Pokémon Sage 2.0

Oh shit. I'll give it a try, I'm bored.

>>33121465
Congrats, keep it up!

>>33121465
Reminder:
http://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/03/pokemon-sage-fan-project-nearly-implodes-due-to-sjw-politics/

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>>33121482

>>33121465
Almost 5 years ago
>A bunch of amateurs, most of which with absolutely no experience
And it shows.

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>>33121482
Fucking lol.

>>33121499
And then there's this asshole.

>>33121543
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?

fuck off

>>33121550
Underneath his face is exposed wires because he's a cyborg

>>33121487
Pokemon sage got Sage'd

Go to pokemon clover for legit romhacks

>>33121556
Why? Why are you upset?

>>33121569
Who hurt you?

>>33121543
>sage has solgaleo
>but no fairies

>>33121569
are you asking for more game of thrones spoilers

What time is night ingame? I dont want to go too far away from the ranch

>>33121644
8 PM your time.

>>33121604
Diggle, Thea, and Samantha were killed on the island. Felicity is in a coma.
Slade lied to Oliver about his life before the island, as he was really an assassin-for-hire.
Richard Dragon is the main villain of the season, who rallies the Bratva to try to take out Oliver.

>>33121682
>arrow
Lol what is this 2014?

>>33121465
>homage

Well, at least you fixed this mistake from the last thread.

>>33121655
Thanks anon! I want the ao ao.

>>33121707
>pokemon sage thread
It just might be.

>We have finally reached a great milestone: the completion of our Demo 2.0.

Oh heck yeah

>>33121720
i do make an effort friend

>>33121482
>SJWs have destroyed the game
>posting this article in a thread about how Sage is making concrete progress and has dropped a milestone demo

can you be any more confused and frustrated about life

>>33121543
How much do you think the middle guy can bench? Those are the forearms of a fucking grizzly bear.

>>33121472
Hope you have fun anon, remember to submit feedback

>>33121478
Thank you anon-san <3

How long until the full game releases?

>>33121827
One gorillion years

Truth is anon, you'll never get a solid answer about that. Could be two years, could be four, could be six. Who knows. It gets here when it gets here. It's not a train on a track, it's a wagon on a trail.

>>33121827
i would estimate three years, wouldn't be surprised if four, disappointed if five. it really really depends on how our mapping speed goes, as that's pretty much the pace setter for the rest of development.

>>33121843
>and the programmers keep dying of dysentery

>>33121796
>bench
>forearm

>>33121862
>one dev is mistaken for a bear and is shot and killed for his meat

>>33121482
Wow, that sucks. As a contributer from thread one to about 6 months in, I'm sorry to hear that the helm was seized by people who'd let that go down.
Smokey, if you're here, you're a piece of shit and should literally kill yourself and anyone who shares your shitty genes.

>>33121873
>maybe he shouldn't have called himself "smokey"

>>33121760
>concrete progress
>only 3 gyms in 5 years
Where the fuck are you buying your concrete?

>>33121889
Lol Chao is a piece of shit. Smokey is an asshole but Chao is a massive piece of shit. All that moron had to do was just not provoke shit, know his audience, and it would have been a non-issue.

>>33121873
That wouldn't be mistake.

Oh hey, is Moose Friend still involved?

>>33121936
nope

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>>33121543
>>33121550
>>33121562
>>33121602
>>33121796
>>33121864
WAIT A MINUTE...
THAT MASK...!

>>33121936
around, but not really involved anymore. said hi and congratulated us tho

>>33121889
I've been summoned

What seems to be the problem here stranger

>>33121952
Lol chao is talking shit at you

>>33121889

>>33121970
Eh what else is new

Is everyone enjoying the demo?

>>33121940
>>33121951

Aah okay, I saw their name on the wiki, used to know them/work with them and I was just impressed.

>>33121984
Yeah! I'm about to fuck over the forest with my big ole donkey dick. PS running back to the Pokemon center to heal is no big deal at all. Having a healer in the forest would totally be overkill.

>>33122004
THANK YOU

You have just now validated me more than my own father ever has anon. I love you.

>>33121970
Yep, definitely.

>>33122004
I found it tedious...

>>33122017
My bigger complaint is that I have no motherfucking money. Now that's tedious.

>>33122046
Everything else is closer together so I think we can handle on long stretch of land.

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>>33121543
>Jasper
>Mr. Worldwide
>Monsoon
Great character design, guys

>>33122092
Pitbull is white dude

>>33121889
>>33121482
>actually falling for this

Even majora, who partially supports GG, agreed that that article was a pile of bullshit

>>33122128
You fucking racist member of the alt-right

>>33122162
at least pokemon clover is made by racist devs

>>33122162
If Pitbull was going to be born black, but at the last second the human species devs decided to randomly survey a white version of Pitbull during the minor changes stage of design EVEN THOUGH by every precedent skin tone is LOCKED during major changes and we had NEVER surveyed a radical skin tone change in minor changes and then the shitty white version of Pitbull ended up winning and a tiny white turd came out of Pitbull's mom, you might have a point. But that's not the case.

