Region maps

>>33143662
>there will never be a region as good as Johto

Feels so bad man.

>>33143662

was about to post hoenn one, but 4MB limit

>>33143700
imgur it.

>>33143682
But the only region worse than Johto is Sinnoh. Johto has a terrible layout, awful level scaling, a very poor distribution of Pokemon, and is the smallest region by far.

Unless you mean in terms of "comfy" and "nostalgia" in which case sure. Objectively speaking, though, it's a disaster.

>>33143751
>Only region worse than Johto is Sinnoh
Explain, because slowness of the game isn't because of the region and Platinum added Flareon, Houndour and Magmar for fire types

>>33143751
How does it have a terrible layout? The layout seems pretty general to me barring the amount of caves to explore.

>>33143751
Sinnoh is awesome and is better than the regions that came afterwards
I love regions like johto and sinnoh with lots of little corners to explore

>>33143877
I'd like Sinnoh a lot more if the snow routes had more to explore and if fog/bog were removed.

>>33143779
>>33143877
Sinnoh has like 3 memorable towns and that's it. Pretty much all of them are a shade of brown or grey.

Same problem with the majority of the routes, Marshland / mountains that don't look visually interesting in any way and you double back on yourself way more than any other map.

>>33143916
Why like the snow but dislike the marsh? They were pretty similar
I would like a more persistent winter feel, like platinum added a little

>>33143927
I remember all the towns, memory is a very subjective thing
I like backtracking in games with big overworlds, returning to mr coronet to explore new parts of it was really fun

I get exciting whenever I find a new HM in sinnoh because I know there is stuff to discover

>>33143954
I forgot to add that I wanted a snowshoes-esque item that made walking over snow less annoying. That and winter/cold levels are my absolute favorites along with water levels.

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>>33143700

>>33143961
Yeah, I know what you mean
I didn't REALLY like the mechanics of snow and marsh but I think they're better being difficult and feeling different to navigate than other routes

>>33143981
I don't think them being that slow really adds anything to the game beyond being annoying. Sure, you could say "but it's immersive" or something but you're playing a topdown sprite-based video game. Immersion shouldn't be the first thing you think of in a game like that.

>>33143991
Sure, but I also think it would have been more forgettable or boring if they were just like other routes
Unique tiles are great, even if they slow you down

>>33143954
>I remember all the towns, memory is a very subjective thing
Not him, but the problem isn't that you cannot remember the towns. The problem is that they're not very memorable: there's a subtle difference there.
There are two unique towns and that's it, the rest are just the same green town or brown-greyish city without nothing special about them.
I love the natural part of the region (routes and what not) but the town/cities department pales in comparison to other regions.

>>33144043
I do disagree, which was my point
You're allowed to feel different, of course, but I won't lie and say they were forgettable to me

>>33143978

urinonically believe this to be the best map

>>33144055
>won't lie and say they were forgettable to me
You keep missing the point. It's not that they're forgettable.
It's that, apart from two of them, Sinnoh cities and towns are incredibly bland compared to other regions.

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>>33143978
Thanks anon!
I'm working on a Kalos one right now, I'll post it in a few hours (hopefully)

>>33143978
Keep in mind - you can go from Fallarbor Town to Mossdeep to Dewford and to Littleroot without ever having to trigger any sort of loading screen.

>>33143978
>we will never fully explore the black areas
>we will never explore mt chimney or the tons of forest areas

Why can't we have a Pokemon game with a fully explorable region? I know the GBA had its limitations but I doubt the DS games had any

>>33144067
Listen, fella, that's where I disagree with you, and what I've been trying to say
But I don't want to argue about it, it's subjective so no worries

>>33144023
I think that music and/or level design is better for that than slowing you down. But you're sure as fuck not wrong that the slow movement makes them more memorable (if not because they aggravated people).

>>33144118
>it's subjective so no worries
Not really. The fact that you remember them well and hold them in high regard on your heart is subjective.
How they are designed (bland or interesting) and the fact that apart from Snowpoint and Canalave, they all lack something that puts them apart or differentiate them from other towns in other regions, that's objective.
That's where I disagree with you.

