Weakness Cup General

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My first battle began with me realizing Fake Out on Weavile would be a problem, and ended with a double rock slide miss, costing me the game

>>33139201
But it's not Friday yet

>>33140145

it's been going for four hours now...

>>33140154
What country do you live in?

>>33139201
I haven't started yet, so post your teams so I can get ideas.

>>33140160

Times are universal. Started at midnight UTC.

I stress out so much playing any kind of PVP, but I want to get better at Pokemon. I've been practicing on Showdown, but my hands still shake terribly. How do I overcome my fear?

I bred a Tyranitar for this in Gen 6 and it was shiny. So that was neat. Looking forward to seeing it in action. But would Gigalith be better?

>Mfw Greninjas keep outspeeding my Ribombee because of its imperfect speed IV

>>33140453
Why the fuck would you ever settle for an imperfect speed IV? Not even hidden power is an excuse anymore.

>>33140643

he wanted a Ribombee that was proud of her power, not one that mindlessly thrashed about

>>33140427
Everyone loses to start with. EVERYONE.
Learning from your mistakes is the only way to improve.

>>33140427
Try not to find so much value in it. People lose online, most of your opponents will never see you again and no one in the outside world knows. You don't have to address it til you're at a competitive level you're comfortable with, then you can really start breaking down your game and really "git gud". Just get games under your belt. You'll learn a lot more by actually playing and getting dirty than reading and overthinking.

This goes for any online gaming, really

>>33140427
>my hands still shake terribly
Everytime.
Playing pokemon online it's the only time I got very nervous.

>>33140715
>not just using Hyper Training to remove the deficiency
At this point people only have themselves to blame.

>>33140814
I record my battles and upload them onto the net so people may laugh at my opponents

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>>33140427
I felt the same way a few days ago but that changed after I made a team from scratch and began playing Battle Spot Singles. You just need the proper mindset before playing.

Try to remember you're playing to learn and begin to accept that there is a good chance you will get bodied. If you're too focused on winning now, you'll just stress yourself out and lose motivation when you're defeated. Take notes at the end of your battles before leaving and make replays if necessary. I list an overall summary of a fight along with ways that I could have won the fight or sometimes ways that my opponent could have won. When I'm done playing, I review my replays/notes before deciding on what changes should be made on my team. Yesterday, I had some serious trouble with Mega Metagross so I tried using Mega Scizor and it's been going well.

Keep in mind that being on Showdown means you've also got quick access to damage calculators and detailed analyses of potential movesets. Don't worry about the timer and ELO ranks, don't worry about trash talk, don't be afraid to use copypasted sets, and just play the damn game.

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After eight battles and eight victories I can fairly safely say that Terracott is pretty fucking crazy if people aren't ready for it.
Tailwind+Protect or Beat Up+murder on the first turn can be a bit of a toss-up, having that wind makes Terrakion basically untouchable, but Whimsicott isn't that bulky.

Togekiss is probably the most scary thing so far, because it can do so much. Follow Me can be a pain and Tailwind is awful if I didn't get my own up.

Lastly props to Unnerve Aerodactyl. Wide Guard hasn't seen much use yet, but goddamn if Sky Drop isn't amazing.

Disconnected first fight so good so far

Ive been doing good.

Whimsicott, Greninja and Terrakion are carrying the team with ease

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>>33139201
This is my first time I actually took part in an online competition and when my first opponent immediately forfeit the battle after I sent out a Drifblim/Midday Lycanroc combo, I thought I may have something going for myself.

5 losses later I'm thinking competitive may not be for me.

One thing that I noticed particularly that I ran into a bunch of teams that had 4 or more of the Pokemon the Weakness Cup strategy blogpost prominently mentioned (Tyrannitar, Togekiss, Tapu Bulu etc). I mostly went with Pokemon that I particularly liked (Leafeon, Drifblim, Slowbro, Mamoswine, Lycanroc, Hydreigon).

It may be because I have never done this before, and my EV training went into the two highest stats, but I think I might suck.

>>33141431
It's your first comp.
Nobody starts out amazing.
Using your favorites is often risky, especially when they're sorta underpowered, and in competitions with weird-ass metas like this one you can run into things that you'd never see in the more 'normal' metas.

If you still have the fortitude to try a next comp, I'd recommend taking a good look at what is allowed and what kind of pokes look to be especially good.
Don't always slap a 252/252/4 spread on everything, try to see if there's certain threats from which you'd want to be able to tank one (or a certain amount) of hits, or how much speed you actually need to outspeed the things you want to outspeed.
Check if your planned team has some horrific overall weaknesses in there, something like "oh god, half my team gets eaten by Tyranitar" and proceed from there. Maybe add a TTar counter or swap something out, or slap a fighting move on something that usually doesn't have it and invest enough EVs to OHKO TTar before it murders you.

Oh, and keep in mind that Showdown usually has ladders for these cups as well, allowing you to test your team before breeding it.

just inject lol

also unnerve stone/rock miss tyranitar

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First competition, won my first two matches. Follow me/defensively bulky togekiss + clanging scales kommo-o seems to work well, but it could just be a fluke. I'm not at all experienced with competitive.

>>33141431
Usually with these things if youre cereal about winning most the fights you look for the best team combos. Then you 50/50 between those and combos built to counter those best teams. Then it's all about hoping the idiot on the other screen assumes you'll pick one kinda team when he sees your group selection. You can usually bait him into picking a team to beating what he assumes are your best mons and then fucking over that strat entirely. The more abilities you're able to disable, the better as well.

