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Naming the Most Overused Fakemon Ideass

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Two days ago I collected the most popular and overused Fakemon ideas and made a whole dex of them. I'm having trouble with the names, though. Could you help me?
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>>33320465
>Mushroom mon not grass type
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31 Keldeo
45 Frosowl
46 Whizzard
59 Yangfin
79 Onishygddt
99 Mandigo
103 Gophish
106 Ubernana
109 Le Mon
117 Penntrash
118 Penntruck
119 The Moon
129 Goblyin
147 Dunkywunkr
154 Petergryphon
164 Suecra
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>evil god
>angel
>theater masks
>plague doctor
>chimera
Some good choices there Op
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>>33320465
The major thing I was thinking while looking through this was "It's literally that easy to make good ideas/designs." Why does GF struggle so much with it?
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>>33320640
Well, ghost owl, tiger, sirene, woodpecker, toucan, yeti crab, wolf, donkey, diving bell spider, red panda, orangutan, lemur, isopod, sand castle, arceus knock off, koala, mata mata, anchor, mosquito cockroach and orgiami would all be on the list if it weren't for the last gen. There were all popular until they got Pokemon equivalents.
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>>33320465
pirate parrot
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>>33320656
also chess pieces
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>>33320654
>>33320661
checkmate
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>>33320465
>not making the names similarly generic and uninspired
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>>33321083
That's what I need help with. They should be generic but I don't want to just steal names from artists. They should also sound good and easy to pronounce.
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God damn, I really want that split evo cloud line now.
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#92 Olithochaete -> #93 Burroboros
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#119 Cumulat -> #120 Numbus
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>>33321725
tf?
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>>33322186
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>>33322238
How the fuck are you supposed to pronounce the first one? It's just a weak earthworm that evolves into something majestic/powerful. Like Feebas or Magikarp.
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>>33322326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo1xFC6KGKg
Kinda like this.
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I'd change the flamingo's type to Fire/Flying -- I've seen too many Fakemon named Flameengo.
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>>33322451
female is fairy, male is fire?
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Holy shit anon, some months ago I was trying to create a fakedex and some of those ideas I had and thought "wow I'm such a creative anon"... but will keep using them.

Also, you forgot Schrodinger's cat and White Sheet Ghost
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>>33322480
#47 and #127
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>>33322460
Deal.
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>>33322499
#127 looks like haunted suit of armor, not sheet ghost.
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This is basically Hipster: The thread. If the concept can't be found among the canon species, then it's open reign, and if what you have is similar to what someone else has done, then you credit them for inspiration or that they did it first, but writing off a concept altogether just because it's mainstream? That's an entire different level of autism altogether.
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>>33322538
Sorry, I read Steel Ghost. #160 could have a sheet but there will be no traditional sheet ghost. Also, Mimikyu exists and it qualifies as such.
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>>33322559
>most popular
>overused
Where was it ever mentioned that we don't want these or that we wrote them off? Just look at >>33320654 how many ideas were mainstream before eventually became a Pokémon just a year ago. I even mentioned that the names should be generic sounding but not straight ripoffs of already popular fan names. >>33321302
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>>33322601
I've seen my share of threads before made just to show their disdain for these concepts, so pardon if that experience affected my impression for this one. Still, by compiling a list, you're essentially telling potential designers that "this is overdone, don't bother with it", even if they would have their own take on it.
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>>33322642
I mean, you said it, they are overdone. I'm not telling anyone to listen to me or not to bother with them. These are all good concepts so it would be hard to find anyone who hates even just 25% of these ideas. I'm not trying to discourage new designers but I think this is a good way of showing what is already out there. It's an open market, come up with something new and you'll succeed, create something that is out there and stay in oblivion. Let's be honest here if a designer is good and mixes these ideas up just a little bit, they will get credit for it.

