Pokemon TCG/O General: Letting the old thread die edition

>>33076870
>(Dead)
So close.

>Winning a long match against metagross as ninetales


Pretty good.

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you know what do

ger btw

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>>33077090
could've been better, I might mess around using sudowoodo though

>>33077143
I want to titfuck Mareanie

With rough seas with primal clash being rotated out are there any other good water stadiums? I know it got reprinted in Japan who don't really need it reprinted considering they are still XY on...

Are there any other codes i should know of as a new player besides the ones in the pastebins?

>>33077262
Brooklet Hill. I've seen a decent number of people switch over to it for their water decks.

>>33077290
there are more codes for more copies of rallying cry. some of them used to give you power relay but now all of them give rallying cry.
you can get up to like, 7 copies. You only need 4 though.

Basically just type in the names of sets.

>>33077292
Oh yeah that should speed up getting some Pokemon each turn early game shame it might not save as many matches as rough seas has.

>Forest of giantplants and archeops are banned from expanded
>Not trevenant

Remove this fucking thing it gets t1 item lock even without the stadium

>>33074786
yes, but I've forgotten the name
tabletop simulator also has a thing containing all sets ever.

>>33077195
Mill has no support right now, Otherwise I like it.

>>33077319
>Mill has no support right now
Durant BKP, Rhyperior BSH, Bewear BSH, Charizard-GX, Team Rocket's Handiwork. Mill has plenty of support.

>>33077392
Okay sure if you're going to be pedantic, mill WILL have good support in under two weeks.

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>>33077220
And she loves you too, anon.

>>33077376
Pokebeach creative forums are a better place for this kind of thing. Guys there do this shit full time and will catch all your wording or balance issues. Someone might even do graphics if you ask.

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>there are people posting in this very thread that bought a playset of Decidueye believing that it would still be playable in expanded after AOR rotated

Owlcucks on suicide watch.

Garb needs to be reworked so that it can't just be put into any deck with a hard hitting, high HP pokemon like Drampa or Espeon the amount of items to take those two down is pretty much mandatory either you don't kill the Drampa or Espeon because they can use items freely or you do and you are dealing with Garb.

>>33077875
The best counter I have seen people say is just play mirror match garb which leads us down the night march hole again.

>>33077890
what both really need is some kind of "exile from graveyard" that way they can't pile up too far.

But that requires either bringing back the lost zone, or shuffling it back into the deck which is perhaps too strong.

>>33077999
Lost Zone should return, it was a good mechanic

>>33078066
they originally added it because distortion world, right?

Ultra dimension seems like the next best thing to me.

>>33078058
>his amazing idea of deciplume
lost it

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>>33078058
>assblasted faggot loses the banlist gamble
Just as satisfying to see in PTCG as MTG

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>>33078058

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Got 4 Guardians Rising codes and 6 S&M base set codes (if people still want those). Reply with what you want, a throw away email and attach a picture of your favorite Pokemon!

I don't know how to build a deck; pls respond. ; _ ;

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>>33078324
I'll take whatever you'll give me.
[email protected]

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>>33078324
>>33078412
Thanks mate. Pretty decent pack.

>>33078346

2-3 tapu lele

4 sycamore
3-4 n
2 lysandre
4 ultra ball
4 vs seeker
1-2 rescue stretcher
1-3 field blower
2-4 choice band

8-12 energy

then pick a pokemon, then add tech trainers to support them.

>>33078324
Guardians Rising; please. ;_ ;

[email protected]

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>>33078324
[email protected]

I'll take a Guardians

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>>33076870
Wew glad my LGS doesn't care about street dates

>>33078492
Hope you get some good pulls.

>>33078499
Oh I'm not opening these. I'm going to try sell them at a premium to flip for some profit

>>33078492
if you grab anything cool let us know.

>>33078510
What a huge fag

>>33078510
then tell THEM to show us their pulls, i dunno man.

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>>33078510
>sell them at a premium to flip for some profit

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>>33078324
[email protected]

>>33078524
>>33078523
>>33078511
Ok fine I'll open 1 pack

>>33078324
>>33078487
the one you sent said code already submitted?

TZBB9NMT68GCG

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>>33076870
Opened a Holo darkrai and a reverse serviper from one of the burning shadows pack. Good luck on the code!

>>33078583
Weird, I just opened these packs today, I sent out another one. Might have mixed up what I already sent and didn't send, been doing giveaways all over today.

>>33078601
>tfw can't get the pack because the set isn't out
Feels bad man. Guess I'll just write it down?

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>>33078324
Thanks!

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>>33078324
I'll take a S&M Base please.
[email protected]

>>33078603
if you sent it to the same mail that mail has expired I'm using 10min mail.
try this one,
[email protected]

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>>33078635
>>33078324
Also, I owed you this.

>>33076870
I don't think Metagross is going to be fast enough to take out a Gard GX deck. I saw a Gard deck being played and it can set up ridiculously fast and fairly consistent at that.

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>>33078324
Thanks

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Can't wait for Night Marsh.

>>33078641
>>33078324
Thank you anon! I hope you don't mind if I save this for Lele buying rather than opening it.

>>33078702
Whatever you wanna do, man! I just like doing giveaways. Hope you get your Lele.

>>33078731
I hope it stops going up faster than I can acquire packs!
Good pulls to you, anon.

>>33078756
I buy a lot of physical cards (trying so hard to pull the full-art Team Skull Grunt card), so I have a lot of code cards if you want a couple more.

>>33078699
archeops being banned next season kind of throws a wet blanket on that deck.

So, what all was changed with the ban list update?

>>33078962
In aug forest of giant plants and archeops will be banned in expanded while shiftry will be unbanned due to fogp being removed.

Decidueye had a very short life and now he joins the other aloan starters in the "Why the fuck would I bother evolving this?" section.

>>33078785
For real? Are you giving them out?

>>33079072
Yeah sure, mate. I have tons that I'm not doing anything with, give me another email and I'll give you some more codes. I don't wanna pollute this thread too much more.

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>>33079191
>>33078412
Hey man, if you want to offload codes, send me whatever. Save some for the guy who actually asked too, though.

>>33078785
Oh, I would love a couple if you don't mind.
I agree with the anon above me.
My user name is ZahnwehZombie if you wanna send any over. I so adore giveaways. Never actually gotten anything yet.

