.

>>33332245
>
The appeal of the starters in gens 1-5 is that they are a symbol of your strength as a trainer, with their designs being close enough to their inspiration that you can project either gender or character onto them as you wish.

This, very much. I know some like to argue Gen 5's starters as well, but I strangely like all three more and more after seeing Gen 6's and 7's atrocious designs. I've always liked Samurott because I couldn't stand Oshawott, but loved it and Dewott. Emboar has grown on me (and it has the best shiny of the three), and Serperior is a pretty neat-looking snake.

The three are still simplistic enough that you can project your own character onto them. They are still designed as monsters.

Gen 6 and 7 are not designed that way. They no longer look like monsters after their first evolution into their middle stages (with an exception to Torracat and Frogadier). They're too anthropomorphized to look like a certain class or title (Wrestler, wizard, ninja). Not that you can't still project an idea or character onto them, but you still have to contend with the design elements such as Incineroar shooting fire from its dick (why the fuck was this allowed).

>>33332254

Found the salty autistic virgin

>>33332004
>implying gen 5 starters aren't the absolute worst

>>33332409
No, they're not. Unova's starters are much better than what we've gotten for the last two gens. They still look like monsters that belong to a series called Pocket Monsters.

Outside of /vp/, these are the most unanimously liked set of starters since Gen 1.

>>33332409
You leave the royal French snake out if this!

>>33332439
I'd say since Gen 3, but yeah.

>>33332409
Emboar is an atrocity, but aside from being completely incongruous to their lines, Serperior and Samurott are alright designs in my opinion.

>>33332004
Define polarising, polarising as a polar bear rising? like /pol/ arising? or what kind of polarising?

>>33332443
Serperior is shit

>>33332362
I never read pokedex entries because they're all full of shit, but I don't really see how Bewear and Mimikyu have the "personality problem"

Mimikyu is a small, frail creature that survives by disguising itself as other creatures and uses the disguises as decoys when it's attacked. That's very common in the animal kingdom. And Bewear is just a bear that uses an unassuming appearance to get close to prey, another common strategy in the real world

>>33332004
Because they're newer and more topical.

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>>33332453
Emboar won me over in that anime trailer for B2W2.
That's a bro, right there. And it has the best shiny.

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>>33332443
>I-it's b-based on french r-royaly so it m-must b-be g-good!
here's what I think of your french royalty

>>33332439
> outside of /vp/
So worthless mouthbreathing normies? Who cares what they like. They are not real.pokemon fans. Real fans realized that since the 3DS era pokemon has bedn shit.

>>33332459
It certainly doesn't look the part. Taste is subjective though.

>>33332008
>Now

>>33332004
Because of how gendered Primarina and Incineroar are. There's also the local audience who didn't want another bipedal humanoid fire starter; which apparently is all we're allowed to ever have.

>>33332521
Cut primarina and greninja some slack. All the water starters before them were rather bulky design wise.

Because they're slowly becoming Looney Tunes fodder?

>>33332004
>polarizing
I dont know, gen5 starters at the time were universally agreed to be shit, while gen6 were generally agreed to be disappointing (later greninja rising in popularity). I guess of how anthropomorphic they are compared to previous gens? Some people really like that and some people loathe it.

>>33332480

fucking lel

>>33332391
found the triggered racistic demon

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>>33332480
Serperior is better than you

>>33332127
>we

(you)

>>33332311
>Chesnaught looks a like a cool bro
Shitnaughtfags like you is why we can't have a nice board. You shitmongers always have to barge in when nobody wants you around. Do us all a favor and fuck off.

>>33332254
If you think feminity is a negative trait, you're either a faggot or a loser that can't get laid. And that's an insult to faggots

>>33332009
Thread.

>>33332964

Oh, it's this guy again.

Hey guy who specifically uses Shitnaught as a insult towards Chesnaught, how ya doing? Life treating ya well?

