I hope gen 8 has grapics this good

>>33277722
https://youtu.be/CNleWb-kb-A

this is from a cheap arcade game which uses the same pokemon models as 3ds but on better hardware. the pokken background towns look. i guess it will be inbetween

>>33277722
>>33277726
>That
>Good
It's just SM's graphics with better framerate and resolution. It's technically better, but hardly anything more than passable.

>>33277738

I mean, there's a limit to how good a Pokemon can look.

There's a certain line that, once you cross, starts leaking into "uncanny valley" territory.

the flames look like garbage

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>>33277745
What about Pokken?

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>>33277738
>that
>hardly anything more than passable
Compared to the shit we have now, its miles better. Its more than passible for a next gen core Pokemon game

>>33277767
It's uncanny valley. Especially the playable ones.

>>33277767
pokken is creepy and ugly as fug imo.

>>33277777
confirmed

>>33277771
It's exactly the same shit we have now, down to the very same models and textures, just on better tech. It's a polished turd.

>>33277777
>>33277782
Pokken was great visualy, but something more suited for a spin-off, not the main series.

>>33277777
It's the best realistic Pokemon you're going to get.

>>33277813
The issue there is you're under the impression we should ever get "realistic" Pokemon visuals at all.

>>33277738
>Thinking Gen 8 will look like A better sun and moon simply because of the pokemon models
>When they have the hardware to make it look better
faggot

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>>33277767
I personally love the style of Pokken, but knowing how lazy GF is, I don't think they'll make 800 models of Pokémon with that look. There's a reason Pokken's rooster is very little.

>>33277830
^this

I don't want realistic shit, just good rendering and solid graphics and this is perfection imo https://youtu.be/CNleWb-kb-A, kinda ridiculous how this one guy says that this is just slightly better than the trash 240p 3ds models.

>>33277830
This^

the main series should never cross that line.... that hideous ugly line

>>33277777
holy mother of chex

>>33277861
but GF doesn´t make pokemon models. creatures does. i think

>>33277777

Wow never seen a quints(?) before.

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>>33277864
The models pretty much are the same, the main differences are the textures, lighting, and animation. More animation's good, but I'm not a fan of the more "realistic" lighting. The backgrounds have awful art direction behind them, too.

I believe they should try to perfectly mimic the style of Sugimori's artwork, that's already the direction the 3DS games try to go for as well as it can on the hardware, though there are flaws, like most textures not getting the colors just right, or SM breaking the custom shaders with its glow effects. The games in the future should try to go further and further to that goal as the hardware improves.

>>33277738
Shaders are completely different, textures look much more HQ too

>>33277799
>It's exactly the same shit we have now, down to the very same models and textures, just on better tech. It's a polished turd.
just to be clear, so you think the models themselves are shit, not the animations, not the saturation of colors, not the shadings and stuff, but the models themselves?
If so, then what do you want them to do?, what approach do you want them to do, do you want them realistic as in actual fur and stuff, you want them to look like anime and do cellshading?, like what other game do you want them to look as?

>>33277722

No.

>>33278331
Models were a mistake. Sprites were and will always be better. The correct thing to do would be to go back to sprites, obviously.

>>33278429
Nothing is wrong with models. Sprites would be going backwards in technolagy. The models will improve next gen. The games look better with models imo. Km happy they are sticking with models

>>33278454
Well, of course they are not going to do pixelated as fuck sprites. They would be like the ones in Pokémon Conquest or Dream World. Even anime style ones would be nicer than stupid models.

>>33278474
What do you have against models?

The models looked nice in pokemon battle revolution - some models were really strange looking, but most were nice to look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpD7TcHGotA

>>33278502
They are rigid, static, childish-looking and seem like fucking play-doh. Sprites allowed for much more expression and movement.

>>33278514
>sprites allowed for much more expression and movement
>when the models are infinitely more expressive and animated than any of the sprites the series has had

Please remove your goggles.

>>33277767
No thanks, just keep the SM models, up the res and framerate, and put more work into the environments.

>>33278514
The devs said the opposite of this. They said models allow more expression

>>33278589
Well then they fucked it up so, so badly. The only time when they are expressive is when they faint and some just fucking sink into the ground like sprites did. And with models it's even more awkward.

>>33278728
You have to admit they are at their mosr expressive in the opening trailer. It's too bad they can't emulate the quality of that trailer in the gameplay.

>>33278734
That, I concede. However, GF is too lazy and stupid to make the quality of a full game like the trailer.

That's why they should go back to sprites, where they were most familiar.

>>33277854
You shouldn't honestly set your expectations too high, it's not that easy to make a game after all! *raughs*

What the switch games should look like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djMyzIiYENo

I know it won't but it should

>>33278760
Making sprites would take even longer and would also be a downgrade in technology. Even gamefreak prefers 3d. I know gameplay matters but you want you r games too look up to date.

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This gave my younger brother a frighten the first time he watched it. That's how you know~

>>33278514
This is all such bullshit

How can you call models rigid and less expressive when they actually have many different types of animations? Sprites using the same idle animation, even when they use an attack or get hit, is incredibly dull

>>33278812
Like seriously, if you take the time to carefully pause through the opening cinematic, you can feel how smooth and alive the animations are. And the proportions are excellent.

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>>33277726
can someone explain to me what im looking at

>>33278514
>They are rigid, static, childish-looking and seem like fucking play-doh. Sprites allowed for much more expression and movement.

>flashback to the old games when the shitty chibi sprites in the overworld had to move in place, jump and have exclamation marks over their heads to show ''expression and movement''

Yeah, not like the sprites back then were rigid, static or childish at all, no sir!, especially if you compared that to say, the guzma scene in the ultra space.

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>>33278514
So much expression and movement.
It's like a 2004 flash animation.

>>33278761
kek
this is my new meme

>>33280459
The future that will never be.

>>33280459
pokemon gale

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>>33280869
Creatures made those models. So those will probably be the ones used next

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>>33277722
If it had Pokkens high quality models and resolution without the weird photorealistic sheen and details in it, I'd say it'd be perfect.

The Pokken models are great, but something about them are creepy.

>>33280889
Pokemon go models are better sun and moon

>>33277722
It won't. The Switch is not that powerful.

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>>33282810
The switch is more than 100x more powerful than the 3ds. Its more than capable for gale graphics

>>33283245
Fuck off showing one of the worst look f games in switch to prove a point

Use Arms or zelda or xenoblade

>>33282789
Same models, better lighting and shading

>>33283263
But it looks good