Pokémon Sage 2.0

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Sagemon checklist. If you're using a mon that hasn't been checked off, let me know. I probably won't be back on for a while, but I'll update it when I get back.

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>>33125277
mfw this game

I'm using Leukoon

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>>33125282
dunky did you make this

>>33125277
Im using Musberry and Larvabidae

>>33125193
>Look how that turned out
Do you mean that he's not in Tremol anymore?
Because Ricardo was never intended to be in Tremol in the first place, that was just a teaser.

>>33125298
Yes

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I'll say more when I finish it, but good job getting this far, my old friends.

Pokemon sage more like pokemon SHIT

>>33125439
Pokemon clover more like pokemon CRINGE

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>>33125269
greetings,not final.

Can someone make wine for phones. Having to play on a computer sucks dick.

>>33125554
Spotted the twelve year-old

fuck off

>>33125585
>>33125589
How is this contributing anything to discussion?

>>33125605
fuck off

>>33125277
I think it's safe to assume someone is using kidling/pyroat.

>>33125277
I'm using Fortifry

>>33125269
I am not into making maps or art though
I'd rather do gameplay, trainers, pokemon or balancing
nickdos#1604

What kinds of help do you need?

>>33125686
I know I am.

>>33125277
I'm using Psybex now.

>not using loneleaf only

>>33125277
I'm using Kertruffle, you can get it in the cave above route 2 after beating the first gym.

>these designs
Hnngh

>>33125277
pyroat and tuliep here

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>>33125282
is this semen demon in the game?

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If anyone wants to try sage randoms or build full teams the showdown clone is up at the link in the image.
4chan won't let me post the url in text
Keep in mind it's a work in progress and some stuff like a couple of the random movesets might bug out.

>>33126663
That semen demon is the electric e4

>>33126749
Will try when I get home.

>>33126663
No, you'll have to wait until the full release.

>>33126970
When

>>33126970
>>33126865
Her design is WIP though, and honestly that image of her doesn't look too much like any of the official submissions. I think someone who wants to fail to her would be well served making an appropriate image to submit and/or loads of fan art to campaign for the design.

>>33126998
Some time between 2020 and 2025.

>>33127006
It's literally the second design on the wiki, just with her shirt off and coat open. The rest is an art style difference and art quality is not part of the design.

>>33127019
There's no real similarity in her facial features between the two, her jacket is missing the collar, is shorter, and the green part is wider, the buttons are bigger, and she's missing her belt. The change in hair style could be ascribed to art differences, but that's about it.

I may have found a bug, not sure. When I used Yawn to put Stella's Crawglock to sleep, it did not use its Lum Berry to wake itself up until the turn afterwards. Not sure if this is a bug or an intended change.

>>33127034
That doesn't mean it's a different design. Lewd stuff is often not entirely on model. I mean, would you really expect her to have an open coat with only her bra under?

>>33127006
That's fanart of her about to get impregnated tho...

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>>33127019
>>33127034

>>33126883
sorry m8 looks like it's gonna have to go down for the next ~6 hours, I'll make sure it's up as soon as someone's alright to watch it.
only aussies care and need sleep
I'll make a fresh post in the thread when it's back up.

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>>33126571
the full team

>>33127251
>Mint Tuliep

>>33125269
I'm trying to download Sage, but apparently my anti-virus software (Norton 360) considers it a threat and removes it. It says that the file game.exe contains a threat called "WS.Reputation.1." At the same time, Norton 360 has a retarded habit of thinking that everything's a false positive, so I don't even know.

Has anybody else had this problem? If so, what did you do to work around it?

>>33127301
We describe this issue on the wiki page itself. Changing the icon removes the publisher's license that the file has and Sage isn't a verified publisher. So, certain antivirus programs may choose to scan it or in your case block it. The file is perfectly fine.

>>33127309
Ah, I didn't realise that. Thanks for the quick reply.

>>33125269
Can anyone post some pictures from the game?

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I have downloaded pokemon sage 2.0 but when I extract game.exe and click open, nothing happens. Any advice

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>>33127318

>>33127321
Did you try turning it on and off again

>>33127324
Is this based on the gen V engine or is the battle theme just meant to look similar to it?

>>33127334
You mean the pc?

>>33127338
more gen 4-ish aesthetics with gen 5 mechanics.

>>33127321
All I can think of is to re-extract, maybe?

Royjibiv best Sagemon

>>33127107
I mean, Sandra is in a bikini top and shorts in one of her best designs, so it's not like we have some line of puritanism that we would be crossing.

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>>33127321
I did it!
I just extracted this instead

Alright, here's an important question:

Why the FUCK would you make an original game rather than a rom hack?! People get clover and play it on an emulator, so why couldn't you all do the same? That way, it would be a whole lot less work, you could add more pokemon with ease, and you wouldn't have to have to code an entire fucking game over again for it. Answer me this:

WHY

>>33127384
glauqua/hydranticus best sagemons, but royjibiv is like number 3

>>33126749
showdown keeps saying I can't connect to the server

>>33127421
Because coding anything past gen 3 mechanics into a gen 3 game means you'd basically have to rewrite the game anyway?

Also: They're not making a game entirely from scratch, they're using RPGmaker with the Pokemon Essentials kit, I believe.

>>33127421
I'm guessing because that way they don't have to worry about Nintendo fucking them in the ass but mostly because it gives you more freedom in what you can do if you build your own game instead of just pasting assets into an existing one where you don't know how most of the code works.

