>tough claws >on a pure rock type LOL IT'S SHIT

Accel rock makes contact

>>33238249
So?

>>33238230
Fire Fang and Thunder Fang make contact too.

>>33238279
HAHA EPIN NON STAB USELESS FANG MOVES!!!! XDDDDDD
BOOSTED!!!!! HOW USEFUL AND EPIC ;DDD

>>33238249
>implying it gets Accelrock

>>33238306
>The first images from CoroCoro has been released, showcasing the magazine's segment on Lycanroc Dusk Form. In it, it doesn't show much but does show that the new form gets both Accelrock and Counter, moves heavily associated with the other two forms as well as the ability Tough Claws. It also states that there will be a gift of Rockruff being given from November 17th 2017. We're currently investigating and awaiting clearer images to get further information so be sure to keep checking bac

>>33238312
Day/Night Doggo BTFO

Tough Claws boosted moves:

-Accelrock
-Sucker Punch
-Fire Fang/Thunder Fang

Wow it's fucking nothing

>>33238256

>best offensive type in the game gets priority, and a way to boost it

What do you think, so? It will still be PU because it's typing and stats, but this is a big upgrade over day

>>33238344
Because we know its full movepool, right?

>>33238354
>best offensive type in the game
we're talking about rock here, not flying

>>33238357
Do you honest think Gamefreak are going to give it more moves?

They couldn't even be bothered to use a different model.

>>33238428
Maybe it'll get some tutor moves

>>33238428
Giving a Pokemon more moves is certainly easier than designing a new model, also >>33238465

>>33238312

>Given away via Distro

Well fuck, normal Rockruff aren't going to be able to evolve into this thing.

>>33238249
>extremely low base power
at least it can somewhat power up bite attacks which happen to be its best coverage since it's not bipedal and can't into punch attacks

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>>33238230

Baka desu ne, the coverage moves being boosted is all it needs.

>>33238230
the type is not really stated yet in corocoro so we don't know if it's pure rock

>>33238598
>Extremely low base power
You mean like Bullet Punch and Scizor?
40*1.5=60
40*1.33=53

>>33238697

Bullet punch gets stab and priority. Don't fucking compare it to a 53 base power fire fang

>>33238734
He's talking about Accelerock not Fire Fang, idiot.

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>>33238230
>>on a pure rock type
really ? I thought it would be water type

>>33238686
stop being delusional
all of them are pure smogon pebbles type

>>33238305
>useless

It now has more powerful moves to cuck the likes of Ferrothorn and Tapu Fini, on top of having access to Swords Dance and Life Orb.
Watch this have 100+ BST because its an eventmon and we might get the new Ash-Greninja

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>>33238617
tfw dusk lycanroc is slower than lycanrock day and base 100s

call me when it gets EQ (it'll prob at least get Aqua Tail via tutors, better than nothing)

>>33238734
No I'm addressing accelerock
But now that you mention it, the fangs get an effective 86bp with the chances to flinch and the additional effect

>>33238815
Why would it be?
It's literally my Ash's dog, which means another Ash-Greninja treatment

>>33238357
They didn't give Aerodactyl any new moves when it got Tough Claws.

>>33238853
Aerodactyl wasnt the shillmon

>>33238344
>Implying this is bad

>>33238344
>2 priority moves and 2 coverage moves
>>wow it's fucking nothing

>>33238354
>big upgrade
30%, basically a Life Orb
Accelerock has 40 BP
40+30%=52
>big upgrade

>>33239070
No EQ, no chance.

>>33238230
I think Carrotroc is half fire.

If you look closer in its coro coro article you'll see it using some kind of Z-move, probably it's signature Z-move using a fire type attack.

>>33239102
Why are you retards ignoring STAB?

50 * 1.3 * 1.5 = 78

>>33239123
>double weaknesses to water and ground

good

>>33238853

Aerodactyl already has a good movepool to begin with

>>33239130
40*, not 50. It's still 78 after STAB regardless.

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>>33239130
A-anon... It had stab before this, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>33239134

Rock/Fire is fucking amazing offensive typing, it's just stuck on a slow defensive Pokemon like Magcargo.

People need to stop looking at typing purely defensively.

>>33239102
Doesn't accelerock have 103 base power after tough claws and STAB with a LO?

>>33239149
What are YOU talking about? If people can say that Scizor's Bullet Punch is 90 BP after Technician and STAB then we can say Lycanroc Dusk's Accelerock is 78 BP after Tough Claws and STAB.

>>33239110
EQ doesn't even get the tough claws boost

>>33239164
I was talking about the Tough Claws improvement. Not STAB or how much damage it does afterwards.

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>>33238230

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It gets the fire typing, and access to flareblitz

If it's 115+ Speed banded could be a good set

>>33239164
>78
damn, it isn't even unstab Espeed tier. RU for life unless it gets something nice like the Ashninja treatment

>>33238230
It gets brick break too fags, while it's not amazing it at least something

>>33239867
>PU for life, NU if it gets something nice like the Ashninja treatment
FTFY

>it knows Accelerock and Counter, and it has Tough Claws

So the other two forms are completely pointless. They might as well have made this the sole Lycanroc form. What a waste.

>>33240219
>Pokemon that are outclassed by another Pokemon are completely pointless
What does your dex look?