>>33140922
>ginding to level 100 in SuMo in a timely fashion
Good one. My battles have been shit so far because I couldn't figure out a general strategy and I just threw in some mons at the end to not have me completely fucked by ice.

>>33141070
I may have played you last night. I knew TerraCott would be a problem, but I couldn't get mine hyper trained fast enough. Wish I had time to make Aero too because Unnerve is godly in this format.

3 losses and one win against a dude with four shitmons.
Doing about as well as can be expected, considering the lack of preparation on my part.

>>33140643
Because I was trying to get one ready to swap in for a shiny, but ran out of time

>>33139201
Just had some Asian mimic MY team and we both played the same starter moves. Was spoopy. Then he did what all Asians do and cheated to win!

>>33142071
>he did what all Asians do and used fucking complex gimmicks to throw me off from cookie cutter sets
Ftfy

>>33142235
I deserve to win!

I just got fucking disconnected after knocking out someone's final pokemon. We didn't get to the win/lose screen, so it probably means I FUCKING LOST. I'm already so done with this shit.

>>33142462
Close your dolphin porn torrents, anon.

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>keep getting paired against japs
>win every single time

Why are they shit at their own game?

>>33142633
Japs are way better, it's just that day 1 is full of casuals wanting the mega stones

>>33142646
>it's just that day 1 is full of casuals wanting the mega stones
As do I and this shit is boring

>>33142656
What do you expect when GF chose to have them distributed like this?

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>>33142687
I don't know I'm just not that much of a competitive guy. Well I finally lost to a guy doing terrakion combo so I'll end at 7-1 time to shiny hunt

>>33140427
Don't even worry about it, it's an autistic waste of time. There are better things to do than be a tryhard at Pokemon.

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>>33141070

>go to Sky Drop a Dhelmise
>it's Too Heavy
>never even knew there was a weight restriction until now

>>33142768
Don't forget that it can't damage flying types.
It'll still remove them for a turn, but no damage.

>>33141070
>Terracott made a comeback
Holy shit, it's VGC 2011 all over again. I almost forgot about that cancerous team.

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Maaaaaaan I wanted to try this out. I've never played competitively before and I trained up a team and everything but I missed the registration cause that's what I get for waiting until the last minute. Oh well. Anyone know the best way to farm bp? If I had those power items I think I would've made that fuckin deadline.

>>33142847

Catch and use Pheromosa/Xurkitree/Tapus in battle tree, they do well and don't require you to breed anything.

It'll still take a while to get all the BP for all of the power items.

>>33142861
Any specific moveset? Or is what they come with good enough?

>>33142847
Do you have Pokebank? That's an easy way to get BP if you're not lucky at the Battle Tree.

Another thing you can do is to take the regular courses at the tree (single battle, double battle, link battle, unlike the super ones they cap out at battle 21 and you face fairly easy mons, unevolved ones mainly)

>>33142883

Timid Xurkitree with Expert Belt and as much coverage as possible

do whatever with Phermosa. life orb for damage output.

whatever your other pokemon is should probably have a focus sash or something. or bring Mimikyu.

>>33142926
Yeah I have pokebank. Explain how to get the bp pls

>>33142954
Just deposit some pokémon and wait for some days. Everytime you log into Bank the professor will offer you BP, I think the more Pokémon you deposit and the more days they stay into Bank , the more BP you'll get in exchange. I got more than 2000 BP that way over the recent months

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>>33142943
>>33142991
Thanks fellas.

Is Tailwind the most defining move in this competition?

>>33143060
It certainly feels that way sometimes.

>>33143060
That would probably be Rock Slide. Rock types are everywhere especially Aerodactyl, barely anything resists it, no choice scarf to outspeed anything and avoid flinches, and Terracott is good

>>33143086
I know, It makes Terrakion really difficult to deal with, as well as making stuff like Greninja outspeed Weavile, Ribombee and other faster threats.

I haven't seen the Latis nor Bulu yet, which is weird. I'm already at 1690-ish. I've seen dozens of Tyranitar, Aerodactyl and Togekiss though.

>>33143143
Seen a Lati or two.
One dude had a Bulu in his team, but it wasn't used.
Fuck Togekiss though.
I hate Aerodactyl's speed Tailwind, but I hate Kiss more.

>>33143060

Yes: QSWG-WWWW-WWW8-3FXQ

I wanted to this at first since I enjoyed the little cup. But then I realized all my teambuilding ideas were bad; item restrictios didn't help me either.

>>33143143
The legendaries aren't that good here. Kiss, Aero, Terra, and Cott are kings here.

>>33143188
It doesn't really matter though, just slap a Weakness Policy on your bulkiest attacker and call it a day. The SE-reducing berries aren't really relevant unless you have a Hawlucha/Sceptile/Drifblim with uburden, and even then most Aerodactyl carry unnerve. Also i've seen many people use stuff like Greninja without an item cause a stronger Acrobatics is more valued in the end

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I lost four battles from all the ones I could battle today. Not bad for an improvised, speed-based team of pokémon I normally use for singles.

My main doubles team is a trick room one, but for the weakness cup, some pokémon can't be used. I had others I bred for trick room purposes, but I went for something new instead.

It's been fun.

lots of Aerodactyl, lots of Latis, lots of Tsareena

>>33143303
Yeah, i'm glad they're doing more different things with the competitions, hopefully they'll do an inverse battle one as well.