>>33127447
Nintendo fucks games with original engines much much more often. Interpretations of the law in the fangame community for years was that ROM hacks were actually fine. But, just recently Nintendo CnD'd its first ROM hack.

>>33127426
It's down because the guy who manages it is an Aussie. It might be back up when he wakes up.

Is there an available thunder stone in the demo, or should I not bother raising a Pawter?

>>33127464
Raise it if you want, but there's no obtainable thunder stone. The only evolutionary stones available are moon and water and they're both hidden items.

>>33127468
Ehhh, I'll pass, then. Thanks for the info.

>>33127457
Thanks. I'll refresh it in a while then

>>33127421
It's only easier if you're on a little simple project that doesn't change much.

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Post your Sage squad

>>33127680
>Bouwee
Good choice

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>>33127680
>he doesn't nickname his pokemon

>>33127177
Doesn't mean it couldn't get confirmed.

>>33127810
>genus
>face
>species
>general name for several unrelated plants
>species
>genus
Why even make a theme if that's how consistent you're going to keep it?

Also why Valerian and chamomile for those two?

>>33127816
No, but it doesn't include the full body (no feet or hands in shot) so another image would have to be made of that version of the outfit.

>>33127177
>tfw you will never impregnate members of the elite four of a game you helped create

>>33127852
I just went off a list of medicinal herbs, desu. Valerian flowers remind me of Florabi/Floressum's, and when I'm cold I want chamomile tea.

It is not exactly a highly scientific process, I'll admit.

:> will get a proper name when she evolves. Maybe Thistle?

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>>33127680
Need a good water type. How do I get Craliber?

>>33127873
St. John's Wort.
Garlic
Black Qohosh
Cinchonna

>>33127881
fishin with a good rod.

>>33127881
Good Rod, fish in Andante Bay.

>>33127863
You never know. Tess hasn't been ruled out as a candidate for a post-game romance route.

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>>33127680
Rollin deep

>>33127873
If it didn't have to be medicinal, she could just be cotton. I can't think of a medicinal plant that's that fluffy. If we included poisons, milkweed is like that when the pods are bursting and the seeds go everywhere. But she gets less fluffy when she evolves anyway.

>>33127909
Yeah but only because there's absolutely zero plans to add romance routes.

>>33127915
And I just realized I named my Leukoon after a guy.

I'll rename her Peggy after Pegfilgrastim at the name rater.

>>33127900
Why those, specifically?

I was just going for something fuzzy.

>>33127925
St. John's wort is used as an over-the-counter herbal supplement for the treatment of depression and Lintle seems to cheer people up.
Cinchonna is the tree that we get quinine (antimalarial) and quinidine from.
Garlic is another one because in high doses it displays blood thinning capabilities.
Black Cohosh has no relation to Lintle, I just was drawing a blank on other herbal supplements .

My discord
@S K I M M E D#5906

>>33127942
I see. Thanks for the suggestions!

>>33127873
Huh, wormwood and yarrow and lavender were nice fits then.

Where are the rare candies you fuckers.

You know why I'm asking.

>>33128146
Pickup is a surefire way to find them.
There's one in Tremol.

>Silkinder doesn't display gender differences as a walking pokemon (i.e. my female Silkinder displays as a male when on the field).

Someone put this in the bug report survey. If you happen to be here or you've also encountered this bug can you explain how it happened? I can't replicate it.

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Not that far in yet
No nickname judging pls

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>>33128182
Sure, that's me. I evolved it on route 7 with it as my walking pokemon, and it displayed the male sprite instead of the female one.

It might be a 2.0 only issue, though; I haven't updated. I did, however, replicate it successfully (restarted my game when :> gained another level without evolving).

>>33128234
Huh, I didn't change that between patches. I'll try evolving in battle.

>>33128244
Also: neither zoning, swapping walking mons, or depositing and then withdrawing Silkinder fixed the issue.

>>33128234
>>33128254
Maybe your silkinder is trans.

>>33128254
Probably a compression issue, as the script calls for Graphics\Characters\[file]. There'll be a fix in the next patch if that's the case.

I fucking love the music and the area splash screens and the following sprites gj guys

>hassle going back to downwards cave to get kertruffle and get it paralyzed
>agonize fighting lowbies to level it up
>forget you need to be 26
FUCK

>>33128298
Thanks, now fuck off.

>>33128303
Who shit in your wheaties bub?

>>33128270
I love my bug son/daughter either way.

>>33128276
Yeah, I figured it was something like that. Weird that it only popped up when evolved via battling, though. Let me try saving and restarting and see if that clears it up.

>>33128310
Nah, I usually play it in a non-compressed version for testing. Don't worry about it.

>>33128310
w h o l e s o m e

>>33128317
Ah.

(it didn't)

Are TMs re-useable?

>>33128379
yes

>>33128381
thanks

if it wasn't obvious i'm the one programming/implementing and i'm lurking this thread
(the rest of the dev team is lurking too obviously)
if you have questions or bug reports go nuts

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HP Steel is a fucking lifesaver.

This thing is so fucking bulky god damn.

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>>33125269
>Demo 2.0 actually came out in my lifetime

Holy fuck, what a good day. I was hoping this would see the light of day again, I loved the dex info creativity of the mons, and the return of following mons.

>it's not Sage Sunday and I expected a shitposting thread saying aage was shit
Good job OP, you weren't a faggot today.

