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>>33240491
Already making excuses.

R.I.P. hype.

they'd get along well with Kojima

Pretty sure that the guy is talking about all the normies wanting "Skyrim with Pokemon : The game"

>>33240491

Masuda is talking about the idiots who expect a huge open-world game with every region in it

>>33240491
It's gonna look the exact same as SM, and be even more handholdy. Just you wait.

>>33240491
don't most Pokemon games suffer from being overhyped?

>>33240491
Buy a switch HAHA! XD *raughs*

>>33240514

Yes

>>33240491
absolute madman

>>33240514
Most Pokemon games suffer from over marketing

There gonna still market the hell out of it even when they too keep expectations low

>>33240514
No, they suffer from heavy underperformance. It's the most profitable media franchise in the entire world, so everyone is in the right to have huge expectations.

>>33240491
>GF can't even make good games at 240p
>people cry and bitch over the 3DS
>get even worse games at 720p
Congrats on ruining pokemon, retards

>>33240491
Reminds me of Inafune
"Its better than nothing"

>>33240557
>most profitable media franchise

Yes

>Most profitable game franchise

No, Mario has it beat

Most of Pokemon's money comes from anime and toys, not games

That's not even taking into account that most of the money Pokemon makes doesn't even go to Game Freak; it's split between Nintendo, Creatures Inc., The Pokemon Company, Game Freak, the anime studio, toy companies, etc.

>>33240491
Ror

>>33240505
This, I've seen people saying they expect it to be BOTW tier on here.

>>33240587
Pokemon currently is bigger than mario. 3ds Pokemon was king in sales. 1,2,4 in charts highest selling 3ds games

>>33240506
I agree with that statement but it still sounds bad

Ohmori cant believe Masuda is saying that lol

>>33240604
Why shouldn't it? Pokemon sells way better than Zelda does, they should have the budget.

>>33240610
>Pokemon currently is bigger than mario.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises

>Mario: 528.534 million
>Pokemon: 290 million

No

Mario remains the king of video games

>>33240506
No, he's talking to all the people who expect it to be good.

>>33240635
Gamefreak has less than 100 employees counting janitors and stuff. BOTW had hundreds of people working on it and was in development since before the wiiu even released.

>>33240635

Zelda is developed by Nintendo themselves, Pokemon is not

Doesn't matter how much money you have if you're a small company with barely 100 employees

GF might have the money, but they certainly don't have the manpower needed for a game like BOTW

>>33240491
So, can we make Satoshi Tajiri the game director for the Switch games? I'm not saying they'd be better, I just want to see what would happen.

>>33240638
>over a decade headstart
>bundled with every Nintendo console whereas Pokemon has never been bundled
"No."

>>33240638
Do you understand what currently means? Mario had over a decade long head start against Pokemon

3d world and 3d land didn't even outsell oras let alone sun and moon or x and y

>>33240660
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y#Development
>with more than 500 people involved with the games' development, inclusive of localization teams

>>33240638
RETARD ALERT!!

>>33240638
As a franchise Pokemon is far bigger than Mario. Pokemon makes a fuckton of money from the merch and TCG.

>>33240491
At least link the whole thing: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx

Open-ish world, less than 40 hours, they specifically look at fan reactions, and are interested in the kid demographic reaction to the switch.

>>33240676

Not all of those people actually work for Game Freak, most of them are just hired help.

>>33240669
This exactly what happend with super Mario ds. They just bundled the shit out of it.

Pokemon go was way way bigger than super Mario run.

Pokemon is a bigger ip than mario currently

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>>33240638
>>33240669
If you count in merchandise Pokémon beats it by a mile.

>>33240676
>inclusive of localization teams
>inclusive

>>33240698
no shit

>>33240694
What pokemon game doesn't have an open-ish world?

>>33240491
It's going to look exactly like SM, with a little more high definition and a more dynamic camera.

Everything else will be identical.

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>>33240703
you think 400 people worked on the localization?

>>33240514
theyre "overhyped" because of the marketing
sun & moon showed off everything before launch, most people expected stuff that they hadn't already seen

>>33240664
Why cant GF just hire more people? They clearly have the money.

>>33240728
I think the Pokemon Company eats most of the profit. Doubt much goes to development.

>>33240728
masudaface.jpg

>>33240728
they don't want to put in more effort when they're going to be making roughly the same sales

>>33240506

oh right, because gta, dynasty warriors or even fucking zelda games are not big... I thought that being a pokemon trainer should mean that you have huge open world to discover, but console was a limitation

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Masuda reminds us who these games are for

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>>33240728

>Games
>Anime
>Toys
>Marketing for all of the above

Ohmori confirmed gen 8 director?

>>33240831
sadly it seems that way

>>33240806

japs are really weird, isn't that obvious that most of people like to play games alone in their rooms?

>>33240806
Why do they laugh like 10 year girls after every answer they give lol

Go buy your kids switches for Christmas

>>33240856

Handheld gaming is bigger than home gaming in Japan

>>33240806
ayyy kek.

we are the problem they only make money. so don´t buy the games

>>33240806
Kids haven't played a Switch yet because they can't fucking find one in stores what the fuck is he talking about.

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>>33240491
goddammit masuda...

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>>33240831

Hopefully, so best girl can return for Gen 8!

>>33240913
t. lilliefag

>>33240796
Open world =/= good game

Fuck off.