Just look at Pokémon itself, dozens of anchor, helm and ghost ship Pokémon but GF decided to make a seaweed that connects two of these items while giving it a 3rd STAB. Not huge but definitely distinctive and fresh. Same with the Ultra Bugs, mosquito sucks and cockroach survives, yet they made a huge mosquito that has muscles and a very fast, feminine white cockroach. All fresh ideas.
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Updated. Keep posting ideas.
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>>33323389
25. Armordillo
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>>33323389
>no velociraptor
I don't think you tried
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127 - Emptemplar
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>>33324181
#084, it could be any kind of raptor that's just a pic I liked
>>33324121
already a Ben 10 alien
>>33324396
Like it, Wat's the origin?
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>>33324478
Not him but probably empty + templar
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>>33320465
the Griffin/Hippogriff line could be:
#154 - Hypygmy
#155 - Zephyn
#156 - Gryphoon
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>>33324556
Makes sense. I was thinking about giving it multiple forms, like a samurai armor but we already have a lot of samurai Pokemon and couldn't came up with enough.
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>>33320465
#132 - Wallabash
#133 - Bangaroo
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>>33323389
#099 Deerimee
#162 Pestipec
#058 Doldi
#168 Lustifa
#167 Sorrost
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#072 - Mesmoth
#045 - Arctowl
#046 - Blizzowl
#033 - Marapier (Marlin + Rapier)
#034 - Marlauder (Marlin + Marauder)
#031 - Neighad (Neigh + Naiad - a water fairy)
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>>33323389
hows about Cetocean for one of them toothed whales??
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>>33324666
loving these, first stage is a Quakka btw if you have an idea for that
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>>33323389
#108 - Voltang
#042 - Onryill (Onryo - Japanese vengeful ghosts, + Krill - similar to shrimp) - You could go for a samurai-theme dead shrimp with armour for its skin
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>>33324933
Belugas and orcas are already toothed but yeah we might need a whale evolution.
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>>33325075
Quoklay? Quocka? Quocklaw? Sorry, I couldn't think of many for this one
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>>33320465
Is #146 a Stonefish? Because it is, it would be better if it was Rock/Poison as non-Water types based on Aquatic animals would be much more interesting.
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>>33325209
I went with Quaklay, thanks. Points out the ground typing.
>>33325259
Yes, I wanted that too but I made it evolve into a Dunkleosteus and everybody wants that as a water type. I don't want three different aquatic rock fish lines. I could still do it, Rock/Poison evolving into Rock/Water bothers me , though.
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Updated.
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>>33325496
#51 Soilth
#52 Slorrain
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>90% of those would make cool pokemon

wow it's almost like they are popular ideas for fakemon for a reason or something
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>>33325944
When Gen 8 gets revealed we can actually just cross off the ideas used in this dex. People would still complain that GF never adds what they want, tho.
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>>33325496
>not centaur, minotaur, succubus, baphome
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#027 - Velocelot
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>>33326082
The knight chess piece is a centaur. The viking could be a minotaur. The other two I had to google and couldn1t find much Fakemon.
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85 could be Hedgosaur.
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>>33326116
>>33326171
loving these
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>>33325496
#013 Roostark
#013 Henbrace
#169 Suecra
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>>33326198
Both #013 are great but they are the same Pokemon so they should have one gender neutral name.
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>no grass/Dragon dragonfruit
>the first stage of the jet isn't a paper plane
>implying Water/Ice beluga fakemon are more common than Water/Ice narwhal fakemon
Also making the mermaid Ice instead of Water is pretty original, I understand that you did it to make the dex more balanced, but I think that should be secondary to actually showing off said cliches.
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>>33326226
>you're right, I dismissed that because of Exeggutor's tail
>sure, I just typed "jet" into Google and chose one with small wings and one with bigger wings
>I can combine those
The mermaid is one where I can't bring myself to do it. I'll give it Liquid voice and Boomburst and that's a good enough explanation for me.
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029 - Tempegasus/ Pegasylph
030 - Nocturnicorn/ Monocturn (Monoceros = 1 horned horse)
031 - Stromare (Maelstrom - a strong whirlpool, and Mare, a female horse)
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>>33326285
To be honest I think you should just remove the mermaid altogether since Primarina exists now and I doubt the we will see many more mermaid fakemon because of that.
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Updated. Made the second stage banana a pitaya. I originally wanted a banana with a banana beard but Tropius exists.
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#076 - Spy-Aye
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where's my scandinavian troll?
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>>33326769
Oh shit, the Fairy/Fighting troll line. How could I forget that?
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>>33326760
please slug banana
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>>33326783
There is also the fairy/ground garden gnome
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>>33326760
#064 - Hailynx
#065 - Iciclaw
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>>33326802
#035 would be my garden gnome
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>>33326802
oh yeah, I remember that was popular as male counterpart to florges line.