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>>33128402
And this guy fucks

>>33128402
>magic guard
>62 defense and 46 HP at level 19
Holy fuck.

>>33128437
It's got shit hp, m8. It's nowhere near as bulky as you think it might be.

>>33128454
It's not that bad if you consider the defense, and special isn't far behind.

>>33128462
It's basically Duskoir. It's good for the early game, but falls off a bit later on.

>>33128471
Well yeah. The early game is what we're playing.

>>33128471
Yeah but it's immune to ghost types and gets STAB Hyper Voice. Give this thing leftovers and it'll make up for those deficiencies.

>>33125269
>Route 1
>find pokeball
>catch Jolly Moxie Bird


jesus fucking christ...this games power creep is insane.

>>33128574
Enjoy your jolly moxie bird with paper defenses, though.

>>33128574
>>33128707
And that has a glaring weakness to the first gym and can't do shit to the second.

>>33128754
Yeah but who doesn't want that cutie on your team?

>>33128574
It's not really a power creep thing, there's just no shitmon paradigm. The good pokémon are distributed all over the region and the shit ones are rebalanced to be better.

Holy shit just get back to me when you have a finished product, nobody wants to play some 3 gym bullshit, what the fuck who cares

>>33128797
I disagree.

>>33128797
Considering this is the third thread in like two days, I'd say you're pretty wrong about no once wanting to play it.

are premier balls not in the game yet or something?

>>33128988
They are

>>33128988
Buy 10 balls at the mart.

>>33128797
Waiting until it's done would be a reasonable course of action and you're welcome to do so. This release is just for people who want something to tide them over since we're at about the mid way point in terms of playable content, and there's probably a couple years left in development. If you're not interested, just hide the thread. Assuming you're still around, we'll definitely be visible to you when the final build is done.

>>33125848

Same. Against my better judgement. This thing is so garbage and rip people stupid enough to use it AND use it without Adaptability.
Legitimately starting to hate this thing.

>>33125277

I'm using a male Lintle. It's a Silkinder right now and surprisingly useful for a pure bug. Hatching it and getting it caught up was pretty easy.

Also using Pomparunt female. It's a pompagoon right now and again, surprising useful. Then again after using Minarac and Fortifry anything doing damage seems useful.

>>33129104
Pompagoon is a bro, or I guess a sis in your case.

>>33129104
Minarac's problem is web ball is fucking useless on it. It has shit special attack and needs something better than fucking web ball. Give it bug bite or twinneedle or even fucking struggle bug, just get rid of web ball.

>>33129201
It gets bug bite but it's a little late

Is fawnings braveheart ability working?
i don't get any notification about a attack boost.

>>33129237
nope, braveheart does not work yet.

>>33129201
Struggle bug is also special and has a lower bp than web ball

>>33129206
Gib earlier.

>>33129292
Remove brave heart

Buff quibble

>>33129201
This game needs an earlier EXP share. So many of these early mons fall of really hard and don't evolve quickly enough.

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>>33125269

Jesus fucking christ, finally.

Now do more.
Don't stop.

>>33128437
>>33128454
>>33128462
It has the highest base defense of all non-legendaries

>>33129370
It's a great early game tank and it's strong enough to still take on stuff to the end of the game.

Add in the fact that it only takes SE damage from Dark types and 3 immunities and 2 resists

I just had a super close and intense battle with Foster where I had to use some surprisingly out of the box thinking to avoid being swept by ice ball, only for me to win with my last mon, a level 11 Fortifry, because of based quick claw.
I was really panicked as to why Snome was outspeeding me, I knew it had prankster but it's ice ball outsped Foliat but not Cubzero which confused me. After the dramatic win he explained Snowy Terrain and I had that wonderful moment of "oh fuck I get it now!" that I haven't had in Pokemon for a long time.
Bravo friends, I can't wait to get to Stella and Cameron now.

Also Fortifry is my new bro.

>>33129351
2 days later, is completelly forgotten

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>>33125277
Updating

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>the shadows in rustling forest aren't the same resolution as the game
This triggers me very hard.

>>33129771
no doppole or pawter users... feelsbadman

>>33129799
Me too anon, me too.

>>33129802
I'd use Pawter if I could evolve it.

>>33129799
I tried to warn them, but nobody listened to me.

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>>33129799
Here's it at small screen size but stretched where each pixel is a 4x4 (which is what I thought large screen size was).
I think it looks great like this.

>jamming out to rustling forest theme while typing this post
Feels great.

>>33129799
Meh.

>beat Stella
what the fuck did I just slog through
This is supposed to be the SECOND gym leader? You know, those things that are supposed to slowly get harder and prep you for lategame/E4 where that kind of shit belongs? If she was gym leader 4 I might not complain so much but god damn. Foster's coverage was annoying, but managable. I almost stopped playing the fucking demo because of Stella. I love everything else about Sage but holy shit, tone it down on the early gyms a touch.

>>33129928
Haha get gud loser.

>>33129936
There's a difference between "difficult" and "overkill." Anvelid outsped my entire team somehow, despite being a tanky steel type, and Shield Bash 2 shot most things. Crawglock crit me more times that I can count on both hands over the course of 5 battles and almost always swept my entire team unless I could sleep-lock it. Pyroat was literally useless against 2/3 pokemon who could one shot with 4x weakess while it could half them at most. The spikes trick was cute but with everything else it's retarded. If this was gym 4, as I said, no complaints, the game is starting to get difficult. Smashing people's faces into the ground with shit like that gym 2 is bad design.

