ITT: The unfixables

>>33268041
Nah, just give it Schooling.

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>>33268041

>>33268048
the only good one in the popplio line

>>33268045
Higher stats won't change the fact that it literally learns only 1 move.

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>>33268130

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>>33268408
Name 1 thing it does better

>>33268461
Beat the fuck out of Ghosts with Surf.

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>>33268041
>can't stall
>can't hyper
>only good to stab explosion with

hdu gamefreak, i got all excited for a lickitung evo and you give me this shit

>>33268461
isn't superpower on it an event move?

>>33268087
4 years later and it still have not received +10 BST ;_;

>>33268045
Give it its own version of Schooling that takes a ridiculous level to get (40, 50, whatever) to but makes it stats insanely high. Also let it have more moves.

>>33268074
calc'd with 255 special attack
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Unown Hidden Power Ghost vs. 240 HP / 140 SpD Mew: 318-376 (79.3 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
yeah you're right, it actually is unfixable

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>>33268041
>

memes

>>33268579
What about a Z-Move Hidden Power?
It's fucking stupid but I want to see how food Unown can get

>>33268074
Give Unown more moves, and give Hidden Power an attribute that boosts its power by 50% when used by Unown.

>>33268596
Z-move that's always super effective maybe?

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>>33268587
>Starterwars

>>33268616
Boosts all of users stats by three, and uses conversation to make the type match with the HP.

>>33268565
Unown - School Forme
Psychic Type
HP: 48(+0)
Attack: 72(+0)
Defense: 120(+72)
Special Attack: 180(+108)
Special defense: 120(+72)
Speed: 60(+12)
Total: 600

When Schooling(Or whatever, maybe give it a renamed ability or something) activates, Unown gains a new moveset.

>Latent Power
Replaces Hidden Power while in School Forme
Special/100 BP/100 ACC
Same type as Unown's Hidden Power.

>Piercing Power
Special/70 BP/never misses
Psychic Type
Ignores Dark's immunity to Psychic moves and abilities that otherwise provide immunity to Psychic moves

>Crushing Power
Special/80 BP/100 ACC
Psychic Type
Deals physical damage rather than special

Last move I'm torn on, so maybe have all 3 possible/available but which one you get is randomly selected when changing forme. Or just have it be dependent on Personality Value or something.

>Restorative Power
Psychic/Status Move
Unown recovers 50% of its max HP.

>Destructive Power
Special/130 BP/90 ACC
Psychic Type
Lowers Unown's Special Attack by 2 stages

>Forbidden Power
Special/250 BP/100 ACC
Basically just Special Explosion that matches Unown's Hidden Power type.

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>>33268041

>>33268565
While in schooling form, Unown's Hidden power is always Super Effective.

>>33268881
>Make sure that you never do what you need to do to play the game.

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as much as i like it, its doomed to PU forever

>>33268041
I keep trying to shill my idea for a Mega Unown that would fix this (it would have proprietary mechanics but gf has never shied away from that before, like with Shedinja.)

Unownite
Ability: Unknown Power
HP: 48
Atk: 72 + 20 (92)
Def: 48 + 20 (68)
SpAtk: 72 + 20 (92)
SpDef: 48 + 20 (68)
Spd: 48 + 20 (68)

"Unknown Power" doubles all of its base stats and otherwise acts as Schooling.

48 x 2 (96) (I don't know if they can do this now or not, if not then just ignore.)
92 x 2 (184)
68 x 2 (136)
92 x 2 (184)
68 x 2 (136)
68 x 2 (136)

Unknown Power also has this proprietary mechanic I mentioned earlier: it gives the mon that has it three moves in its 2nd 3rd and 4th slots. These moves are only learned via this move and are forgotten when Unown reverts back:

Unknown Blast (Psychic clone, 90 bp 100 acc)
Unknown Barrier (Cosmic Power clone)
Unknown Healing (Just acts like Recover.)
(All moved only have 15 pp and by virtue of being temporary cannot be upgraded, and all are Psychic-type.)

