Be honest, what was your first reaction upon seeing pic related?

They really ruined Serena by making her shorter than a gook boy.

>>33152002
It was exactly... "Why do retards keep watching this pile of shite they know won't go anywhere because the production staff have admitted it won't ever go anywhere?".

Which makes sense because it is my reaction in general every time I see a screenshot or clip of the anime no matter the content.

>>33152002

Joy because it means that Shitrena can never return

>>33152002
Pic related? I watched the episode live. I was pretty shocked to be honest. Never did anyone believe that XY would end with Serena kissing Ash.

At most I expected a huge or a fond farewell handshake, definitely didn't expect them to go the extra mile. And then have Serena promised to reunite with him along with Yajima confirmed it's endgame. Even if we never see Serena again, at least it's largely implied far in the future outside of the anime that it's meant to be.

>>33152026
>Yajima confirmed it's endgame

He didn't, he said that you're meant to hope and assume that it is, and even so, he's not the director anymore, so his word means jack shit

Serena has already been forgotten and replaced, so it means fuck all

>M-muh Yajima said it's canon

Oguro (Interviewer): I haven't watched the episode, so this might be a stupid question, but did Serena's love (for Ash) come to fruition? (Note: This interview was conducted hours before the final episode)

Yajima (Director): It didn't in the episode. I ended it in a way that her love will hopefully come to fruition in the future. Serena told Ash that she's going to improve herself, and then come back to him. Afterwards, she did something that's revolutionary-worthy (laugh). In the middle of production, I added in a scene intended to show them kissing. It's just that I wasn't allowed to have them kissing on screen, so I had Serena's feet "floating" to show it instead.

Oguro: So depending on how you view it, it seems like they might be kissing, right?

Producer (No name): No, it should look like they were definitely kissing.

Yajima: (Laugh) Whether they kissed or she whispered something in his ear, that scene was supposed to be ambiguous.

Oguro: For Pokemon, the XY series is quite the transition. In XY, you guys included a scene where Serena was thinking if she was on a date with Ash when they were walking on the street, blushing and all. The drama itself is quite interesting, but it does make you think how her feeling will be brought to conclusion.

Yajima: I was the one who wrote the final episode, but I tend to put my pen down whenever it's their parting scene. "How should I end it so that it'd be fair for her" tend to be the reason.

Producer: The actual scene differed from the screenplay, after all.

Yajima: That is true (laugh). The scene had her riding on the escalator for a bit, and then she ran back up and kissed him. Naturally, the escalator will take her down again, right? So while she's kissing him, she'll be pulled away. That's the scene that I wanted to make.

Producer: Kids are the main target audience, after all, so among the things we can't do, this series is definitely on the edge.

That's all he said

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>>33152002

i didnt care because the shallow, poorly written, non-developmental love interest between two 10 year olds means nothing on a story

>>33152002

I never gave a fuck about it because it was completely one-sided, and Serena herself was the flattest of all of the main girls in terms of character

>>33152046
Pretty cool, anon! Thanks.

>>33152002
laughed that the writers would actually make serena go that far, only to get shafted in the same ep

It was a pointlessly cute subplot nothing more.

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>>33152002
Satoshi and Serena have a special bond in their relationship from their childhood and always. They live many moments together demonstrating their feelings, concerns and love between them. Serena confesses and kisses the boy who loves Satoshi, do them special and unforgettable canonizing their love&relationship to the world.

I'm just glad that it shut up the "BRING SERENA TO ALOLA!!!!!!!!" retards

That was probably the point of the kiss: to give her a satisfying sendoff and shut Serenafags up

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>>33152002

Then she went back with the real champion.

>>33152261
at leats post artist name, moron

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>There are still people who think Serena will come back and steal screentime from based Lillie

lmao

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ITT

>>33152360

>anyone who dislikes/doesn't care about muh amour is a mistyfag

Go back to DeviantArt, AmourShitter

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>>33152360

ITP

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>>33152002
Holy crap, they actually did it. And TPCi didn't make them make it so it was super vague or looked like something else or some other 4kids-esque censorship. The absolute madmen. I'm very okay with this.

Serena was really set up as endgame. But the series is never ending, so a director 10 years from now could do another subplot with Ash.

>>33152002
Joy. But the best of it has come during these last months, seeing all the butthurt and denial caused by best girl winning.

>>33152002
"Now amourshitters are going to think they 'won'".

>>33152598
>>33152640
Like clockwork

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Here you are some pasta if comfort you and stop post things like this.

>>33152002
>tfw after 20 years even ash had his first kiss and I'm still waiting

>>33152689
You'll find the right guy/girl eventually anon never give up hope

Also on topic, I think Serena had one of the more interesting character developments of the whole ashnime and I would love an appearance in sun/moon but I know it won't happen

>>33152758
>I know it won't happen
Most of the other girls have returned, so why would you know it "won't" happen? If anything, you should know it will happen.