>>33122092
That's not Pitbull it's bald Idris Elba

Question for the devs, is the accepted (muh head)canon for the players Dad that they're the badge checker at the Elite Four? And does Simon/Sophia have last names? I want to writefag something.

>>33122128
>pitbull
>white
"no".

>>33122227
yes,no

>>33122227
Yes and no, respectively

Pls share when you're done

>>33122204
the idea that skin color is any more confirmed than hair or eye color prior to minor changes is a fallacy. ORN always has been and always will be a stupid, shitty idea

Can one ask questions that don't deserve their own thread here? Anyone really wanting to catch a koblin but thrown off that the wiki says their evos are not available in-game? what's up with that?

>>33122310
Both evos are available in the game. Easily. Have fun!

>>33122310
You can evolve koblin, what you are just reading means that the evolutions aren't catchable in the wild.

why are video game fans piss

>>33122348
I blame their parents

>>33122392
i bet they blame their parents too anyways

>>33122326
>>33122345
Oh sweet! thanks anons

How do i get out of Legato Crossroads? There's a bunch of horses down road and a guy cutting a tree on the left side. The cave near the observatory is blocked too by rocks.
Do i have to do something? I guess the busy scientist in the saloon might be important, but he just says he's busy.

>>33122465
If you're b8ing well done I'm triggered

If not, talk to Ricardo dude. Come on

>>33122465
try talking to the nice cowboy fella

>>33122480
>>33122483
I have beaten him already.

>>33122497
Did you pick up the Pokeball

>>33122497
Talk to everyone

>>33122497
did you take back the pokemon he stole from your rival

>>33122511
>>33122516
Huh, i thought it was just decoration, it blends very well with the counter. Thanks

>>33122539
he literally told you to take it and snickered as he put it on the table, dude

>>33122539
>>33122564
DONT DO IT, IT'S A BOMB!

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my dick

IS

MADE

OF

DIAMONDS

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>>33122583
MUH BRO

>>33122569
drat, foiled again

JFC I can't wait to get home and play this.

Is Fawning's Brave Heart ability broken or not implementef? It never seems to proc for me when enemies use boost moves.

>>33122614
i'll give it a look later

>>33122583
>that fighting ring
ew
fists or nothing

>>33122683
We were gonna but chose to do a placeholder to get the demo out faster

>>33122683
Alright, take down the demo until the fists are in devs, literally unplayable!

>>33122614
ok, it is not.

* Brave Heart (similar to Defiant)
* Conditioning
* Discretion
* Malice
* Perforate
* Team Player
* Mooch - does it try another berry if it couldn't use the first tried?
* Overshadow
* Pollution - ability version of Acid Rain
* Siphon
* Spectrum - similar to Multitype, with a triggering like Intimidate

is the full list of our abilities not coded in.

i can try to make it for 2.0.2, our old programmers are busy and i wasn't aware this wasn't done.

Feedback for devs, either boost how much money you get from trainer battles or lower costs please.

>>33122863
Reminder to fill out the feedback form. We do listen to it.

>>33122878
I will I will! I know how it all works guys. I'm just also posting it here to stimulate discussion on ontopic.

Fucking $700 for a great ball my ass.

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Devs I've spotted a bug. In the far right grass of the Dreamdery Ranch there seems to be a clipped pine tree sticking out. Not sure if that's essentials being buggy or what but thought I'd post it for you!

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>>33122925
Nevermind just Alpint

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>>33122925
>>33122942
wow anon

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>>33121472
>>33121465
OK, I played it until the 1st gym. So far so good, I'd just...
>put the player's house closer to the town entrance so when you're leveling your freshly caught route 1 mon, it's easier to come back and heal them
>maaaaaaybe, just maybe, take off Thunder Fang off Foster's Cubzero

Rest is pretty cool so far, the cries are a bit weird but maybe it's my old PC shitting the bed. I helped a bit before it was a game and in the earlier stages, so don't give up guys! I love everything about the game, and I really wanna see it completed. Cheers.

>>33123032
[REDACTED] looks steamed!

But why?

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Quick, anons! Claim your MVP.

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So, I heard that shinies weren't implemented, but...

is this a bug?

>>33123046
So far I would agree. Pebblosa has helped a ton too but not as much as Fawning has.

>>33123065
That's an alternate form.
You can also find alternate Musburry forms, along with gendered forms for Silkinder, Pompagoon, and a few others.

>>33123065
No you just caught a doppole with an ultra ball. That's his ultra ball now bub.

Wow, Quibble sucks

>>33123088
don't quibble over quibble, okay?

>>33123088
>>33123090
It's too fucking slow. I swear to god whoever did the stats for this thing must really hate this line.

>>33123085
It had that sprite before I caught it, though. Also: Caught it with a great ball.

>>33123081
Makes sense. It came up as the shiny sprite on the wiki, so I was a little confused.

