>>33300058
>>33300073
haha nice one upvote!
>>33300073
>>33300073
Well since someone already tried to be this edgy I might as well actually post what's relevant
>>33300215
what's edgy about that post
>>33300338
the fact that it only takes up a single dex slot doesnt really make this filler, they ultimately got 4 designs for the price of one
but Baile Style and Sensu Style are the only good designs of the bunch. the other two are shit
>>33300058
>>33300058
> talking shit about bouffalant
it's all fun and games till you have a stab choice band head charge coming at you for the revenge kill
>>33300073
>>33300200
Now this is the kind of valuable commentary I come here to see
Sadly.
>>33300058
You're basically asking for Unnova's Dex anon...
>>33300406
I wouldn't say these are filler. They were made to match the incest triplets, serve as a secondary starter, and make for good early-game coverage.
>>33300058
I don't know if this counts. It doesn't get a lot of focus, but was used by Ghetsis, Alder and Hugh. It seems more like a powerhouse that just shows up too late in the game to shine.
>>33300397
>tfw Basculin is actually confirmed to be a dex filler
>tfw never got sadfish
>>33300501
post more filler.
>>33300397
>Gen 5 was supposed to have 150 non-mythical Pokemon
>Basculin and one other got thrown in at the last minute, bumping the count up to 152
>>33301155
Source? I know they said Basculin was thrown in after they realized they didn't have a generic fish. Do you know what the other on was?
>>33301155
>and one other got thrown in at the last minute, bumping the count up to 152
I wonder why the couldn't just give Basculin an evolution instead. A barracuda+sea serpent would've been fucking sick(and make a trio of sea serpents alongside Gyarados and Milotic)
>>33301188
Nobody knows what the other one was. My guess is Landorus.
>>33301188
Probably not relevant, but Stunfisk was made Ground/Electric for type diversity reasons. Dunno if it itself was made for filler purposes though.
>retards shitting on gen 5 instead of Hoenn
>a bunch of baby pokemon which gen 5 had none that I can think of
>silcoon/cascoon are literally the same pokemon
>gorebyss and huntal are basically the same but a couple of moves switched out and maybe two stats swapped
>solrock and lunatone are basically the same but a couple of moves switched out and maybe two stats swapped
>plusle and minun are basically the same but a couple of moves switched out and maybe two stats swapped
>volbeat and illumise are basically the same but a couple of moves switched out and maybe two stats swapped
>Latios and Latias are basically the same but a couple of moves switched out and maybe two stats swapped
>chimecho
>luvdisc
>castform
>the green chameleon pokemon
And people will defend this with >b-b-b-but double battles!
>>33301217
It was a last minute addition, so they really didn't want to clutter the Pokedex more than they had to. They intentionally gave it two forms so they could get twice as much mileage out of it.
>>33301228
I wouldn't consider Castform or Kecleon fillers, as they were made to show off the new things they could do in Ruby and Sapphire.
>>33301228
IIRC, there's some junk data in the gen III that seems to correspond to the order Pokemon were programmed into the game. Lati@s and Poochyena were both very early additions, while Zigzagoon was added near the end. Chimecho was at the very bottom of the list.
>>33301228
Also Milotic/feebass is an obvious gyarados ripoff, both in concept and stats
>>33301237
>It was a last minute addition, so they really didn't want to clutter the Pokedex more than they had to
That depends on what the 2nd last minute Pokemon was. If it's something unnoticeable, they could've scrapped it and given Basculin a well deserved evo instead.
But, given the latest interview on the process of creating Pokemon, whoever made Basculin probably didn't have the chance to suggest an evo before that other Pokemon was made.it's been revealed that GF never scraps a Pokemon that's already been drawn
>>33300058
Fuck off
Bouffalant is great
This is ''obvios dex-filler''
>>33300058
a good 60% of gen 5
>>33301297
>Riolu
>when it was introduced in the same gen as its evolution
Munchlax is also questionable given how hard they shilled it
>hating on dex filler
If you don't like a pokemon, don't use it. I'd rather have a variety of species rather than every grass pokemon be bellsprout, every normal type being rattata, every fire type being ponyta, etc. It's also nice to beat the game and still come across some random ass cryogonal that you completely missed and have never seen before
I just wish gamefreak would put a LITTLE more effort in making them competitively viable
>>33301297
The Gen 2 ones, Munchlax, and Riolu are not dex filler. The rest are.
