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I honestly don't understand why pokemon fan instantly hate this series. Truth be told the Xros Wars season is honestly what I wanted both pokemon and digimon to be in the first place

>Monsters and humans are equals
>Humans are treated as party members instead of trainers
>overarching goal to be achieved
>the each one of the cast having a reason for going on said journey
>intimidating adversaries with their own motives
>twists and turns in the plot
>Monsters as villains instead of dipshit team leaders
>varied monster landscapes and realms
>bad ass music and battle themes
>transformations and specials

Honestly I love the designs for the both, but the shows and games are just so lacking. It's such a shame.
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>I honestly don't understand why pokemon fan instantly hate this series
The same reason Digimon fans hate pokemon
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>>33191080
It's because of a contrived artificial 'rivalry' that people seem adamant to make between Pokemon and Digimon, it pretty much started because kids were being tards and going 'well they both end with Mon so they must be against each-other' and it never really left.
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>>33191080
Number one rule of Xros Wars: don't talk about Hunters, mainly because it ruined almost everything good about Xros Wars.
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>>33191118
my sentiments exactly
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Tamers was incredible and this is without any nostalgic sentiment. Legitimately hilarious at times and brutally sad at others
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It's almost like people dislike Pokémon clones in general or something.
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>>33191080
>Monsters and humans are equals
Stopped reading right there
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>>33191195
stop being a 12 year old dude
Instead of capturing animal like monsters in balls.
"Hey, kid with that Xros loaders, your tactics and my brawn we could take back this land from these baddies! Whaddya say."
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>>33191080
Pokemon fans hate Digimon because 90% of the designs are fucking terrible.

For every cool thing like Garurumon (of memory serves right) you have 10 terrible designs.

Source= pic you posted is pure fucking garbage design and exactly why Digimon is hated.
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>>33191249
Whats wrong with it?
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>>33191253
I have taste. Unlike Digimon fans.
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>>33191255
>I literally have no argument
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How many thousands of crappy Digimon are there by now? At least Game Freak has some sense.
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>>33191259
Oh argument was found in my initial post. Where is yours?

Right. Stop defending shit.
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>>33191275
Literally what's wrong with it?
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>>33191249
You are a little girl who wants to play with animals
Get hit by a bus
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Kinda agree with most anons,
For me a lot of digimon look really dumb.
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There is no quality control in Digimon. All about making as many abominations as possible.
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>>33191080
>honestly
>honestly
>honestly

Learn how to format your own thoughts like an educated adult, goddamn.
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Stop arguing about Digimon
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>>33191294
>>33191299
EXPLAIN! You all say they look terrible but you have no explanation, it's a group think hivemind.
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>>33191080
Oh shiiiit, is that a new Digimon? The only thing I hate about Digimon is we have no sites to search for any latest addition to the species.
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>>33191080
I love Digimon, it's just that there's no 'out there' source of official material for us to get to know new addition and stuff. They don't even tease new Digimon in the magazines for new games either except key Digimons.
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>>33191368
It's a board specifically made for Pokemon, like what do you want from us anon
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I'm generally fine with Digimon's designs but I really dislike most of the Megas designs being some armored humanoids or a rather overdesigned dragon and since more often than not, most of the new Megas seems to be either of those two, its kinda hard for me to be exited for new Digimons.
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>>33191425
seems like pokemon fans want pets and not allies.
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>>33191381
Yes and have fun..
https://wikimon.net/
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>>33191436
But what if my pet IS my ally?
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>>33191425
Fucking hideous.
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>>33191436
Funny you say that when Digimon started out as a Virtual Pet

>>33191453
And what the hell is wrong with Gryphonmon?
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>>33191425
You had to post that,
1. It's a chimera
2. That thing is old as shit
3. It's usually just an enemy

>>33191443
Well you know what I mean.
Them being sentient beings who fight for the thrill of battle or to protect the fragile humans instead of animals being captured in the wild.
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>>33191080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMP3DMy8b7Y
ok digimon is totally decent and you totally watch it for the plot

now fuck off
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Remember this:

"Long ago, when Sinnoh had just been
made, Pokémon and humans led
separate lives.
That is not to say they did not help
each other. No, indeed they did.
They supplied each other with goods,
and supported each other.
A Pokémon proposed to the others
to always be ready to help humans.
It asked that Pokémon be ready to
appear before humans always.
Thus, to this day, Pokémon appear
to us if we venture into tall grass."

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sinnoh_myths
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>>33191385
you just haven't looked hard enough
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There is no rivalry. A rivalry is when 2 competive things clash. This is not the case

Pokemon is golden state warriors or Real Madrid

Digimon is Brooklyn nets
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>>33191469
>33191469
LET'S SEE IT.
That's the major problem with pokemon.