>>33144164
Maybe we just notice and retain things in different ways
I would day kalos had the most forgettable towns, even if just because of the close camera zoom

But, really, I remember distinct things about the towns and don't consider them boring, I liked them
I thought solaceon town was chill as fuck

>>33144195
Curiously, I agree with everything you're said in that post.
Look, I don't think Sinnoh towns are that boring, I just think other regions tend to have more locations with "town gimmicks" (like Fortree or that bridge town) that make them more unique and different.
So what I'm saying is that, in my opinion, Sinnoh falls low on the scale for towns and cities, not because they're bad, but because others are better. Snowpoint is my favorite city though.
And yeah, Kalos is pretty bad. I only like Laverre and Snowbelle.

>>33143877
I love that Johto has a bunch of extra areas. I just wish they were more interesting than "generic water cave."

Because let's be honest, Johto doesn't skimp on those.

>>33144229
That's fine, I think it's good that we have different values and opinions when it comes to towns and regions! I genuinely like sinnoh most, but what is your favourite?

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>>33144260
Hoenn is first. Sinnoh is my second favorite.
I wouldn't know to say which region has the best cities though; too many good towns in different regions. Maybe Unova.

>>33143978
>jpg

>>33144114
3D sux

> I know the GBA had its limitations
Zelda games were fine so it's just GF keeping it linear

>>33144057
Me too. I love how just by looking at that picture you can easily tell the entire geography of the island and fill the blank spaces.
No other map fits so well within itself like Hoenn's.
Plus the ying yang theme is on point.

>>33144334
That isn't a manga page, man.
You want to keep both a decent quality and a manageable filesize on a pic like that? jpg is way better for the job.
When will pngucks learn?

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The official Kalos map doesn't match what's in the game
Route 5 to Route 7 is a straight line in the game but according to the map it should be a 120 degree angle

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>>33144660
if you rotate route 7 then there's no room for route 6
camphrier town can't be roated because it would spill onto route 5
there is literally no way to get the routes to correspond with the map
how should I fix this /vp/?

>>33144898
Make the road into it longer. We know it's an exit we don't know how long it takes to exit.

>>33144057
This anon gets it

>>33144898
This >>33144983. See the daycare? It's another normal house yet it seems smaller than the ones in Camphrier. Kalos' area maps aren't all the same scale so be sure to always have a reference point like a house or something. Another example is Dendemille's bridge to Frost Cavern. It seems smaller in the Frost Cavern map so you have to resize either it or Dendemille.

http://pokeworld.herokuapp.com/rb/1
is there anything like this for gen 2?

>>33144898
what if that angle instead of meaning the angle formed by the two routes, it meat that there was altitude? as in camphrier town is elevated in relation to lumiose
it's stupid and makes no sence but when gf is lazy headcanons are all we have

>>33144660
>>33144898
this is rly triggering to me

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For fun, here's the map of Prism's Naljo I made a while back from going into crowdmap and taking screenshots.

In doing so, I discovered how badly they fucked up with/didn't care about map placement.

>>33144114
there should be a community project to fill in the blank areas.

>>33146075
This, 100%

>>33144260
>>33144229
>>33144195
>>33144164
>>33144118
>>33144067
>>33144055
>>33144043
>>33143954

I think the non-very-memorable anon has the point, Game Freak has series toruble learning to program for the DS, and it really shows.

Most of Sinnoh's memorable areas were repititions of things from previous generations, but more so, or weren't in the towns at all.

For example, Hearthome city is supposed to be a grandoise hub, being the halfway point of the game, and the location of the Foreign Building, the Contest Hall, and Amity Park, and other sightseeing locations. But the contest hall isn't particularly memorable because it wasn't introduced this generations, and unlike in RS there's only one. Amity Park i found to be notable initially, but since HGSS did walking so much better it now feels very uninteresting. Fantina in DP refused to fight the player at first, but the reason for it is very arbitrary; it seems to be there to keep tradition of having one Gym a generation be closed when you find it at first. Hearthome, and the other big town, Jubilife made attempts at being big metropoliton hubs, but future games had far better, bigger, and more memorable Big Hubs that had a lot of sights and camera tricks.

The other towns seem to stretch their sights really thin. For example, Sandgem town is Rowan's home town, but since its such a short walk away from Twinleaf and previous gens had you in the same town as the professor, what's the point? Floaroma Town felt like it should have been Gardenia's gym town, but with Eterna right next to it and the flower shop as the only point of interest, it could have been part of the route itself. Places like Fuego ironworks, Mt. Coronet, and all the locked content like the flower path and the islands stick out to me, but a lot of it was unavailable normally or optional.