>>33079296
Just give me some throwaway email I can send 'em to!

>>33079324
[email protected]

>>33079324
Thank you very much!
I managed to get all of them to work.
I really should buy some physical packs to return the favor, but I don't ever know anyone to play with.
So it always feels rather depressing to buy cards that I can't really do anything with.

>>33079324
[email protected]
Thanks in advance

>>33077845
That guy is not me. Fuck that card.

9PB-QNWG-279-TWP

Did anyone ever go back and grab all the newsletter codes they went good on the 12th?

>>33079550
How rare is the Decidueye GX?
I managed to get one through the code I got from one of the packs.
Have no other owls though.

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holy shit, bulu is such a fucking fun deck

>>33078699

I still don't get why people think this card is good for night march. Lets make my 1 prize attacker give two prizes!

It's a tech for Darkrai, and makes it so you can actually kill Groudon late game in one hit. That sound like a one-off tech to me.

Every deck in expanded has Hex, Silent Lab , or Garb meaning you can't use it as you're main attacker. Plus Laser should make a comeback with Darkrai-GX and possibly reworked Yveltal so Oricorio OHKOs you with a band. And I think Oricorio already killed Night March anyway.

The gameplay for me is getting a little boring, i wish there were more decks with alternative win conditions.

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post what ya get plz

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>>33080514
Nothing great, but still really appreciated!

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Does anyone know what the next structure decks are going to be yet? I pay no attention to news related to this game sorry.

>>33076870
Whats the translation on Garde GX?
230hp and [F] attacks seems ridiculous.
Might make Ultra Road matchups easier

>>33080730
The ability makes you attach a fairy from your hand to any pokemon once per turn, the attack does 30 damage for each energy attached to both active pokemon, and the gx lets you shuffle 10 cards from the discard pile into your deck. Pretty good if you ask me

>>33080752
That's pretty fucked, reckon this will become a highly played deck making metagross more important

>>33080614
Lycanroc Midday Form and Alolan Ninetales

http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0617/Burning-Shadows-Kit.jpg

>>33080802
it already won the japan national in nippon land, keep in mind their standard format is XY-on tho, but yeah, it's projected to be Tier 1/BDIF

>>33080814
Ah, that's disappointing.

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I just learned how to use snipping, but I figured I can show my Decidueye, I don't know what it is worth in terms of trading and... yeah.
Any ideas? I just want to start working on a viable deck so getting anything to work on is nice.
So far, I was thinking of doing something along the lines of Incineroar, but I might go into something else instead.
I'm just rather confused, feel so far behind.

>>33080235
I don't think band works for oricorio

>>33080814
Those seem like a massive downgrade from the guardians rising decks based on the strength of the main Pokémon. Unless they have really good supporters.

>>33081110
What other Ex's and GX's do you have?

>>33081185
I agree, but at least we'll have a decent fighting energy deck for daily challenges in tcgo.

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>>33079856
He's still fairly rare, even with his box coming out. I would trade now, though. See very little hope of it ever coming out of the binder again.

>>33081114
It's second attack works with a band

>>33081237
>That Ninetales
Immune to gx and ex in a rotation with no hex maniac and VS seekers for easy Guzmas and with a choice band can hit 110 against them.

OH BOY I NEED THAT.

Anyone got any PSA recently?

>>33081477
what's the counterplay for him in EX/DX decks, let's have rotation in mind?

>Gardevoir GX
gallade (one of, hard to get on the field, twilight gx can make it come back a second time)
>Volcanion EX
baby volc, but you hit em for weakness, making it easy to OHKO
>Metagross GX
metang one shot you, but needs 3 energies, something to keep in mind is that metang has 90 HP, 10 away from ninetales attack
>Golisopod GX
to be honest, i have no idea what this is gonna look without forest, decidueye could snipe it while stalling you, but multiple deci in a format without fogp sounds unlikely?
>DeciPlume
see above, maybe it can get away with Rare Candies over Forest since you have beacon built in the deck? then you'd get sniped
>EspyGarb
Garb, but you can play around by watching out your items, Garbotoxin Garb is a big issue
>DrampaGarb
see above
>VikaBulu
you get one shot by a regular Vikavolt
>Darkrai
i dont really know what's this gonna look post-rotation, but Ninetales sounds good here, as the most prevalent countermeasure is baby yveltal as it stands, maybe it'll run a baby darkrai which does 80+80 if you used your GX attack for 3 energies?
>ZoroDrampa
well, Zoroark.

Did I forget something? What else could be brought up? Overall, this Ninetales sounds interesting in the appropriate deck. You could always use the regular GX to snipe the non-GX/EX.

>>33081546
It's a great counter to garb because the gx attacker garb relies on to make you use items no does nothing and if he benches a Trubbish just Guzma it out and one hit it before he can evolve it even if he does knock it out it's one prize card.

>>33080235
>oriciorio killed night march
Lol.
Night march is doing great in japan with marshadow.

As someone who has played night match quite a bit and was a huge fan of the maxie engine, the loss of archeops hurts a lot and definitely does hurt your evolution matchups like against greninja specifically but you'll just have to move on. Use machokes, use mines, and just use marshadow.

Night march is going to always be one of those decks that will rise and fall solely based on how people tech against it in tournaments. If no one techs against it, then it will win. If it faces a few rough matchups against toad/trev or ori then it loses.

That being said, I'm waiting to test marshadow toolbox in standard. Seems like it'll be fun.

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it begins

>>33078478

swap Lysandre with Guzma and VS. Seeker with more Supporters

>>33078492

>caring about opening packs of GARDEVOIR THE SET

BS is shit other the absolutely ace trainers and a few key mons like Salazzle, Baby-Alolatails, and THE RETURN OF COIN FLIPPER EXTRAORDINAIRE SUPER SCOOP UP (plus Acerola I guess). Golisiopod is a meme deck that won't stop the Steel EX matchup that going to ramp up thankss to Garde EX (not mention it is getting PROMO'D in the Skull Gift Box) and Fighting_Tech.exe is getting PROMO'D as well.

>>33079879

wait until you get your non GX attacker revenge killing Shaymin in Shining Legends.

