Why is this character so popular?

Blatant waifubait

It's forced down your throat.

>>33021392

Blatant waifubait + plus she's the first girl to be a major character in both the game and anime, so she has two different incarnations that can be marketed.

>>33021392
Waifubait for filthy neckbeards but also those who don't like lillie make it a point to make it known that they don't like lillie which only makes the neckbeards whiteknight their 2d waifu harder, attracting more neckbeards to her

>>33021429
this too

What does Lillies lilly smell like?

>>33021402
In a few words this, buzzwords aside, I always find cute how she always tried to do her best even with the most little things like crossing a bridge, also her theme is godly, almost made me tear at the end of the credits.

>>33021449
Lillies

A thread died for this

Blatant waifubaiting, being relentlessly pushed by TPC, and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

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>>33021392
She's a 11-years-old loli with exposed armpits. That's all I need.

>>33021531
And a few more will follow suit, knowing how these people operates.

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>long blond hair
>cute 11 year old girl
>kind, innocent, and helpless demeanor
>is a forced main character that, despite her screentime, doesnt have any impact on the plot or story so people get to interpret her actions as they see fit
>as a collective, an incredible amount of people have basic, shallow, and/or creepy taste in female characters
did i get it all /vp/?

>>33021392
Cute loli protagonist who spends the whole game jerking (You) off and telling (You) how awesome (You) are.

>>33021392
People either hate her or like her.

People who like her should be put down.

Waifubait + Mary Sue.

>>33022184
Mary Sue lost all meaning years ago when 90% of the people that use it began to define it as 'a character I don't like'.

You're right on the money with waifubait, but calling her a Mary Sue is goofy as fuck.

>>33022704
She's a Mary Sue though. She's the "i cant do anything but everybody love me" girl and the "i do nothing but everything i do is cute", while also stealing the spotlight of the main trainer by making SM her story. She's just written better than most of the one on the internet because she was written by professional. (doesn't mean that she isn't shit)

appeals to basic moe sensibilities

>>33022724
I'd argue that she's neither a self-insert nor wish fulfillment character(outside of maybe some overlap with her status as waifubait, but a Mary Sue was originally a character you wanted to be not one you wanted to fug) so it'd be better to hate on her by saying the writers seemed to want her to be the game's protagonist rather than the player character and wrote the story around her than trying to accuse her of being a Mary Sue.

The word has lost pretty much all meaning and one can make the claim of nearly any character being one if they want to try hard enough.

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>>33021392
Not a brapfag, but this makes it look like she farted out Cosmog

>>33021392
>Small and adorable
>Cute expressive face
>Mischievous
What's not to like about Nebby?

>>33022882
I think the fact you'd think that means you have at least a bit of shit-tier fetish taking up space in your head.

Regular niggas can tell it's just our boy Nebby lifting up her skirt...

>>33022891
>neby get in dah bagg xDDDD

worst fucking character alive

wish she was the one on the fucking portal, she's so god damn annoying jesus

not even trying to be edgy she legit is the worst character

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>>33022979

>>33021459
>she always tried to do her best
>like crossing a bridge
What?

>>33022704
I'd argue Lillie is pretty close to it considering she ignores the series' established rules in order to enforce her plot (and nobody actually calls her out on it either when they rightfully should).

>>33022979
Edgy & contrarian

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>>33023115

Because most people have godawful taste. She's among the top 3 things that is terribly wrong with this game.

>>33023150
>everyone else is the problem! I swear it's not me!

>>33022979
The issue isn't her character itself, it's how the game handles her. There's nothing really wrong with her character archetype, it's just that she doesn't really do much in the game and is forced down your throat most of the time.

Frankly I feel like most of the hate for her in this contrarian wasteland would disappear if she was less prominent and caught a Pokemon halfway through the game.

>>33021697
What do you consider as being creepy?

>>33023179
its just like

she's so forced it hurts,
i would honestly want to learn more about the kahunas and trial captains than to keep hearing lillie have a turn on over how you saved nebby that day

>>33021697
Yeah this about sums it up.

>>33022882
GET BACK IN THE BUTT, NEBBY!

>>33021392
Because of the SM game.

>>33021429
>+ plus

>>33021697
but this, just pedo bait

Blatant waifu/shipbait in both the game and anime (no matter how much AmourShitters want to deny the latter)

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>>33021392

>ctrl+f "aryan goddess"
>0 results found
>again
This place really is getting worse with every month.