Anyway, feedback: Please put some sort of heal point between Quaver and Legato Town; that's three routes, two rival fights, two team fights and a big ol' forest with no place to rest unless you want to do a lot of backtracking.

Maybe at the Dreamdery Ranch?

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>>33123046

>>33123093
Quibble's (not Fowattle's or Turk's tho) speed is fine, the problem is that it's found too late for the stats it has.

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>>33123110
Jesus fucking christ is yours on the juice?

>>33123106
I want to sleep in the hay on that dreamdery loft. The fact that I cannot get to that loft bugs the shit out of me.

Sleep in the loft would be ok with me, if you need to finish the event there first would work.

>>33123088
it evolves too late

>>33123117
His has an Adamant nature, for one. I guess his might also have some better IVs and more EVs.

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>>33123046
Not even a question.

>>33123126
This is the best idea ever.

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>>33123046
I love my meme mon

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>>33123146
Fuck this trough so hard. I have a visceral need to climb this ladder and click the empty space between the hay. The fact that I cannot accomplish this pisses me off.

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>Not keeping Rapid Spin on your Minarac
ISHYGDDT

despite having spent years working on this game i legit forgot it was a thing

as soon as i escape i'm gonna play the new demo

:)

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>>33123191
Y-you better be pulling my leg anon

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>>33123244
Why would I pull your leg over a hazards cleaner?

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>>33123110
Alpint is fucking adorable, but I already have two grass types and I already turned down Musburry.

SEND HELP

>>33123273
grass mono

>>33123106
>It had that sprite before I caught it, though. Also: Caught it with a great ball.

Doppole can be found with different pokeball caps.

>>33123289
Yeah, that seems to be the case.

Thanks!

>>33123273
Rename your Sheep Al after the generic name Alprazolam. It'll be even more lowkey.

In all seriousness, add Alpint. Sunnybunny is fast and hard but frail. Your team as a whole is really vulnerable to physical attackers and you need something bulky. Consider that your only tank right now is Dreamdery and to a degree Llamarsh. Alpint will provide great bulk that you will be able to rely on especially in drown out battles where you need a pokemon to take a few hits while you heal up the rest of your team. Plus, I'm 99% certain that Brolacari is in this build and if you have him you're fucking set between him, Alpint, and Sunnybunny.

>>33123305
Jesus
>hits fast and hard, but frail
>drawn not drown

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The byzaboo in me is happy.
But the rational part of me is horrified that I'm being hit on by a llama-deer.

These interactions man.

>>33123273
Your team is fine as is. You don't need to worry about having too many grass types. If you really want to add Alpint then that's also fine.

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HE
HAS
NO
FAIRY
TYPE

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Jesus fucking christ this thing hits hard. This is after one pursuit.

Also,
GET IN THE FUCKING BALL

>>33123349
I'm a little sad that there are no fairies too, but oh well.

>>33123363
that fucker have 115 atk

>>33123409
The Macabra, not the Pebblosa.

>>33123032
we will be releasing a Baby Mode after the full release and your notes will be considered when the time comes

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Reposting full demo Pokedex.

>>33123032
take the feedback survey and put your feedback in there

>>33123093
>It's too fucking slow. I swear to god whoever did the stats for this thing must really hate this line.
Well you aren't wrong

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>>33122925
fucking pissed myself, you're so fucking hilarious you should do stand up

>>33123114
>>33123093
see
>>33123496

Seriously, posting about this stuff here is fine but the feedback survey is where this sort of thing will count the most

>>33123547
but also remember you're allowed to stimulate conversation on this thread and if you have questions that need answers this is the best place to do it for the time being

but also yes please fill out survey afterwards

Covfefe is catchable

>>33123547
I said I'd fill it out sheesh.

>>33121760
>>33121760
>butthurt over being called out
lel fuck off carson/smokey & gang

>>33123663
the SJW Illuminati is out to get you man. You better throw them off your trail by playing the demo and then offering constructive criticism either here or in the feedback survey

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>>33123585
Hey, uh, you should fill out the feedback survey.

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>>33123686
You're not the king, you can't tell me what to do.
tfw no king

>>33123663
>carson butthurt over being called out
>after he told a dev to his face that he hoped his dad would die in a terrorist attack

>>33123686
lol harambe

>>33123694
hi chao have you played the demo yet. did you get to the part where we fixed all of your shitty dialogue

>>33123710
n-n-no!! i-is it g-g-g-g-g-good?

>>33123694
didn't wish hard enough

>>33121827
well it's been five years for three gyms. So lets call it nine more.

>>33123755
Weren't the first 3 years literally just the dex?

>>33123759
The first 2.5 was mostly dex related.

>>33123488
>my buddy Glauqua isn't in

why even keep playing

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I'm making a checklist of mons people have used so far.
If a mon you've used (and I mean you've actually used it in battles, not just caught) isn't on the list then tell me so I can update it.

>>33123785
I'm coming for Rocano.