>>33332837
Serperior is far more serperior than you*

>>33333042
>the shitnaughtfag is so delusional that he thinks it's one guy
>he doesn't realize that 90% of the entire community uses shitnaught as an insult toward Chesnaught

>>33333042
Anon, i'm not the same guy from the post above and I also use "Shitnaught" because I absolutely despise that line. Don't be that naive.

>>33332004
I wanna know what kids think of them, though, not a bunch of /vp/ autists. If I was 5 again, I think I'd really love Incineroar.

>>33333042
Aw look at that, it's a chesnautist. Maybe it will run away crying like a little baby bitch if we laugh at it.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA!

>>33333058

Correction, ONE guy spread this insult that even a child could come up with all around /vp/, then some other people who shortly followed suit may or may have not used this insult from time to time.

My bad, I forgot the people who'd jump on the "Hate Shitnaught" bandwagon just for the lols and maybe to piss someone from time to time.

Adding or blending -shit- to a pokemons' name doesn't make you sound any wittier, just more childish than your usual /vp/ individual.

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>>33333245
Chespin did nothing wrong.

>>33332004
First of all, there isn't one that totally eclipses the others like Greninja did. Yes Decidueye is probably the most popular (or at least has the most vocal fanbase) but it's certainly no Greninja or Charizard.

Second, on the topic of Greninja, none of them are especially powerful. Greninja kind of raised the bar for a lot of people in their expectations for starters of gen 7. If you look back, starters have long been kinda middling. Remember gen 2? Or gen 5? Even the gen 1 starters weren't all that great competitively until Charizard's shillmon powers were unleashed.

Third, their designs in general. While it may sound shitty to say, it's true due to a combination of expectations and aesthetic appeal. Incineroar's more humanoid look turned some people off and could definitely be interpreted as 'bara furry'. Primarina is on the opposite end, looking overly feminine. This in itself is fine, but the gender ratio gives people the idea that it's wrong for starters to be feminine, since they are predominately male (though personally I don't think starter gender ratios are 'canon'). As such, le tranny seal meme. Decidueye doesn't get it as bad as the others but it's still there, and some don't like the 'edgelord/nu-male' look.

>>33332004
Because autists decided to label them as barabait, furbait and edgebait. Instead of just calling them trash like Gen 5' starters.

>>33333266
I know this is going to come off as a shock to you, but the vast majority of the fanbase had already used that insult before you saw your personal imaginary fantasy archenemy use it.

>>33333287
I don't think it's the one guy either, but the vast majority of the fanbase did not call it shitnaught. The vast majority of the fanbase is not even aware /vp/ exists.

Incineroar is that awful

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Primarina a best.

Hopebiscuit's Fakemon

>>33333287

I know this is going to come off as a shock to you, but I've been in this particular board ever since the moment it was created.

And seriously, let's just get it out of our system

>Shitarizard
>Venushit
>Blashitoise
>Shitplosion
>Megashit
>Feralishitr
>Shitiken
>Swampshit
>Sceptshit
>Infershit
>Shitpolion
>Shitterra
>Shitperior
>Embshit
>Samushitt
>Shitnaught
>Delshit
>Greshitnja
>Decidushit
>Incineshit
>Shitarina

There, all out of my system. You can't get any more even than this.

>>33333438
>being this petty

>>33333438
Honestly Feralishitr is good if only because "shitter"

>>33333333

>>33333447

Did you mean

>Being this shitty?

>>33332004
The first stage of the starters look great, but the final designs are pretty trash and look more furry than monster. People who are part of that crowd like them, people who aren't despise them.

>>33333536
/thread

>>33333331
so close!
>>33333333

>>33333266
>>33333438
That you're getting so autistically offended by a mere insult really goes to show that you're the immature one here. Only someone so immature would let an innocent insult rile them up so much.

>>33332147
Oh no

>>33332004
I like all of them

>>33332264
>>33332267
>>33332274
>>33332279
>>33332391
>>33333001
Lmao here come the autistic nu-male white knight virgin sissy gayboys.