>Rally (GC) 30+ If 1 of your Pokémon was Knocked Out by damage from an opponent's attack during their last turn, this attack does 90 more damage.

>>33080814

>FUCK YOU GXs Ninetails in the structure deck

meh I might get it if it has a few Acerola/Guzma cards

>>33081546
>Golisopod GX

some variants are running Breakthrough Zourark for EZ Float Stone switch ins and non GX attacking with a DCE. Non GX Golisiopod from Guardians Rising is also a thing but that is more for countering other GXs.

>>33081546

Zoroark from BT can one shot with Mind Jack with 4 on opponents bench or 3 and a Kukui.

>Drampa/Garb in a format with Po Town instead of Team Magma Base
For what purpose?

Newbie here. I got like 20 Evolutions codes, should I open the packs or can I trade them for other stuff?

>>33081546

Oranguru can OHKO a powered up Ninetales and is easy to splash into any deck.

>>33082915
Problem is they are going to see you powering up that Oranguru from a mile off.

>>33082953

it's not like Oranguru is a bad card to have on the bench. If you run DCE you can drop an extra energy on it when you can just to keep their Ninetales out of play.

Also have a code
>7JC
>7KKL
>D6Q
>BQX

>>33082879
Try yo trade them for Guardian rising packs and then trade them for the stuff you want
To see at which rate you should do that, see the ou7c4st link from the op
I'm also a begginer so I could be wrong

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Can we add each other and have fun or are we supposed to be autists.

>>33083127
Thank you

>>33083127
Why guardian rising packs in particular?

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Who do you think will won worlds??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX2D5DsoH_o&feature=youtu.be

Worls Meta discussion

>>33083595
Because it's Sun and Moon's Roaring Skies, a lot better than Burning Shadows and SM Base.

HEY PTCGO DEVS IF YOU DON'T WANT ME CONCEDING FIRST TURN GIVE ME A REASON TO PLAY AGAINST ANNOYING DECKS THAT DRAW SHIT OUT.

>>33078058
>banning broken decks is bad because it makes less broken decks better

why did nobody tell me landybats is literally free wins on expanded ladder these days?

What card are anon most excited to see leaving Standard come rotation?

>>33085647
Forest of giant faggots.

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>>33085721
that's not leaving standard

it's leaving the game

>>33085725
Even better.

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>>33085731
>tfw you meme is obsolete and future ptcggers won't get it

>>33085725
Not banned in legacy.

>>33086032
>legacy

>>33085647
I'm unironically glad VS Seeker will be gone

>>33086032
you can't play XY set cards in Legacy.

>>33082015
/naJs/

Rough Seas seems a minor gripe but I'll be so glad to know its gone.

>>33082015
it's perfect with vickyvolt too.

>tfw we will never have a meta without a playable shaymin again

>>33085483

Because every scrub here thinks night march is good

>>33086632
When is rough seas leaving? Damn

>>33077083
Waste of time unless you are playing in tournament for packs.

>>33077875
Run Megaray turbo and rofl stomp them until rotation. Shaymin, hoopa is all you need for draw. Main deck Unown as place holders for shaymin on your following turn because they WILL remove your stadium and you want an open space on the bench when you start your turn. Most people dont main Sudowoodo but it wrecks Mray. Hardest match up is zoroark and metagross but not an auto loss \. Never lost to garb, only Metagross gx.

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>>33085647
Lysandre

Guzma at least seems balanced and there won't be 4 VS Seekers in every deck to dig them out to infinity

>>33080235
It's a nightmarch attacker that doesn't die to like 40hp, that's why.

It's nice the be 1prizers and all, but sometimes you need some meat on your bones.

>>33086620
currently.

>>33088264
So whats the meta like in legacy? Only played theme and standard and scared to try out the older formats cos my card pool is shitty.

>>33088205
>Guzma at least seems balanced
It's almost strictly better.

>>33088290
if you have a big thing on a roll, you have to scoot it to the back and put something else out there to beat their thing.

It's an escape rope where you choose their mon in front.

Many times you want your big thing with all its energies to stay put and only theirs to swap.

>>33088296
Yeah basically if you are sweeping switching out your attacker is another combo piece to fit in the equation(zoroark switch in, float stone, switch, retreat cost). It will see play like lysandre did especially due to Lele being a supporter toolbox, and even steal games once in a while but nowhere near the consistency Lysandre+VsSeeker+Shaymin combos that everyone fears and hoping your opponent whiffs.

>>33088319
Since it already has 1 free switch a turn per lion on the field, Solgaleo will love.
Guzma them, if I need to switch, do, if I don't switch back in.

>>33088329
Volcanion, Golisopod, and Zoroark also love Guzma.

Not only that.
From previous thread >>33064733
Guzma can make quad decks see more play. Seems like meta is going to be "switching in-out" instead of turbo item deck burning.

So whats everyone going to play after rotation? (September 1st I believe)
Im thinking Metagross GX, or Volcanion. With Hex Maniac rotating you no longer auto lose if they chain vs seeker > hex maniac. Garbotoxin is annoying but field blower lets the deck actually play through it.

>Darkrai GX has a possible turn 2 120 dark pulse if they go first (4 darkrai GX on with their effectfor 1 energy, 2 as on their active fpr 6 total
>Golisopod-GX can do 120 for 1 grass which is amazing
>Noivern GX is another deck that punishes item users.

So far Volcanion seems the safest choice.

>>33088389
Gardevoir GX looks to be BDIF after rotation.

>>33088389
Golio after rotation is in an awkward spot. No fogp means you're doing 120 really only on turn 2 regulalry which isn't amazing. Losing eeveelutions is also a big hit.

Novern loses DD which is a HUGE loss.

That being said, probably marshadow toolbox or ninetales.

>>33088523
>Novern loses DD which is a HUGE loss.
I expect them to reprint it before too long. Gonna be buying a few up in expectation of such, wish me luck.

>>33088526
I expect it but it's not guaranteed, you might end up having to wait 6 months or so which means the time you'll be able to use it is not that great.

I honestly expect marshadow toolbox to become great and it only needs like just one single good card to be BDIF. It has a lot of good pokemon but it needs either a way to instantly throw them in the discard or just a card with a broken attack that basically is a win condition.