This means that it has really stupidly high stats and a strong STAB, a healing move, a move to setup with if given the chance (otherwise known as filler,) and a coverage move courtesy of Hidden Power.

Thoughts?

>>33269002
I didn't read the thread so I didn't see >>33268870 . Obviously our concepts are similar. Pardon.

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>>33268500
*unsheathes Shadow Claw

>>33268565
>>33268870
>>33269002
Also You should catch all formes of unown before your Unown is able to "evolve".
inb4 thats tedious

>>33269070
That's a good qualifier for either the Schooling clone or just to get the Unownite. I like it.

>>33268526
Tutor

>>33268045
Schooling Unown (Becomes weak as shit under 25%)

48
72 + 80 = 152
48 + 80 = 128
72 + 80 = 152
48 + 80 = 128
48 + 80 = 128

336 + 400 = 736 (Barely above Arceus, which is going to eventually be 820)

You could move 80 from attack somewhere else, or something idk

Is supposed to be super strong when a lot of them get together, but Is hard to make it work with a single move, without
making it too good if suddenly gets 232 SpAtk Choice Specs Hidden Power Psychic (Or something without inmunities)

>>33268927
>Rocky types are now immune to Stealth Rock damage
did i make it more usable?

>>33269333
Yes?

>>33268048
>>33268087
>>33268130
>>33268408
>>33268419
>>33268461
>>33268467
>>33268519
>>33268587
>>33268623
>>33268927
>>33269045
You can fix all these by giving them huge power (including special variation for special oriented Pokémon)

>>33269316
>even more offensive power creep
Just what we need.

>>33268130
Yiff in hell, you retarded furfag.

>>33269471
Ledian would not be fixed by huge power.

>>33268045
This, or at least an ability like it with a different name to fit them.

Both game and anime lore tell us they're weak alone but strong in groups like letters are weak but words, sentences, books can have great power.

>>33268057

t. pedo

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>>33268927
meh its salvageable its move pool is nice with swords dance knock off, and some bulk gets aqua jet... so theres that

>>33268892
you can beat the game with literally any team save for Magikarp/Feebas/Sunkern/Azurill meme teme

>>33268596
>>33268616
Z-Hidden Power is always Normal-type, so this fuck Unown even more.

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It has decent stats, decent Abilities, and a good movepool for a Physical Electric-type, it just needs more Speed.

>>33268927
It's popular in monotype bug teams for having both rapid spin and stealth rock

>>33269923
this is a thread for Pokemon who are for the most part completely fucked, not those who can hold their own in FU.

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This poor fucking guy, he needs an overhaul in just about every way fucking possible. Terrible typing, terrible stats, and terrible abilities.

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>>33268041

>>33268041
>Every single Pokémon needs to be an unstopable killing machine
No, all Unown needs to be fixed is to be expanded more in lore and backstory.

>>33270166
Their game localizations have steadily improved though

It's really just the anime side and marketing that's fucked

>>33269316
>Superpower Tutor for Spinda
Nah mate, if only.
Superpower Spinda is Dream World only. SP tutor exists, but doesn't work with Spinda because reasons.
Good luck getting a good one.

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>>33268041
Think again

>>33271786
Da fuck?

>>33269070
Unown collecting is fun. It's how I got my first Shiny.

>>33268041
Lower attack to 48, double every other base stat number except hp and give it protean and access to recover and all moves with power in the name. Kinda ruins the meme but hey

>>33271819
>All moves with Power in the name
Hidden Power, Secret Power, Nature Power, Ancient Power, Cosmic Power, Earth Power, Stored Power, High Horse Power, Super Power
Abilities: Huge Power, Pure Power,
Power Construct, Solar Power, Power of Alchemy

>>33271837
fuck forgot Power Gem, Power Swap, Power Trick, Power Triw, Power Whip, Power-up Punch

>>33270153
Underrated post

>>33269929

I was going to say just that.