Not every region needs to constantly wow the player, but Sinnoh really falls flat with needlessly repeated ideas, and a lack of original ones. I could go on.

>>33144298
Unova is a disappointment

Kind of takes the magic out of it to see them like this.

Can anybody make a full Clover map?

>>33143662
Idk much about pokemon rom hacking.

Would it be possible to make a hack that fills in the white spaces between routes?

>>33147831
depends how much room there is for new maps in each game. most likely there is enough but who knows really.

>>33144057
>>33144344
this so much

>>33147750
really? I think it makes it more whimsical. All your grandiose adventures and memories solidified into one image. Makes me feel immersion for some reason

>>33148258
>Makes me feel immersion for some reason

same desu. it's actually really cool that it tends to line up and fit together correctly with the exception of ruins of alph and the kalos stuff.

>>33146075
Fucking pleeeaaase

>>33148480
I'll get to it. I feel like someone needs to start it off to get people interested so yeah. If someone here wants to do that we can get a thread up sooner but otherwise I'll do it myself, not rn tho.

>>33144082

Good Lord; they mangled the remake in the regard

>>33144057
This guy gets it. The oceans didn't bother me because they felt like open world exploration. THe Pokémon diversity on the sea was a flaw, but that's not a fault of the map design.

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>>33149174
Gen 2 Kanto

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Full size version at:
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>>33149178
Sinnoh

>>33149229
Huh, no Fullmoon / New Moon Island?

>>33149174
Really cool man

>>33143662
True story, I made this image.
I still regret picking the blandest frame of the water animation.

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>>33143978
>>33144114
>>33146075
Here's the artwork for G3 hoenn.
>>33145616
>city in the same place as water
what did they meme

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>>33149199
>yfw trainer's tower map
I still don't get that one.

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>>33149665
I miss the old map style. The ORAS map is a fucking atrocity in comparison to this.

>>33148516
I want to partecipate

>>33147729
Not in town/city variety.

>>33149726
I wish they would tweak with the placement and style a bit to make the region feel more natural like Kalos. They only thing even remotely close is how Fallarbor and the route next to it are rotates in the soaring map

>>33149199
fun side areas, wish there was more with higher levels trainers and 2nd/3rd gen pokemon

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>>33143662

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>>33151123
>natural like Kalos
Kalos is an amusement park

>>33144260
You're still wrong. Unova has the least rememberable cities.

>>33149174
>>33149178
>>33149199
>>33149222
>>33149229
>>33153153
>>33153906
>>33153920
Thanks for the maps anons.
I wonder if there is any way to get Kalos to connect
It doesn't look like it

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>>33154121
Nope, Kalos doesnt work

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>>33153920

>>33154146
kek. good job game freak
I wonder if Unova is fucked up since it's also a circle with lots of diagonals

>>33153926
I have the feeling you were trying to answer to this post >>33150505
And you're objectively wrong, with objectively being used correctly here.
>Nacrene; town with abandoned railroads and storehouses
>Castelia; biggest (and proper) city ever made in the franchise
>Mistralton; airport town
>fucking Undella, the first "summer vacation" beach town
>Black City, unique in its aspect
>Anville, an optional location where they repair trains
>Aspertia, first time a starting town was so big
>plus it had those mountain views where you received your pokemon
>Virbank, an urban port city with one of the coolest entrances to a gym
>Humilau, unique on its design until Alola came over
>Lentimas, that tiny as fuck reddish town hidden between the mountains

Look, I get it, you hate gen5, and that's ok: everyone has their own taste. But denying that Unova has an amazing city variety (even if you didn't like them) it's like saying Hoenn's map didn't introduce environment variety to the franchise.

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>>33154176
holy fuck, saved

>>33154180
Yeah, some of the Unova routes dont line up either, that's why there's no map.

Even in my HGSS Johto one, there's a bunch of places that dont quite fit that I added.

I also did this to show that we really see around 90% of Johto since the space between the locations is so small compared to places like >>33143978

>>33149665
>>33149726
Best region design by far, it's a ying and yang of land and water with sootopolis and mt. chimney

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>>33144057
you know it dude

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>>33143726
expanding on this, here is the first town and route