Z Moves are lame as fuck.

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>>33247954
>Competitively they're almost always never worth giving up the item slot for

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>>33247954
>He doesn't turn animations off

I used them every now and then. They're fun, but the stupid poses ruin it for me.

Did anyone actually use them regularly in their playthrough of SM?
Yes.

>>33247954
>Competitively they're almost always never worth giving up the item slot for

play the game kiddie

Z-moves are basically "kill one of the opponent's Pokemon" buttons, as if gen 6 didn't give us enough +600 BST monsters who can 2HKO half the dex already.

>>33247954
>Competitively they're almost always never worth giving up the item slot for
Once again, /vp/ shows they don't know shit about competitive.

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>>33247954
>Competitively they're almost always never worth giving up the item slot for

>>33247954
Nope, haven't used one to this day

>>33247954
>completely over-the-top scale for a Pokemon fight

Pokemon battles stopped being mere monster cockfights ages ago, they're now presented as DBZ/Naruto-esque battles

>>33247968
If you turn animations off then these are even more redundant.

>>33247954
I've never played Sun & Moon but if Z-Moves are anything like limit breaks or overdrives in FF, I'd probably get tired of them after a while. Thankfully, animations can be turned off according to one anon. Kids love flashy shit, though, so I'm sure most of them like Z-moves

>>33248012
>they're now presented as DBZ/Naruto-esque battles
As far as the anime and other promotional material is concerned, they always were. And they didn't seem like it in gen 1 because console limitations and the fact that everyone could only use normal moves.

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>>33247954
this guy would like to have a word with you.

>>33248029

> As far as the anime and other promotional material is concerned, they always were.

There's nothing like this in the anime. Maybe the movies, haven't seen them in years, but this Snorlax is literally creating a shockwave from the impact.

>>33247954
I didn't even use them once.

I like them because I would always make retarded hand gestures to match the moves I use because fun and now it's actually a thing.

>>33248086
>literally every single episode where two mons fire off contrasting beam attacks

>>33248086
And? That's standard stuff. Like when Ash's Tauros used o use fissure.

>>33247954
I use them to grind. Especially early in the games, you can kill stronger pokemon easily with them.
I hate them, though.

>>33248086
Episode fucking 8 of the entire show had a Sandshrew demolish the entire damn arena with a single use of Fissure.

>>33247968
You don't neither otherwise you'd know dance still cannot be skipped.

>>33247970

If it makes you feel any better, future gens will probably cut the dance poses, like when an in-game opponent uses it, like how Mega-evos no longer use the dramatic keystone touching scene.

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>>33247954
>Competitively they're almost always never worth giving up the item slot for
Stop talking out of your ass like you know shit when you clearly don't

>>33248129
The what, 2-3 second dance? The only one that's even as long as the Mega Evolution animation is Extreme Evoboost

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>>33247954
You are completely right.

>>33248252
that was always cut sometimes from the beginning and to this day im not sure if they intended that since it happens during some fights and doesnt during others..

>>33248327
It only happens the first time you use a mega when you turn on the game, or if it's the first time you're using that particular mega.

>>33247954
The power of yo kai

>>33247954
As long as GF continues to believe players need to be handheld through the game, I'd prefer purely optional stuff like this instead of the melemele nonstop tutorial

>>33247954

z-status moves are fun

normal ones are actually really good competitively tho lmao

>>33248492

>this meme

Yokai is dead and it was never a threat to Pokemon

>>33248561
>lmao

>>33248570
Bitch please
It influenced the hell outta SM
We have a ghost that follows you around the watch gimmick
And stupid poses even the anime has way less focus on battles

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>>33247954
>Competitively they're almost always never worth giving up the item slot for

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>>33248581

What are you talking about, Anon?

Yokai Watch didn't influence Gen 7 at all.

Nope.

Not even a little bit.

>>33248632
>Yokai kills Pokemon by making it Yokai
But at what fucking cost?

>>33248581
>>33248632
Don't forget the cat fire starter

>>33248632
>>33248581
>>33248651
>>33248664
This makes me sad

>>33248632
That's a pretty clever translation of the second line to include the type name.