>>33088536
>but it needs either a way to instantly throw them in the discard or just a card with a broken attack that basically is a win condition.
Why not just use those cards, then? I expect it to be more of an early game attack tech against Dramps, Zoros, and Darkrais.

>>33088542
Flexibility, good typing, can use strong energies, can use focus sash in expanded, can use regirock, etc etc etc

It's one of those cards that needs just one card to become great. It has a ton of support but needs one more push like Korina reprint to become ridiculous.

>>33076870

I have 2 tapu lele but not for trade, fuck this shitty game, I want trade one or 2

>>33088760
Keep both, trust me.

It's 3 and 4 that it might be reasonable to trade one.

Out of curiousity how many packs have you opened to get those?

>>33088542
Easy. Marshadow acts like having a second copy if one gets discarded or killed. Also change of type.

>>33088793

probably 20 in total I never cared about guardian packs, just opened what I got from the versus

>>33088389
Gardevoir GX, most likely. I'll probably still use my rogue Primarina GX as well.

>>33088264
It will be banned in Legacy even if Legacy includes XY sets.

The entire point of the Legacy format was separating Shiftry NXD and FOGP. Shiftry is legal again.

>>33089245
Shiftry NXD isn't a grass type. How do they relate?

If anything the Steam Siege one seems like it would be the bigger threat. FoGP it to full, then Wicked Wind so they don't get to use it.

>>33089280
but seedot and nuzleaf are grass types, which is what matters for fogp to work

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>>33089341
But NXD Nuzleaf is dark too.

>>33088389
Ninetails with baby Ninetales for this GX heavy format with no hex maniac to cause non stop suffering.

>>33089366
you don't need to evolve a pokemon from its pre evolution from the same set, you know.

Does the card game have an app like ygopro? I'd like to try the pokemon tcg since links is fucking over yugioh.

>>33089671
You mean the Trading Card Game Online?

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>when your streak hits double digits

anybody got spare espeon-gx they dont need?

>>33077388
>70HP 2 energies
>stage 2
>stage 1 coinflip
>stage 2 3 energies
>no longer with vs seeker
Not even houndoom alone survives this meta.

>>33078058
lol

>tfw your FOGP mega beedrill/venusaur SHL deck is impossible now

Why do you do this to me TCPI? Finally we get a way to make Mega Beedrill good and they smother it in the cradle

>>33090606
>promos ever made to be good
Your loss

>>33077304

>hating on based dicktree

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Just got back from a pre-release event at my local shop. A single 10 year old pulled Full Art Guzma, FA Sophocles and FA Acerola in his packs. He even pulled out a GX, though I didn't see which.

I pulled a secret dark energy

Really want to get my hands on MY BOY GUZMA but couldn't even get a fucking common in my packs.

This set has some awesome supporters and with Lysander on the way out, Guzma is making a great First Impression.

Will any of you be investing in physical cards this set?

>>33088289
It's basically a select few decks topping the meta, TDK, Weavile Eggs, Fluffychomp, with VirGenCel being almost unquestioned BDIF. I've had some fun throwing around a Dialga Palkia Legend deck on the ladder, but only really works out against other non-meta decks.

>buy 3 Primal Clash boosters
> all 3 had an ultra rare in each (Full art Archie, Full art Primal Kyogre, and Camurpt EX)

I just wish I had this much luck opening those shitty sun and moon Guardians Rising boosters. Can't even get a single good rare in those fuckers.

>>33088389
Had good luck with Metagross GX so far, probably going to stick it out, maybe throw in a baby Ninetales to wall. Might try out Chamander GEN with Po Town and Shining Celebi, can't see it being a super reliable deck but could be fun regardless. And I really want Necrozma to be viable, maybe in combination with Metagross, but otherwise I can't see it working without some more reliable Psychic acceleration. Maybe we'll get something like Gardevoir NXD in a future set.

>>33090122
Is it free?

>>33092308
I got two EXs, and they're both for Pokemon I don't use.
I am so tired of using the same starter deck, but I am just barely making enough to get by for the good ones.
Plus, I am still having a hard time deciding on a good deck, I almost think I should just make my own with how things are going.
Wish I could get a mentor to teach me a thing or two.
I keep wanting to spend money on good cards, like... actually buy some so I can get something that I would be proud of, but it is still a very difficult thing for me.
I need friends.

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>in one expansion, PCL effortlessly destroyed Plumelock, Megaray and brainless Turbo cancer
>people will still bitch that they don't know how to design a game

remember when people believed this meme? lmao.

>>33093050
Garb is dead soon as well Ninetales GX with baby counters it pretty well and so does Gard by setting up ridiculously fast and killing their main GX cards without using too many items.

I've never played cardboard but am considering going to a pre-release in the morning. Have played online since Phantom Forces and collected just for binders, so I have plenty of energy and markers. Can anon explain what I need to bring apart from entrance fee? What does that get you? Can you buy additional packs? How does the game work with less than 60 cards? Can I play a game and bail (or even just pay the thirty get shit and leave?)

>>33092987
Yeah you can buy and earn packs ingame and if you buy physical packs you get codes to get the same pack ingame.

When i complete the 7 or whatever duels with the basic theme decks and i acquire the deck does that mean i acquired every card contained in it individually or did i just get it for use online?

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Enjoy some theme decks

>>33094195
Thank you so much, I took bottom middle, I owe you a lot.

>>33094195
Got the Solgaleo one
thank you very much

>>33094263
Huh. mine was Lunala, so were they all basically Sogaleo and Lunala ones?
Not complaining, I love Lunala mostly for Mimikyu and the ghosties.
I'm hoping that I'll have fun with this deck compared to the two starter ones.

>>33094349
HIdden moon is the best one for theme.Grind up for your standard deck

>>33092051
These prerelease boxes must be super stacked, this one guy got two rainbows, a full art Kiawe, and a full art Golisopod in his kit.

>>33094195
Seem to all be claimed now.

>>33094402
It was really funny because that kid got those insane pulls and then another little kid pulled FA Plumeria. All the people in their 20s were sitting together wondering how the fuck this happened.

I'll be getting one more box next week and a booster box.

>(Tentatively updated, will need updating again come rotation)
>Solgaleo upgrades into something cheap and decent ( >>32879775 (Dead) ) but is worse on it's own.
>http://pkmncards.com/advanced/
OP already has too many words and you put this crap there

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What does it mean when the number is higher than the set number?
Is this a good pull, is it special?