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>>33123802
Oh and add Macabra to that list

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>>33123785
Cross off Chelonite

>>33123785
I'm using Bluffin, Skullarva/Maskoon, and Eurycoon. I used Capig for Foster's gym.

>>33123895
What did you name your Erycoon

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>>33123832
>>33123887
>>33123895
Got it

>>33123785
I'm using Pyroat, Bluffin, Minarac and Alpint

>>33123899
Yarrow. Got a theme going.

or I will when I find the fucking name rater

>>33123927
I gotcha.

>>33123927
Name Rater's in Dronia

>>33124019
Awesome. I'm pretty close, then.

>>33121465
It wouldn't be bad if I streamed this on Twitch would it? I don't want this to end up gettin a C&D like Prism.

>>33124060
You should be fine, bunch of us devs watched someone stream yesterday

>>33124060
stream it under RPG Maker

>>33124060
depends, are you important
if no, fine
if yes, pls no

>>33124079
>>33124084
>>33124088
Awesome, I'll try streaming tomorrow then.

>>33124060
no go ahead, we'll all come watch. post stream pls

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>>33123919
I have used Aquilor, Coltergeist, and my dude right here

>>33124096
Twitch channel is Erdeia
It'll be on here around 5pm EST

>it's a "3 mons with moves the player can't have access to at that point in the game and/or cheated movesets so you have to grind, overlevel or cheese" first gym
why do idiots think this is good design? cubzero isn't supposed to get ice fang until lvl 18

>>33124119
we revamped the moveset of cubzero and didn't change foster to match.

>>33124119
git gud

>>33124119
Gym Leaders can get breeding and TM moves. The gym leader should have access to better moves because they raise their pokemon better than other trainers.

>>33124119
I mean you're not wrong

>>33124119
For me the problem was more that the gym was USE CAPIG OR GO HOME.

>>33124119
fuck off

Gym mons should be stronger than their wild counterparts. Egg moves are always a thing too man, Ice Fang could be one of cubzero's egg move

>>33124158
No, they shouldn't have illegal moves. It doesn't get ice fang from breeding or TMs.

>>33124164
>use capig or go home
Pengliff learns Rock Throw at 15. Fawning learns Double Kick at 11.

I killed Snome with Pebblosa. Get good.

>>33124167
If it can learn the move at any point, it can be bred on there.

>>33124156
TOP KEK

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>>33124167

>>33124164
Cubzero sweeps, try it

>>33124173
Fawning would have been a pretty good choice, yeah. Shoulda used that instead because I'm more a fan of its design.

OH WELL. I basically set up on Pengliff and rolled out through the rest of Foster's team.

>>33124164
Fawning blow this the fuck out though.

>>33124205
Do you have rapid spin minarac?

>>33124225
>slow fragile ground buge in an ice gym

a-am I being memed

>>33124173
The problem is that nobody is going to use the early route shitmons out of habit unless you're one of the idiots who designed this shit.
>Pengliff learns Rock Throw at 15
Why would anyone invest that much early game exp into a fucking ice/rock type?

>>33124257
>early route shitmons
Dohohohoho

>>33124257
If they're going to have trouble on the first gym, then they'll have to train atleast one if the early game mons that can get them through.

>>33124257
Fawning isn't bad at all. Sure, if Sage had a competitive battle simulator like Showdown, Buckston would suck there, but in-game Fawning is very good. Mine even took Stella's Magnitogre with Rock Smash.

>>33124257
>The problem is that nobody is going to use the early route shitmons out of habit unless you're one of the idiots who designed this shit.
dohohoho you're in for a surprise.

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>>33124257
>early route shitmons
Hahahahhahahaha Stella is going to rape your ass DRY.

By the way, what the fuck is wrong with you Chao?

>>33124257
hahahahahahahahaha

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Who do I replace for Leukoon?

>>33124326
charlie
nerf penglacier

>>33124326
Nerfer

>>33124338
I removed Charlie

>>33124340
Why would I nerf my bro?

>>33124326
Definitely not the lizard, Llamarsh, or Macabra, they're good.

>>33124257
your and idiot

>>33124338
Nah. I have yet to see someone use Penglacier yet.

Are shinies a thing in this demo?

>>33124388
No.

>>33124393
Alright, thank you. I wont waste my time looking then.

>>33124357
and i've yet to see a burrmudail used yet, suck my dick bitch

>>33124388
shinies technically exist, but shiny sprites haven't been implemented. there's a shiny indicator next to the mon's name and a sparkle when it appears, but it doesn't look any different

>circlejerk can't fathom why giving the first gym leader coverage moves is a bad idea
>samefag to shout down anyone suggesting the early game is poorly balanced
For the record I stomped it with Iguadium. But if you can't see how this is going to be a massive problem for people playing blind, I'm going to have fun laughing at the poor level curve when it's finished in 2027.

>>33124398
>but it doesn't look any different
Thanks for explaining it into further details. But since the sprites aren't in yet, I won't bother. Maybe next demo I'll go shiny hunting.