I wonder what will the rewards be after this one, since Diancite is the only mega stone missing. Probably the unreleased berries like enigma or jaboca.

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EVERYONE POST TEAMS

>krookodile
>breloom
>chandelure
>latias
>togekiss
>greninja

Only one battle vid's been posted so far? Sad!

>>33143398

greninja
weavile
sharpedo
kommo-o
serperior
archeops

>>33143398
Terrakion
Whimsicott
Aerodactyl
Greninja
Weavile
Tangrowth
i am become cancer

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>tfw i've btfo'd five autopilot terracott teams so far

Feels good. You won't cheese me with that stupid core, random japs.

>>33143398
Breloom
Weavile
Chandelure
Poliwrath
Yanmega
Hydreigon

>>33143535
What do you use to stop them?
So I can watch out for that when I do more matches tomorrow with my own Terracott

>>33141563
just delete the updates, use the pelago exploid until you get level 100 and download the update again

I'm ready to participate, is this team okay? feel free to offer me some replacements

Whimsicott @ Coba Berry
Prankster
Tailwind/Moonblast/Protect/Memento

Greninja
Protean
Acrobatics/Rock Slide/Protect/Waterfall

Aerodactyl @ Charti Berry
Unnerve
Sky Drop/Tailwind/Rock Slide/Wide Guard

Terrakion @ Weakness Policy
Justified
Rock Slide/Sacred Sword/Poison Jab/Stealth Rock

Krookodile @ Rindo Berry
Intimidate
Knock Off/Superpower/Bulldoze/Snarl

Weavile @ Occa Berry
Pressure
Punishment/Icicle Crash/Throat Chop/Poison Jab

>>33143595
Pokemon choice is good, but if you want more optimal sets:

Give Whimsicott Encore or Taunt over Memento
Remove Stealth Rock from Terrakion for Protect, remove Sacred Sword for Close Combat
Give Krookodile EQ over Bulldoze, you already have 2 Tailwind users
Give Weavile Fake Out over one of the dark moves

>>33143595
I'd suggest Encore or Taunt over Memento on Cotton.
Taunt shits liberally all over Tailwind and Encore can shaft pokes who selected a poor move.
Rocks feel useless in doubles, but you might not want to lose Pebbles on Terrak because you can't re-learn it.
Slap Fake-Out on Weavile, IMO. I assume no ORAS transfer due to lack of Knock-Off and Low Kick?

Just my two cents.

>>33143638
>but you might not want to lose Pebbles on Terrak because you can't re-learn it
but you can

>>33143681
Don't you lose tutored moves if you unlearn them?
Unless I'm out of the loop.

>>33143686
you can relearn EVERY move your pokemon had at one point on your current savefile in gen 6 and 7 (egg move, event move, old tutor move...)

>>33143636
>>33143638
>>33143696
Thanks! That was my biggest fear. I'll get to it asap.

My Weavile is Alola-born hence Throat Chop, it had Fake Out as an egg move, so that's one change. What can I do for its last moveslot? The Krook thing was a gimmick just to take advantage of Punishment, but I can change it or perhaps replace it with another mon.

>>33143727
Shart is always useful on Weavile, Protect is always an option and it could Taunt, but Aero outspeeds you anyway and Cotton has Prankster, so it's not as good as it could be.

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>tfw people who use a singles team in doubles can actually be scary
>randomly set up Stealth Rock when I have 2 rock weak Pokemon in the back
>ohfuck.jpg
>keep predicting obvious Protects, but it's just not on their moveset
>random set up moves

>>33143744
>keep predicting obvious Protects, but it's just not on their moveset
This is always the weirdest shit.

>>33143727
Well shame on me, Punishment only works on positive stat changes.

Maybe I should use Latios and Chandelure instead?

>>33143696
But that's wrong you fucking retard.

>>33143727
Don't listen to >>33143696, that guy's an idiot and has no idea what he's talking about. If you forget an ORAS-exclusive tutor move you can't get it back.

Did my obligatory 3 surrenders so I'll get the Mega Stones.

Done and done.

>>33143772
I honestly think these tourneys are better than the VGC slop they kept doing.
At least this has me trying something new.

>>33143727
i use throat chop, fake out, Icicle Crash (hits quite a few pokemon for huge damage) and ice shard (finisher move)

but im assuming your weavile wont have access to those moves (one is an egg move and the other is only learned by Sneasel)

other interesting moves would be icy wind (speed control, not for damage), taunt,Snatch (especially for opposing Whimsicott ),Snarl (again not for the damage but the effect) or Low Sweep. poison jab also destroys bulu and Whimsicott

>>33143766
>But that's wrong you fucking retard.
have you even tried the move relearner in gen 6 and 7?

>>33143398
Togekiss
Slowbro
Virizion
Kommo-o
Alolan Marowak
Lycanroc Day

>>33143805
>A-Wak without club
Is it even putting in work?

>>33143807
i have battled against a few of those
they were terrible

>>33143743
>Shart is always useful on Weavile

hehehe

>>33143822
Oh right, it's a Sneasel move unless you Egg-moved it. RIP

>>33143819
Seen one, it Bonemerang'd my Terrakion to exactly 1 HP. Then, next turn it got promptly splattered across the arena because Terrakion was at +4.

>>33143792
You must be thinking of egg moves, move tutors can't be relearned

>>33143832

The A-Marowak I saw was paired with a Hydreigon with Charge Beam, and I guess he didn't realize that meant he couldn't hit Aerodactyl with it. Nice easy win.