While volcarona might steal the show I know who is really making sure it all comes together.

Not useless

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>>33268041
>all those gimmicky suggestions

>>33268419
Bug/Fighting

Ability: Double Punch - user strikes twice with all punch moves.

Two Bullet Punches
Two potential 5-time Comet Punches
Two attack boosts with PUP
More crit potential

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>>33268927
Mega Armaldo
Rock/Bug
Ability: Weak armor
HP: 75
Atk: 125 > 185 (+60)
Def: 100 > 110 (+40)
Spa: 70
Spd: 80 > 90 (+10)
Spe: 45 > 65 (+20)

>>33270040
Give it simple and say that to his face not online motherfucker.

>>33272505
Unless I'm missing something, Simple Shell Smash sounds like "please hit me with priority" to me. Its HP is awful and you'll be gutting its defense, a Sash will give you a Smash, but any kind of priority will kill you.

>>33272524
and if there's no priority you win straight up. Seems viable to me. Pair with lele or something if you're that paranoid.

>>33272527
>win straight up
Nah, any max speed base 110 with a scarf outspeeds even max speed Magcargo at +4.

Huh, almost sounds balanced this way.

>>33272535
Depends on how you handle that crucial first turn I guess. But it would be viable regardless, hardly unsalvageable.
>when you run ancientpower and get a boost with this

>>33272573
Certainly more viable than it is right now, poor slug.
Just stay away from Sticky Webs. Simple Magcargo cannot afford to start at -2 speed.

>>33268467
This guy is going to have a niche in VGC because of Intimidate + fake out and the typing.
You'll have to think three times before using it instead of Arcanine but some teams will want it.

>>33269471
Shit defenses and speed manage to make huge power worthless, yes even in trick room teams

>>33268045
>48/192/158/187/158/38
Nice, specs HP might be doing some real damage now

I wouldn't trust Schooling on anything more competent than Igglybuff though

>>33268892
Pokemon is subjective, not objective.
Living life by the numbers is no way to truly live.

>>33268870
I like the idea of catching all of them for the form. Just make it so some guy gives you an item once he's able to see all of the unown up close or whatever and develop it to allow Unown schooling.

Also, keep it as schooling. I fucking hate it when 2 different abilities with different names do the same fucking thing. What a waste of data.

>>33269637
You can even win with those Pokémon, just not at the same level as the E4

>>33268041
nah it's okay, just give it a mega with tough claws or sheer force

>>33272758
>Also, keep it as schooling. I fucking hate it when 2 different abilities with different names do the same fucking thing. What a waste of data.
Its a good idea but it was fucked from the start

There should be flavor abilities for shit like Chlorophyll, not necessarily for Insomnia or Huge Power

>>33272924
>Huge Power
>Pure Power
>Wimp Out
>Emergency Exit

Literally what's the fucking point? Especially the first 2. Who thought that was a good idea?! WHAT IS THE REASON!?

>>33272958
huge power is related to the myth of the moon rabbit and the matcha grinder and matches pikablu+Mawile

pure power comes from yogi powers and fits megacham

>>33272980
Oh ok, guess that explains Diggersby getting it too

I wonder how Huge Power Lopunny would have fared

>>33268461
skill swap contrary

>>33272616
No, not really. It loses to Sash Kartana 1v1, and when they release intimidate, I'm sure the format will be open dex again. Keep dreaming.

>>33272980
>Not questioning the reasoning behind the abilities given to those pokemon
>Abilities are still the same with no explanation other than a "this pokemon doesn't fit under the context the other ability is based on" which doesn't work because they were introduced in the same generation

Try again.

>>33268041
Mega Unown
Ability: Powers up Hidden Power (grants STAB and doubles base power)

HP 48
ATK 72->1
DEF 48
SpA 72->172
SpD 48
SPE 48->119

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>>33272489
>>33274050
>Megas
>2017