>>33301326
This.
Also, the only dex filler are the "quota pokemon", normal rodent, normal bird, fire/grass/water starters, etc.
>>33300058
No Pokémon is more filler than Klang. I love the line as a whole, but Klang is LITERALLY Klinklang with less features.
>>33301155
Equivalent exchange. There was supposed to be a third member of the Petilil line.
Guess that's why Basculin comes right after them
>>33301228
the fuck you say about my kecleon and Solrock!?
The monkeys.
>>33301228
Gen 3's theme was opposites:
Land/Sea
Girl/Boy
Sun/Moon
Red/Blue
Serious/Lax
That's why there are so many paired pokemon in the dex.
>>33301382
none of these apply to Gorebyss and Huntail
>>33301382
You can do paired pokemon without being lazy as shit. See zangoose and seviper
>>33301388
"Girl/Boy"
Mermaid/Shark creature
>>33301375
I hate those fucking monkeys.
>>33301396
If they were "Girl/Boy" then why bother giving them a 50/50 gender ratio when the Volbeat/Illumise and Latios/Latias are locked?
>>33301392
I know that. But who do you think doesn't? GF
>>33301410
Don't know, I'm just basing it on designs and color, which makes them look either more girly or more for guys.
>>33300058
You know that they get like 10 times or more as many designs submitted for approval than they do in the end product? They cut too many lines as-is, and all that they include they include with intention.
While I like Bouffalant, you can look at the natdex in general to see that they're terrible at these decisions, too.
>>33300501
>unnova
>>33300397
>tfw they even used a berry as a model for Basculin
>All pikaclones
>All babies
>Rockruff + Lycanroc
>Basculin
>Finneon + Lumineon
>Kekleon
>Flabebe line
>Chimecho
>Luvdisc
>Three monkeys
>>33300058
>can survive a breloom's technician mach punch
>filler
>>33301427
I mean, it makes sense, butI'm just autistic about seeing every Pokemon as both genders unless it's explicitly not the case
>we want the pikachu audience
Lumineon
Fearow
Magcargo
Braviary and Mandibuzz
Plusle and Minun
Jecleon
Chatot
Purugly
Dewgong
Stantler
The emo eagle from Sinnoh
Furfrou
Florges
Mudsdale
Comfey
Chimecho
Corsola
Mantine
>>33301521
>Lumineon
yes
>Fearow
not really, it's a regional bird
>Magcargo
yes
>Unova raptors
yes
>pikaclones
yes
>Kekleon
it was meant to show what the GBA could do and it has a unique niche so no
>Chatot
same as Kekleon but for DS
>Purugly
yes
>Dewgong
it's a gen 1 ice type (the designated dragon slayers) so no
>Stantler
yes
>Staraptor
>regional bird
>filler
>Furfrou
yes
>Florges
only Kalosian fairy so no
>Mudsdale
it got shilled p hard but yeah
>Comfey
yep
>Chimecho/Corsola
idk what these are
>Mantine
nope
>>33301228
Nice bait butthurt unovabortion, but I'll bite
All of those were introduced to promote double battles anon, writing double battles in a retarded way won't make your argument look any better, the concept of duality was heavily promoted across the series, also, chimecho is not filler bitch, stored power + cosmic power chimecho makes up a good wall, none of those are filler except maybe for luvdisc, stay mad unovabortion, gen V is utter garbage.
Unovabortions unovabortions unovabortions!
>>33301228
>m-muh gen 5
>m-muh double battles are laaaaame
>>33301673
>m-muh double battles saved the series
>unironically defending chimecho, literally a last minute filler addition (its index number is the highest of all gen 3 mons)
conclusion: both of u are retarded who should become an hero
>>33301297
I agree but at the same time I don't, baby pokemon were a necessary addition, they only exist so the bigger pokemon make sense, lapras or kangaskhan make no fucking sense, coming out of an egg that big and with another baby pokemon already there wtf? there are still many pokemon left that should get pre evos, also riolu was introduced on the same gen as furrybaitcario
>>33301717
>Calls retarded someone who is defending the double battles
>Calls retarded someone who is criticizing double battles
Autism: The Post
Also
>Unironically believing Chimecho was a last-minute addition
Who told you that, bulbapedo? Ralts line is at the very end at the index number, right after Metagross line, the index numbers theory is only true for RBY, you have no evidence to support any of your claims, I bet you've never even bothered to look at the index numbers, you simply saw someone else saying that and went full sheep, you just like to tell people "lol ur retarded xXDDDD"
>>33301188
Pretty much all the Water types of gen 5 were only there because they needed to be.