Tumblr has views that would align with yours. Maybe you all should go there and stay there, you'd all fit in perfectly. Sadly though, the real world sees things differently. Continue living in delusion, if you so please.

>>33332147
>thicc

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>>33334990
>hating a pokemon this much

>>33334990
Have fun fucking your manly men. You barafags are all the same.

>>33332004
Polarizing has always been an issue for society. People have differing opinions and can't handle each others' shit.

>>33335061
Who said anything about muscular Pokemon?

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>>33335080
If you say anything good about Incineroar, you're a barafag.
If you say anything bad about other starters, you're a barafag.
If you post, you're a barafag.
Welcome to /vp/.

>>33335101
t. barafag

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>>33335117
Primarina is my starter of choice thank you. Incineroar is cool though.

>>33335017
I don't really care for it. Just acknowledging the fact that femininity clearly equates to weakness, stupidity, vanity, oversensitivity, etc. It's clearly a negative thing to be and no amount of SJW shit is going to change it.

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>>33335161
You're wound up tight aren't you? Even men can act like that. No more (you) from me.

>>33335196
Indeed they can. And when they do, they are rightfully insulted as faggots, sissies, gaylords, pussies, for acting feminine.

I don't know what to tell you anon. That's just how things are.

>>33332127
T. owlfag

>>33332157
edgy underraged owlcuck detected

>>33332157
False flag bara poster, get out

>>33332472
this

>>33332409
Here are the official starter rankings

>Gen 1
>Gen 2
>Gen 4
>Gen 3
>Gen 6/7

(a gigantic gap)

(still part of the gap)

(more power gap)

(so much gap I need reddit spacing)

>Gen 5

>>33332004
How are these starters more polarising than gen 6, gen 5 or even gen 2 ?
They are just new and there is a bunch of shitposter on /vp/, but besides that nothing is really different from the previous shits we got from this board.

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>>33334990
>LOOK AT ALL OF MUH BUZZWORDS, MOM: the post
Sorry, am I supposed to take this seriously?

>>33332004
Because you're underage. They're polarising every gen and by gen 8 you will forget about them.

>>33332004
>Why are these starters so much more polarising than the first 6 gens?

>Decidueye and Primarina are in the picture

What did he mean by this?>>33332065
>Because all of them liked enough and have a sizable fanbase,

>Sizable fanbase

>Incineroar
WTF!?

>>33332004
These look like characters from some cartoon network/disney channel animation.The designs are too western cartoonish now.

Thank god I skipped this horrible gen.

>>33335161
no you're just retarded

>>33332004
God, I just hate them all so much.

>>33332004
God, I just love them all so much.

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>>33332004
They're all just as bad or worse than gen 5 starters, but they appeal to furfags and autists more. Hence the contention.

>>33332008
>This also applies to almost all mainstream companies now. MTV (which used to be cool), Nike, Coca Cola, and etc.

They pander to these LGBTSJW-stricken audience and fanbases. It's annoying, but we have to deal with it.

>>33337785
t. numelbaratranny

>>33337825
Unfortunately so... I have nothing against gay people tho. I'm not homophobic.

>>33332254
So you want manly girls with hairy legs and hairy armpits that drink beer and shower once a week?

>>33332419
Accurate american citizen, vore fetish for beginners and my little otter horngrowing is magic?
Get your taste checked.

>>33332213
This. The designs are great and it causes people to "debate" over which one is best. It's a symptom of good work.

>>33332004
If only they made Incineroar a quadruped tiger without the wrestling theme, and with a stat distribution to be a speedy sweeper, that trio would have been very liked.

The Litten line had the potential to become an all time favourite, and a better candidate for being the alola shillmon, but GF ruined it

>>33338759
Incineroar's fine, the others are just literally overdressed abominations. Stockholm Syndrome and all that for them.

You're just salty on four legs, is all.

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>>33333438
Have this while you're at it.

>>33332837
sauce?

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>>33332213
>>33338677
>Really believing this

Cartoons.

Also, furries.