>>33124398
I'll use a burrmudail in... roughly 14 levels, fuck me

>>33124407
ftr I'm a dev and I think it's dumb too.

>>33124407
It used to be worse. The Ice Fang thing is a mistake that was kept over.

>>33124398
This is not true. Shinies have been removed from this demo. It is impossible to encounter one.

>>33124407
Put it in the feedback survey then.

For the record, in 1.5, foster was a fucking pushover. I agree he's a little too good here, but the reason he's go good because he was adjuisted to be harder since he was too easy before

>>33124435
well that's bogus

>>33124407
In my case, the issue is less coverage moves and more how the coverage moves are perfectly tuned to hit basically every Pokemon you can get at that point for SE damage.

I'm not really good at articulating what exactly the problem is with that, only that is bothers me a lot.

>>33124444
It bothers you that Foster is set in such a way that he is covered for all possible scenarios and forces you into certain team composition choices.

Yeah, you're not wrong, but also, dude, you need to git gud. They're not early game shitmons. Fawning can carry your ass past the sixth gym. You have ice types this early in game.

>>33124444
nice quad quads
this was something that bugged me too, not because i found it impossible to beat (after a couple tries you can learn what you need to get in order to beat him), but just because having the gym leaders actually be competent is so jarring and obviously "fuck casuals" dev levels
ultimately though i don't have a problem with it because one thing that's always irked me about the pokemon universe is that gym leaders who are supposedly badass trainers and local sociopolitical figures somehow have shitmons comparable to a trainer who just got their first pokemon 5 miles up the road earlier that morning. it makes sense that someone whose job it is to be good at pokemon is, you know, good at pokemon

>>33124417
The evolution levels really do bother me. I mean, Bluffin is worse than Spearow, and Burrmudal is just a faster special attacking Fearow, so why does it evolve at level 32? 22-23 would be fine, but at level 32 you have to carry a worse Spearow until the third gym.
Same thing with Harpee, Quibble, and Pomparunt. Their evolved forms aren't even that good (in fact, Pomparunt's whole line just sucks), so why have them evolve so late?

>>33124453
>It bothers you that Foster is set in such a way that he is covered for all possible scenarios

kinda, but..

> forces you into certain team composition choices.

Yeah, I guess this is it.

I got through the first gym with a single pokemon, but that was a pokemon I benched immediately after because it didn't appeal to me and I didn't actually want it on my team - I literally just raised it to beat Foster. Feelsbadman.

>>33124278
spoilerwe have a showdown ripoff
I bugged the guy with the serb and it should be running later

>Pomparunt's whole line just sucks
Opinion completely discounted.

>>33124453
The problem with Fawning is that it's not appealing. A flat normal type with one bad ability and a second that's not even coded in the game yet.

>>33124467
Because our game is long. You're going to be that strong before gym 4

>>33124489
So get over it. This isn't Smogon. PvE is way different than PvP. You want the team of cool looking pokemon but you can't get them. But you're not going to get through this game with one or two pokemon. This isn't your Father's Pokemon game. You're not wrong about the abilities, shit I fucking hate them and wish Brave Heart is never implemented, but it's a solid pokemon.

Apropos of nothing, this 'you have criticism about the game's balance? git gud' stuff reminds me of games like Pokemon Reborn, where the first gym had level 18 selfdestructing Electrodes, and Touhoumon, where Brock had a touhou with a fucking STAB Hyper Beam-equivalent.

These are things that can be overcome if you 'git gud', but they shouldn't have to be.

>>33124474
>I got through the first gym with a single pokemon, but that was a pokemon I benched immediately after because it didn't appeal to me and I didn't actually want it on my team - I literally just raised it to beat Foster. Feelsbadman.
You can beat foster with
Kidling, Aguade, Cubzero, Fawning, Capig, Snome, Koblin and Pebblosa with little actual difficulty.

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>>33124439
Having shinies without the proper sprite for them made it bug out.

>>33124478
and the worst part is overshadowed by scraggy line

>>33122942
This is the funniest thing i have seen this week

>>33124536
I mean there's a difference between Pengliff having Aqua Jet and Smack Down and Brock having a touhou with STAB Hyper Beam-equivalent.

This game punishes you for treating it like a regular pokemon game, but it's not something that can't be overcome. I had little trouble with Foster and I was underleveled. The people that are having issues with Foster seem to be Foliat players (which is to be expected), and people who go into Sage with pre-conceived notions of "shitmons" and other stereotypes about the pokemon present. "Git gud" in this sense means you can't just throw your Pyroat out there and use Flame Wheel on everything and OHKO it and 2 minutes later you have a gym badge. "Git gud" means you're given a challenge and you're expected to overcome it, and it's a lesson that the guy should be fucking learning from because the later gyms will only get more difficult.

If he thinks this is bad, Stella's Crawglock is going to eat him alive.

>>33124610
>I mean there's a difference between Pengliff having Aqua Jet and Smack Down and Brock having a touhou with STAB Hyper Beam-equivalent.