LET'S SEE THE SHIT HAPPENING IN THE POKEDEX ENTRIES IN GAME.

DON'T TELL US, SHOW US.
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>>33191462
>laser titties
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>>33191263
More like GF are lazier than whoever makes Digimon.
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>>33191080
Each one of them has its own set of flaws, some more glaring than others, but I like them both equally. It's kind of difficult to ascertain any bad qualities about Digimon and accurately compare them to Pokemon, though, seeing as each iteration of Digimon introduces entirely new ideas that wholly differentiates it from past titles whereas Pokemon remains pretty much the same for the most part. Looking at both the games and anime here, if that weren't obvious enough already.
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>>33191486
The Digimon games are mostly by Bandai.
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>>33191462
Yes... lots of plot....
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>>33191453
griffomon is objectively one of the best designed digimon that ever made, you fucking heathen
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>>33191516
What? Everyone knows that digimon evolve from tiny blobs to small animals to bigger animals to human beings to generic mechas.
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Waifus are actually waifus without Deviantard distorting it .
Plus the anime is more like a Japanese anime than Pokemon
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>>33191512
>>33191462
Wait, are those human characters from the anime or are they actual digimon?
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>>33191512
Yes...the plot is very...interesting
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>>33191527
Hagurumon-Guardromon-Andromon-HiAndromon
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The only things I remember of all that are Lilithmon and Mervamon. However the digimon anime is still better than the pokemon anime.
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>>33191486
more ≠ better
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>>33191117
this, retarded factionalism based on literally nothing but empty headed little kids buying into bs marketing
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please look at this fucking garbage
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>>33191692
I'm just waiting for their next anime project. Enough with phone apps please. Disgusting.
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S1 is not as great as people remember. There are few well executed epsiodes and they are far between. The bloated cast results in many of the kids only getting two, or even just one episode of backstory or development.
I also don't know where this meme that Matt is the badboy comes from. Tai is easily the biggest asshole of the group. Skullgreymon was the result of him threatening to abandon Agumon if he didn't force himself to be stronger and there's that episode where he physically attacks Izzy for no goddamn reason.
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>>33191080
I disliked it as a kid because it was the first thing I saw that screamed ‘shitty knockoff’ to me.
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>>33191692
It's not a bad show. I'd say it's more interesting and feels more natural than Tri.
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>>33191692
The anime quality has been going downhill ever since tamers, savers was ok though

at least Appmon is a spin-off like persona games are to SMT.
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>>33191249
90%? The only problem I have with Digimon designs is the overabundance of humanoid Digimon once you read Mega/Perfect. I think a lot of the smaller monsters really get the 'monster' part down better than Pokemon. Only ghost and bug Pokemon really compete.
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>>33191752
Xros Wars was much MUCH better than Savers. God Savers was dull.
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>>33191692
it's actually not that bad..

It's no xros, but hey
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>>33191425
Isn't Gryphomon one of the original Megas?
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>>33191099
Not all Digimon fans hate Pokemon though. In fact most digibros I talk to like Pokemon as well. Both franchises have their merits and they both fill different roles for the most part. Brand loyalty to the point of hating something that could even looks like it competes with something you like is straight up autism on either side regardless.
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>>33191939
yeah, it wasn't even useable in most of the games except 2 where everything was available.

Other than that it was regulated to enemy status .
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>>33191761
>overabundance of humanoids and mechas
Thank you. The Ultimate/Mega stage ruined Digimon. Digivolution should have stoped at Ultimate/Perfect.
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>>33191737
That's because it is a knock-off. Pokémon started with the Red and Green games in February 1996, Digimon with the Tamagotchi-like device in June 1997.
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>>33192073
but pokemon and digimon aren't even similar games
digimon is a pokemon knock off, then pokemon is a SMT knock off
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>>33192088
Digimon World Dawn and Dusk were clearly knock-offs of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, though. And it doesn't help that they were also released on the DS.
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>>33192105
did you play those games?
they play drastically different from pokemon they have different evolution systems, they play more like an rpg with monster collecting mechanics than pokemon
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>>33191080
>Be a pokefag.
>See digimon for the first time
>Think the designs are a little weird, but love them eventually
>Get tired of "brave heart" in the process

Can't wait for Hacker's Memory!
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>>33191284
It's overdesigned imo, too much going on with it.
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>>33192455
Not him, but digimon is not overdesigned, it's just pokemon that's too simplified, just look at tons of others JRPGs and stuff.

imo no style is inferior to the other, they have different goals with different charms.
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Pokémon fans dislike Digimon for two reasons:

1) they see it as a competitor to Pokémon and people LOVE to take sides in dumb console wars. See Mario vs. Sonic, Quake vs. Tribes, Quake vs. Halo, Quake vs. Unreal, even just JRPGs vs. WRPGs.