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>>33152002
That a thread just died for it.

>>33152471
>Serena was really set up as endgame.

No she wasn't, it was just a failed marketing stunt

>>33152471

They already are doing another subplot with Lillie

Serena is dead and forgotten

>>33152002
Triggered.

>>33152002
<3

>>33152033
The salt is real here.

>>33153070
Whatever helps you sleep well.

>>33153092

Yajima got booted off of the anime staff for the shitshow that XY was and placed on movie duty

He's not the director anymore, Daiki Tomiyasu is

>>33153092
>salt
That statement implies he unironically believes anything he's posting, when it's far more likely that he's just using it as a shitposting/trollbaiting device.

Literally nobody in Japan gives two shits about Serena or Amour anymore, they're too busy worshiping the current main girl, Lillie

>>33152002
Dumbfounded. Soon after, i felt Pokemon was becaoming something better than I expected. And weeks after, SM came and destroyed my happiness.

>>33153152
Who hurt you?

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>>33152002
I was surprised they did it only at the very last second,whats the point of it happening if she just runs away from him after instead of catching another flight?It had to have been closure for the shippers.

>literally can't criticize Serena or Amour without being called butthurt or a shitposter

This is why I filtered /padt/.

>>33153106
The staff wanted the romacne between Ash and Serena not Yajima himself.

>>33153207
>It had to have been closure for the shippers.

That's exactly what it was. They were just throwing the AmourShippers a bone to shut them up forever, nothing more.

Holy shit this salt.

>>33153228

And all of those staff members left after XYZ

>>33153262
Tomioka, Omode, Matsui and a lot of the animators who worked on XY are still on SM.

>>33153262
They still work in Pokemon.

>>33153262
M8, I know discussions on the interwebz can make a toll on man, but seriously, don't spread lies that can be disproved within mere seconds

>>33153228

The staff are a bunch of filthy pedophiles then, the way Serena fawned over Ash was completely inappropriate for what's supposed to be a 10 year old girl

If it was just a childish crush, I'd have accepted it, but the way Serena was obsessed with Ash was completely inappropriate for the Pokemon series

>>33153262
The current head writer is the person that wrote the episode where Serena stripped in front of Ash

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no matter what you do
this will never unhappen

>>33153272

Omode is notorious for trolling the fuck out of AmourShippers, and she's writing Lillie's episodes now, so she's a very bad example to use, she gives the least fucks out of all the staff.

>>33153337

Considering how little connection Sun/Moon has to XY, it basically did unhappen.

>>33152002
I don't give a fuck about Shitrena or Pokeshipping.

I'm a Rocketshipper. soon there will be International Rocketshipping Day. And Shitrena normies will get banned forever.

>>33153485
Rocketshippers still exist in the year 2017? That ship has been dead for two decades.

>>33153473
>sun/moon
Good. I wouldn't want the kiss to be connected with the second worst anime season.

>>33153503

>Pokemon anime
>seasons

Pick one, they're all separate shows with no continuity between them

>>33152002
She's just wiping his face.

>>33153567
>>33153574
>summer can't even get dubs
>on fucking /vp/

>>33152002
Pleasantly surprised. Ever since xy6 (the rhyhorn episode), I had expected a cheap "we'll meet again one day" departure and her promising she'll have something to tell him when that time comes.

A kiss was more than I expected, and I loved it

>>33153609
It's not a kiss if it's not shown.

>>33152438
4Kids had Ash kissed on screen three times, TPCi didn't even show Ash getting kissed once, don't make up bullshit.

>>33153618
See
>>33152046

It was a lip kiss. Japanese kids shows can't show that on screen but they can clearly imply it

>>33153672
>Yajima: (Laugh) Whether they kissed or she whispered something in his ear, that scene was supposed to be ambiguous.
>ambiguous
>am·big·u·ous
amˈbiɡyo͞oəs
adjective
(of language) open to more than one interpretation; having a double meaning.

>>33153533
>entire staff shipped Ash/Serena
>they still won't get together

What a waste of a subplot

>>33153726
I expected you to pull that up, and letting you know now that evidence means I'm not wrong anyway.

>>33153737
And neither am I.

>>33152046
>Producer (No name): No, it should look like they were definitely kissing.
Who is this guy?

We know it was a kiss. We just don't know if she kissed him on the lips or cheek

>>33152002
>People point out the truth
>Salt!Delicious tears!
Whos the real salty ones?

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>>33153337
>Mouth
>10 years olds
Pick one

>>33153947
It happened

>>33154425
lewd

>>33153634
That was on the cheek though. This one was on the lips and don't act like they wouldn't have considered it.