>>33143864
Wait, it was Lightning Rod?
And Charge Beam Hydreigon sounds like a shitty Showderp set.

>>33143398
Ribombee
Breloom
Bulu
Aerodactyl
Tyranitar
Suggestor here :^)

>>33143744

A similar thing can happen when you fight ingame teams with competitive teams. You think you have a 1HKO against a Blaziken, but it has a bunch of HP and Def EVs and your pokemon is too fragile to survive its attacks.

>>33143792
Yes, and it only teaches level-up moves and moves the Pokemon had when it was first obtained. Stop spreading misinformation.

>have a smeargle sketch every move in the game one at a time
>take it to move relearner
>it lists 700+ moves

I don't fucking think so. There isn't even enough space in the PKX file structure to record anywhere near that many moves.

>>33143871

Yeah Lightning Rod.

I was actually hoping it would hit Aerodactyl, since theres no way Charge Beam could KO it, and it was holding the Weakness Policy.

>>33143896
WP Aero sounds too fragile to work, to me.
Has it successfully triggered at some point?

>>33143906

Aero isn't remotely fragile in a scenario where attack boosting items don't exist, he has a chunky HP stat that people forget about. Weakness Policy triggers in at least 75% of matches, super effective moves don't 1HKO him except for like Blizzard.

I've never encountered another Aerodactly that was holding Weakness Policy though, so I guess everyone else thought the same about his defenses.

>>33143398
Whimsicott
Breloom
Starmie
Tyrantrum
Mamoswine
Chandelure

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>tfw you diddle someone's Trick Room by Encoring it with Whimsicott

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>>33140427
>>33140427
Me again. I won all 3 battles! I'm shaking so hard, but I'm very proud of my Pokemon. I only did so well because I practiced a lot on Showdown, as everyone here suggested when I posted in the Tiny Tourney thread about my fear.

If anyone cares, my team was
Aerodactyl (sky drop was my life saver), Breloom, Weavile, Tsareena (queenly majesty is the ability everyone forgot about. Wasted turns for opposing fake outs and Mach punches), Greninja, Gigalith (sturdy and weakness policy). Gigalith's superpower was wonderful! And immunity to sandstorm was lovely with him and Aero.

Thank you to everyone, I thought of all your kind words when I was playing <3

Here is my Tyranitar in a banana hat as thanks.

>>33143398
Greninja
Togekiss
Ribombee
Latios
Breloom
Golurk

>>33144234
How has your success with Golurk been? I worried he was only "good" on a TR team.

>>33144112

theme of your post https://youtu.be/liqB7bf6VCs

>Someone starts off with Greninja and Pallosand
>Both of mine are slower than Greninja

Fuck.

>>33143398
Greninja
Tyranitar
Chandelure
Latias
Sceptile
Golurk

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>>33143398
greninja
breloom
sawsbuck
simisage
latios
tyranitar

Help I have 8 wins in a row. I've never been this good...ever.

>>33145294
jynx

I'm midly drunk right now. Should I play and see how far I get while drinking some more?

>>33145303
yeah

>>33143398
I completely forgot to train mons for the competition and just picked the first ones that came to my mind but they have been doing well. Here they are:
Greninja
Chesnaught
Delphox
Whimsicott
Terrakion
Togekiss

>>33145298
I almost did just lose
My mamoswine against their chandelure. It outsped me the first turn, the next turn I outsped it and defeated it. Close call

>>33145303
wouldnt be a weakness cup if you didnt

>>33144112
Does Queenly Majesty work for your allies, or is it just for Tsareena?

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>>33144636
I think this is one of the sweetest things ever said? Done? to me here. Thank you, anon.

>>33145627
As long as Tsareena with QM or Bruxish with Dazzling is on the field, the opposing team's "goes first" moves will fail. Fake out, Mach punch, ice shard, etc.

>>33143398
Togekiss
Sudowoodo
Ninjask
Decidueye
Crawdaunt
Slowking

Generally went with Pokemon I like. Won 12/15 so far, though I doubt I'll be as lucky over the next few days.

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only played 5 or so battles today and i don't know if i'll do more
decided to do mono-rock for laughs but literally every single team has a fucking narutoad on it; current W/L ratio is 1/4

>>33143398
>>33145704
tyranitar
rhyperior
regirock
lycanroc-day
minior
mamoswine (wanted to give it a spin only to realize every single good move it needs is an egg move; nothing but a bench-warmer)

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I'm tired from work so I was only able to do 5 battles today. 1582 with 5/0 record. Had one cool battle that I'd like to share with you guys:

RE6G-WWWW-WW8-3T9D

It's not an amazing battle, but at least this one wasn't just 3-5 turns of my leads sweeping people or putting everyone to sleep since they had no way of stopping that. Guy had good taste on shinies, I have to say.

Will do my 25 battles tomorrow and will probably post more battle codes, if anyone wants. Oh, and if you wanna battle more today, the second day started 10 minutes ago.

>>33145846
you missed one letter anon

If I just forfeit the three battles, does count as I did three battles?
I registered but I don't want to participate.

>>33145951
Oh, yeah. It's a W.

RE6G-WWWW-WWW8-3T9D

>>33145958
Yes

>>33145838
How's Minior working out for you without White Herb or Focus Sash? I have a Minior of my own trained up and ready to use, but I haven't decided if I want to put it on my team or not, because I'm not sure if it's still good without being able to use those two items.