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>>33095386
Got this one right after

>>33095386
It's a secret card. But no one really cares for evolutions so, it's not that great.

>tfw they'll never make meme formats for tcgo

4 prize little cup is the most enjoyable format honestly.

>Watching all of these Prerelease pack openings
>Haven't seen MY card yet

Sweating that they didn't make enough of them and I have to fork over extreme cash just to buy one

I can't help but feel sad when I see all this prerelease stuff. I would've loved to have gone to one. My locals didn't do one, despite them being a registered league. Last time I went no one was playing Pokemon, only yu gi oh and magic.

>>33095925
I wish they'd create an actual Unlimited format, with cards from all eras.

Brock's Ninetales and Fossil Ditto would end up having their own thread on the "known bugs" board.

But really, even RS-on would be great.

>>33097047
Shame that TCGO's entire existence is to promote the physical product, so there's virtually no chance of them ever including cards from older sets. I'd love to see them include all the old cards and do a regular rotation of the different standards through the years, go through them sequentially every few weeks or whatever. Rumors of there being a new TCG game for mobiles in production, maybe they'll include older cards with that.

>>33097144
Maybe if they try to follow Yugioh Duel Links route... But then, I guess ygo never really stops selling any sets, does it?

I can't imagine any official games including WotC era cards by this point, anyway.

My hopes are for TCGone getting an actual client and implementing all the older sets. Unlikely, but still possible.

>>33097272
Doesn't TTS have a mod with all the sets?

>>33097326
TTS doesn't have enforced rules, does it? Because really, that's really important when you play with strangers online.

>>33097144
They included DP machamp and other old card once.

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>>33097420
>tts with strangers

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How's this look for a Greninja deck post-rotation?

>>33097420
As far as I know, it doesn't, and I agree I'd prefer an enforced and dedicated client. I always thought TPCi would do what Konami did with Yugioh and make semiregular console/handheld games. I enjoyed the old GB game, even if the AI was simple and thoroughly exploitable.

>>33097531
I don't think it needs the Brooklet Hill.

tfw you run into a 90iq player while you're doing evolution challenges and he autopilots his toad/bats against your blatant evolution deck making the game take 10x longer than it needs to

I even try to pick the worst shitmons I possibly can to make it as obvious as possible that they should just pass turn and let me finish my challenge

>>33097610
Sometimes I run into these decks but they always act as if they're actually trying to win so fuck em.

>>33097545
What'd you recommend instead? Only decent replacement I can think is Nest Ball, which I might actually do since adding Grimer.

>>33097610
Even worse when they take as long as possible with every single turn just dragging the game out needlessly.

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>Ocean of Violent Tides
>Each player's [Water] Pokémon can evolve during his or her first turn or the turn he or she plays those Pokémon. Also, Water-type Pokémon do 30 more damage (after applying weaknesses and resistances).

Did I saved Water-type from tier 2?

>>33097834
I have no idea if thats a stadium, supporter or ability and its stupid either way

Got me a rainbow rare Darkrai GX, Marshadow GX, and a Noivern GX at my Prerelease event today. Went 3 and 0 for the tournament, organizer didn't give out prizes though. v.v

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>>33097834
It's almost as if evolution ramp is a quick and easy way to make anything tier 1.

>>33097461
>>33097144
There's a few pre-HGSS cards on PTCGO -- a lot of them aren't available because they were only used during development. The most notable one I can think of is Cynthia's Feelings

>>33097834
Ocean of Giant Waters, PLUS an additional 30 damage,

>>33097864
Most pre-releases don't have prizes.
My understanding is that organisers are supplied with a number of extra booster packs equal to three per player, with the "recommendation" that a flat three are given out to every player, since it's so easy to cheat in booster drafts that they don't want to reward it, but many organisers choose to either re-distribute them so winning players get more, or just keep the boosters so they can sell them at launch day.

>>33097834
Don't be stupid, this is water we're talking about. It needs to be:
>Each player's [Water] Pokémon can evolve during his or her first turn or the turn he or she plays that Pokémon. >Each Pokémon that has any [Water] Energy attached to it (both yours and your opponent's) has no Retreat Cost.
>Once during each player's turn, that player may heal 30 damage from each of his or her Water Pokémon.
>Each Water Pokémon (both yours and your opponent's) can't be affected by any Special Conditions. (Remove any Special Conditions affecting those Pokémon.)
>The attacks of each Water Pokémon in play (both yours and your opponent's) do 20 more damage to the Defending Pokémon-EX (before applying Weakness and Resistance).

All at the same time. Also bring back Rain Dance Blastoise as a basic.

>>33098733
huh. MtG prereleases aren't that cancer I wonder why pokemon got that way.

What are the best theme deck to play against people in tournaments? I remember some time ago, like half a year the best were the free starters. Recently I saw a lot of people playing S&M starters, are they somehow better?

>>33098943
can you not read OP?

>>33097531

Needs Wally.

I'm not sure how much people will play Giratina Promo so Muk might not be worth the slots.

>>33099311
If I'm a volcanion player and there might be a Greninja at my locals, is Girapromo worth a slot?

>>33099324
Its a tough match up regardless but the giratina would help

>>33098943
HIdden Moon. All theme decks run 20 energy so they will lose to themselves most often.

>>33098413
Yeah some people can actually view those DP era cards and tag them for wants/review but its a glitch.

>>33099338
>Its a tough match up regardless but the giratina would help
Thanks, I've been wondering what to replace my Shaymin with.
I tried to hybridize turboVolc with nuVolc.
Didn't work so well.

>>33099324
>>33099344
I'll be honest, absolutely not.

Greninja used to be a hard matchup, but nowadays in standard it's almost an auto loss unless you get really luck with steam ups. With Choice Band now they can moonlight for 110 which with weakness is an OHKO on literally your whole deck, and greninja run like 3-4 CBs on their list meaning it's likely they'll get it off.

The only way you win the greninja matchup is if they get greninja hand(tm) or get to greedy and don't setup a board with enough greninjas to stream attackers. Gira promo does nothing, they hardly ever need the 60 dmg snipes if they have the CB.