>>33240739
it's this

the real cancer isn't game freak but the pokemon company, who they dont give a shit about games

>>33240877

I know, but I mean that it's just impossible to play outside, people are distracting you ect. I would understand if they had any garden or balcony

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I've been saying that Pokemon's getting rushed ever since the end of XY's development solely for Pokemon Switch Development to meet a Holiday Deadline after Nintendo blows their load on major releases, and none of you believed me.
Is this proof enough, faggots?

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>>33240928

Game Freak owns part of the Pokemon Company though

>>33240920
Pokemon desperately needs to be big and open though.

ITT:

People who know nothing about Japanese business culture

>>33240512
SM looks decent if you look at it running full res on an emulator. The problem is the 3DS looks terrible because it's so weak.

>>33240961

No, it just needs to be good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKxC0RgyV4

Open-world games have a tendency to be shit

>>33240514
oh fucking please the hype doesn't make the nips work harder, that's the whip talking

>>33240724

get that smug anime girl out of my face

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>all these people taking the quote out of context

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>>33241114
>((((context))))

my hype is dead, pretty sure that I will not buy a switch now, it will just be trash as gen 6-7 with slighty better graphics and that't it.

>TFW we will never ever get a quality game like Colosseum again

comeon guys, you know that it was one of the best games, if not the best game.

It seems like most people here didn't even watch the interview. It's very clear that Masuda's very happy and overwhelmed by the response the Switch announcement got. People are now expecting this massive open world adventure and he just wants to make sure the hype doesn't turn out to do damage to the game itself. It's the first time they're doing a main line game on a home console, so don't expect it to be the biggest game of all time, people.

>>33241212
Colo has terrible pacing issues, is slow as fuck, only shitmon are available until the end of the game(unless you wanna use legendaries), and the models are just reused from stadium.

All it has going for it is the music and setting.

>... but definitely go out and buy a Switch (laughs)

He was obviously joking lol

>>33241213
Sorry, but no.

Pokemon hitting hd hardware is a pretty big fucking deal. I'm not saying deliver the greatest game ever, but don't set your sights short. When Mario and Zelda hit 3d, they strove to hit new heights and for the most part, they succeeded. Game Freak can't just settle with same old, same old for so long. People are clearly getting tired of the same formula. And no, SM did not deliver the real change the series needs. They need to be more bold and creative with their choices.

>>33241387
>People are clearly getting tired of the same formula

If that were true, they'd play something else

People buy Pokemon because they like the formula

>>33241387
Did you beat the new mario? Maybe you should wait for it to release

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>>33241114
> dev tells us the new game will be mediocre
> """context"""

When the dev tells us "the games will be ok at best" then we are allowed to be worried.

>>33241387
I think the issue GF are having is that they don't know if the traditional Pokemon formula will work on a home console. They've always been designed for the handhelds. So of course they have to make some significant changes to the way they approach their game design, I just feel like they're not really sure how to do it. They're probably scared that people won't like it when big changes are made to a video game series that has been using the same formula for over 20 years. That being said, I do hope that they dare to make some big changes, I just don't really see it actually happening.

>>33241431
>Devs tell us to not expect the biggest game of all time.
Time to freak out, huh?

>>33241387
He asked: Will we get a pokemon game with all regions in one game, can we expect a huge open world game like BOTW?

THIS IS why he said it, and it is kinda bad translated, it doesn't work in english.

He mean it like "We will give over best to make a great game, and hope we will not disappoint your expectations"

If I get a game like emerald with switch quality graphics, holy fuck I will scream like whitney houston

>>33240506
There is nothing wrong with expecting something you want from a multimillion valued international company with one of the major best-sellers in the industry, decades of experience and backed by the experienced devs of Nintendo and enough money to hire top tier programmers.

>p...pls dont expect much from us, ok thx

GameFreak pls go and stay go.

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>>33241462

>>33240712
SM

>>33241479
>There is nothing wrong with expecting something you want

It is when what you want is completely unrealistic.

>>33241479
So what are they supposed to say? "Yeah sure, expect a game with 20 different regions and 2463 new Pokemon! It will work out just fine. All the dumb little kids on the internet told us they want as many regions as possible in one game so why not, right?"

>>33241462
Don't make up shit. That wasn't the question.

All the dude said was people Twitter was excited about Pokemon switch announcement nobody mentioned all regions or open world in the interview

You are schilling so hard to the point of lying

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>>33241027
no

>>33240973
>Muh dumb culture should be respected
Fuck off. The Japanese business model is fucking retarded anyway.
We have the right to complain all we want, we are the consumers. We put the bread on their fucking tables (and all those worldwide vacations and brand clothing Masuda enjoys so much), in exchange of having the kind of game we want.

>>33241394
no, people buy pokemon because nostalgia. they need to leave out the competitive aspect of the game in the new series.

>>33240491
'' The game succko guyzz please undelstando''
'' filsto time with biggo console ahah''

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>>33241507
>>It is when what you want is completely unrealistic.
A decent proper game that's not a rushed mess and actually has effort on it is an unrealistic thing now? Wew lad.

>>33241507
Zelda did it, Mario is doing it, many others have done it. People want it. If they are going to stop because "it's hard" to make it work, then they dont deserve the job. They must find a way to make it work, that's why they are in a comfortable well paying ideas guy position.

Gen 8 is going to be the biggest cash grab yet, because it's going to force you guys to buy a brand new console.

It'll be rushed, lazy garbage and this interview proves it. Imagine having an interview at the very start of Pokemon Switch hype season, and downplaying the game's length and depth?

Shitshow in 2018/2019 is going to be epic.

>>33241496
Good point.