2) Pokémon fans seem to project their expectations of Pokémon onto Digimon. In reality, Pokémon is to Dragon Quest 5 what Digimon is to Digital Devil Story. They take one element from another game (monster raising from DQV and demon fusion from DDS), tweak it, combine it with something else (bug catching/collecting for Pokémon and digital pets for Digimon) and just run with it from there.

So there's this idea that Digimon, like Pokémon, are supposed to be collectable animals, which is not the case. This is why many Digimon are humanoid or mechanical, they're a combination of Megaten's demons and the more traditional digital pet monsters, rather than Pokémon which are a combination of standard JRPG monsters with real life animals.


In short, Digimon and Pokémon are two entire separate games. Their basic premise is the same but go in wildly different directions with it, yet still Pokémon fans criticize Digimon solely for not being like Pokémon. They complain that Digimon "don't look like animals" and such things, but the franchise was never about that, so they might as well be criticizing Dragon Quest's enemies for being too cartoony compared to Final Fantasy's.
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>>33191080
They didn't grow up with it, when Digimon was big it competed with Pokemon and there was a rivalry for the niche, later generations Pokemon was the clear marketing victor and Digimon faded out until recently with CS/N0.

The rivalry never really broke but nearly every Pokemon fan I have shown Digimon has gotten into it after some convincing. It literally comes down to breaking a biased mentality.

>>33191099
Hi, Digitard here. Guess who also loves Pokemon, and any other monster collector for that matter.
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>>33193102
Ladies and Gentlemen. The most intelligent post on /vp/ in years.
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>>33191733
>I also don't know where this meme that Matt is the badboy comes from.
He told Metalgarurumon to attack Wargreymon simply because that tree digimon talked to him, or something like that. But yeah, Tai was a bitch
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>>33193102
What is your opinion of Telefang, Monster Hunter, Yo-kai Watch, etc.?
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>>33191425
this is a better griffin design than silvally
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>>33193243
Maybe because Silvally isn't a Griffin it's a Chimera.
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>>33193234
>monster hunter
That one isn't even the same genre of gameplay save for the recent spinoff, but I do think the argument applies to them as well
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My problem with Digimon is that it doesn't have a single good game. It's such wasted potential.
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>>33193458
there is this guy
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>>33193234
I've never played YW, but my impression is that, to use my wording from before, it's to Pokémon what Pokémon is to Dragon Quest V, clearly heavily inspired by Pokémon but tweaked.

Telefang are pretty close to the line between inspired-by-Pokemon and cashing-in-on-Pokemon.

>>33193458
Can I ask what problems you have with Digimon World and its remake, the Digimon Story games, etc?
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>>33193538
In general there's just usually something that stops me from enjoying the game. Like not feeling like I have enough control over the Digimon. Or the digivolution system being fucking retarded. Or when your digimon "dies" of old age and regresses to an egg, forcing you start the fuck over for no good reason.

It's like every time they keep making something that might be good, but then they just add tedium that turns the experience to be mediocre as fuck. I don't particularly think they're bad, they're just not good.
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>>33191099
So, they don't?

I don't like the newer Digimon stuff (save Adventure tri since it continues after season 2) but those I do I love. Not as much as Pokémon but if I sat down and thought about it, it'd probably be in my top 25 favorite series.
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They are game mechanics that don't scale well, hence why they are absent from pokemon...

I may also add that this tedium was just implemented because digimon was a rebranded tamagotchi line and digimon world has such features.
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>>33193278
actually it resembles both of them
pokemon designs can have more than one inspiration, you know
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>>33191080
People tend to think digimon are meant to be pokemon and dislike the more humanoid/demonic/mechanical designs but truth be told digimon has always had those three since its conception. Maramon/devimon/metalGreymon
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They're jealous a Pokemon anime will never sniff Tamers' quality.
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>>33195286
Digifags truly are obnoxious. Your games are garbage in comparison, get over it.
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>>33191080
Xros Wars is fucking cancer.
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>>33195293
CyberSleuth>Gen6 and gen 7 so far
So idk what you're talking about anon
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>>33195531
explain.
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>>33191533
yup those are actual digimon, hence why I said it's good to see monsters as equals.
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I never got the Pokemon vs Digimon war mentality. I grew up during the later 90s and early 00s where Pokemon and Digimon were most popular, and there were no debates where I come from about which was the best or what ripped of who and such, personally for the longest times I considered Pokemon to have the better games and Digimon to have the better anime, but Cyber Sleuth was such a fun ride for me that I kinda can see Digimon rival Pokemon if they get more exposure.

And to be fair, Digimon is more like SMT than it is like Pokemon, design wise, narrative wise and the use of religion and mythology-wise.
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