Pokemon World Tournament thread? I think it has a good chance

Im flad people still remember the pwt it was fun so was the unova challenge and the subway it was a good game but the competive game has gone down since x y

>>33240709
SM has a way better meta than XY, both in the VGC and Smogon front.

>>33240709
It's also the first "third or enhanced version" since BW2 came out, so it's the first time they had the time to implement things like this again instead of making full gens and remakes from scratch

Impossible, GF is not making +50 new models for everyone or updating teams to include megas and stuff.

At best you will get Lance and a few more on battle tree, which will never be as good as PWT.

>>33240673
Its possible and its a bit more likely than Frontier for example but i wouldnt hold my breath
Creating 60+ models isnt had but at the same time i can see GF thinking its too much hassle for one feature

>>33240749
>Impossible, GF is not making +50 new models for everyone
They did over 80 models for SM

>>33240749
It's not that huge a task

They made over 80 for Sun/Moon as it is, and that's on top of them designing the whole region and new pokemon, which they dont have to do now
plus they can future proof them like they did for the Pokemon models

And they already did that for BW2, they redid every single overworld model from scratch for all the characters despite them stil existing from HGSS/Platinum

As for teams, it's a lot less work for them to add gen 7 updated teams to the existing characters than building a whole new facility of randoms, at worst they can just copy paste gen 1-5s from BW2 and update Kalos and Alola

Here's my PWT Wishlist

>Incorporate it into the story,
Make the PWT the highlight of the plot, make it the reason Kukui wants to build the league in the first place, go full shonen with it, and let us interact with the characters more outside, all over Alola like they're all on vacation
>"Gauntlet" mode
I want it them to incorporate some mode for us to battle the gym leaders in chronological order, starting from Brock and going until the Trial Captains
>Online mode
Let us build teams and share them online via QR code or something, and save them, let us host our own tournaments online
>"Battle Frontier" mode
If it's not it's own place, then incorporate play styles from the battle Frontier facilities like the Palace, Arena, Factory. Pike and Pyramid should be their own place though
>More characters
Ones that arent gym leaders/champions should join in the fun like Eusine, Frontier Brains, Hugh, N, Zinnia, AZ, the DP companions, Elite 4, etc.
>Expand the Venue
Give us more to the actual area, like move tutors, a day care, etc. make it a one stop postgame hub, maybe make it like a huge modern resort to fit in Alola more

They did over 720 Pokemon models (including megas and other forms) for XY aswell as about 100 chibi human models + few real size models

They did over 20 pokemon models for ORAS (forms) aswell as about 100 chibi models and few real size models

They did over 100 Pokemon models (new mons and forms) for SM aswell as over 80 real size human models

And you're going to tell me its hard for them to do 60+ old characters models for PWT when they have like 80% (if not more) of assets for the game already done?

Im not saying they will do it but it was piss easy at the point where they were after SM release

>>33240749
Honestly I'd rather pokemon go back to 2d if it means more can be in the game and non of that frame rate bullshit.

>>33240777
For new characters, because they had to.

>>33241742
Now all that work is done and in the game, so they have the free time to model the rest
It looks like that's what they were aiming for in Sun/Moon anyways with the Battle Tree cameos and the "It all comes together" theme of the games, now they're gonna all in instead of being rushed for time like the originals were

>>33240673
I'd rather see this in Pokemon Switch than USUM now.

We can rip ARMS models for porn, so dumping game data won't be a problem.

>>33240749
A lot of the work for modeling would be texture sheets, assuming they don't have costume updates/redesigns in mind and that can be handled by hiring guest artists to do the concepts while GF streamlines said redesigns if they wanted to go that route.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the likes of Horikoshi, Urushihara, Inomata or Nomura draw trainer costume concepts but GameFreak nor Nintendo is that ambitious.

>>33240749
people said the same thing about walking pokemon and look how that turned out

>>33243249
Gamefreak likes to keep everything in house but that would be pretty cool if they had guests design some them

Most of the early gen 1 Sugimori art resembled Toriyama's style so it would be neat to bring it full circle and have him come on to sketch a few

I don't really want it. This sort of nostalgia bait arbitrarily pisses me off, especially when they could spend the time instead making a Battle Frontier with actual gameplay merit.

>>33240673
Why do we need a thread for the most underwhelming nostalgia-pandering excuse for a postgame ever? BW2 was shit.

