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Make it's Mega OU without making it a Mega Charizard clone.

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Make it's Mega OU without making it a Mega Charizard clone.
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>>33042547
no
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>>33042547
blaziken clone with speed boost
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Why don't they give it Spark or Thunderbolt or some special electric move by now? That alone would do it wonders.
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>>33042547

You'd have to remove its fire typing
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HP: 78
Atk: 84 > 94 cuz gamefreak logic
Def: 78 > 108
Sp.A: 109 > 129
Sp.D: 85 > 105
Speed: 100 > 120

Fire/Ground

New Moves: Earth Power, Scald.

Ability: Mold Breaker

Thoughts?
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>>33042609
>Greninja used Water Shuriken!
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>>33042547
Fire/Ground
Primordial Sea
78/64/78/74/85/255

Oops did you say OU? I heard PU
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>>33042547
130hp
140 sp. atk
90 in both defences

ability; sheer force
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>>33042609
>Scald
>on a pure Fire type
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>>33042612
You can use more than one Pokémon, you know that?
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Give it Earth Power

+Ground type
Mold Breaker (to hit stuff like Heatran with Fire moves or Rotom with Earth Power)

+15 Atk
+65 SpAtk
+20 Spd

Alternatively, give it Arena Trap.
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>>33042618
Is a fucking volcano. And Emboar learn scald.
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>>33042547
it can be a charizard clone even with a mega retard
it has no movepool

only shit it would do well wud be a no guard inferno spammer meme, still not ou because can't boost special attack anyway

it's a bipedal flareon or less retarded heatmor as you prefer

it's whole point is being sexualized
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>>33042591
fpbp
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>>33042547
>without making it a Mega Charizard clone
B-But it is IMPOSSIBLE!!!

I would give to its Mega the same stats as Mega Charizard Y but I would swap some of its stats:

Mega Typhlosion
Type: Fire
Ability: Mold Breaker
78 - 78 (+0)
84 - 84 (+0)
78 - 78 (+0)
109 - 159 (+50)
85 - 115 (+30)
100 - 120 (+20)
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>>33042625
>You're trapped and cannot switch
>Gothita used hidden power! It's super effective
>Typhlosion fainted
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>>33042784
Isn't shadow tag banned?
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>>33042784
Being trapped fucks over a ton of Pokemon, stop with this 4x weakness=shit meme. Garchomp isn't shit, salamence isn't shit, ferrothorn isn't shit
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Adaptability
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Duel typing with ground or dark and give it more of that second typings moves in the pool.
Offensive special stabs on those typings would make it a worthy baton pass switch in with iether a speed or spa boost.
Really a second type stab and a general stat boost is all that keeps him from being a decent sweeper so.. mega and not a clone right there
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>>33042547
Fire/Ground
+10 Speed
+31 SpAtk
Learns Earth Power and Power Gem
Gets Adaptability
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>>33042547
Fire/Electric
With Guts
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>>33042547
I'm sick of mega with overpowered defensive typings. Make him a Fire/Rock glass cannon.
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>>33043223
>him
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>>33042547
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>>33043243
Go fuck yourself, faggot.
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>>33043205
>>33043324
>Electric
But why
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>>33043333
Why so mad?
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>>33043346
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_thunderstorm
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>>33043376
Oooh, I see now, thanks
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New Ablility: Vitality

Moves used by this Pokémon always act as if they were used at full HP.

Buff its Defenses like a motherfucker.
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would it be better to make it more of a fast late game sweeper? I wish it had the movepool for Protean, it would easily be OU.
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>>33042609
Give it nasty plot or calm mind
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Ability: making contact with an opponent automatically burns it. While on the field, pokemon take 1/6th instead of 1/8th damage from the burn status effect each turn.

Def +15
Sp atk +20
Spdef +40
Spd +25

Ability works both ways for contact. Stat spread isnt polarizing but still favors spdef. Def isnt as necessary due to burn.
You can run 1 contact move to trigger ability ( not so much for damage) or rely on them making contact or your special moves getting the burn chance to kick in.

Inspired by pokedex entry.
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>>33043205
>guts on a mega pokemon that can't hold a toxic orb
>wanting to take status damage on a pokemon that spams eruption
???
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>>33042635
Emboar learns Scald as a reference to Zhu Bajie. Volcanoes don't spew water. It's not a geyser.

>>33042547
Fire/Ground
78 / 134 (+50) / 78 / 134 (+25) / 100 (+15) / 110 (+10)
Ability: Regenerator

Neutral to SR, regenerates for high damage eruptions, can EQ effectively instead of resorting to Earth Power meme.
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>>33043949
Oh, and regenerator is thematic because it's a fucking badger.
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>>33043949
Thermal waters.
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>>33043949
>liquid fire
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+100 Sp Atk
Contrary
Overheat
Quiver Dance
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>>33044017
>molten rock = liquid fire
>liquid fire = water
/vp/ is actually this dumb
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>>33044022
>Contrary
>Quiver Dance

nigger u wot?
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>>33044047
>not expecting the board that brought you liquid electricity to be this dumb
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>>33043949
>Volcanoes don't spew water. It's not a geyser.
Volcanos magma help to produce geysers and make more sense than a cat shooting ice beams from it's mouth.
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>>33044113
The cat isn't a fire creature. Normal types learn lots of attacks because they don't specialize in an element. There are much more volcanic Pokemon like Camerupt, Torkoal and Heatran, and if they don't learn water attacks neither does Typhlosion.
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>>33043949
>Volcanoes don't spew water
They do actually. Water vapour, at least.
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>>33044178
Just like Garchomp, Goodra and Hydreigon doesn't learn Dragon Dance. And with the cat I was referring to Absol (or whatever the fuck it is) who learns flamethrower too.
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>>33042547
HP 78
Atk 94
Def 108
SpA 139
SpD 95
Spe 120
Ability: No Guard