>>33130115
It gets easier. Crawglock has Sniper by the way. Not sure why anvelid was outspeeding but Stella is a major milestone. Congratulations friend!!!

>>33129928
>>33130115
Just use Llamarsh with Double Kick/Rock Smash, it worked for me, took two battles. I believe that Fowattle is a good option too, even though i haven't use it on this gym since my Quibble hadn't evolved yet.

>>33130203
Someone was telling me they beat Magnitogre using a level 14 Alpint too. Apparently Bullet Seed and Miracle seed makes for an actual tank.

>>33130183
>>33130203
I had 3 pokemon that could hit for super effective damage and 2 status move users but still had this much difficulty with pokemon equal level to Stella's. It shouldn't get easier, it should start easier and get more difficult as you go.
Am I crazy for thinking this? I'm stating to feel like I am.

>>33125277
>Craliber
>Crawglock
Can it learn self destruct?

I love that you have to be clever and think more than just "press the super effective move".
It's like I'm a dumb kid playing Pokemon for the first time again.

>>33129771
I'm using a Snome right now but can't decide whether it's better or worse then Bluffin. Prefer it's design & evo though

Also aiming to grab myself a Kertruffle now (just beat Foster) & evolve it into Perishroom asap because I love the deflated cutie

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>>33127680
Team at the end of the demo

Add an 8 character name limit please!

>>33130115
you're too used to fighting gym leaders and having absolutely no challenge whatsoever
THAT is your problem

WHY IS IT SO FUCKING SLOW OUT OF BATTLES?

>>33130423
your computer is shit

>>33130447
its brand new and has tons of ram

>>33130387
I also believe in proper scaling. The ONLY way to deal with Spikes this early is to keep a Capig with Rapid Spin, something you're not going to know if you play blind, and will have to go back a considerable distance to obtain and then train up to proper level. Both gym leaders so far have been specifically equipped with moves to directly counter the starters. Shield Bash seems kind of broken since it turns defensive tanks into sweepers. I'm all for difficulty, but the game is so obviously stacked against you I would almost call it sadistic. Last time I felt like a game hated me this much I was playing Dark Souls. If I had some tools to help deal with these things it would be nice but as is you have to basically just bash your sub-par level-up sets against their competitive style play. It's not fun, it's tedious.
>>33130461
>>33130447
Can confirm, my computer runs games way better looking than this at 90+ FPS but I get massive frame drops outside of battles and buildings.

>>33130504
Minarac comes with Rapid Spin too, although that's only in an optional side cave. Vanilla Spikes shouldn't even be concerning anyway

>>33130423
Lucky you, yours is only slow out of battle

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Found some glitches. First one might not be a glitch, but it definitely looks out of place. Second one is water ripples showing up under your feet when you run across the bridge to the Scrapyard.

>>33129928
It's pretty difficult.

I had to grind up my Bouwee to help deal. Shit tanked everything on Stella's team

Okay so can someone drop me a hint about what I'm supposed to do at the Ranch? I'm pretty sure there's something going on but I've interacted with everything I can come up with & don't want to go on the wiki in case it gives too much away

Or you know, just tell me there's actually nothing to do there

>>33130504
you weren't able to solve the ice puzzle were you

>>33130871
Come back at night

>>33130674
wow that scrapyard one is wew tier.
how did we miss that?

>>33130879
It's 01:19 here. Farmer's in bed having a nightmare, ships are looking through the window Now what?

>>33130897
oh you actually need to talk to him at day first, then comeback later at night, unlucky timing on your part (or you could change your computers system clock to daytime real quick *cough cough*)

>>33130504
Fuck I wish you were streaming this DSP

>>33130908
God damn

>>33127512
>>33127457
Sagedown is back up

>>33126749

New patch soon.
Save compatible
If you've got a bug killing you last call

I fixed those two Scrapyard bugs
>>33130674

>>33129771
My Minerac just evolved! Put him in the screen shot.

>>33131065
Did the Silkinder bug get fixed?

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>>33127251
aaaand
just finished the demo
enjoyed a hell lot, can't wait for the next updates

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>>33131197
also did a quickie shitty sketch of best starter
love me some goats

>>33131197
Nice Penglacier. How long did you play for?

>>33131220
around 8-9 hours
i'm a fan of penglacier. the way the legs look bother me a little but the rest of the design is 10/10

Is there a friendship checker in this game? I've hiked from Dromia to Dacapo and back a couple of times and my Silkinder still doesn't seem to want to evolve.

>>33131536

Mine evolved at level 28. Mostly just kept it from dying, gave it one Calcium and left it follow me around.

>>33131570
I'm trying to get mine to evolve at 11.

>>33129201
put that in the feedback survey

>>33129833
that's what it should be, actually, report it not showing up like that as a bug

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>>33129771
Update

>mushburry harvest
New favorite. Literally unbeatable.

Anyway to make it so the game doesn't auto pause on inactive window?

If not can we add that feature?

>>33131706
that was extremely unfun to watch

>>33131716
It was extremely fun to play

Reminder that Sagedown is up and we have some anons in here. Sage Randoms is in too so you don't have to worry about building teams.
>>33126749

>>33131730
I bet it was, honestly

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HE TOOK THE MIDNIGHT TRAIN GOING ANYYYYYWHERE

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PS I found James.

Top tiling here guys.

