GF "balance"

>>33328577
What's your beef with levitate

>>33328656
None, I thought it was a good idea. Just mentioning it as something that hinders physical attackers (many relied on EQ back then)

>>33328577
where the fuck are my special attackers and defenders? like 80% of pokemon are just physical attackers or defenders

>>33329064
Because they are special :^)

Meanwhile special attackers have been getting walled by the same family of Pokemon without any counterplay since gen1.

>>33328577
Quiver dance>Swords Dance&Belly drum.

>>33329064
The only special defender we need is Chansey

>>33329802
Manaphy and non scarf Lele can beat them without any problem.

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>>33329802
>make psyshock to finally allow at least some special attackers to hit Blissey
>in the same gen they add eviolite so Chansey now takes 30% from the heaviest psyshocks you can throw at it

>>33329882
>252 SpA Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey in Psychic Terrain: 261-307 (37.1 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>most powerful psyshock in the game can't even 2HKO without specs
Seriously fuck Chansey.

>>33330038
but specs is the best set

>>33330078
Scarf is pretty popular too, but it was more a demonstration of its bulk than anything else. Such an absurd special wall has no business being this physically bulky.

>Nearly every Pokemon learns Toxic
>Not limiting it to poison types, some bugs, and some dark types

>>33330099
>>>33330078
>>33330038
>not using taunt +3 attacks set
And then you all complain about stall.

>>33330099
Tbqh I don't like scarf since it can't revenge kill +1 volcarona.

Physical attack has always been easier to change both positively and negatively than special attack. It's good for there to be some distinction between them other than just "not the other one".

>>33330136
Toxic is them throwing their shit at the other

>>33329812
And Mantine.

It's pretty good now.

>>33330609
but Guzzlord can learn it.

>>33330620
Or vomit whatever

>>33329802
>>33329824
>>33329882
>>33330038
To guarantee a OHKO Eviolite Chansey with max HP and Defense, at minimum, you'll need
>A Fighting Type
>Base Attack of 128
>Attack Stat is 390
>STAB that has a BP of 150
252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 746-878 (106.1 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Blaziken-Mega High Jump Kick vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 722-852 (102.7 - 121.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It takes a Fighting Type with a +Attack Nature with a Base Stat of 160 and a STAB physical attack that has a BP of 130 to OHKO Chansey.