>>33241570
It's guaranteed for 2018, my dude.
Nintendo needs another System Pusher and they don't have anything now that they've used Zelda on launch and Mario for this year, and nothing else is as colossal as those two except for Pokemon and Smash.

>>33241558
>they need to leave out the competitive aspect of the game in the new series.

And lose the whole thing the series was founded on?

Battling and trading with other players has always been the main focus of this series. Everything else is a mere afterthought.

If you're just playing for singleplayer, then you have no business playing Pokemon and should play Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, or any other single-player RPG instead, because Pokemon isn't the series for you.

>>33240991
>Jim Sterling

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>33241581
Animal Crossing is colossal too. Especially in Japan.

>>33241570
>It's going to force us to buy a new console
So I guess Pokemon should have stayed on the Gameboy forever, right?

>>33240491
>Other devs say the Switch is a dream to work on
>GF who can't get two Pokemon with basic animations on a screen at the same time with a stable 30 FPS says it's very difficult
hm...

>>33241581
Didn't realise it was 2018 guaranteed. If anything that increases the chances of a rushed game.

I mean, look at the 3DS games - SM is barely playable if there's a double battle. Can we really trust their dev team to create a solid game for a main console?

Why do people want this game to be on 2018 so badly. Do you people other games besides let them polish and not rush the games

>>33240491
...... well he just said to be realistic

>>33241611
It isn't guaranteed for 2018. At E3 they said it might not release for over a year, which means 2019 is also possible.

>>33241581
>>33241611
It's not, they've even mentioned it might not come out til "2018 or later" there were a bunch of threads about it when it was announced.

>>33241581
This sadly

They burned out 2 bigs on launch and there's no fucking way that Metroid would be ready for the next year.

2018 is Pokemon Switch and AC Switch year.

>>33241594
With the mobile game in the near future and the Welcome Amiibo update coming on a year now there's a good chance a new AC is gonna come out soon. Pokemon and Animal Crossing alone would make it a blockbuster year for the Switch.

>Masuda tells people to keep their expectations realistic
>Underage shitposters somehow twist this into "lel Masuda knows the game will be shit"

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>>33240491
I'm the kind of fan who mostly play pokemon to catch and use the pokemon I like and go on a journey with them through the gyms and league, and collect every pokemon I can with every single set available. It doesn't matter if it doesn't have postgame shit or new exciting mechanics. Playing pokemon traditionally is my way, so no wonder I'd be super excited for any new pokemon game even if the new game plays in 2-bit graphics.

>>33241640
Smash and AC are enough

>>33240712
All of them, really. Open world games are open ended and have minimal to zero loading screens.

>>33241596
Of course not, but some people will be investing in the new console mainly for the next pokemon installment. I know I bought the 3DS just for pokemon.

And that was fine, because it I got a 3DS cheaply and it wasn't a big deal. Handheld gaming devices aren't prohibitively expensive. I wouldn't spend €350 on a Switch console though.

>>33241649
Also Xenoblade, Kirby, Yoshi etc. They might not be as big as Pokemon but they're still popular Nintendo exclusives.

>>33241649
Say whatever you want about hackurai but the man is a perfectionist and unless we get a half-assed port of Thr4sh there won't be a Smash for next year.

>>33241401
>What was Mario 64? Mario Galaxy?

>>33241437
That's part of the challenge. I want them to be daring. Not play it safe, but also not lose what the series was built on.

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Orchestrated final battle theme please?

>>33241462
>>33241490

>Shilling intensifies

>>33241676
Yeah and 3d mario, splatoon 2 and zelda are every green there not gonna stop selling after 1 year. Especially with DLC and free updates

I would be happy with mystery dungeon switch next year

>>33241645
Worthless shills like you with no morals and buyers ethic is why the games have been unplayable shit since Gen4.

>XY was rushed so that means ORAS won't be rushed!
>ORAS was rushed so that means SM won't be rushed!
>SM was rushed so that means USUM won't be rushed!
>USUM was rushed so that means Pokemon Switch won't be rushed!
When will you people learn?

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>>33241707
You want this, don't you?

>>33241653
I don't really think the Switch will go for 350 bucks once the Pokemon game comes out. It won't release for over a year, the Switch will surely have gone down in price by then. Also, why don't take the chance to try out the other games that will release for the Switch. BOTW is amazing and Mario Odyssey looks great too, let's hope it delivers.

>>33241686
What if they leave Sma5h to Namco Bandai only this time? Massive Hero Soccer Eye wanted to retire from the series and now Iwata is not around to beg him

>>33241644
The irony is you're the one twisting his words. Masuda said "I hope people don't get their expectations up". Absolutely nothing about just keeping it realistic. He is encouraging people to have low expectations.

>>33241713
Oras wasn't rushed. Masuda just didn't want to put battle frontier in game

Fuck

>>33241726

You left out the "too high" part

>>33241716
I wonder if there is a subsection of gamers like me - don't really do the gaming thing much anymore, kept in check with handheld consoles so they could play the new pokemon games... but wouldn't invest in a Switch.

I'm sure we're mostly irrelevant to game creators, and we're replaced by younger gamers over time. But I wonder if the younger gamers will care as much about pokemon as we did? And is that why new games are becoming basic bitch cash grabs, instead of expansive difficult games?

>>33241676
Other relatively important series like Professor Layton, Yokai Watch, Nintendogs, Art Academy and such typical Nintendo handheld series will definitely arrive too.