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Oh hey chao

Stella's gym is fucking amazing. This theme is straight molten steel. I love it. I love the tubas.

fuck it i won't wait
http://www.mediafire.com/file/o1u6o304cxxo7bv/Sage+2.0.2+Public+Copy.zip

CHANGES:
Imported psybeam’s animation (psybolt) for now.
Fixed Northington’s house being an ethereal void.
Fixed event in Dronia Scrapyard being left in from testing.
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Fixed following forms not working by including Graphics\Characters\form overworlds in.
This is a temp fix. It should be recoded.
Fixed being able to battle trainers in the Dronia and Andante Gyms after beating the Gym Leader.
Fixed fucking shadows in Quaver causing a softlock.
Added in some preliminary events to the Ranch, allowing for access to the upper level once the trough is moved.
Fixed a vending machine in Dronia.
Camper on Route 5 no longer has an illegal Alpint.
Fixed an issue with Alpint’s backsprite having a random white pixel floating in it.
Changed Sofia’s hair in the trchar001, girl_fish_offset, girl_bike, and girl_run charsets per https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276201111105306626/339417290413965313/new_sofia_hair.gif
Fixed phone call location errors

NOT FIXED:
Copycat
Brave Heart
Singularity
Odor Sleuth animation
Some bullshit with Quaver shadows
Anything else I don't fucking know

Download is up on the wiki.

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>>33132410
Are you single?

>>33132419
https://youtu.be/-N0yXGVWS1Y?t=10

>>33132410
how do I patch without losing my save file? pretend that it is very late and I am very stupid.

>>33132439
download the new version
run the game.exe in it

that's all. it's not really a patch to install, it's just a new full version

>>33132410
can you fix the forst overlay so it looks like >>33129833

>>33132410
My Paramoth is no longer displaying male walking pokemon animations but now I can't interact with it. That supposed to be happening/will be fixed when the temp fix is straightened out?

>>33132459
Swap it out and back in, maybe. I don't experience that issue and I'm on the same version as you.

>>33132459
Oh, wait, that's interesting. When I deposited it and pulled it out again to reset the graphics, I didn't actually set it as my walking pokemon again (but it displayed as such anyway). When I actually set it to follow, it responded normally.

The dex could use more birds

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>the mop water after rustling forest isn't slippery like an ice tile
DROPPED
WHOLE GAME RUINED

>>33131206
why is it giving me bedroom eyes

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>>33129799
>>33129833
Found another example of this. Somberado's HP bar is only half a "pixel" wide here.

Weirdly this means that playing with higher resolutions actually gives you a more accurate estimate of the opponents HP.

>Chelonite used withdraw!
>It's super effective against the opposing Chelonite's health bar!

>>33132410
based

>>33132778
>>33132684
surveymonkey dot com
/r/Demo2pointOBugReportSurvey

I noticed something that may not be a bug but is really annoying : when you try to use an item like a potion on a pokémon that took damage during the battle, if you misclick and select a healthy pokémon, the potion will be used, it consumes a turn and your pokémon gets attacked. Then the game tells you it has no effect.
It would be way better if the game warned before, stopped the action and didn't make you completely waste an turn and an intem.

>>33132858
I'm not a dummy who misclicks with potions, but how does it work in GF Pokemon?

>>33132858
That's certainly a bug, report it here >>33132800

I'm spamming quick attack against Stella's Manitogre and wondering where my life went wrong; please send help

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>>33132873
Update: if it's stupid but it works, it's not really stupid, right?

>>33132873
get a platypus

>>33132861
In maun games it tells you it won't have any effect and nothing happens so you can correct your action.

>>33132871
Will do.

>>33132882
If you had to use potions to make it work, then yes, if not you're good.

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It's said that the Bicycle enables must faster movement than the running shoes, but it's not really the case desu...aren't we supposed to have an acceleration or something with B like the shoes?

>>33132946
suggest that the bike be faster in demo feedback, it's something that can be adjuisted based on that sort of feedback

Is it true you drink the good stuff?

How long before this project gets finished, anyway?

Obviously I get that release timelines are a sticky subject, but is this really something to wait another five or so years for? Gen 8 will probably be out by then or, heck, even Gen 9.

>>33133215
Well, the game has been in development for five years but the first half or so was preliminary design stuff, particularly the pokédex, and just a lack of well set up design process. After we crossed those hurdles, the only real hold-up was the plot, because that sort of has to be done all at once in order to be coherent. Now we can move at the speed that mapping gets done, since that's the slowest area of development. Current pace suggests that we'll be done in about two years, but that's assuming that any unforseen obstacles we may encounter don't slow us down past the mapping speed, and also that they don't occur at the very end, when mapping will decline somewhat in relevance because the main focus will be testing and polish. It's also assuming that the interest and effort holds at a similar level, but past trends suggest that it will.

>>33132634
i dunno. i just wanted to draw it with that expression

>>33133333
nice get. CHECKED

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>>33133333
W
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>>33133215
how long is a piece of string? It wont take decades, but it wont be overnight.

>>33133333
Good numbers

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>>33133333
bedroom eyes confirmed best expression

>>33133533
i don't like this

>>33133260
So the game is basically completely written at this point?

>>33133646
The basic outline for the plot exists. The dialogues are usually written after the maps and events have been created.