>>33146087
No Focus Sash is really hurting it, though it did feel good to blow someone's Breloom the fuck out with unboosted Acrobatics. Most of the time, though, it ends up getting oneshot by Greninja or some other weakness.

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>>33139201
How do I join competitions? I might do the next one.

>>33146174
There's a how-to on PGL.

>>33143338
I'm fucking retarded when it comes to inverted battles. I can't think straight.

But yeah, variety is great and fun.

>>33146174
Go to the Pokemon global link website. Create a profile, link your game. Whenever there's a competition, go to "online competitions", apply for it. Play the game, on "battle spot - online competitions" you select a team and hope for the best.

I learned a lot from playing competitively. I still suck but you can't be prepared against everything, so, I'm only getting better and better. Winning way more than losing.

>>33146738
I won my first global link battle. I didn't even notice it was an inverse battle until the end

>>33143398
Oricorio
Ribombee (MVP)
Liligant
Greninja
Latios
Terrakion

>>33146915
3/3 wins. I'm done with this cup.
Ribombee is so good. Killed more mons than any other mons on my team. And for some reason, nobody expects the Greninja to run Water Shuriken.

>>33147000
How'd you manage to keep Ribombee alive with all the rock slide spam?

I ran belly drum on my Kommo-o and Psych up on my full bulk Tapu Bulu. Kommo-o dies immediately after, but Tapu bulu murders everything with rock slide. Whe bulu gets low on hp, I just horn leech to replenish hp(usually to full)

>>33147029
I don't. It usually faints turn 2.
Terrakion or Greninja take care of the rocks and Rimbombee kills everything else.
In cases where there might be a berry, both kill the target that might ohko Ribombee.
Most sand support or sweepers get OHKO by the fake bee waifu.

>>33139201

I reach limit at 15 game per days.
Won 8 and lose 7. Mediocre right ?

>>33147123
That's pretty good then. Just a suicide glass cannon, take whatever it can down with it.

>>33147266
It was meant to buff Oricorio with Quiver or heal others with Pollen Puff as a support.
Offensively it checks Greninja, Weavile, Starmie, Liligant, Bulu, Hydreigon, and Krookodile.
Outspeeds the entire Weakness Cup other than +speed Aerodactyl.
I brought it to check Greninja and as dancer team support but it ends up as my main sweeper.

midnight bump so this lasts until tomorrow

Life got int the way and I fucked up breeding with Gigalith, but a support set might work. I just did one battle to get started, and it was pretty great using Explosion 2 of his pokemon leaving his Serperior to go against my Greninja.

Also on showdown I don't know how many times I got a free turn thanks to the opponent forgetting priority moves don't work with Tsereena on the field.

>>33141070
>Lastly props to Unnerve Aerodactyl. Wide Guard hasn't seen much use yet, but goddamn if Sky Drop isn't amazing.
Oh man, I fucking love Sky Dropping the Trick Room user (mainly Slowbro/king) and having the other pokemon land the KO hit.

>>33143398
Greninja
Palossand
Gigalith
Aerodactyl
Tsereena
Mamoswine

Is Greninja good here? I thought it was only good in singles

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>>33143398
Aerodactyl
Poliwrath
Archeops
Ninjask
Sceptile
Meganium

>>33148472
It's not usually good in doubles but this format's quirks make fast frail attackers much better than normal

>>33148602
It's also one of the fastest threats as well, with access to a wide variety of moves in a meta filled with things that hate a lot of those moves.

>get outplayed by a Japanese dude running Virizion+Whimsi in mono grass
>his Serperior's Leaf Storm misses my Greninja
>4fit
I did not deserve that win at all.

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>Terrakion is too heavy to be lifted!
huehuehue

>>33148472
drops that haze on these fools

>>33148874
I can't think of a moment where I'd want to use Haze over an attack or Protect. Froggie is pretty fragile.

Greninja's main asset is unpredictability. You can run a perfectly viable physical set cause Rock Slide and 115 base Acrobatics are almost unresisted among eligible mons, slap another coverage move like Low Kick and you're ready to wreck shit. You can do special, mixed and physical sets and they all do perfect.

My personal set is a mixed one: HP Electric/Low Kick/Hydro Pump/Gunk Shot. HP Ele replaces Rock Slide cause most opponents predict the type change to Rock and proceed to nuke Water/Grass attacks, at least with electric there's a chance that Gren survives.

>>33149201
HP Elec feels like an odd choice.
What are you catching with it? Other Greninja and Togekiss?

>>33149204
Mainly opposing Aerodactyl, Gren, Togekiss, Sharpedo and the occasional Hawlucha and Yanmega. But it's just a minor gimmick so I don't really expect much except some surprise wins.

>>33149253
Yeah, it sounds slightly too gimmicky for my tastes.
I just run Pump/Ice Beam/Low Kick/Protect, served me pretty well so far.

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Why isn't this little nigger more common?
Priority Encore and Tailwind are just too amazing.
I've seen more than a few in previews, but it's not that common to actually see them fight.

Just faced Serebii on it and the motherfucker swept me with a Weakness Policy Guzzlord

>>33150120
How did it survive long enough to use that policy?

>>33150149
It was ridiculously bulky. It took a Dazzling Gleam and had around half health left.

>>33139201
This meta is so bad I'm too lazy even to do the three battles for the mega stones. But I don't wanna miss them, can someone good at maths calculate for me how many hours left?