>>33241707
You can shove those buzzwords and pointless terms up your butthurt rectum.
Telling someone they're worthless shills because they enjoy playing pokemon the traditional way? Why don't you look for another game series if you hate pokemon? Why do you waste money and hours of your life playing something you don't like? If me buying the games that I enjoy makes me a shill, then you buying the game you loath so much makes you a dumbass autistic retard.

>>33241725
God no, before making a bold move like that on a console on thin ice they might do the half-assed port, PS4 on 2018 has like 5 hard hitters already confirmed, unless Nintendo goes full steam ahead Switch might be ending just slightly better than WiiU.

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>>33241707

>>33241730
>Oras wasn't rushed
It totally was. Developed in less than a year and with a team a third of the size of XY. They borrowed from RS the core of the game and from XY the engine. They did the minimum work possible and did not add expected features, then just copy pasted all legendaries coming from muh portals to make up for it.

>>33241785
Wii u total was 14 million in 4 years

Switch is projected to 10-11 million by end of this year which would be 10 months

>>33241814
>Developed in less than a year

[citation needed]

>>33241814
>just copy pasted all legendaries coming from muh portals to make up for it

That was for VGC

People couldn't use their transferred legendaries in VGC due to the pentagon rule

>>33241814
What features did they miss besides battle frontier which they decided not to put in by choice

Dex nav

Soaring Pokemon

Delta episode brand new

>>33241779
> implying I buy these shit games

>>33241809
Indeed. Stop enjoying things that aren't worth your time.

>>33241027
Anime website :)

>>33241840

If you don't buy them, then you don't have a right to complain about them. Take your shitposting elsewhere.

>>33241645
I mainly play Pokemon for collecting the new monsters as well, and that's why I was disappointed with the small amount of new Pokemon XY and SM had. The Switch game NEEDS to have Gen 5 levels of new Pokemon.

>>33240491
Can people stfu about this??? He's talking about the people who want all 7 regions and like 300 new Pokémon with God-tier graphics.

>a company that's never made a console game before is nervous about making a console game

There is literally nothing wrong with this

All previous console Pokemon games were farmed out to other companies (HAL made Stadium, Genius Sonority made Colosseum, XD, and Battle Revolution), so Game Freak has every right to feel nervous about jumping from the 3DS to the Switch

>>33241870
Same here, thats why I started collecting forms too
Regional variants are a feature I dont want to see removed. it makes up for the small new dexes

>>33241829
And I stand my point, If Nintendo doesn't go full weaponry next year they might end up selling tops 8 mil more.

>>33241876
Hey, that is me. I am one of those people. Fight me.

>>33241878
Thats why when you offer a job you ask for a certain amount of years of experience in a certain area. Literally nothing stops GameFreak from hiring the professionals they need. It's not like GameFreak are under any kind of financial crisis

>>33241840
>Indeed. Stop enjoying things that aren't worth your time.

Who are you to tell me that? What right do you have to tell me that? Fucking self-entitled autist.
If you don't buy the games, then stop bitching and moaning about the people who buy and enjoy them, you fucking double-nigger.

>>33241880
>Regional forms make up for the small new dexes
That would have been the case if they added twice as many and didn't just limit it to Gen 1 mons.

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>>33241840
>> implying I buy these shit games

Sure.

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Everybody is hyped up for pokemon on switch, and meanwhile I've already dismissed it due to the paid online.
Not gonna fucking lie, if this is one of the few games where they don't charge you for the online, I'm gonna buy both versions

>>33241885
Smash bros, animal crossing, yoshi, Kirby etc is good enough

You would be shocked how big animal crossing is in japan and smash bros in huge

>>33240638
>more than half the sales with a 10 year disadvantage

>>33241966
Yea but is not huge enough to face the onslaught that Sony has set for next year, fuck that shit of MHW might end up selling more than Switch installbase alone and that's just 1 title

>>33241856
>>33241941
Learn to hack your 3DS retards.

>>33241919
Hand holdy mediocre childrens games are not worth your time. No matter how buttmad you get about this.

>>33241999
ehhh i doubt MH is only big in japan. 3ds installbase is 4 times bigger than ps4 in japan. so its huge risk to take to just go world popularity. it fails in west than gonna be huge flop. since japan wont carry it. also its a 3rd party game. were talking about 1st party

>>33241566
Oh please.There's like a few thousand online shitposters that may be clamoring for an open world game. The majority of the fanbase isn't going tp gove a shit.

>>33241959
>is going to spend 40 dollars extra if online is free just to show appreciation
>could've just paid 2 years online subscription with the money

I don't get why people cheap out on paying a reasonable price for online play on principal. It's really not expensive. (BUT of course we should expect a better service from Nintendo in return, which doesn't seem the case right now regarding the Splatoon 2 issues, so... yeah)

>>33242002
So you actually waste hours of your time playing Pokemon? Thanks for proving my point, autist

>>33242067
Because pokemon is the only game where I would use the online. why would I play 20 extra dollars to use major features for just one game?

>>33242039
There are factors to consider

1. PS4's installbase is 64mill
2. Is a Home MH
3. Alot of Sonygroes are going to buy it just to brag to Nintengroes
4. Alot of people were expecting a "real" MH
5. Is open word meme
6. Is casual friendly AF

Personally I dislike that game but it has no reason to flop neither on Japan or west.

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>>33242002
>Stop enjoying what I don't like: the post

You need to be 18+ to post on here.
Underage b&.

>>33241959
Pokébank will probably be a feature included in the yearly Nintendo online service so it's not going to be that much of a difference in my opinion

>>33242146
Hey, if it is then I might consider actually buying into the service as long as one other game worth playing online comes out as well.