>>33133646
To elaborate, there's not a full script with all the dialogue and detailed description of where people stand or what animations play, but every plot event is planned. We know the important points that the dialogue should cover and what exactly should be done that might need to be animated and where it goes in the region, just not the exact details of the presentation. So no individual words, no "this character starts the event on this tile then walks to this tile" and location may be as non-specific as "this city" or "this route". The final level of detail comes as we get to that part of the game and have the area and the specifics figured out more thoroughly and it's fresh in our minds. There's still the possibility for additional little fun events and things which aren't part of the main plot to be worked in, but we've completed the biggest and most contentious part, and that was the part which we needed to have complete in order to know which parts go where.

>>33133821
Oh, and none of the code details are planned either, although the code for these things is usually pretty straightforward.

>>33133718
>>33133821
>>33133835

How many people are working on this, btw?

>>33133843
There's currently 57 people who are set up as contributing to something in the Discord chat, so that'll be the official number, but probably a little over half of those (including me) just hang around and contribute occasionally, the plurality of the work is done by somewhere between one and two dozen folks. The former group will increase due to the demo release, and we're hoping that the latter will as well.

>start up the game
>do intro
>is the text supposed to be this slow?
>Get out of intro
>walking is also frustrating, it keeps hanging
>text gets even worse
There's something wrong with y'all's code. This shit is unplayable.

you should probably remove the box themes that have cannon Pokemon in them.

>>33133896
Yeah, there's a lot of UI that isn't the final version yet.

>>33133896
They've got Pokemon in the fucking name, man. If Nintendo is gonna set the ninjas on them, they're not going to hold off just because they don't have cannon Pokemon designs on the box themes.

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>>33133904
>>33133906
Oh it was a different problem. Excuse my retardation.

>>33133906
that's not it, it's that people are autisic about not wanting to explictly establish that sage takes place in the same canon as the GF games'

there was a whole shistorm about a weathervain that looked like a torchic

>>33133260
>Current pace suggests that we'll be done in about two years
no

>>33133896
If this game gets enough exposure, especially once the complete version is out, it will only be a matter of time until Mario peeks its CG nightmare face at this game.

>>33133930
That's one guy and he wants to fuck gorillas though.

>>33132946
The bike is faster than the running shoes. By quite a bit.

>>33131065
Upper left wall in the train station is walk-through-able.

>>33134075
Get the new patch, it fixes that.

Is there an emulator that this works on for phones? I'm excited to play, but it won't work with MyBoy

>>33134125
if you find one let us know. we don't think so.

I might be stupid, but what do I do at Dreamdery Ranch at night after talking to the farmer? Is an event supposed to trigger?

>>33134125
It's a standalone, not a rom-hack. It won't work on phones.

>>33134146
Talk to the farmer, come back at night when the Dreamdery are swarming the window, examine them.

Capig is a fucking beast with defence curl + rollout.

>>33133890
try playing on a computer instead of a brick

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Too many puns from Stella.

Maybe I lucked out because Crawglock missed a Mirror Shot on my Llamarsh, and Anvelid didn't use Forge Press on my Rocano, but Stella wasn't that bad at all. I was underleveled slightly and really the only time I got worried was with Crawglock when it set up Focus Energy on its first turn.

The star of the show though was definitely Iguadium. Magnitogre had no response to Iguadium's Arm Thrusts and I was able to whittle down the Iron Giant's HP with that while forcing it to waste time on Recycling its Sitrus Berry.

I think people who will truly struggle with Stella are people who aren't using diverse teams. Crawglock would have killed my Iguadium but Alpint and Llamarsh were more than capable of handling Crawglock. Anvelid and spikes was an issue, and I smiled when it started to use Roar after using Spikes. Very crafty, though maybe consider Dragon Tail instead of Roar? Unless Anvelid is outspeeding its opponents it's not going to last long, especially if Rocano can 2-shot it with Flame Burst and I imagine Pyroat can hit harder.

All in all, Stella was an enjoyable battle and that gym theme is one of the best I've ever heard. I felt like I was in the middle of a forge and I hadn't seen a gym environment like that since Clair's remade gym in HGSS.

Good work you all.

>>33134540
I won't have that option for a month though, and I want to give relevant feedback.

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>>33134682
The aftermath.

Llamarsh was sturdy in battle here. Ate a bunch of spikes after Anvelid roared Rocano out and then took a Water Pulse from Crawglock. Had about 20HP left when Magnitogre killed it with Bulldoze. I didn't switch out much because of Spikes, but my next mon to go to would have been Leukoon since Magic Guard is a fucking beast. At that point I imagine I could have outstalled Magnitogre by spamming Night Shade or using Curse.

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Haters will say it's photoshopped

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>>33134758
PS, spacing error in that sentence.

Got a script hanging error during a battle in Foster's gym & the game autosaved and restarted.
My Kidling fainted during the initial battle, and my Bluffin would have gotten enough experience to level up to level 11 and learn Swift.
After the restart, the game started the battle over from scratch *but* Kiddling remained knocked out, and Bluffin was already set to level 11 (despite not having actually gone through the EXP screen and or the new move menus), so he missed out on Swift.

Is there a way to roll back to a previous save or is it a minor inconvenience I'll just have to live with?

Perishroom looks comfy as hell

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Since entering Dronia there has been a very steady decline in the quality of dialogue. Please shoot whomever wrote this.

The quality of writing here is on par with fucking tumblr. It is neither realistic or humorous and it is jarring to read.

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>>33134822
You don't need fucking ellipses if you're going to stick a question mark at the end there. Is this cosplayer pondering who they are rhetorically, as if for dramatic pause? Or is the cosplayer trailing off to build up for an exclamatory statement? I don't know because this is shit. Pick one and go with it.