My favourite was a mix of gnome and mushroom
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>>33326760
you have both feline as dark: cheetah and snow leopard

fire/electric is a better combination for a cheetah
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>>33326881
I thought of them as counterparts.
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>>33326760
#096 - Tespen (Tessen = Japanese war fans, + ESP)
#106 - Tropana
#107 - Tropitrice (Tropical, Pitaya, Cockatrice)
#112 - Snapace (Snapping Turtle + Carapace)
#113 - Aggreshell
#114 - Carapacion (Carapace + Rapacious + Dragon)
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>>33326802
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>>33326760
>Muh indian elephant, anon

remember it must be weak to raichu.
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>>33326968
that concept just screams regional variant phanpy line
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#141 - Koraknid (KO + Arachnid)
#143 - Shyren
#153 - Sabaracal (sabre-tooth + caracal)
#154 - Candonkey/ Yummule
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>>33322563
So? Why is that stopping sheet ghost from being in the dex. We already have an orca, mermaid, and origami mons
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>>33327013
that mean we need a list with most overused variant form ideas
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instead of Emptemplar, #127 could be Dullahaunt - Dullahan is an armored ghost, and it sounds better
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>>33327059
>this, withdraws ideas that have already been taken up in the core games.
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165 - Phanatos
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#083 - Triceratorch
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>>33327062
I'll probably do that too.
>>33327094
That's kinda the point.
>>33327084
I liked Emptemplar but this sounds so good.
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#028 - Foallop, Equoal
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>>33326760
>14 Larvarit
>15 Nymphit
>16 Mosquit
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>>33327278
I have no idea what that masked woman(?) with Fairy/Dragon typing supposed to be.
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>>33326760
65. Pantherma
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#146 - Logiclash/Logicombat/Strateguard
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>>33327278
108 elecitric
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#017 - Contamanita (Contaminate + Amanita)
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>>33327278
>>33327354
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>>33327384
Damn it. Too late
99. Wendighost
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>>33327278
18 Fairing or Faering
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>>33327354
>>33327414
109 Lemohm
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>>33327454
meant to reply to
>>33327278
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16 Grossquito or Moldsquito
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>>33327436
I actually prefer that. Renamed Hailynx Iciclaw.
>>33327439
>>33327454
>>33327426
>>33327403
Thanks.
>>33327354
It's just Mosquito without an O.
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>>33327278
You have a lot of unnecessary 3 stages lines
>chilly
>marlin
>gargoyle
>Gorgon
>Giant sloth
>beard dragon
>peacock
>snap turtle
>kangaroo

I mean many could be only 2stages or single lines, especially those in which the type does not change and only suffer from the syndrom "That becomes bigger"
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>>33327494
I think the chilly is supposed to go green-yellow-red with the hotness increasing of each.
I don't think the flying fish is inteded to be part of the swordfish/marlin line.
Bearded dragon actually showcases three different lizards that are commonly used for this stereotype.
The peacock is a split evo I believe.