>>33241839
They included almost nothing from Emerald, left out the Safari Game, left out Berry Blending, left out the Game Corner (don't give me that "but Europe!!!" shit they could've put something there if not slots, HGSS did it), probably missing even more things.

>>33241840
No matter how many times you screech like an autist about the games being shit, millions around the world will keep buying them to a record high top-sellers, while you seethe on your hugbox telling people not to buy it.

>>33242182
Switch Online is thrash, I say this as someone who can't play more than 15 minutes straight Splatoon 2, I won't pay for that shit doesn't worth.

>>33242106
But how can you expect to get years of QUALITY service and pay nothing for it? I don't think that is how it works. But like I said, I do expect quality if I have to pay for it, that means GF has to come up with something at least on par with PSS, included Pokebank, some form of chat function so trading with strangers isn't such a huge mess, no disconnects, more variety in battle modes, tournaments (+mini games) etc etc.
What I'm trying to say: Pokemon's online potential is widely underused, even has regressed with SM in my opinion, and if we want GF to go with the times we should be ready to invest a minimal sum.
If you expect all that to be for free, and even expect improvement, than I fear you have been spoiled.

>>33240514
Not to Gold/Silver

>>33241653
>I know I bought the 3DS just for pokemon.
You can stop posting anytime

>>33242202
>Trainer Hill
>Mirage Tower
>Desert Underpass

>>33242202
>left out the Safari Game

No they didn't. It's still there and you can still catch the same Pokemon, the only difference is that you actually get to fight now and use your own Poke Balls instead of just chucking balls at Pokemon and praying to the Random Number God.

>>33242272
>on a message board solely dedicated to posting about one franchise
>is surprised that someone on the board bought a cheap console to play the games

Take a long hard look at where you are, anon.

X and Y, I thought was a quality game. I wish it had a bigger postgame, and I really had hoped we were gonna get Z with more Mega Evolutions, South Kalos, filling in those gaps that were hinted at.
But overall, I thought they were great.
The hype train was unreal, we got more Megas than they teased, and the new Pokémon were great. Kalos ended up being a bit too 2D region but now in 3D, but I liked the region all the same.
It’s over-shat-on by /vp/

>>33242298
>JUST for pokemon
read it again

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>>33242291
>the only difference is it's not the Safari Game and it's just normal battles
The Safari ZONE, the location in Hoenn, is still there but the Safari GAME, the gameplay mechanics that make the Safari Zone more than just a dead-end route with no purpose, is gone.

>>33240831
>>33240842
The scheduling wouldn't make sense. He's directed the past three Pokemon pairs, and development for the Switch game obviously started in 2015. Its either Masuda, or hopefully Unno

>>33240913
>Hopefully, so best girl can return for Gen 8!
This post makes no fucking sense

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>>33240491
Jesus Christ .....

>>33242310

Nobody liked the Safari Zone's mechanics though

It wasn't fun, it was just frustrating

Pretty sure this is for the people who say shit like "oh it'll be an open-world MMO game!!" and then get pissy when it isn't.

>>33242337
they could build on the core concept, improve it and turn it into an enjoyable mini-game!

>>33241047

Gotta drill'em all.

>>33242337
I liked the Safari Game which is why I'm complaining about them removing it. Fuck you.

>>33242306
Not him, but I, for example, not into video games at all, I only like pokemon. So if I owned a 3DS I'd only play pokemon too.

>>33240587
why did you reply to that post to say some irrelevant shit lmao, he already said "most profitable media franchise"

>>33242107
>3. Alot of Sonygroes are going to buy it just to brag to Nintengroes
Sonygroes don't buy games they brag about. That's why Bloodborne has only sold 2 million

Honestly, Resident Evil is a more worldwide popular game than Monster Hunter, and 7 only sold 3.5 million units on all platforms. MHW is not gonna do better than that most likely

>Gamefreak will spend most of their time upgrading the graphics
>Every other aspect of the game will feel as lifeless and barren as XY

Calling it now.

>>33242298
This stupid fucker is probably starting school in the morning. That's what his reasoning skills are slightly under norm. Once his balls drop he may develop better reasoning skills.

i think 300 is too much for a pokemon machine. will they make a switch mini for 200 when pokemon comes out??

>>33245282
Who know but it will be console price for games

>>33240638
>goes to Wikipedia and looks at total game sales
holy shit you're a stupid person

you do realize there is a difference between being the more successful franchise at a point in time and having sold more copies through an entire lifespan

I don't think people realize game freak doesn't make the Pokemon models it's made by creatures inc

So that's 150 employees things it's misleading

>>33240491
So how do we kill Matsuda? It's obvious Pokemon isn't reaching the potential it can becuase this man is senile, and he's basically in charge. Tajiri is too busy being autistic and collecting royalties, and the rest of them are in no position to defy him cause Matsuda has his little bitchboy Ohmori ready to take over as his successor.

>>33241558
then i'd quit, showdown is shit for battles. Rather play on 3ds.

>>33245294
yeah I'm really worried this will be the worst selling mainline pokemon game to date. You can get a 3DS + a pokemon game for well under 200, with the switch you are looking at well above 300.

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>>33241707
I will keep buying games cause I can AND what are YOU gonna do about it?

>new open world pokemon rpg
>everyone expects a game with all the regions, characters and evil teams
>it ends up being a basic rpg with 2 branched paths that don't differ a lot
>about 50 new pokemons bc fancy stuff means less content
>shitty plot
>regional pokedex underwhelming
>new region ends up being even smaller than alola
>25fps
>since switch has paid online now, you will have to pay to trade your pokemon with people
wait for it, fall 2019

>>33245406
>>since switch has paid online now, you will have to pay to trade your pokemon with people
Wasn't it confirmed for only some games?