>>33099370
Thanks bruv.
Lucky the Greninja guy moved to MtG til BUS comes out.

>>33094138
anyone help me out?

>>33094138
>>33099529
Yes, when you complete the 7/7 wins with a deck then you've unlocked every card for that deck.

You can use a deck anytime online, but it's not recommended until you unlock every card.

>>33099533
yeah that much i understand what i want to know is if i can use the cards contained in the deck later to make other decks for example

>>33099529
So the free theme decks come incomplete missing 7 cards. You get 1 card for that theme deck for each win. Once you complete it you can use that deck for theme deck tournaments/VS mode.

Its been years since i had incomplete theme decks however so I might be missing a few details. So for sure unlock those cards in trainer challenge before PVP.

>>33099547
Yes, once you unlock a card it can be used in any deck.

I wouldn't recommend building a deck until you make a meta deck or tier 3 deck however as it's expected in standard to have a deck that can compete with standard decks. Matchmaking doesn't take into account how shit your deck is or how many shitty cards there is, just a hidden elo system. Best stick to theme until you build a good deck like greninja.

>>33099547
Yes they will be trade locked, but you can use the staple supporters, or energies if you wanted too for any deck or format. Of course you should unlock everything 7/7 as they take out a few good trainer cards like supporters/items which is what you want honestl starting out..

>>33099547
Also dont go into standard blindly. You will get curbstomped and then just want to quit the game. Take the long road, grind theme tournaments/vs mode for tokens > tickets>packs then make a deck. have some self restraint and do not open packs. if you have tokens you can buy pikachu packs in the shop for 55 tokens. these are tradeable and you can get most common/uncommons(even foils sometimes) with 1 pikachu pack. Great way to scoop up N's, sycamore, ultraball without paying a pack. Use this method if you cannot win theme tournaments. Packs are faster for trading but you have that pikachu pack option as well. 1 pikachu pack can get 2-4 commons/uncommons if you make a public offer but it takes a while. if you choose pick 1 card thats the fastest. leave those trades up whenever you dont play and it will pay off

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>>33099559
>, just a hidden elo system
>what is an elo system anyway
>look it up
Huh.

Alright, sites like sixprizes has articles locked behind paywalls, anybody have archives for them? Want to see what the big deal is.

>call lgs
>ask if registration for the prerelease is at 11 or 12
>"i dont know"
>"could you find out?"
>"i can when X gets in"
>"do you know when he's going to get in?"
>"i have no idea"
>"well should i call back in a half hour?"
>"no he probably wont be in by then. I'd say call back at 11"

fuck this store, no idea why I support them when they piss me off so often. too bad it's the only store nearby that does prereleases

ty to the autist who recommended tool drop in expanded with new garb, shit's hilarious.

I am trying to choose between two decks.

* bugcatcher: fomantis + wimpod. Grab bag of every evolution.
This would basically just be an improvement of the lurantis+golisopod deck before burning shadows by giving the deck another attacker. Sunny day is a hell of an ability, and having more attackers helps take advantage of it. The mono fire weakness rubs my autism unfortunately.

* InFiNiTe the EdGeHoG: Zoroark break + golisopod GX. Super energy efficient, amazing switching options, pressure every turn of the game. Edgy as fuck aesthetic. The damage output doesn't really scale though, and I would be playing three different energies. Testing hasn't yet confirmed that the deck will be consistent.

>>33100701
golisopod without fogp will be really meh. Most of the appeal for me was the idea of SSU and re evolve, re attach on the same turn

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>all four stage 1s are prized

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>tfw I can't wait to pull nothing

>>33099668
I did Pokebeach for a three month period. They're not worth the money in the slightest. There is nothing there that you can't find elsewhere with a good nose and a bit of cop-on. Unless you are time short and cash rich, do not bother.

That said, if you are actually a somewhat decent player, and can consistently do well in prizes for Pokebeach's monthly tournament. That makes it worth getting. And then the articles are just a nice bonus.

2KT-JZWP-GWQ-9HP

here ya go fags

>>33100701
Volcanion can play with 2 pokemon benched minimum so zoroark is doing small damage. and they could possibly 1 shot golisopod if they bench more volcanion ex with energy in hand. i had the same idea but couldnt beat volcanion.

>>33101889
Thanks.

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>go judge at pre-release
>finish event so finally get my pre-release box I bought
>don't get much from my initial other than FA necro which I traded for a marshadow plus some cash
>go home and open the dozen packs given for judging
>get Rainbow rare darkrai, ho-oh, and FA guza

Pretty good.

>>33088389
I'll still be running Ultra Road

>>33099370
>>33099376

Best way to beat Greninja with Volc is disruption cards. The deck is inherently clunky. Delinquent is the best shot you have against them, just don't expect an easy win.

Every time I Delinquent someone to 0 they top deck sycamore. Every time.

>>33105229
Danke bruv.
Practicing my Volc, gotta get ready for Kiawe and Guzma.

>>33093243
Thank you daddy darkrai.

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>open prerelease box
>get alolan mux, but no alolan grimer
>pull nothing else
>go 0-3
>get 3 packs
>get Marshadow
>trade that fucker away
>do pack drafts
>out of the 5 packs I open, I still get nothing
>go 3-1 losing only to the judge
>get 1st place prize of 6 packs, because judge can't win the packs
>pull jack shit AGAIN

wew

>>33106381
At least you got codes.
I know a guy who buys bulk at a nickel apiece but I don't think those guys are common.

Is Necrozma super common or something? Five or six people at my pre-release today (myself included) pulled it. Didn't pull anything else though...

>>33106654
Probably. A lot of people seemed to have pulled some variant of the card.

>>33106654
I kept seeing and hearing Zard and Marshadow at my Pre. I think I only saw 2 Necros.

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Today was my first pre-release/official play.

>got Seviper pre-deck
>open the packs
>literally nothing
>not even a trainer I can use (got the water girl, kiawe, but my deck was pyschic-grass)
>80% of the other player (we were 48) got fucking bulu-gx, darkrai, ho-oh, tapu fini
>still made my way to the top 13
>got another 5 packs as a gift
>one Salazzle GX

I think it was a good start...

>>33095002
the advanced search thing is nice.
It's the closest thing PTCG has to MTG Gatherer.