Some like the gargoyle, gorgon, snapping turtle and kangaroo could go down a stage though.
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Which ones are part of the same family? It's kind of confusing
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#073 - Maggute
#074 - Farfurra (Farfalla - Italian for butterfly + Furry)
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>>33327582
I think typing give them away neatly. Moose is split evo. Manticore is a fusion gimmick. Ground shark is a split evo. Termites are a family but don't evolve. Octopi are one family. Peacocks are one family. Dolphin and Pony lines are branched.
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>>33327278
24. Pixiciego
(Pixie+Pichiciego -the local name for it in Argentina, i believe)
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Instead of a big ogre, for the fairy/fighting you could have a tiny knight that fights with a button for a shield and a needle for a blade - it could be called Gallelf, Tiknight
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>>33327637
>Peacocks are one family
I think it would be better if it was branched
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>>33327658
It's a Scizor-esque Metal Coating.
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It's bed time guys. Thanks for all the help and critique. Please continue posting, I'll look for this thread and make a new one tomorrow.
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>>33327560
>Macacool
>Winterboil
My fucking sides
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For #140 - Tamarai
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125 - Komodrake
126 - Kingmodo
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123 - Fyeesh
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>>33327701
What's 114 supposed to be?
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>>33320661
>chess pieces
>Pawniard
>Bisharp
Fakemon ideas, anon. Not real Pokémon.
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#114 - Levehethan (Leviathan + Vehemence)
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>>33327994
Shogi pieces in the original. Needs a Rock/Fighting chess counterpart.
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>>33327701
63. Fistgid (First+Frigid)
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Tapu Bumpu
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>>33327950
Alligator snapping turtle
>>33328125
>>33327818
>>33327799
>>33328731
I like it
>>33327770
Sounds good but don't know the origin.
>>33328239
I'm thinking about making the rook part Rock and the knight part Fighting. The Bishop form would evolve into the royals.
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>>33327360
japanese waifumon with random dragon typing which is prevalent since 2013
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>>33330916
Well, a samurai monkey could work, a Shaolin monk could also work too - Mandaolin. You could even have a prevo based on martial arts, i.e. Taichimp (taichi + chimp)
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#064 - Flogre (Ice Floe + Ogre)
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>>33331174
might add a few of those traits to the monkey I already have, but Infernape exists
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>>33331190
True, that's Chinese though and not based on a monk. I do understand though, and marmosets and tamarins are very different looking monkeys to Infernape's chimpanzee, + there would be no flame hair
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#025 - Pangolead/Drillow
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#073 - Pillair, Pillur, Larvair
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>>33327994
Roonight. Steel/Fighting. A split evolution of Spaniard would do nicely.
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>>33327994
Bisharp is not based on a chess piece, nor is there really any evidence for it being based on shogi pieces (at least that I'm aware of).
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>>33331323
#88: Armach. Arwing, from Star Fox; and Mach, or Mach 1, the speed of sound.
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#124 - Grendill - Grendel the fish monster from Beowulf + gill/ could also bee Grendoul
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#080 - Bracchamp
#081 - Braccules
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#154 - Misgnomer
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#152: Archaidon. Archaic, meaning really damn old; and megalodon, that giant prehistoric shark. Possibly evolves from Relicanth.
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#086 - Poolodon - Liopleurodon + Whirlpool
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>>33331323
#124 Scurvish
#135 Neurie
#136 Voltex
#137 Enlytex
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#136 - Craniamp - Cranium + Ampere
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I made a type chart and I can see that I missed a lot of popular type combos.
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>>33331479
The dumpster truck one could be steel/poison
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#87: Trotknot. Foxtrot, a military flight command thing; and knot, the fancy term for 1 nautical miles per hour.
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>>33331488
#117 - Scrappail
#118 - Septikan/Dispoxic
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I made Inferjoy Fire/Fairy and Sorrost Ice/Poison, so they are super effective against each other. It also makes a lot of sense thematically.
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#090 - Vermaggot
#091 - Pestifly
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#128 - Nurshark
#129 - Goblark
#130 - Hammark
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#116 Pterror
#124 Fyikes
#128 Niblet
#129 Gobblin
#130 Slammerhead
#135 Neurohm
#136 Statisphere
#137 Cerebroliath
#154 Gnomess
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#103: Randard. Random; and Card. Self explanatory.
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#014 - Daphnit - Daphnea (water flea) + Nit
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#103: Erradeck

Erratic + Deck
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#019 - Chileat
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#103 - Randace - Random + Ace
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#019 Tepper