>>33245391
If a game cost 59.99 and 3ds games cost 39.99

It doesn't need to sell the same amount if to make similar revenue

>>33241587
>Pokemon is about multiplayer
I see this everywhere, but then why are you all playing it then? This is a 18+ board, you supposedly don't get to hang out with friends and play Pokemon after school anymore. And if you do, you are in a very tiny minority.
>online multiplayer
Dies after 1 month because of the hassle of adding friend codes to do anything. Official Battle Spot is 95% filled with Japs and the formats suck. No one on /vp/ plays together, every forum I go to for battling/trading is VERY slow, the Discords I joined during the height of SM hype all grinded to a halt after a month, and even at their peak people did not play together on the 3DS, they only played on Showdown.

So tell me, where is this multiplayer focus if lonely adults holding full time jobs keep playing the series and online multiplayer is either dead or somehow so hidden I can't find it?

>>33245419
The games are intended for kids though who do multiplayer

Gamefreak doesn't care about 30 year olds gameplay wise. There gonna pandered to with nosalgia

>>33245418
I still think selling 10 million is a stretch.

If a 3ds Pokemon game

Sells 15 million copies at 39.99. The revenue is 599 million

If a switch Pokemon game

Loses 33% of fanbase. And sells

10 million copies for 59.99

The revenue is 599 million.

Switch wins

Here's something to think about:
>Pokemon games have always had the data saved to the cartridge.
>you could carry on playing your game even if you bought an updated console.
>switch saves to console and not cartridge or micro sd
>known cases of save data being wiped

Can save data even be written to a Switch Cartridge?

>>33245442
10 million depends on how switches are sold between now and it's release. Right now switch is outpacing the 3ds at the same time in sales

>>33245438
If that's the case, then it disproves that anon's notion that the only worth in Pokemon is the multiplayer, and if you don't partake in it then the games have nothing to offer compared to single player RPGs like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

Clearly people like the game enough even without access to the multiplayer. And older Pokemon games, with the online servers turned off, are still some of the most played and well liked games in the series, like HGSS, just go to any ROM download website and check out their rankings, Pokemon games will be at the top 5 every time.

>>33240491
>The two guys ruining pokemon sitting next to each other
I hope they put someone else in charge.

>>33245475
But in what way were sun and moon gameplay or story nostalgia for older fans?

>>33240699
I wonder where Pokemon would be now if it had gone first party after gen 2?

>>33240726
makes me wonder how much better the games would have been if we had known nothing, and then found red and blue with their awesome redesigns at the battle tree

oh well

>>33245540
Nintendo should really find a way to take over Gamefreak and end their shitty practices once and for all. Fucking gamefreak is the only company who gets away with being lazy and having considerable frame rate issues in their games.

>>33240806
It seems like they're still not certain what approach to take - should they focus more on a console experience, where you're playing for long periods of time
or a more similar handheld game? which is probably what they want, but they're getting data right now that most people are just using their switch as a console

they're waiting for christmas to see if kids take their switch outside and use that as an excuse to put out a game meant for quicker play-sessions, like Sun and Moon

>>33245454
yeah that's gonna change the way we play the game quite a bit, but then again few people will have multiple switches unlike the the DS/3DS where people have multiple ones per household. Also the fact that we can have multiple profiles on the console means that it's gonna be really easy to just replay the game for fun without having to wipe all your save data. And then bank lets you transfer the pokemon to your main save. Assuming pokemon on switch and bank will work like that, of course. There is a chance that the pokemon games will get special cartridges where save data is stored on cartridge.

>>33245455
Wish there was a graph with all console launches since the 3DS.

>>33241713
>rushed
Didn't bother reading after seeing that word. Not that I really bother reading autistic shitposters posts on /vp/ anymore beyond light skimming.

kys

>>33245543
It wouldn't have mattered if we didn't know. In fact, people would probably have been a lot more pissed to find out that after twenty minutes of beating the elite four, there's nothing to do in the game.

>>33245545
I'm not sure gamefreak is lazy, but they seemed to have a bizarre approach and antiquated methods from the start

It just feels like nintendo really wanted Pokemon to be this big video game franchise during gens 3 and 4, but game freak never let go and proceeded into infinite

>>33245555
>a game meant for quicker play-sessions, like Sun and Moon
>15 minute unskippable cutscenes

>>33245573
I'm not sure about that...
I just obtained all of the legendaries and fought all of the optional trainers after the post-game (like I do for every pokemon game), and that definitely took more than 20 minutes

>>33245579
Maybe you're right
I think the better way to express it is its designed to be stopped and started frequently
all the cutscenes makes it easy for kids to remember what's going on, and where to go

>>33245576
At least it looks like they're sort of listening to fans now. I'm convinced that Incineroar is only Fire/Dark because they knew that people would be pissed if they made another Fire/Fighting starter (not that it helped in any way since Incineroar is literally a Fire/Fighting starter). Also their rushed "we're totally making a game for the switch!" announcement means that they at least hear some things.

>>33245592
Right, these days game devs are expected to have a lot more communication, and gamefreak seems like a very "shy" company
it took them too long to come out to talk with us, but I'm sure we both have many interesting things to discuss

>>33245599
I think they need to go through a similar change that Zelda went through. The developers of Zelda games were following old 'rules' religiously to the point that their games felt very limited, and it wasn't until they broke all those rules that Zelda rose into popularity again. Gamefreak needs to learn this as well.