>>33134786
Do you use a mac? I remember macs having a issue with the foster fight.

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>>33134830
Then here. See, this is how you should be using ellipses. This guy is a fucking tool but maybe that's his schtick. Now I haven't hit enter yet, so I swear to fucking god these grunts better laugh at this guy for being such a tool because my first thought looking at him and how he entered is that this guy is either some blatant ripoff of the Great Saiyaman or he's retardedly strong because this also screams overpowered idiot savant.

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>>33134848
Maybe make the dots appear slowly on the screen as if there is no response. Seeing "What?" appear on the same screen isn't bad, but it lacks the oomph that most people likely shared when this jabroni jumped onto the screen to steal juicy XP.

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>>33134857
I don't think you guys earned using a conjunction to start a sentence here. Seems off.

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>>33134870
It's been 3 minutes, how does this guy already know about the theft?

>>33134877
jeez, calm down there, aaron sorkin

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>>33134877
Are you fucking kidding me? He just left after all that? For what fucking purpose was there in that entire poorly written scene? I was excited to face off against three grunts and instead the janitor from /sp/ swooped in, confused four characters and the player, stole our XP, and then after talking shit, spun away while displaying no talent whatsoever. Fonzi and the Greasers are doing better against a bunch of grunts and then this guy talks a bunch of smack and then leaves. I mean honestly, if the intention of that encounter was to introduce us to Pokeman, then color me wholly unimpressed and angry. He's a superhero, but he just fucking ran away after challenging a bunch of grunts to battle. Like, he said, "Stand back, I'm going to handle this." and then he spun around in circles and shouted, "Pokeman away!" and then ran off before actually dealing with the grunts. My impression of this guy is that he's going to be annoying to interact with and he will most likely kill steal us farther on in the future while being utterly worthless in the grand scheme of the plot.

>>33134882
The writing and dialogue was fine before Dronia so seeing this is discouraging and flat out disappointing.

>>33134843
I'm on Windows 10. It wasn't the fight with Foster, it was the trainer just before him on the righthand side. His Fawning was at about 1/3 health when I got the error.

>>33134922
That scene was very well recieved by pretty much everyone who played it and commentated on it so far, both inside and outside the project. You may be the first to complain about it to such an extent, but I have read your critique and taken it to heart.

I understand your complaints, but believe me when I say that everything in this event happened for a thought-out reason.

>>33134130
I'm not really good with this stuff, but has anyone tried running it in a DOSbox?

>>33134950
I like his idea of doing three slow dots and then a delayed "What?" instead of a simple normalpaced "... What?"

>>33134950
It's disappointing because so far my impression of Team Aurum is that they are thieves. They tried robbing someones pokemon, they robbed a museum, and they're picking fights with others. I can see not all of them are the same, but that scene was very jarring to me. What's even more disappointing is that immediately afterwards, the battles are actually somewhat challenging. Fowattle scared the shit out of me. These guys seem somewhat competent in battle. That sends a message that they aren't to be messed with. But I can't rationalize that when I keep thinking back to what could only be something out of fanfiction in that initial encounter and how you lost the opportunity to hammer that home with the three grunts.

IF you're trying to make Pokeman seem more serious while also portraying him as retarded, then have the player get hammered by those three grunts. Have it be an unwinnable battle that you don't whiteout at. The grunts send out level 50 Turkistadors and Hyekuzas that just sweep your team. Pokeman jumps in before they mug you and beat you up, heals your pokemon, and then kicks their asses while you go forward.

You can keep the weebshit entrance if you want, you can make him be as dopey and fucking stupid as you want, but that scene clashes with the images you're trying to portray and its to the detriment of the project as a whole.

I appreciate you listening to my feedback and concerns.

Bug report: Tempest's secondary effect doesn't actually work and I almost got fucked out of a gym badge because of it.

(alternately, Tempest's secondary effect does work but doesn't display a message and the weather effect still displays, meaning I'm a bad, but that's still a bug)

>>33135003
Honestly, that sounds a lot dumber than a giant nerd playing bait to help clear the way. Why's he got to be taken seriously, other than the fact that you're mad a joke character took MUH EXPEES?

>>33135003
Pokéman's initial appearance is supposed to introduce him as goofy and silly and even rather incompetent. I don't want to discuss his motives and methods here for fear of spoilers, but he is deliberately not portrayed as competent from the get-go.

>>33135003
Please repeat what you're saying here in the plot section of the feedback survey so that we can get back to it more easily later.

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>>33135003
See, the dialogue was ok with the grunts, and fine since that scene, but then this. Weren't the grunts telling this person that there was an intruder? Didn't the last grunt just say that they'd get flayed if they let you through? This person should know who you are or roughly assume you're the intruder. Also heck and ellipses, please no.

>>33135022
I'm mad because it was jarring. He's some giant nerd playing bait? He didn't say anything to get the grunts to chase him, he called them out and said he'd fight them, and then he ran away. Why the grunts would chase him when he's not directly jeopardizing their operation is beyond me. If he wants to play bait then he should battle them on the side allowing you to go through.

>>33135032
You got goofy down, and certainly incompetent, but I dont get silly here. I imagine there's an overarching plot arc here, and I can get that, but my first impression is fuck this guy I hope I dont see him again.

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>>33135056
I stand corrected.