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PWT fits this games story more than it did for Bw2, it ties directly into what Kukui's dream is when he builds the League, since he wants Alola and it's trainers to be recognized all over the world

>"I've always valued our old traditions here in Alola, but it's time to make a Champion the whole world will recognize!"
>"To think that, someday, the kiddos in Alola will be able to go from being the island challenge champion to the world Champion! And then, when we have our own Champion, they can show the rest of the world what's so special about Alolan Pokémon and their Trainers, yeah!"
>"Man, the Pokémon and the Trainers in Alola really are the best! I want everyone in the world to know that, too! That's always been my dream! And right here, right now, it finally came true! And it's all thanks to you"

Maybe in USUM, Alola is chosen to be the site of the next PWT (Gamefreak mentioned that they chose Hawaii for the region partially because the World Championships are held there often)

This is what prompts Kukui to build the League in the first place, to prepare Alola for the event by anointing their first Champion

What I'm worried about is cartridge space. SM is incredibly bloated, it almost hits the 4gb limit of the standard 3DS cart despite having limited playable/explorable content. What the fuck can they add really?
Supposedly the 3DS hardware supports up to 8gb carts, but I don't think they even exist anywhere in a physical form, SM so far is the biggest game and it comes in a 4gb cart.

>>33244749
I think they would need more than just those models to hit the max, SM is 3.2gb so they still have a little less than a gig left of wiggle room

They might just spring for the 8 gig cartridge anyways for convince sake,
That's what they did for Bw2, I think it's one of the only DS games that uses the biggest DS cart

>>33244749
Bravely Default and Xenoblade are bigger than Sm, and I think maybe Snake Eater is too

>>33244895
None of which go past the 4GB mark and 3DS carts supposedly goes up to 8GB

>>33245253
I doubt they will go for 8GB cartridges, i think they will rather choose to work with the remaining 800MB which should be enough to do one or two extra features. Also i think if GF had enough material to change cartridges they would advertise it a lot more

>>33245510
Didn't BW2 use some of the biggest DS cart sizes in the history of the system?

>>33245253
They do that because default New 3DS SD cards are 4 gigs, they want kids to be able to buy a brand new system and then just download games outright without having to buy an SD card

However they are willing to toss that rule aside if need be since "Old" 3DS cards were only 2 gig, and Sun/Moon pushed way past that at 3.2

So far, no 3ds games have really needed to go past the 4 gb mark but I can see USUM doing it since "third version" games are meant for a more hardcore audience and the fact the Switch is out now, so most kids are playing that, therefore, since this is the 3DS's final hurrah there's no real need to hold on to the file size limit for convenience

>>33245518
Yes but i dont think they were the only ones and in case of gen 5 we'retalking about MBs, not GBs

>>33245520
I dont see it for one particular reason. Its been only a year since Sm. If you think they did shitton of content to jump to a new cratridge just within this year then i think thats very naive

>>33245536
>thinks Gamefreak only works on one game at a time
>calls others naive
holy irony, Batman

>>33245671
Dude, USUM is an UPGRADE game for SM. Sun and Moon were finished last year. USUMis coming out this year

You're implying they've been working on an upgrade before they did the prototype product. Think before you type

>>33240761
Not like they don't have space for a Frontier which could even include the PWT.

If they're going to cut off a chunk of the last island they might as well not make 70% of it empty again.

Seriously... Who gave a fuck about the meadow and shit out there? No one except for the fact that it was the only place to level properly which they also need to fix anyway.

>>33244848
We'll know that for certain when the price is locked down. No way they're going to not hand the price of the new cards off to us if so.

>>33245994
They purposely leave shit out to include in the follow ups every time so they may in fact have had at least the ideas, if not the actual coding done.

You can't even just be too young to know this. You'd have to be a fetus to not, for example, remember tutors coming back in OR/AS but NOT X/Y (which basically required no additional work because it would be mostly a copy paste from the last game that used it) doesn't even ring a bell.

Even though it was a thing they could've easily done in X/Y because they had before, they didn't.

Not to mention games aren't released the moment they're done because marketing and manufacturing.

They were likely working on these a couple months before S/M released, in other words. They aren't just sitting around doing nothing in between finishing the current game and the launch date.

I work for a game development company too, so don't even bother trying to argue about this. I knew this was a thing even before I spent the better part of a decade doing it. You'll only prove your own ignorance in doing so.

>>33246078
But thats obvious like the fact that job on USUM is done as we speak and now they're focuisng on Switch game. Doesnt make the development time of USUM any longer. Either way its either a year or slightly more than a year at best.

The move tutors are always absent in first games and are present in remakes/upgrades. Thats nothing new

>>33240749
Wouldn't it be good to make those just in case of future remakes or character cameos? They already future-proofed models for the 3DS generations, lag-inducing as they may have been due to polys.

ghey

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>>33246047
I think Akala Island could be a good spot to do it
They could expand the Royal Avenue to be a Battle Frontier/PWT venue

Meanwhile outside we see all the characters staying at Hano Grand Resort and chillin at the beach and other spots around the island

Misty/Wallace/Marlon/etc. could be encountered at Tide Song Hotel

Blaine/Flannery/etc. could be seen at Wela Volcano

Whitney can be at Paniola Ranch

etc.

>>33249136
This would be so cool, so we aren't getting it.