>>33245612
Well, hopefully Game Freak get enough pressure from the movers and shakers at Nintendo to get that sort of attitude

>>33245612
Zelda's situation is a bit tragic, because the fanbase kept deluding themselves into thinking it was all fine (and a lot still do this, instead proclaiming BOTW destroyed Zelda), despite the games being built on top and around of superficial elements that were only there for tradition, while the structure and spirit of the games themselves drifted further and further from the original vision that sparked the franchise in the first place, which was basically Miyamoto wanting an exploration game with a big world (inspired by his visits to countryside Japan) that combined light RPG fantasy elements with action gameplay. So in the newer games NPCs weren't there to just populate the fantasy setting anymore, "puzzles" weren't there to just give a deeper layer of item-environment interaction and world building, they were now all there was to the games and the absolute focus, these things became the core of the newer games, they became the ends and not the means, turning the games into big chore simulators with a structure so predictable you can sleep through it.

Pokemon doesn't have it nearly as bad as Zelda did, mainly because there wasn't such a shift in focus into shit that doesn't matter for nearly 20 years. Only real issue is the obsession on story-driven JRPG garbage that has taken hold since Masuda became director and has only gotten stronger, culminating in Sun/Moon. The reason this isn't as bad as Zelda's problem is that it's very easy to solve, there's no need to reinvent the entire game quite as hard as BOTW did, they just need to give a bit more player freedom, make the world more organic and bigger, and overall focus on the concept of a player-driven trainer setting out on a journey.

>>33245681
I feel bad that skyward sword even had to happen..

>>33241876
They want something new and innovative, this hack right here knows Pokemon sells on it's own so they're just going to make a quick cash grab.

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>USUM will probably have an acceptable post-game with a Battle Frontier and more
>Gen 8 will have better graphics, but will be so lifeless that Masuda doesn't even have high expectations for it
It's like B2W2 to XY all over again.

>>33245698
Only good Wii exclusive was the Super Mario Galaxy franchise, the Wii's motion gimmick plagued most of it's library and were only enjoyed by brain-dead casuals who wanted in on the new hip trend. Even the Wii U had better games than the original Wii.

>>33241047
i dont think Asia has as good as dental care as other places, which is why they are known to have basically yellow black teeth by their 50s or so

>>33245726
I don't think the former will be true, even.
They would have shown something other than an orange dog by now if that was the case.

Color me surprised if USUM actually has substantial endgame though, especially after Masuda putting out gems such as
>"Rather than any actual feedback from players, it's more accepting the realities of modern life," he said. "Kids these days or even people who grew up playing Pokemon--everyone is a lot more busy. There are a lot more things competing for a person's time than there were back then. For example, there are so many free games you can play on your phone now, there's so many entertainment options, so making it a little easier to play is the reason for that."
and
>"Using smartphones and other devices they can access a great number of games, so the time they dedicate to a single game is less than in the past. We didn't put the BF in ORAS for this very reason"

>>33245744
Only GF will develop their game around people NOT playing it and instead playing the competition. Unbelievably stupid.

>>33245744
B2W2 didn't even get it's first batch of info until 2 months prior to release. USUM is pretty much in the same boat

>>33241027
Idk why i found this so funny

>>33245744
maybe use that fucking reasoning to make cutscenes shorter you fuck.

>>33240991
Jim is sometimes funny but often a retard. "Quoting" him for anything is never a good idea unless you're just pointing out he said something.

>>33241394
The main formula, sure. The formula where they take everything on the side you might like and pretend it never existed in the next Gen? Not so fucking much.

I stick with it because A.) It makes me want to kill myself just that little bit less than is needed to go and actually do it and B.) Because I know it can be better and wish to see it be better.

And I'm pretty sure B would be the case for most people. Which I recognize is stupid... It's like throwing your money at a junkie who refuses to lay off the shit, but humans are stupid in general and sometimes it's hard to stop being stupid even when you know you are.

>>33240506
Good to know.

>>33241587
>Battling and trading with other players has always been the main focus of this series. Everything else is a mere afterthought.
Trading, yes. Battling, no. Battling too was an afterthought.

>>33242002
>Hand holdy mediocre childrens games are not worth your time. No matter how buttmad you get about this.
Why are you playing them then?

>>33242415
The problem with that is that even a cheap console becomes a bad investment when you buy it solely for one game
You should try expand your game catalog, anon, there's great games out there for free you can use to explore which game flavour it's best for you before getting bucks in the ecuation

Competitive is a cancer further ruining pokemon

>>33240514
Yes. This board is a culprit. If you stay off vp and those faggot poketubers during the 'hype' period before a game, it makes the game way more fun.

They will release at least 2 generations in switch.
So they will be saving something for gen 9 instead of giving their all for gen 8.

>>33240958
>creatures inc. owns 33% of the franchise
>nintendo owns 100% of that
>nintendo owns 53% of GF, which is 18% of franchise
so technically nintendo owns 84% of the franchise
wew

>>33245726
When will be saved from this endless dissapoint and despair

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>>33245349
>Matsuda
>In charge
kek

>>33240958
>Creautres

>>33241431
The entire interview was them saying that they are making a switch game and will try to meet the high expectations from the fans, not that the game will be mediocre. Did you even watch the interview?

>>33246318
My dad works at john gamefreak and he told me that this months corocoro will leak that the switch game will be mediocre.

>>33240855
The translation here isn't accurate. The real translation there was "Don't expect, buy a Switch and wait".