Would be OU for the Inferno Spam, although accurate Focus Blasts are nice too. Would fight with Volcarona and Zard-Y as a fast special attacker. Outspeeds Zard-Y and overpowers Volcarona but Volcarona can boost. Would be surprisingly bulky since almost anything fighting it gets burned before it has a chance to hit. and since it gets Extrasensory it can rape Keldeos that aren't carrying scarfs thanks to that nice speed.
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>>33042547
alright let's see. looking at ti's stats and general use it's a special sweeper and I want to keep it that way

fire is a decent offensive typing but it needs something else, the most helpful thing would be ground since it hits other fire types and rock types that resist fire

it can't rely n scarf for speed so it needs a significant boost to let's say 120 and 149 SpA
40 more points to go, 10 def +spdef 20 attack for maybe wild charge coverage.

I don't think from then on it needs a significant further boost in form of an ability, it's fast and will do a lot of damge, but it should go down quite easily too with many weaknesses and the general strenght of OU. his HA flash fire seems fine
tl dr:

78
104
88
149
95
120

timid @ flash fire
fire ground
Eruption/Fireblast
Earthpower
Wildcharge
any HP/ Eruption
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>>33044297
>his
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Make its stomach darker and fangs and ears longer, fire is white hot flows out of the back a bit like a cape

Mega Typhlosion
Fire/Dark
HP: 78
Attack: 114 (+30)
Defence: 78
Sp. Attack: 139 (+30)
Sp. Defence: 95 (+10)
Speed: 120 (+20)


Ability: Consuming Flames - Any damage done with fire moves recovers health as 50% of damage done

New moves: Poison Fang (lvl 1), Giga Drain (TM), Leech Life (TM), Elemental Fangs (Egg) and Crunch (Egg)

>>33043834
>quick attack morning sun status spreader
Nice
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>>33044225
Dark is the same, it doesn't lean towards an element, it's just a fighting style. Things based on magical creatures tend to learn elemental attacks. Those don't learn ddance for various reasons, but there is at least precedent for them to learn it. No volcanic mon learns water moves except the one that's an actual water type.
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>>33044334
Now you're just retarded.
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>>33044340
Not an argument.
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>>33044342
I can be a retard too, watch this
Not an argument.
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>>33044342
>Not an argument.
Not an argument
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>>33044351
I made an argument here >>33044334, you didn't counter. Guess you concede.
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>>33044360
I made an argument here >>33044225 and you just replied with a "no u" tier reply.
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>>33044370
What fucking part of >>33044334 is "no u?" Be specific.
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>>33044322
>Consuming flames
>not broken

I get eruption spam is nice, but come on no need to make something broken.
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>>33042635
Why does it even need Scald anyway? Typhlosion is meant to hit hard and fuck off, not Scald incoming Water-types.
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>>33044379
Anything faster than it or with strong priority puts a dent in Eruptions BP.
Then there's Pokémon who resist fire with a good special defence or with flash fire do well against it too.

With poor physical defence and ok special it gets revenge killed pretty easily too
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>people bothering to buff the sp atk when Game Freak has made it evident they will never give Typhlosion decent special coverage
Just go full physical, that's where it has a good movepool.
Attack: 84 + 50 -> 134
Defense: 78 + 10 -> 88
Special Attack 109 + 10 because Game Freak -> 119
Special Defense: 85 + 10 -> 95
Speed: 100 +10 -> 110
Flare Blitz/Wild Charge/EQ and maybe Flame Charge or Rock Slide would be pretty good, additionally the immunity to burn is nice. Have no idea for an ability, so maybe something generic like Mold Breaker or Defiant unless someone else has a better idea.
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>>33044374
>Dark is the same, it doesn't lean towards an element, it's just a fighting style
dark has element affinity with shadow and half of the dark Pokémon don't have a fighting style

>Those don't learn ddance for various reasons
>don't give a reason

>No volcanic mon learns water moves except the one that's an actual water type.
>it proves that volcanic Pokémon can be related with hot water
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>>33044436
Just noticed I fucked up basic math, put 10 more into speed.
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>>33044401
Because it doesn't learn anything else outside of fire type moves.
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>>33044460
But why Scald in particular? That's such a strange move to pick. Why not give it Power Gem if you're going to give it weird coverage.
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>>33044439
It's actually painful to me how fucking stupid you are.

Element as in natural element. Fire, ice, electricity, etc.
What's even the point of the ddance argument? It has nothing to do with anything. Chomp doesn't learn it for balance reasons, the others because they decided not to. It's completely irrelevant.
It doesn't learn it BECAUSE it's volcanic, it learns it because it's a water type. If volcanic was a reason, the others would learn it. Even aside from all that, it's a legendary and not subject to normal distribution rules.
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>>33044644
Because it is a volcano and I relate volcanoes with geysers (idk why this guy >>33044644 make a bid deal of it) and I like seeing Pokémon using opposed types like Volcarona with Giga Drain and Slowbro with Fire Blast. (Sorry for my bad English)
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>>33044721
Whoops
>(idk why this guy >>33044644 make a bid deal of it)
Was meant to >>33044664
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i feel like if they made it physical it would be overshadowed by ZardX
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>>33042547
Quiver Dance
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just give it nasty plot.
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