>>33149886
Aerodactyl is everywhere and Weavile and Mamoswine are a few threats.
>>33148806
>Those few people that actually targeted my Palossand with Sky Drop
>>33148472
Being the 5th fastest pokemon in a tourney without Choice Scarf is a big quirk. Mat Block can really save your ass if you're not up against a Speed Boost, Tail Wind, or the other 4 fastest pokemon. Them being Ninjask, Aerodactyl, Ribombee, and Weavile in that order.

>>33150270
Less than 31 hours

>>33143398
Unnerve mixed tyranitar
Intimidate masquerain
Intimidate Krookodile
Hp fire storm drain Maractus
Greninja
Mamoswine

>>33148788
I swear I think I faced the same Jap
Did he have a Simisage? My greninja and Hp fire Maractus destroyed him
I also think his serperior was tailwind boosted but mamoswine was packing ice shard to win the game

>>33150245
Gleam deals less damage in doubles due to spread of damage.
Same deal with Slide, still feels weird to see fucking Weavile balk a Rock Slide.

>>33150375
All I can remember is Virizon and Whimsi, complete with Beat Up shenanigans, and Serperior. Well, that and mono grass.
Dude really deserved the win.

>that horrible feeling when you forget exactly how Dazzling works
Feels dumb man.

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My speed-based team has been doing well against the tailwind spam. I normally use trick room teams or sticky web based teams instead.

Not trying to trigger any Greninja trainers, but this cup reminds me exactly why I never wanted to raise a Greninja Fucking cheap type changing frog bastard.

I mainly just ran the Ribombee with Togekiss and pretty much swept and when I didn't Starmie or Latios picked up where Togekiss would leave off.

>>33150804
You're absolutely right.
Jobberfrog hasn't been jobbing at all this competition, for me at least.
It's disgustingly versatile, has a weird-ass speed tier and an amazing Ability.
Just check their frog with your own. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

>>33150804
Greninja is fast and hit hard because of the stab. Sometimes it avoids super effective attacks because of his faster type changes. But it's also very fragile, and in this cup, incapable of using boosting items. Easily OHKO or 2HKO.

>>33150823

I'm the type who likes using favorites over whatever's the best, so I'll never have a Greninja. Just wish I could've used my Clefable in this one. Clutch teammate right there in singles and doubles.

And before you say Clefable is OU, I've had mine since Leaf Green, when it was UU, when it wasn't fairy.

Is Carnivine the new meta??? [NOT CLICKBAIT]:

47CW-WWWW-WWW8-483Q

With how good Greninja is in this competition, it wouldn't surprise me if they made the rules specifically to give the spotlight to the ninja frog.

>>33152061
I initially assumed it was there to give Bulu the opportunity to shine a bit, considering it's generally overshadowed by the other Tapus.

Doesn't help that literally all the Bulus I've seen have jobbed horribly.
Smart Strike Bulu, what the fuck was that dude thinking?

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>>33143398
I just started. I expect nothing.

>>33153090
>no Encore on Cotton
but why

>>33153140
Cotton came from ORAS. I didn't want train another one.

>>33153160
From one Cotton user to another, you're gonna miss it. Encore is amazing.

>lost a against a itemless dude
I feel very shitty now.

Fuck Terrakion and Whimsicott players so fucking much this isn't fun. Every team has them

I mean did every one get together all over the world and agree to use them or something. This is a huge fucking coincidence for a tournament this new

>>33153304
That's because the strategy has been a thing in VGC since BW. People saw those two were available and picked them to get easy wins. Most of the TerraCott players are complete shitters though; they autopilot the team to the point they're easy to break.

>>33143884
>spunks all his evs in attack

>tfw just lost two battles in a row due to me expecting people not to go for the obvious play, since me capitalizing off that would win me the game 100%

Guess I just have to play obvious all the time, even against people in the 1700s.

>rock slide misses both targets twice in a row
>my opponent in turn crits me twice to take two easy kos

Welp, I guess this is as far as I make it. It was a lot of fun but the RNG has me tilted.

How are you guys doing in the tournament?

>>33154158
Won 8 out of 10 so far. It's a hell of a lot better than I usually do. Glad I gave my Mamo and Tsereena enough speed IVs to outspeed Aerodactyl with my own Aero's Tailwind. That allowed me to bulk them out as much as possible, and with her on the field I don't have to worry about Weavile, Greninja, Whimsicott, Lycanroc or Breloom tossing priority my way, and I get free turns when the opponent forgets about Queenly Majesty.

>tfw you win the speed tie going up against another Aerodactyl and you went for Rock Slide

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What do people seriously expect from a Ninjask in doubles? Mine successfully surprise 1HKO'd many things with Final Gambit

>>33154976
A Protect turn 1 and Baton Pass. I found like one in 20 battles. It died turn one because they didn't Protect and for some reason my Aerodactyl was faster.

>>33145846
Are you going to post more battle codes?

My last battle for this competition: 3F7W WWWW WWW8 4F9M

Had a great time overall, super fun ruleset. Despite Jobberfrog's presence, it felt much more balanced than Tiny Tourney.

>>33143398
Chandelure
Dhelmise
Tapu Bulu
Alolan Marowak
Palossand
Tyranitar

>>33153304
That's why you run a faster sweeper like Serperior, Starmie, Greninja, or Rimbombee.