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>>33240916

Wow anon, you mean to tell me the guy posting a Lillie picture, calling Lillie best girl, is a Lilliefag? However did you know?

REE

>>33240669
>Pokemon beats Mario when you apply MY rules!

>>33241431
Do you even weeaboo? Nips always play down their stuff. They could literally win the award for best game ever and still try to look humble.

That's not me saying it won't be shit but still

>>33240501
>Kijimbo make a Poekyman gaem
>GOAT forever

>>33245744
>believes children are too stupid and have short attention spans
>proceeds to make games with ridiculously long and uneventful cutscenes

>>33246730
Masuda might be dumber than his intended audience

>>33240514
Pokemon games suffer from being rushed so that Game Freak can shit out a new game every year. I'm giving Game Freak the benefit of the doubt and assuming that they would actually release polished, full-featured games if time wasn't a restraint for them.

>>33240491
At least now I know not to expect anything worth my time.

>>33246573
>Give away free copies of game
HA, I SOLD MORE THAN YOU!

>>33246573
What rules the person said Pokémon I'd currently bigger than Mario.

3ds games pokemon had 1, 2, 4 highest sellers

Pokemon go was way way bigger than super mario run

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>>33245557
Only Japan.

>>33240491
I have a feeling its because people are expecting zelda style open world and they are still trying to figure out consol style areas. Like a consol worthy viridian forest is a big step in itself. Expect the game to still be in broken down areas and paths.

Also BOTW sucks and is a Zelda tech demo more than anything.

>>33240635
Pokemon is almost a yearly dingus.

>>33247638
It's like cod or fifa

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>>33245576
Gamefreak is both lazy AND incompetent. Remember when they were struggling to even FINISH G/S because they couldn´t find a way to fit it in the cart until BASED Shiggy Miyamoto came to help the retards and managed to also fit Kanto in the games?

Gamefreak were the original Notch:

Incompetent developers that didn´t know what they were doing, but had an idea so great that people lapped it up regardless of how shitty the outcome was sheerly on the strength of that very concept.

Gamefreak are qualified Character Designers, but they´re absolute shit Game Designers. Pokemon Switch is going to be an one of the biggest disappointments of all time unless they suck up their pride and let most of the actual qualified Nintendo employees develop the game while taking the back role as Supervisors and Character Designers themselves. After all, this could be the actual biggest project Nintendo has ever had in their hands, and it could single-handedly catapult the Switch from a modest success into an actual Videogame blockbuster.

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>>33240491
>They release USUM extended version for the switch in Oct 2019
>Graphics stay almost the same, because the switch couldn't handle an upgrade
>Story didnt change at all
>You are able to fly just like in ORAS
>All the "OPEN WORLD" you will get
>You are now able to visit "Zones" from older games, just like a safari zone
>First DLC will add 20 "new" pokemon
>Recolors they are calling "alolan forms"
>3 more DLCs will be released over the next year
>Adding nothing but funny mini games
>Fans will love it

Cant wait.

>>33248087
If your gonna shit on game freak atleast get your facts right it was iwata who helped game freak not that shiggy dude

>>33248087
Who should gamefreak team up with?

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>>33248170
You´re totally right. I misremembered. I´m only shitting on them as game designers. I already stated that they are good at both Pokemon and Character design. Don´t take it personal.

>>33248196
They should just let Nintendo absorb them already. The Pokemon series is hitting its apex and they need all the Manpower they can get. 100 people aren´t gonna cut it anymore. In a perfect world at the very least they´d let Level-5 team up with them. Notice that i said at the very least.

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>>33248141

>>33240491
God I hate Masuda so goddamn much

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Even mashable covering it

>>33248337
>Even mashable
Literally who?

>>33248232
please stop capitalizing random words like a retard, thanks

>>33246016
Hahaha

>>33246212
That isn't surprising, is it?

>>33248087
Iwata helped them compress the data, not Miyamoto. Miyamoto is an ideas man and therefore a hack.

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>>33248337
>meanwhile at Siliconera

>>33248544
They took omhori quote instead of masuda

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I hope switchfags (aka GOfags) die in a fire for trying to normiefy my franchise

>>33245733
I thought the Punch-Out! remake was pretty great. It had optional waggle but you could choose to use the exact same control scheme as the NES game.

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>>33248972
>DON´T NORMIFY THE MOST NORMIE FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME!

Top kek. Kill yourself, frogposter.

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>>33249768
LOL

>>33240569
>blame the fans because shitty devs don't know how to make the jump from 2D to 3D
>meanwhile every company in the past 20 years have been able to

Get that cock out of your mouth retard.

>>33248087
>BASED Shiggy Miyamoto
That was Iwata you uncultured fuck.
Miyamoto is yet another hack who keeps ruining the games other peoples makes because he doesn't like their ideas and they've gotta be bland and boring and safe because that's how he likes it.

Wow.
The only game devs I hear that come out of is ones making crowd funded games... and even then they have the 'IT'S JUST THE BETA' excuse most of the time.

>>33240506
> Open World
HAHAHAHAHA.....no.....

> Every Region
Not out of the question. Alola works fine on the 3DS within 3gbs. Seeing Breath of the wild takes up 13gb boosting past regions up to Sun and Moon quality wouldn't be much more than that. But this is game freak so they probably won't even do that.

>>33249768
do you actually think that Pokémon is the normiest franchise ever?

>>33240643

haha this.

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>>33240643
:^)

>>33241847
B8

>>33240491
Pokémon was already shit, even GF knows