Starter
River mon
Ocean mon
Obligatory Water/Flying
Obligatory Water/Ground
Monkey trio mon
>>33301408
Don't lie, murkrow needed that evo.
>>33301673
>gen V is utter garbage.
wrong.
>>33302027
what an excellent rebuttal, i'm sure we can all learn from the enlightening words of Unovabortion #312923.
Truly, one of the greatest philosophers of our time, our children will never forget his wise words to shut down rational thought - "wrong."
>>33301388
pretty/ugly
>>33301673
>All of those were introduced to promote double battles anon, writing double battles in a retarded way won't make your argument look any better
see>>33301392
>>33300366
This.
If it were 4 separate Pokemon, the yeah, sure, filler. But it's a 4-in-1 which reflects the four islands of Alola, so no, I wouldn't call it filler, even if it is slightly gimmick-y.
>>33300406
>implying simisage isn't godtier
>>33301228
>a bunch of baby Pokemon
>2 out of 135 total
>>33302035
Well what more do you want? You can't argue against the facts.
>>33302131
You forgot yourself, hoennbaby
>>33301343
>"quota pokemon"
>fire/grass/water starters
>fire
Man, the fire starters make up like a third of all fire-types. If we didn't have those quota Pokémon, fire would be hilariously underrepresented.
>>33301606
>only Kalosian fairy so no
Dedenne exists
Klefki exists
Sylveon exists
Carbink exists
Xerneas exists
Diancie exists
>>33302213
pure* fairy-type
aside from sylveon which is filler furbait shit and xerneas who's the legendary
>>33302221
Spritzee and Swirlix lines
>>33302221
>forgetting slurpuff
kys
>>33302249
>>33302238
both forgettable filler shit
slurpuff has some use as a belly drummer but why use it when azu exists
>>33302290
so everything you don't like is filler
>>33302299
i like things like slurpuff and klinklang but i can admit they're filler shit
>>33302191
Cry harder, Unovabortion.
Also, I'm not a huge fan of Hoenn. Just pointing out your objectively wrong statement.
>>33302027
>unironically defending gen v's pokemon
the things that kept black and white from being good games were the Pokemon themselves and the shitty encounter rates
>>33302495
Simply ebin.
>>33301673
Good lord, be more subtle next time.
>>33301510
That's not Togedemaru.
>>33302191
>hoenn baby
Jesus Christ, unovabortions can't even come up with good insults.
>>33302495
So you're one of those idiots who think literally every Pokemon from a generation is bad.
>>33300058
I have a feeling that this was supposed to be tauros evolution but was screwed over by the "only new pokemon" shit black and white pulled. Could have even been an early mega concept for tauros
>>33301930
>Obligatory Water/Ground
Hey, say what you want about Seismitoad, but that motherfucker carried me through the E4 and bitchslapped Ghetsis' Hydreigon pretty well, mediocre stats and all.
Seismitoad is credit to team.
>>33301673
>stored power + cosmic power chimecho makes up a good wall
Pic related does the same, but 10x better than your filler shitmon. Better design and concept as well.
>>33300058
>AFROBULL
>filler
kys
>>33301497
>all babies
dumb shitter
some of them are good like elekid, magby, and munchlax so that they could introduce these lines early game instead of mid-late game as electabuzz, magmar, snorlax, etc
the useless ones are the ones like cleffa, igglybuff, and pichu where their basic stage is already balanced for early game
use that pea brain of yours for once, aye?
ITT: all pokemon I don't like are filler (whatever this means)
>>33300073
so everything except eternal flower floette and megas?
>>33300058
>>33303059
All of the Pokemon listed outside of forms fill the Pokedex to completion, so yes
>>33301521
Nice bait
>>33300058
WTF IS THAT