>>33247954
>not ending every major fight with a super effective Z move
>not timing it perfectly so that one of your pokemon evolves after every guzma and lusamine fight
>not finishing off the champion with your starter and it's unique z-move

pretty disgusting tbqh. it's like you aren't a pokemon master.

>>33247954
I just used them during my nuzlocke on Moon when I knew my Pokemon were in range to be revenge-killed if they didn't score a OHKO

>>33247954
I always use Snorlium Z, I think the other Z-moves are decent enough but the animations are so bad, like Windows movie maker level - breakneck blitz, every pokemon just slides along the ground, unmoving.

>>33248734
I'm glad to see a sane person has responded

>>33248734
>evolving Torracat
>letting your sweet baby turn into a furry abomination

you make me sick

Literally my only problem is the unskippable cutscene and animation every time you use one.

And no I don't want to turn animations off. You're missing out on some cool stuff if you do that.

>>33248940
>liking Torrashit
It's got worse proportions than Incineroar and its face looks like it got squished in

>>33248129
Oooh no how will I ever get those literal 3 seconds of my life back?

>>33247954
>Competitively they're almost always never worth giving up the item slot for
It HAS to be stressed how incorrect this is

That said I used them all the time in SM because I had the animations turned off

>>33248991
C'mon, you know what you are talking is BS.

I used them like once before beating the game. I spam Z-Splash in the tree though.

I made an effort to never use one in my nuzlocke. Ended up getting as far as Hao before the elite 4, and that's just because that god damn ghost mimikyu killed my best poke

It was the same with Megas in . You fight against Megas like three times in XY.
At least you get more people that use Z-moves in the playthrough.

>>33248104
Same. I have a specific motion for every attack (though some are very similar like Ice/Fire/Ice Punch of Thunderbolt/Thunder) so Z-Moves kind of amused me.

Won't likely see it, but it'd be cool if you could set such things as part of the motion controls for Gen 8. Not sure if there's some limit as it's not out yet obviously, but DB Xenoverse 2 on the Switch is doing it (already been shown that you can at least do things like go Super Saiyan and fire Kamehameha with motion controls) so it's definitely possible.

>>33252748
There's a DVD Pokemon game literally based around this concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVhur9iu3Es

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Porygon Z @ Normalium Z
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Z-motherfucking-Conversion
-Ice Beam
-Recover

>>33247954
I gave all of my pokemon z moves and used them alot. It saved me many times in battle. There wasn't any other good battle item I could give them

>>33247954
literally the only one i used was marshadows pokemon specific z-move because i thought it was cool

just gonna keep waiting for shiny marshadow to be available

>>33248492
>>33248581
>>33248632
I don't get this retarded logic.
>YW has dances in the opening and ending of anime/game
>short poses during battle are a copy of that
?????????

Also, you're delusional if you think that's the first time the characters danced in an OP/ED.

>>33255017
Pokemon did the dance thing with Meloetta before Yokai Watch existed anyway. Pokemon Smash even had a "send in a video of yourself dancing and we'll show it during the ending theme" thing.

>>33252748
holy fucking shit there are people that actually want things like this in the world

i thought this was a joke i cant believe people actually would willingly ask for stuff like this...

>>33248385

It also happens during gym battles, the last Lysander battle and the champion battle regardless of if you've used it before.

>>33247954
Z-moves let me use shitty unevolved pokemon to easily beat the game. Used one every battle they are fucking great

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I don't care for them outside of primarina's water spirit bomb.

>>33252819
this commercial is golden

>>33247954
I used them all the time, and they are used competitively a lot. Both on Smogon and VGC.

>>33247954

I used them on araquanid since water bubble affects them. Otherwise yeah z moves suck

>>33248734
Pretty much this, if you couldn't finish off the battle against Kukui with your starters Z move did you really put your heart and soul into that final battle?

Z-Abilities would be far more interesting:

Z-Intimidate lowers Attack two stages
Z-Rain Dish regains 1/8 HP every turn
Z-Hustle has no accuracy drop