Did pretty decent kept getting rando read so ending up "tieing" twice one true lose and 4 wins. Most were close but shit was there a ton of 1600s or near them that I kept getting paired off with. Did still well cause of course I got sick the weekend this took place lmao and did my 7 battles to make sure I get the prizes. Might play a bit later. But man my team was ready to counter a lot of scary team comps just sucked at the in game match ups or openers.

Oh! Went with a spooky beach party themed team with Tyranitar Tapu Bulu Pallosand Slowking Chandelure and Togekiss. Man the crits misses flinches speed ties statuses low and high rolls were crazy this time round! Kinda want to use a Reflect Pollenpuff and Speed Swap Ribombee cause fuck was that ingenous. Thought of doing it with alolan raichu but doing that to make things like WP Gigalith or Tyranitar able to outspeed Greninja and other major threats was ingenious. Whoever you are or whoever uses a team comp with that my hats are off to you.

>>33155546
Sorry friend, my internet died all day and now I'm about to go to sleep. I'll try to have some tomorrow though.

>>33154976
I actually encountered a Ninjask. Its ability was Speed Boost, it had Substitute and Leach Life, and he had a Greninja in the back. I figured he'd Baton Pass to Greninja eventually. I took it out with my Infiltrator Chandelure, who felt like waking up from his nap.

8M4W-WWWW-WWW8-4FRL

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>>33152061
>it wouldn't surprise me if they made the rules specifically to give the spotlight to the ninja frog.

>>33157333
But it's not true

Only Phoxfags believe everything in the universe is done to "Shill Greninja"

>minimize Chandelure
Japan go fuck yourself.

I've been watching all your videos and I have to say I wish all competitions were like this.

Carnivine, Rhyperior, Ribombee, Chesnaught and Ninjask all now meta!

My biggest problem with vgc is there are 800 pokémon to choose from and only the same 25 in every team.

If the next one is anything like this I'll think about participating =)

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>tfw rough day 3
>most people still left playing are decent
>flaws in your team get more noticeable
>Rock Slide missing for me/flinching me robbing some wins, and some other dumb losses
>didn't even reach 1700

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Just want to point out another point towards Pokemon Company/Game Freak's retardation with events here: WHY is there a waiting period after an event is announced? Once you announce it on the site, why can't players just register then and there? A longer window would only bring in more entrants.

It's my own fault for forgetting, not setting a reminder, or something. Like fuck, I KNEW I'd end up forgetting. But this wouldn't be a problem if registration was open from day one. It's like Pokemon has a fetish for over-complicating things.

I hate that I love this franchise.

>>33158823
Pokemon Company/Game Freak's retardation in general*
That sounds more honest.

twitch/sejun_park

If you're done or just want to watch some high level matches, he's in the 1800s with quite a few games left

>>33158823
I'm sure they have their reasons, think of it more like announcing it early to give you time to prepare, rather than the sign up period being late

>>33157959
VGC17 only has like 50 viable picks though. Only the Alola dex is allowed and as you know, most of it is filled with shitmons and NFEs.

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>>33158913
huh. didn't know he streamed. thanks anon.

>>33158913
>"Terracott is not very good in this format"
kek

>>33158913
No, it's like
announcement ---> registration period ---> event

They should just combine the time of the announcement and registration times. The moments it's announced is the moment you can sign up. Same amount of time, more convenience. Checking Pokemon's retard site isn't on my daily to do list.

It'd help SO much if we could, oh, I don't know... Get these fucking alerts in-game?! Like you load the game
>Rotom: "Oh hey, big boy! You got some mail! Check it out when you get a moment!"

And they let you know what's going on. But Game Freak still think it's the stone age of gaming, so whatever, right?

I'm not even mad I missed the event, I just wanted the stones and we'll get codes. I'm mad how it's the year 2017, and after being in the business for 20 YEARS, Game Freak still can't make a properly modernized game.

For fuck's sake, man.

>>33159140
>Checking Pokemon's retard site isn't on my daily to do list.
When they announce the competition they tell you exactly when sign ups will start. Announcing a tournament before sign ups is a completely normal thing also.

>>33139201
I wanted to do this cup but it was first come first serve
It's not fair when was that said?

>>33159191
Sign ups never cap, there was a glitch for a few days though which said it was closed

>>33159169
I get that, and I've already said missing this was completely my fault. It's a matter of execution that's the principle here. You can go through the entire game without even once using their site, and it's rarely mentioned in-game, so that doesn't help. This means a lot of players won't use the site. Some only visit once in a blue moon, but play the games often enough.

They could mitigate issues like this and get more players involved by at least giving you the option to receive alerts in game when you go online. PSS would have been PERFECT for this.

But again, Game Freak is retarded. Making things simple and convenient for the player? Forget about it.

>>33159235
FUCK
I MISSED THIS BECAUSE A FUCKING GLITCHES

>>33159279
Because of Game Freak*
fify senpai.

>>33159307
GF doesn't run the PGL

Here's some battles that came down to the wire. I've been real pleased with the wide variety of some people's teams on here

67WG-WWWW-WWW8-4PZJ
TWXG-WWWW-WWW8-4PZS
FXZW-WWWW-WWW8-4PP7
NLDG-WWWW-WWW8-4PLX
NPJG-WWWW-WWW8-4PZH
Y9YW-WWWW-WWW8-4PZD
UVTG-WWWW-WWW8-4PM6
TC9W-WWWW-WWW8-4PQF (My favorite)

>>33159140
I seem to recall the holocaster or whatever it was called gave you announcements about the tournaments in XY and at the start of ORAS.