>tfw couldn't get to prerelease because car broke down

will have to shill out money to get my grubby hands on those stupid prerelease promos

why live? /blog

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>>33076870

Rate my pull

>>33107180
could have been a dce/10

>>33107180
Rare/10

Has anyone ever proposed playing but ignoring resistances? Would it really effect the game?

>>33107489
I usually play without weakness and resistance IRL, since I have only one friend to play and we'd have to refrain ourselves from choosing certain types otherwise.

While weakness is a safety net for balancing issues, resistance became a lot less relevant over the years. I don't see why anyone would bother to ignore only that. Sure, it can avoid a KO, but it's not as game changing as weakness.

>>33107568
I should have typed both, I meant to ignore both. I have only one opponent and we have only precons, so the whole mechanic sucks for me

>>33107568
it can prevent you getting whittled down by a tiny thing. I've used resistance for that before. Just stonewalling them while you get something set up.

>>33107662
Yes, it's not completaly useless, but it's too situational and far from being as meta defining as weakness is.

>>33107623
In that case, I think we are indeed in the same boat. Back when I played in a league (in the Neo genesis days...) I'd only play with weakness and resistance there.

Among friends, you usually know your opponent's deck and using weakness as an advantage becomes a cheap strategy. Ignoring it makes the game more interesting.

Weakness is kind of a lazy mechanic. It is there just to make sure that no single deck will be the best one. I think we just accept it as it is because the video games always had that, it feels natural. But it really hurts casual play since it can turn some matches into an auto loss.

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Went 3-0 in prerelease. Pulled Ho-oh GX and Kiawe. Managed to pull off the turn one combo twice. Vileplume ability is annoying.
Got nothing in prize packs. Wicke is pretty though.
Set isn't the best overall.

>>33107961
>Set isn't the best overall
It's not GRI but it's up there.

>>33107981
Agreed. It's given us one really good main attacker Pokémon and a few tech attackers as well as a lot of usable trainers. I'd say it's more worth buying into than SUM

>>33108036
Two good main attackers, Ho-Oh works well as that in Volcanion.

>>33107961
>Set isn't the best overall.
Isn't the best, but has more useful pokemons to create new teches and strong decks around it, unlike Guardians Rising. The number of mandatory trainers is the same, though.

>>33107794
It does, however, force a varied meta.

While MtG can have a situation where literally every deck in its 2016 world tournament is playing some combination of Bant Collected Company and/or Emrakul, pokemon will, through inclusion of weaknesses no matter how badly designed a card or combination of cards may be, always have multiple decks played: the broken deck, and then anything it's weak to.

Dang, I seem to have lost my meme for this. It was the scene in Aladdin where Abu starts threatening guards with a sword, GWU cards shopped into his hand with the macros "Oh no! He's playing Bant!" | "You idiots! We're all playing Bant!"
Just imagine it I guess.

Is there any reliable website i can go to buy Codes?

>>33108504
Ebay.

>>33108504
I've heard collector's cache is good for mtg, and I now they sell code cards too. so.. maybe there?

Went 2-1 at my pre-release. I had never been to one. I really enjoyed the crowd as the ages were incredibly diverse and there were even a bunch of instances of parents being enthusiastic, playing and encouraging their kids. I was really happy to see that. Sure as shit my parents never wanted to even try.

Pulled garbage except for a Fini. She's alright. Her get out of jail free GX move should be good for Metagross.

>>33107794
A friend stated that at some point in the TCGs life weakness was just something like +30. I think that's far more fair

>>33108757
some weaknesses were that, but they were alongside normal x2 weakness if memory serves.

>>33108757
there have been x2 weaknesses since base, i think during adv era some cards had +30 weakness though.

they need to stop printing x2 weaknesses honestly, it makes the game so tedious and random, too many auto loss/win matchups right now.

>>33107961

new N, god no..

>>33108844
It's garbage, no one will play it

>>33108857
It's garbage now but it might see use after N rotates next year assuming we get no other hand disruption card within the next year.

It's not good but disrupting someone's hand is pretty valuable.

>>33108857
It's not when Oranguru is still a thing.

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Holy shit, man. Look at that fucking ASS.

I want my horn in that

>>33108828
Is there any possibilty of that actually happening? Because I just find it annoying that some match ups aren't dependent on skill or deck construction just type. I mean I get the boost being a mechanic of the actual game but still the outcome of a game should only very slightly on weakness.

I think it would be better if pokemon had several weakness types and it was only +30. Then there would be a wide range of benefits and downfalls to having certain pokemon in your deck.

Has anyone from the dev team spoken about the weakness mechanic as of recently?

>>33086032
Why would it be banned in legacy. Legacy has broken time space that allows any pokemon to evolve first turn

>>33109356
Legacy goes from HGSS to Legendary Treasures. Broken Time-Space is from Platinum.

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>>33109298

>>33107568
Resistance is sort of meaningless with all the big hitters.

I'd love to see a meta where resistance halves damage like in the games

>>33109298
For a second I thought you were talking about the pokémon's skull and was confused for various reasons.

>>33109609
So thicc-skulled

>>33108757
>>33108828
This was during the Diamond & Pearl era, weaknesses were variable, +20/+30 and I agree it was a lot fairer.

The Pokemon with x2 weakness were Lv. X's, who were "stronger" anyway.

the ADV era had Pokemon with two weaknesses or two resistances, which was a lot more fun imo

>>33109342
I don't know about any official statement but, judging how the game has been evolving in the last couple of years, it's unlikely to ever change again.

Recent Pokémon are more powerful. Not only overall, powercreep is there, but we have cards that reach OHKOs on Pokémon with 250HP. This faster pace is only possible because cards have being printed with less restrictions. Worst case scenario, weakness is there to save the meta. (and when that fails, we get stuff like Promo Giratina and Karen...)

In its current state, the game would become unplayable competitively without weakness. It would converge into what MtG is, as the other anon said.

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>tfw opened over 500 roaring skies (I spent points on it so calm your autism)
>no shaymins
>5-6 GR packs
>2 tapu lele

This is bullshit.

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i really wanna go to a pre-release but last time i tried goin to the GR pre-release it was filled with fuckin kids. guess it isnt too popular with autistic college around here

>>33110118
Hey you just got the most expensive parts of most decks.