>>33134822
you can thank mungo

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Bitching about Tempest aside, demo cleared! Wormwood turned out to be the Andante Gym's stealth MVP when flame body + flame burst from Glocto fucked over most of the rest of my team.

Looking at what the mans had, though, I'm fucking lucky the AI didn't screw me over; if Nurshary had tried to set up instead of HURRR DEPTH CHARGE, I probably would have gotten stalled out.

You can blame the quality of the scrapyard dialogue on the really poorly organized writing of the script by Leda (and the general bad writing on mungo). What happened was Mungo and Chao wrote pretty much the entirety of the museum (which was fine quality wise) and scrapyard without having much imput given or edits made. Before it was confirmed I rewrote the entire scrapyard post-Pokémon entrance because I, too, thought it was really bad. For some god forsaken reason instead of voting one script over the other the decision was made to Frankenstein in (most) of my grunt dialogue in with a revised version of Mungo/Chao's script and some stuff leda threw in. What resulted was a really jarringly spotty dialogue script whose tones and styles constantly change.

This is unforunately how most of the non-route dialogue is written and so you can expect similar situations in the future.

>>33135056
I guess the issue here is that you see the Aurum grunts as needing to be portrayed as this colossal threat while I see them as a bunch of kind of shitty punks (who we beat up on at least one occasion before) who are too terrified of their leader to think before blindly taking off after someone who MIGHT put their mission in jeopardy by reporting it but probably won't.

Like, there's really nothing in the Demo that makes the Aurum grunts out to be particularly capable or competent in anything but lifting, so I'm not sure why you think they should have level 50 Pokemon and unwinnable cutscene battle you just to make Pokeman look okay. I'd personally find that a lot more intolerable/jarring.

>>33135139
I thought they were competent because I didnt steamroll them while battling. They were good battles. It wasn't like team rocket with their endless raticates and zubats or the horde of poochyenas from gen3. The battles themselves are what hit that home for me.

>>33135131
Everything was fine up to that point honestly. I might have come on strong, and I dont mean it as an insult to anyone, but it just made me stop and it threw me off. And I'm sharing this because I know you guys work hard and I know you guys bust your asses and I'd like to see you improve.

>>33135160
I guess that's fair, yeah.

Either way, having Pokeman more effectively provoke the grunts before fleeing or having him stay and fight wouldn't be amiss (and I came off a bit strongly too, mostly because I found the XP stealing complaints silly and that seemed to be your main issue).

Is there any reason why Kobalt can't learn Shield Bash via TM?

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I'm about to head to work, but this is my second day of attempting to troubleshoot this game. I'd really like to play- it looks like a lot of fun. However, no matter how many times I download or re-extract the game, whenever I open the game application, all I get is a blank black screen. It unfortunately does a whole lot of nothing. My antivirus isn't blocking it, so far as I can tell. I'm fair stumped at this point. I already deleted System 32, it didn't help.

>>33135269
One sec, that's a known Essentials error - you need some sort of extra dll; I believe. Let me do some googling.

>>33135269
Did you hit enter twice?

>>33135269
did you try running it as administrator or in windows xp/7/tryeverything compatibility mode?

>>33135131
You sound about as salty as when trump won. It passed a supermajoriy vote. Get over it.

>>33134996
I also agree that the ellipsis followed be a question mark is just bad form no matter the situation.

Is it just me or is fishing a bit unresponsive at times?

>>33135313
Hm, I thought it was, but I can't seem to find the explanation I found before, so there's a chance I'm talking out of my ass.

>>33135360
It is, but maybe that's just key choice.

>>33135079
Mungo's dialog is Chao-tier to be honest.

>>33135360
Yeah, I had that problem too. About half the time I'd hit the fish button and nothing'd happen.

>>33135370
Sorry anon but that's pretty harsh. Please apologie to the poor fellow, at least he can spell.

>>33135403
Anyone who thinks "heck" should be in dialogue, except perhaps spoken by children, is a fool. It merely draws attention to the fact that you're not using stronger profanity; it's better to omit expletive entirely if you're not going to use the one that would actually fit.

Note that no pokémon game does this.

>>33135500
I agree with this, either say hell or reword it entirely

>>33135403
Poor spelling can be solved with a spell-check. It's not that big a problem in the grand scheme of things.

>>33135577
You'd be surprised

>>33135577
i no spell cheque can bee helpful

>>33135601
That's one way to prove your own point hah

>>33135500
This anon is right

>>33135500
this is something multiple people tried to address and ended up being outvoted on

Please include it and any problems you have with dialogue in the feedback. Please be as specific as you can so it can get fixed in feedback review

Why is Cameron's gym on land, once you enter you turn to the left, further inland, but when you're in the actual gym you're underwater and there's like 4 tiers of depth? It would make a lot more sense thematically and logically if you did something like boated out to his gym which is in the ocean. If he's a researcher then that makes triple the sense, he can study pokemon in their natural habitat there and educate the public about it.

Doesn't even have to be too far out. You can even have a little dive spot around the gym.

>>33135823
The less memes the better. I still cringe from Gen6 to this day.

>>33135859
Or a small dive/surf path to get to his gym and back if you don't want to take the boat.

>>33135859
Anon do you want me to make love to you? Because I will make love to you.

Also I'm about to make a new thread, you guys can hold posts for that one

>>33135859
You don't turn left when you enter the gym. You turn right, and then descend down into the bay where you can see a dive spot going down into the depths.

>>33135929

here you go