Oh, definitely. It's more that the two games I mentioned each have a community that basically went 'it's okay if we put these bullshit things in the game because it's supposed to be hard, and people who complain about it can just git gud'.

>>33124610
There is no good reason to give the very first boss a clear advantage against the player who has a poor variety of mons to choose from. That's stacking the game against the player, which is poor design and difficulty.

>If he thinks this is bad, Stella's Crawglock is going to eat him alive.
I never said it was bad as in hard, I said it was bad game design.

Does anyone else feel like the wild Pokemon encounter rate is a little high?

>>33124696
>A clear advantage
one of his mons can counter ice types
none can counter normal types or dark types
that's most of the mons.

>>33124720
Not sure if it's too high, but repels should certainly be available earlier.

>>33124720
As far as we know it's pretty analagous to main games. There are provisions to limit them from being too dumb, like you have 4 safe steps after each battle minimum.

>>33124720
AFAIK it's the default but the default itself might be too high, especially since Sage has more mandatory encounter tiles than most GF maps.

>>33124739
Snome's got HP Fighting.

>>33121482
Is this real?

If even half of those screenshots are real then no fucking wonder this game is taking eons to complete.

Keeping it anonymous means keeping personal bullshit out of it.

>>33124788
It should be HP Ground. If it's somehow reverted back to Fighting, I guess I'll have to fix that.

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Who to replace for Rocano?

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>>33121465
Nice!

>>33124797
To be fair, I'm going by what the wiki says.

>>33124792
it's not, one person got assblasted and decided to try and shame everyone else working on the project because of it.

>>33124804
I've been an onlooker for Sage's development, is there anywhere I can find out the other side for myself?

While people in the thread are saying the article is biased I've seen none of the other side

>>33124739
The player has no access to breeding, berries and TMs barring hidden power. I suspect his mons were given EVs and optimal IVs and natures too. It's fine to do it later on when the player has much more options, but it's too much for the very first roadblock in the game when you only have a hand full of mons to pick from.

>>33124820
i think the other side is explained in the comments in that article

>>33124788
>>33124797
snome shouldn't have hp anything

By the way, if any of the programmers are here: It's yellow, and you need to check the event.

>>33124820
if you're an onlooker, you'd have the other side, wouldn't you?

>>33124827
But the handful of mons to pick from are more than capable of doing so. If the pokemon weren't capable, then it would be a problem, but there are plenty of pokemon from the amount available that can handle Foster.

Sorry you have to use Capig, Fawning, Pengliff, or Cubzero.

For fucks sake, I stuck Pebblosa in front of Snome and used Sand-Attack and Lick until it was paralyzed and it was completely neutered. The fight isn't even that bad if you wait out Hail on Pengliff and don't let it set it up again.

The fact that I have literally never played this game before but got through on my first try while underleveled tells me that the people playing need to get good.

>>33124827
IVs, yes. EVs and natures, no.

FOSTER
Foster
3,SUPERPOTION
PENGLIFF,13,,ICESHARD,SMACKDOWN,HAIL,AQUAJET,0,F,,,,31
CUBZERO,13,,ICEFANG,BITE,QUICKATTACK,THUNDERFANG,1,M,,,,31
SNOME,16,SITRUSBERRY,HIDDENPOWER,DEFENSECURL,SNOWYTERRAIN,ICEBALL,1,M,,,,30

This is its code.
Snome's IVs don't really matter, it has some custom set ones per a script.

>>33124827
yes but have you considered the following;
>Ice types

>>33124820
The article is the other side, not a middle ground. There wasn't collaboration on the article, it was chao leaving and whining to an online publication.

someone didn't want to learn that more caps lock and pissing off the entire community doesn't make you popular in a community project. he took the chance on leaving and burning bridges with the article in a crap attempt to drum up attention.

>>33124744

That's pretty cool and useful.

>>33124769

I think that's it,actually. It's very common when you have to cross tons of grass to get to mandatory areas which makes it a slog if you're not packing the repels.

>>33124832
I've looked through it and I can't make sense of it, too many conflicting viewpoints

>>33124841
Well seeing as you fucked off from /vp/ it's not like people who frequent the board know what bullshit drama the devs are getting up to

>>33124858
I'm not a dev, friend.

>>33124820
I can be a primary source for yah, this happened right after the Christmas break so development had stalled to begin with, with many members doing family holiday related things. So to say the entire project was stalled by it is misinformation.

>>33124835
What's yellow? What event?

>>33124858
well that's the problem. you've been given the viewpoints and they conflict.

if you have any specific questions, i can answer them i guess.

>>33124869
There's a vending machine in Dromia with a message for the programmer.

