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>king of the ultra-beasts >low-tier even in PU why? how?

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>king of the ultra-beasts
>low-tier even in PU

why? how?
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Hi
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Wait for his Necrozma fusion in USM.
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>>33326827

Simply put, Guzzlord's stats are a mess.

It has high HP, but piss poor defenses negate it.

It's offenses are also mediocre.

Basically, it has a great typing, but horribly distributed stats.
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>>33326827
Shit stat distribution and typing.
It doesn't hit hard as a physical attack
It can't tank much despite its massive HP
No recover
Slow
Gets 2HKOd at best by any usable Fairy move
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pixie dust
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>>33326839
fuck x4 weakness
need to be removed
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>>33326856

Fairy has fuck all to do with why Guzzlord is shit.

It's because of its stats, nothing more.
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>>33326867
>implying
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>>33326877

He's right though, Fairy is a shit offensive type, there's a reason why Tapu Koko doesn't run Fairy STAB
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>>33326827
Redditors will spout "le flambebe used le draining kiss" but that's not what makes Guzzlors shit. Dragon/Dark is great offensive typing and is decent defensively.
Guzzlord's main problem is it's stat distribution. It's defenses are too low to be a wall, it's offenses are too low to wallbreak, it's speed tier is shit, and to top it off it has no recovery.
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>>33326855
I want Mega Eeveelutions bad

>>33326827
I hope all the Ultra Beasts are basically the shit mons of their world. Itd be funny as shit if Guzzlord was like a ratata of their world
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>>33326907
Because...koko lacks play rough and uses dazzling gleam?
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>>33326907
>fairy is a shit offensive type
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>Horrible defenses mitigate it's amazing HP
>Its resistances can't make up for the awful Fighting, Ice, and double Fairy weaknesses
>Too slow to outpace other Dragon types
>Offenses aren't anything to write home about
>No reliable recovery
Gee, I wonder why, and this is coming from someone whose favorite Dark type is Guzzlord.
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>>33326827
>king of the ultra-beasts
Where do people keep getting this from? It's rarer than the other ultra beasts and the hardest to catch, sure, but it's not the strongest ot implied to be any kind of leader.
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>>33326985
>koko lacks play rough

Koko and Bulu wouldn't use Play Rough even if they could learn it.
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>>33326827
it's actually pretty good in NU, you ignoramus. Checks delphox and other fire types not named emboar.
But yeah, it has no right to be as bad as it is.
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>>33326827
>has high hp but no reliable recovery, which isn't so good when you're walking around with a 4x weakness.
>has a great physical and special movepool but 100 offenses just don't cut it anymore without a boosting move
>dark/dragon is a very mixed bag defensively. It resists things like fire, dark and ghost, but its weak to other common offensive typings like ice, fighting, and fairy. This refers back to reliable recovery. It has rest but with its common weakneses, it just doesn't have much opportunity to "waste" 2 turns like that.
It has a lot of things, but sadly just doesn't do any of them well at all.
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>>33326951
>Redditors
When will 4chan stop shifting every bad thing they ever do on le reddit bogeyman? The "shitmon used 4x SE move" is purely a 4chan thing.
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>>33327026
>bulu wouldn't use play rough
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>>33327573
Bulu certainly wouldn't. Koko might.
Bulu's Grassy Terrain boosted Wood Hammers hit as hard as a Super Effective Play Rough would. The only relevant Dragon in OU that'd actually take more damage from Play Rough than Wood Hammer and isn't weak to Stone Edge is Latios, who still dies to an unboosted Bloom Doom in Grassy Terrain.
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