Tepid + Pepper
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>>33331596
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Give me names for 130 and 158. Also, you can suggest form ideas.
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#158 - Leonyre - leonine + pyre
#130 - Anvile/Hammanvile
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For Tamarai, as one anon said before, you could have a samurai form - Fighting/Steel or Fighting/Dragon, and a monk form Fighting/Psychic
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You could have a sleet form for cumulat
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>>33331674
Not bad, definitely doing something with that.
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>>33331679
Yep, I was thinking about that. Possibly a rainbow form too.
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Metarigami dragon form. Grass/Dragon
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>>33331679
>flying/ice
Pls no
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Metarigami flower form - grass/fairy
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>>33331708
Crap. Dinosaur form is dragon type. Instead of dragon form, this will do: >>33331714
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>>33331710
Why?
>>33331714
Yes.
>>33331708
Already there. Dinosaur, dragon, same difference.
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Is Scorpini a stand-alone? If it is, make it poison/fighting as a counterpart to Ko-rachnid
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>>33331721
It's a component of Mantignite.
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>>33331721
158-160 are artificially created Pokémon. Failed versions of a chimera. They were too weak to keep so scientists released them to the wild, where they started inhabiting areas. They are weak but can combine into Mantignite somehow.
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Oh ok
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How about a Deepstaria -> Stygiomedusa, typing being any combination of water/ghost/dark
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#039 would sound better as Scaramid
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>>33331776
You could do this but psychic/dark, poison/fairy or dark/fairy if you combined this with moon jellyfish that have pigment that makes them glow and change colours
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>>33331784
>dark/fairy
This picture kind of makes it look like an angel so that's actually an interesting idea.
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>>33331790
Yeah, that could definitely work as dark/fairy
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OK. I added different mermaid forms and an electric stingray evolution to Niblet. We have plenty of Jellyfish in the maingame so I don't want to add ne. The vampire squid also behaves similarly.
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Niblet's evo could be called Raydar or Sonaray
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I decided against the shaolin monk monkey since Infernape already has elements from Japanese and Chinese monkeys/apes and Darmanitan has a zen mode.
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If you wanted to give a prevo to Mesmoth, it could be called Crystallis and could be based on a chrysalis as well as stained glass
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>>33331833
I didn't because there are too many butterfly/moth mons already. The one with eyes is still popular, though but it doesn't deserve to have pre-evos, IMO.
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>>33331825
Shame, but we do have our fair share of fighting monkeys so I get that - you could still go for a fighting/steel or fighting/dragon to maybe make it stand out against passimian or primeape
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>>33331839
Fighting/Poison would be unorthodox, but cool to see.
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>>33331349
It's name is literally Bishop you idiot
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>>33331847
The sharpest bishop of them all.
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>>33331847
It's name is literally Kirikizan you idiot.
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>>33331847
Basically all you Americans are so stupid they had to change it to be based on chess, bc none of you would be able to understand a Pokémon having a Japanese theme or basis to it
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For a pseudo - you could have a 3-stage dragon based on the Welsh dragon
1st - Scargon
2nd - Crimgon
3rd - Vermilligon
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>>33331895
I might need to add a Bug/Dragon line or a Bug/Ice line.
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Frostyke sounds better than Frostfella
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I like the other anons monkey ideas - For the monkey, there could be a samurai and a geisha - could be fighting/psychic - Marmonna or Tamareisha. If the monkey isn't getting another form or mon similar to it that's also fair enough
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>>33331809
Me floating away to make my own dex with blackjack and hookers.
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>>33331895
>Crimgon
Druddigon's Japanese name.
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I just wanted to note that the names are getting more creative than generic. I don't know if it's me who's giving in or it's just us who don't have the devaintart / tumblr mentality
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Done. Thanks for the help everyone. If you have ideas about unique evolution methods, abilities, and moves feel free to post them.
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somewhat punctual type chart
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>>33332281
what do the colors mean
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>>33332271
Cumulat could have an ability called Atmosphere, which basically takes the type/form based on the weather conditions on the battlefield
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>>33332387
That's just Forecast. I want those forms to be separate.
>>33332312
If the top left corner is confusing: Green is type combination in the dex. Blue is type combination not in the dex but existing in the games. Red is neither.
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>>33332271
>Grossquito
>not Poizika
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>>33332281
Reminder that Zekrom and Mega Ampharos exists.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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