I was shocked to be honest, I was expecting way less of a goodbye

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>>33152002
Shocked, then just laughed at Ash's friendzone reaction. They really were deadset on keeping it one-sided.

>>33152002
Chinese escalators

>>33155012
>damage controlling this as "friendzoning"
>even after the director outright said it was "surprised awe"

>>33155012
>"that was not a pokemon battle"

>>33155039
>posting immediately after >>33154850
The butthurt is real. How do you even interpret this as a romantic reaction contrasted against everyone else in the scene and to Serena all season long?

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>>33155012

>>33155012
Stuff like this is why the PM Gals doujin with Ash/Serena doing it in her tripokalon dress fits in canon.

>>33155064
>mild confusion = love
You're gonna break your spine reaching this hard

>>33152022
This. And I'm a manlet

This thread is saltier than the dead sea.

>>33155087
Maybe you should stop projecting your salt then.

>>33155063
>>33155072
>>33155092
Holy shit you're mad.

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>>33155105
>no argument
>u-u mad! s-salty!
Amourfags never fail to amuse

>>33152002
"Man, there's going to be so much more shitposting"

>>33155114
It's just a kids show, anon.

>>33155136
I know, you'd have to be pretty autistic to misunderstand it, let alone force your own headcanon into it. But /vp/ always finds a way

>>33155140
They're not misunderstanding it, though, it's just damage control. Remember they had been invested in their shipping headcanon for up to 18 years when this scene happened.

>>33152002
“Adults watch this?”

>>33155165
>it's just damage control
You mean what you're doing? I know. Remember that this ship was completely one-sided from beginning to bitter end. Amourfags spamming >>33155064 only proves how flimsy their headcanon is.

>>33155175
>>33155174

>>33155187
Hey, I don't watch it for the writing, but I still understand it. Makes me laugh when other people don't

Is it literally just one guy sitting here trying to damage control this kiss away? That's hilariously sad.

>>33155249
Welcome to /vp/

>>33155249
Most people don't get as much enjoyment as me watching amourcucks squirm. Most just left a comment and went on their way

As always, >>33155114

>>33155249
The worst part is that he's not even trying to hide it.

>>33155276
The worst part is you sit here licking each other's fractured asses, convincing each other that Ash looking dense is actually him thinking about how much he loves Serena. It would be funnier if it wasn't so sad, but still pretty funny.

I was tired as fuck when I watched this the first time and I thought she was gonna kiss him but then tripped up, i started laughing.

I've grown to honestly liking the pairing, though I first started shipping it unironically because of how much it triggered the people on this board.

>>33155087
>>33153254
>>33153092
See >>33153137.

Stop replying unironically to repetitive trollbait.

>>33155361
You meant to say "ironically" didn't you?

>>33155400
>anyone who isn't an amourfag is either salty or trolling
The delusion is painful

Was Serena kissing Ash the equivalent of Naruto getting with Hinata?

The writers absolutely killed the Ash/Misty pairing

>>33155909
It was.

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>>33152002

>>33152002
I don't know. I'm not a girl.

>>33155959
Fag

>>33155909
Ash/Misty was never a thing

>>33152002
I still can't believe they did it.

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>>33152002

>>33155959
Not with that attitude, no.

>>33155987
There was Pokemon 2000, with Misty jealous over Melody.

>>33156058
Yeah but Melody isn't a main girl.

Ash and Serena is not endgame. At least we know that much, even with the kiss.

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>>33152002
>mfw

>>33156058
>watching the dub

I would care if anything in the anime ever had consequences and won't continue on for centuries to come. It also would've mattered if the relationship had been developed at all between 140 episodes. But it wasn't to give any real investment since the only shock thing happened at the end. Well whatever, if she does come back, it won't be for a while. Who cares anymore?

>>33156519
>Who cares anymore?
Apparently to you.

>>33156519
It had fine development

Being surprised that it wasn't cut from the dub.

>>33157905
Why would it be cut?

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>>33152002

>>33155909
No, Naruto x Hinata was mutual.

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Never watched X&Y, never cared about Serena.

>>33160222
Naruto was +18 years old

>>33160671
Yes, and? Are you back to arguing in hypotheticals?

I think you guys are missing the point, Ash has never and will never have a girlfriend, and it's pointless to argue who will be with Ash, bc the answer is no one. There are two things that will never happen for Ash, winning a leauge and getting a girlfriend.

I loved it from start to finish Pokémon XY / XY & Z.
It has been a great story, I enjoy it a lot.
Great professional work, congratulations.

>>33152002
I already knew Serena had shit taste in men but I was remembered with this.
Didn't really mind, though.