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>A new “Premium Trainer’s XY Collection” will be released in America and Europe on November 17th!
>This collection is being touted as the largest Pokemon TCG product ever assembled!
Each collection will come with the 14 full art promo cards, including Shaymin-EX, Yveltal-EX, Aegislash-EX, Jirachi, and N. This means it will likely contain all the unreleased full art promo cards from Japan’s The Best of XY as well as the unreleased Japanese full art promo Jirachi.
I'm gonna have a hard time resisting buying this, maybe even trying to get a playset of those Ns.

>>33110534
I'm hyped for this, I've been waiting for that full art N for months

It's pretty likely that $80 is justified, since I bet those cards combined will sell for close to that (or more) anyway

>>33110610
Not to mention the code card that'll probably get $10+ alone. I'm glad they went this route instead of just doing another round of boosters like Japan did, keep the chase cards relatively cheap and accessible since most of them are rotating anyway. Last I checked the Shaymin was fetching $80 at least by itself.

>>33110650
Shaymin's dropped a lot in price actually
The first hit was when Roaring Skies got a second print run, which brought it down to $60
Then, Tapu Lele replacing it in many decks brought it down to $25FA/$18RA

>>33110686
Should've specified I meant the alternate full art from Best of XY. I know that the Roaring Skies prints have dropped in price massively, I've seen full arts selling for under $20, and after rotation and this promo box I expect it'll drop even further.

>>33110686

I'm kind of shocked that the rotation announcement hasn't hurt the prices even more.

>>33109379
Oh okay. I didn't know. My bad thanks dude

Are there any cards that function similarly to Team Magma's Camerupt and Blacksmith? I wanna try out something other than a fire deck.

>>33111111
fucking wasted

>>33111111
stop bullying ridaz

>>33110462

I'm just salty that I was unable to open even a single shaymin despite opening shitload of boosters for two years.

>>33110118
>tfw opened over 500 roaring skies (I spent points on it so calm your autism)
>no shaymins

I raged. That's so fucking unfair.

>>33110534
The Best Of XY, finally, huh? That's nice and all, but those packs are gonna be expensive as fuck. If they are gonna do it just like Japanese pack, with 15 cards and 5/6 fucking star per pack, I don't wanna know how much they are going to cost.
I got a box on eBay for 42 bucks and got Delinquent full art. Also buy Shauna FA and got them both in my deck. Really pretty cards.

Are we getting codes for this? Having all those full arts Online would be amazing.

>>33111920
They're not doing it like Japan. We're not getting it as a set of boosters, we're just getting the $80 box that includes all the FAs, and presumably the code it includes will net you all of those online too, just like the Mega Powers box.

>>33111920
>>33111948
Which makes sense considering that each of those cards individually would go for 10 dollars or something plus the code card itself.

I'm probably gonna get a box and then probably look into buying another hex, delinquent, N, and possibly a few others for the binder.

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>>33111948
So, that's... that's gonna be better?

>>33111977
I mean yeah, we're getting all the noteworthy cards in a guaranteed collection, instead of spending probably twice that to get all of them buying second hand or even more through buying boosters. It's a set aimed at collectors, the main draw being primarily alternate art reprints and collectors are going to be grateful to not have to spend as much getting them.

So what are everyone's Darkrai post-rotation deck ideas? Here's my shit list, meme on my list and give input on improvements
4x Darkrai EX
3x Darkrai GX
3x Tapu Leler
2x Yveltal STS
1x Marshadow GX
1x Oranguru
3x Altar of the Moon
2x Guzma
4x Sycamore
3x N
1x Sophocles
1x Acerola
1x Fan Club
3x Choice Band
2x EXP Share
2x Field Blower
1x Super Rod
4x Max Elixir
4x Ultra Ball
14x Dark Energy

>>33111400
10 pikachu packs from the shop = 1 Guardians Rising booster on the public. You fucked up because the guaranteed route was the best rather than using tokens for shitty untradeable cards and horrendous pull rates. Could have easily traded Guardians Rising for Shaymin since its value tanked due to Roaring Skies rotating.

>>33111400
Opening trade able boosters is literally the worst thing you can do, next to using tokens for locked single boosters with their shitty pull rates.

>>33111870
Not really, that is actually very typical from shop boosters. Many people report on the obscene ratios for locked shop packs and it was never fixed.

>>33112161
>next to using tokens for locked single boosters with their shitty pull rates
What else are you supposed to do with tokens?

>>33112200
Gameplay items that are considerably rare (vanity mostly), black star promos(jirachi, regirock) just in case they become playable/are playable, and pikachu avatar packs because they trade into real tradeable packs on public. 10 pikachu packs for 1 guardians rising makes free to play ridiculously trivial to build your collection.

Best thing to do with tokens? Making public offers to actually have a playable deck with all the staples. You can pick stuff up for a couple packs less, but it can take a few days. That versus NEVER having the card because you tried to pull a staple from a locked pack. Not trying to be at the mercy of RNG then complaining the game is not fair when you misuse all your resources.

I mean if you open for fun, sure go ahead. But if you are trying to build a deck, there is a way to do it from scratch without even touching tournaments for pack winnings.

Completely new player here
What are the staples i should look into getting?

>>33112337
Sycamore, N, Guzma, Ultra Ball, Delinquent, Brigette, Tapu Lele GX

For standard for right now that will soon rotate:
Lysander, VS Seeker

PS: Look at youtubers like tablemon, teamfishknuckles, omnipoke or possibly thechaosgym to give you an idea of how to get started and what decks are good.

>>33112337
Sycamore
N
Guzma
Ultra Ball
Tapu Lele
Choice Band
Field Blower
Pokemon Fan Club/Bridgette

So does Tapu Koko have any hope post rotation or with the new expansion?

>>33112591
Yes, raikou from shining legends makes it so energy disruption means nothing against the deck and it also opens a much less item dependent route for the deck.

The issue is that the new raikou has 2 retreat and the deck is still heavily ability reliant. I can still see the deck being decently good but it's probably a tier 2 deck.

>>33112591
acerola helps it quite a bit

>>33112278
>pikachu avatar packs
Heck are these? Can't find them in the store,

>>33113792
Nevermind, found them, thought they were boosters.

>>33111111
>people were saying shit about my 33m get