>>33124873
>>33124868
My issue isn't that they conflict, it's that neither side really addresses the other side

The author's side accuses the other side of being cunts to him and posts screenshots, the other side accuses the same and posts other screenshots, but neither address the screenshots of the other

I guess my real question is how the balance of blame for this shitstorm lies, I'm assuming it's fairly equal from what I've seen

I don't believe the article's claim that development stalls because of personal bullshit, but then again I don't know how long this went on for, I know you said it happened around Christmas but things like this don't just appear out of nowhere, it must have happened over some time

The UI autist kind of had a point actually, even though it's not the point he actually elucidated: having a white border around black for most of the thing but then a black border around white for the text does kinda clash.

>>33119359
Yes, that's what I mean. All original in every aesthetic aspect. The core engine code is used with permission for its intended purpose (and actually, we're adding engine features for sage too) and mechanics can't be copyrighted so the my illegal thing we're using is the "poké" morpheme. Not that that's the reason we're doing it, it's got just a guideline to make sure we do a thorough job putting out a great project and don't accidentally get lazy.

>>33121083
>going to uni
>no life
This checks out, to be honest.

>>33124888
Why do you care so much, anyway? I mean, I can understand being worried about delays for the project, but this seems more like hornets' nest kicking than anything else.

I'm a programmer. How could I contribute?

>>33124888
>The author's side accuses the other side of being cunts to him and posts screenshots, the other side accuses the same and posts other screenshots, but neither address the screenshots of the other
I mean, both sides were being cunts (though it was somewhat justified), that's not conflicting.

You guys should change the type chart a bit.

>>33124898
I don't like the subtle jab that I'm asking questions to cause trouble anon. You could at least jab me and answer me.
Sage started on /vp/ and the first time it comes back to /vp/ properly with something worth showing it also comes with a shitstorm of bullshit drama.

What I want is the game to be finished and it to be good, and I'm curious about what's going on behind the scenes. I don't have any skills for game making so I wouldn't be let into the skype group even if I asked, so here is the only place I can find out what's actually happening.

>>33124909
If both sides were being cunts then why not not just get rid of all the people involved?

>>33124895
a dev made some UI we're looking at. we didn't care about it for 2.0. we might put in something better just for a 2.0.x or whatever.

>>33124888
the balance of blame? i mean, we all think "the writer" was an idiot. he flipped out after he got removed from one of the dev chats (plot) for being a fuckup. that's entirely on him.
you'd have to take away agency from "the writer" for his actions and assign the blame for his words to people causing him to flip out.

as for the political bullshit, blame leans on him he said stupid shit and people got mad at him for it, saying rude things.

>>33124882
thanks, i completely forgot i slipped that one in there. i took out all the vending machines but that one and then one of our devs found it, bought all the fresh waters from it (because i didn't find it when it sold them), and used them to steamroll the gym leader.

>>33124898
it's not easy fighting esjaydubyas. you have to waste your life asking questions about irrelevant situations to try and start shit

>>33124928
Have people at least banned politics as a subject now? Obvious suggestion I know

>>33124888
Carson and Smokey are assholes but they know how to separate work from personal life. They clash heavily with Chao who has said some utterly inflammatory shit. The problem arises where Carson loves to argue and Smokey fervently fights for his beliefs. Neither are really SWJ but the topics tended to gravitate to SWJ-esque issues such as rape, GG, and Brexit. While those two have deeply held beliefs, so does Chao on the other side of the political spectrum.

In a perfect world, these topics do not come up at all and life is good. But Chao is a fucking idiot who, knowing full well these things about those two, tries to argue against them in public forums, including on some points that are utterly undefensible, i.e., some scenario where rape is justified or some shit.

Often these three would argue about these things and because everyone in Sage is incredibly proud and stubborn, no one would stop arguing. Chao would refuse to apologize or shut up, and Carson and Smokey would continue to egg him on and keep arguing.

Now Smokey and Carson had their faults, but they never let this bleed over into on-topic work chats. Chao wasn't the same. Chao became paranoid and every critique of his piss-poor work was because of his political beliefs instead of the fact of how stupid he was or how poor his work was. On top of that, Chao routinely misled the rest of the project due to his position in plotchat and straight up lied to others to prop himself and his work up despite the fact that others called him out on his behavior. Eventually, Chao began making personal attacks on other contributors IN working chats, including but not limited to attacks regarding someone transitioning genders, and insinuating that a person wasn't abused enough by their father as a child. This wasn't in off-topic, this was in on-topic. His poor contributions, his inability to separate personal from business, and his actions that caused delays lead to his expulsion.

>>33124928
No prob!

>>33124888
they're both cunts lol

>>33124927
Honestly, it feels like you ARE asking questions to cause trouble. Why do you need so badly to know about drama that happened a while ago? Why do you need both sides to explain themselves to you?

>>33124940
No because most people in sage are adults and understand not everyone has the same opinion.

>>33124079
>>33124084
>>33124088
>>33124096
Sadly after testing whether or not I could, the gameplay and audio become very desynced due to my computer just being utter garbage. Rip stream. I'll still play through the demo on my own time though.