>>33238465
Best it can get is Iron Tail. Superpower is very slim but might get it. Apart from that there isn't anything relatively good it can get unless of course they add a few new moves.

The most important question now is this; what will shiny Dusk form look like? Blue like Rockruff and Midday, retarded like Night, or something different like purple or lime green?

>>33240366
Superpower is actually quite likely. A lot of animal mons get it, even four legged ones like absol and luxray.

>>33240384
I feel like it will be a blue palette in between the first 2 forms' shinies kinda like the regular colour

>>33240273
This case is special,because it's the same fucking pokémon.

>>33240427
But Mightyena Houndoom and Furfrou don't so it's not 100% certain. I also forgot to mention Zen headbutt that is actually likely and useful. Knock off would be cool if it gets but that's also not guaranteed.

>>33240366
What about Zen Headbutt or Aqua Tail or Outrage?

>>33240477
Aqua tail is highly unlikely while zen headbutt is very likely. Outrage is just bad just give it ice fang for Christ's sake. They should also buff fang moves next gen to 75 they are just not good enough.

>>33240592
if fucking leech life got buffed, anything is possible

>>33238230
Barbanacle is Rock/Water and looks were it is now.

>>33240451
Except in design, stats, movepool, ability and every other way except name.
Some people play this incredibly easy childs game with Pokémon they like over the objective best Pokémon. Those people won't give a shit how outclassed he is.
Some people play this completely competitively and they won't give a shit if they prefer a different design.
What exactly is the problem?

>>33240667
NU?

actually why GF is making useless pokemon? I don't get it

>>33240763
It's taken you 20 years to ask?

>>33240219
Midnight has No Guard as Ability, making it the only Rock-type with accurate STABs (not counting Accelerock).

>>33240763
How is it useless? Elaborate.

>>33240873

many have shit stats, shit movepools, and can be killed by one outrage of garchomp or any other OU mon, I just don't understand why they can't make all monsters equal with new stats rising method

>>33239155
Yup, so essentially you have a 102 BP priority move on a Pokémon with 115 Base Attack. After a Swords dance boost, you'll OHKO anything that's is weak to rock. And that's on a fucking Priority Move.

>>33240840
> making it the only PHYSICAL Rock-type with accurate STABs
Fixed

>>33240904
>le fanfics tiers
>every mon must be as powerful as garchomp
>every mon must have mew's moovpool
>fuck diversity, let's make everything equal and boring

If your tone wasn't serious, I'd have thought you were memeing

>>33240904
>OU
GF doesn't give a shit about fanfic meta

>>33238230

Tough Claws on a (presumably) base 120 attack Pokemon is actually pretty decent. Not shit like the other two.

The only thing that will break this Pokemon is whether or not it has the same base speed as Midday, or if it is going to be slower. Because if it's slower, it's not going to do that well.

>>33238305

Fire Fang = 65 x 1.3 = 84.5 (rounded down to 84). There is also a 10% chance that it either burns or flinches an opponent.

Thunder Fang = 84 again. 10% chance of either flinching or paralyzing an opponent.

That's better than the elemental fucking punches (75 BP) that people carry on Pokemon for coverage. Fire Fang is good on those Grass- and Steel-types, while Thunder Fang is good coverage on Water-types.

Accuracy of Fang movesis 90% instead of 100%, so that's the only real disadvantage here.

Hopefully Lycanroc Dusk gets more coverage moves (and it gets the really good tutor moves that are affected by Tough Claws such as Superpower).

>>33239150
But my 4x weakness memes

>>33241021
Base 115 attack, anon. Base 115.

>>33240904

This may come as a surprise to you, but Gamefreak balances Pokemon based on using them in their games, not competitive level stuff.

>>33240954

yes, because having 70 bst mon is something healthy to the meta with the OU and ubers

>>33241100

so why we have online battles and rankings and stuff?

I'm using OU and ubers only as example

>>33238305
This is the kind of poster who plays the story and nothing else

>>33241137
>70 bst mon
What did he mean by this?

Also
>OU and ubers
Can you stop spouting about your fanfiction """metas""" for a second?

>>33241100
True, Game Freak balances out Pokemon by giving them realistic base stats for what they are intended to do (a wolf is fast and powerful but not too bulky). But they also try to make Pokemon that work well in VGC.

Many of the Gen VII Pokemon have moves or abilities that are more suited for Doubles than Singles.

>>33241100
You mean balances them based on using them in their games not on a board about calculators and fanfic writers. Pokémon has a competitive scene, smogon isn't it.

>>33241100
>Gamefreak balances Pokemon based on using them in their games, not competitive level stuff.
Lol.Google ingame tiers and come back when you learn how to not spout bullshit.

>>33241175
>>33241182
>>33241195
>>33241223
>>33241803
HAHAHAHAHA

lol

:-)

>>33238499
Do the dustributed pokes have its own owner or is set as if it was mine (aka will it gain traded poke exp?)

>>33241223

smogon may not be the actual scene but we should agree that having lack of support for weaker mon [especially slower] is just ridiculous, they are not even trying, mon like I don't know... magcargo or houndoom or typhlosion are shit

>>33241934
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_notable_ID_numbers

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>completely invalidates the other two forms
>might just be event only because of a Rockruff coming on the same day as USUM

Why didn't Yokai Watch take the fuck off and actually be a competitor to make these halftards do better?