>>33158823
Just follow Serebii on Twitter. He always posts when signups go live

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>>33139201
I am registered but I haven't chosen my team, give me six Showdown sets to inject them and I'll post results

>>33160744
Serperior @ Yache Berry
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power Electric
- Substitute
- Leech Seed

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I am mowing down just about everyone I meet. This feels great putting in effort and getting results, fuck.

>>33161132
What team?

>competition is already over.
Fuck this

>have a really close and fun battle
>opponent makes a mistake and i capitalize off it to secure my win
>they get salty and dc at the end just so i can't save the battle video

I really hate this shit.

>>33162077
? There is still an hour and half left.

>>33159451
I'm glad you said some considering how many Whimsicott/Weavile + Terrakion I saw.

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>>33162119

>>33162175
Maybe you already did your 45 battles? Because I can still battle.

>>33162175
Well, I just started a battle a minute ago, so I'm not sure what that's about.

>>33162189
>>33162187
Impossible. I swore i signed up during the registration.

Gamefreak and their technical issues

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>>33161368

>>33162342
I faced a guy who used amnesia on palosand and water shuriken greninja on palosand too on the first turn
Automatically activates weakness policy with special defense boost, defense, and attack, special attack boost on the first turn

I couldn't believe I beat him

>>33162342
Oh hey, I think I faced you. I won thanks to my TTar's Crunch KOing the sand castle before it finished me off. It's always scary to go against it because of how bulky it can be.

>>33154976
I used mine to first turn 1HKO Greninja with Leech Life several times. Was pretty fun, though it entirely banked on them not using water shuriken.

>>33162395
You must have been the first person I lost to, because I only lost to 2 people out of 21. After I saw that I was at 1710 and had a close call in that last match I think I'll call it a night.

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>>33155546
Here are three more. Sadly most of my battles were complete shit, and in fact, I saved one of those shit battles by accident, and I'm uploading it because I don't have any more.

LZFG-WWWW-WWW8-4UEP (pretty funny how this one ended, but it's also quite boring)
QLRG-WWWW-WWW8-4UFP (the guy was using a 4 mon team, and surprisingly he was almost at the 1600s)
UDYG-WWWW-WWW8-4UHA (this is the only remotely decent battle)

Also, I really hate how goddamn annoying it is to upload and watch battle videos in SM. It was so easy and convenient in ORAS, but no, they had to shit all over it or the world would end for keeping a good feature.

>>33159451
Those are some really cool battles! I wish mine were as good as yours, but I guess it's partly my fault for playing at weird hours where there is not many hardcore people.

>>33162564
I get more upset when people disconnect right before I win so I can't save the video

I had more where Maractus or masquarain swept their team but sadly I couldn't save them

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>follow me doesn't redirect sky drop
That would've been nice to learn before the last battle. What a lousy end to an otherwise mostly fun tourney.

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Finished my last match a little while ago. Overall had a great time, even if I was unprepared.

Dhelmise is Adamant, with perfect IVs everywhere except Speed. Its Attack EVs are maxed out, and the rest are spread between Defense and SpDefense.

Final match:
BY8G-WWWW-WWW8-4USW

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This was a nice competition, I'd say. I had fun, although I only played during the final day, and only did 10 battles total. I kept putting it off because I hadn't finished breeding and training, but I still never finished all that I wanted to do (partially due to disorganization and partially thanks to a sudden stomach problem that incapacitated me for a few days).
I had to settle for a less ideal team than I'd wanted, and even then, I feel like I made some mistakes with the team composition and item choice. But I think it turned out okay, and I finished with a W/L of 7/3.
Here's hoping we get more competitions with interesting rulesets like this one.

>>33162378
I fought that guy too, but I saw it coming a mile away so I had my Togekiss use Encore a lot to stop both mons from attacking and healing while I fished for burn damage. Worked really well and his castle went down before even attacking.

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I ended with 32 wins and 13 losses, putting me somewhere around the 1720s after my last match. This is the best I've done in one of these competitions, and I'm really pleased with the results (and RNG), given that I went with my favourites. Some of my team members really surprised me, too. If I were to grade each of them:

Togekiss - 10/10. The best member, though that came as no surprise, as it was the only meta pick. Could take a hit as well as hitting back hard, especially if WP activated. Follow Me was useful for some of my frailer team members, and encore got some usage too.
Sudowoodo - 9/10. The surprise MVP of a number of matches, netting me some clutch wins. Head smash wrecked shit (when it didn't fucking miss) and sucker punch was great for finishing stuff off.
Ninjask - 8/10. Another surprisingly good team member. I wanted to breed Final Gambit onto it, but it still managed to be useful, especially during the first or last turns of a battle. I was intending to use it primarily for passing speed boosts, but its main gimmick ended up being leech-lifing frail pokemon turn 1 (esp. Greninja).
Decidueye - 7/10. I brought my starter out of poke-pelago retirement for this, and it generally didn't disappoint. My only real complaint was its speed; I never truly appreciated how awkward it is until now.
Crawdaunt - 7.5/10. Needed proper support to not be annihilated, but hit like a fucking train when it wasn't being OHKO'd. Glad I invested in defence rather than speed, as that allowed it to survive Krookodile's earthquake on 3 hp, and hit back with Crabhammer.
Slowking - 5/10. I love Slowking, but it really didn't have much use in this tournament. I wanted another bulky mon, given how fragile most of my team was, but the opportunity for it to be used rarely arose.

How would people rank their team members, based on performance?