>>33121482
Off-topic chat is separate from the actual Dec process and Carson and Smokey aren't actually particularly important. They, like the guy who was kicked for being an absolute tool that directly hindered shit getting done, are just fags with opinions. Nothing in the article has anything to do with the actual reasons for development pace. It's slow because we're trying to make a professional game without a professional schedule. The only thing that gets right is that Smokey is a fuck head.

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>STILL liking Grolem

>>33124929
More jabs at someone trying to ask an honest question. /vp/ is kept in the dark and when we ask questions we get insulted.

>>33124944
Finally, thanks anon for being the only person willing to explain this to me. Now I understand what's going on. All three are at fault. While I get that Smokey and Carson were also arguing, at least they kept it where it belonged.

>>33124955
Oh fuck off. I don't "need to know badly", I'm not demanding an explanation, I'm asking from the perspective of someone who isn't in your special little club for someone to help me understand what the fuck goes on in there and why there are articles claiming that Sage is dying. >>>>33124944 is the only anon to actually answer my question, you in particular anon have just insulted me. Makes me wonder, are YOU looking to cause trouble?

>>33125002
To the others credit, it's a touchy subject and it's one that can cause a lot of issues. It wasn't a great situation and it's tough to talk about.

>>33124845
You had to abuse sand attack and paralysis to beat it and you're telling me there's no problem?

>>33125002
I'm still not a dev, m8. My perspective on this is that I really don't care what a bunch of angry people who like to use unrelated websites to slander each other get up to in their spare time, and I'd rather talk about they game they're finally putting out instead of them.

>>33125016
No I didnt, I used sand attack twice and licked once and then switched to aguade to kill it with bite.

>>33121827
Best case scenario is two years. Best case scenario won't happen, because it never fucking does. Three years is possible but optimistic, and fours my current estimate, but I would be very much not surprised if it slipped to five. If we hit six though, that would be just sad. Or it would mean we decided to get a ton of post-game content in before release. But I think that aside from some basic stuff that's already planned, extra razzle dazzle will only be in post release patches.

>>33122092
Thanks! We hope our lots of porn of them.

>>33125026
>extra razzle dazzle will only be in post release patches.

Except the moment you guys release a close to fuctional done build nintendo will come after you. Your next release after this one should be the one you expect to be the final for good release.

>>33122228
>hurr you're only white if you're an anglo-german American like me
Don't you have some male rompers to go buy?

>>33125057
It will be

>>33124927
>If both sides were being cunts then why not not just get rid of all the people involved?
Because that's a lot of people.

>>33122564
This is the second person to post about missing it, though. Maybe we need to add some kind of little animation when he puts it there, because apparently it needs to be even more fucking obvious.

>>33124979
damn shame. Hope you enjoy it anyway

>>33125057
>Your next release after this one should be the one you expect to be the final for good release.
That's the generally agreed upon plan

>>33125016
>you had to use moves other than attacking moves, wow you fucking cheater
oh dear god this game is definitely not for you friend

>>33125016
God forbid someone has to use status moves.

>>33123126
I agree 100%. This is now on the list of features that I will be butt hurt if it's missing, along with super western Legato (implemented) the train graveyard (now a generic junkyard, I'm salty as fuck) the hobo dojo (not implemented but at least people are talking about it) and the elite four as a big spectacle with an audience (not implemented, but central enough that I'm not too concerned about it not happening).

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Do you think he mad?

>>33123363
Honestly, this turned out really fucking horrifying for a Pokémon.

>>33124410
There won't be a next demo. We're going all the way to release after this.

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>>33125101
>>33125105
>depending on a luck based strategy to beat the first boss is okay you're just bad
The funniest thing in this whole terrible conversation is that when I aired similar grievances about the first build of the game where you had to fight Sombrerado with faint attack I got attacked in the same exact way. Look how that turned out.

>>33125193
And Somberado was moved and handled!

Except this isn't Somberado this early. This is Foster having coverage.

>>33125193
The fight in Legato still has Feint Attack Somberado, tho?

Why is Snome so impossible to find?

>>33125193
Not everybody in the project agrees with the people that reply to you.

>>33125217
it's cute. cute!

>>33125193
I don't even think foster is properly balanced. I'm just saying complaining that someone has to use status moves is retarded.

RNG manipulation is part of pokemon and a legitimate strategy.

>>33124888
Smokey and Chao are both faggots but Chao let his faggotry interfere with the project so he was kicked while Smokey wasn't.

>>33125193
Foster hasn't really changed since the last Demo that was released

>>33125218
those people should quit jerking themselves off about the difficulty and actually do a run without on purpose picking Pokemon that suck.

fighting foster with 6 mons that are under level because you caught so many should get you beat and it does. complain about his levels if you want to. there's nothing wrong with his moves.

new
>>33125269

>>33125057
>implying they won't come after us just for this build

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tiling error famalam

>>33121465
I am not into making maps or art though
I'd rather do gameplay or balancing
nickdos#1604

>>33125963
that's not a tiling error, that's a passability error, you shouldn't be able to stand there

>>33125963
the nice thing about you posting it here is that you can usually guarantee i see it. fixed.