>>33025998
>Attracts people with the whole Aryan's gpddess meme
>fulfills the nip mans dream of a white foreigner being their childhood friend/slash love interest

The latter is the bigger reason she's so popular. Having a white GF in japan is a big thing to them

>>33021392
She's a female character, that's pretty much all you need.

>>33023147
I just thought this scene solidified her as downright pathetic.

>>33021392
So who's worse, Lillie or Zinnia?

>>33026504
Lille.
Zinnia doesn't even appear until after you beat the main game. Lillie hogs the screen for the majority of the main story.

>>33021392

she seems like she was invented in a factory to give 15 year old boys a boner

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FUCK LILLIE

AMOUR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CANON, I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO ALOLA WITH ASH

I FUCKING HATE LILLIE AND AURELIASHITTERS SO GOD DAMN MUCH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

She is the goddess who will save us from the cancer that is AmourShitting

>>33021392
She's white and her whole family is pure eugenetics.

>>33026504
Can't decide between Bianca and Iris.

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>>33021429
>she's the first girl to be a major character in both the game and anime
What about May? She plays two pretty big roles in the game, as a player character, she's essentially you, and as an NPC she's your neighbor and friend that travels with you throughout.

I wanna be Lillie.

>>33022782

Nah, she's a Mary Sue. Plain put.

>Oh no I am so helpless and useless but now I became a better and independent person by doing fuck all, here is a new haircut to further prove how much I grew up

Seriously, the story makes it seem like MC's the one doing all the development for her. I have literally no fucks to give to her. At least she had the audacity to back talk against her mother, but she seriously could have done that a long time ago as well instead of making the MC go through her family drama just because her mother became a total bitch, ''''supposedly'''' due to Nihilego.

>>33021392
Same reasons as Asuna of SAO

>>33022882
I thought of it as a skirt lift.
I think you're having mini-ptsd.

>>33023244
>being sexually attracted to an eleven year old
>not creepy
Daily reminder being a pedophile is a mental illness

>>33022782
>Mary Sue was originally a character you wanted to be
Aha, so you don't know what you're talking about.
A mary sue is a character that has no flaws or inconsequential flaws who is loved by all other characters. While these characters are often author self inserts, the two terms are not synonymous.

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Reminder that no one would be complaining about Lillie nearly as much if she just caught a Pokemon and you got to fight her after she got over her "Pokemon Battles are wrong :(" Phase.

>>33021392
cause nebby is a fuckin beast

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>>33027997
>Your face when the Lillie you could have faced is stuck in anime hell and you will never actually face a Lillie who owns a Alolan Vulpix/Ninetails or any useful pokemon for that matter that could have made her more interesting as a trainer

>>33021392
Because this is /vp/, it's mostly pedophiles and manchildren in here. But mostly pedophiles.

>>33028120
>has no attraction to children

fuck it, i'll take manchild

>>33027974
Different people define it in different ways. You can claim you have the "official" definition but not everyone is going to listen. It's not like you can just pop open a dictionary and prove it.

In general though, the two most common ways to define Mary Sue overlap excessively often. And no matter which definition you pick, Lillie is both. She is waifubait and designed specifically with character traits that are endearing to nips and has few to no character flaws.

Perhaps you could make an argument that her flaw is supposed to be the inability to express her own will and always being subject to that of her mother. Her timidness and self-guessing about her actions throughout the game are her rough adjustment to becoming her own person. Constantly blurting out like a broken record how her mother selects her clothes is probably GF's way to try and show just how damn dependent and obedient she was. Lillie is a disturbed child with a wretched upbringing and her entire development is built around breaking this shackle and becoming herself after watching the PC and using you as a moral support crutch and a role model. Kinda reminds me of Until They Bring the Streetcars Back except not nearly as fucked up.

Even if she does have a flaw worth mentioning, she was still a pest in story execution.

>>33027973
But being romantically attracted is completely natural.

>Daily reminder being a pedophile is a mental illness
But being an hebephile means having great taste.

>>33021392
Shes the first REAL example of female protagonist in a pokemon game that we get to follow. Not counting Yuki or whats her name from Colloseum cause she literally follows us

>>33027937
That's probably it.

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Pew!

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>>33021392
She is a cute lesbian!

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>>33027084
Me too

>>33021402
FPBP

>>33026428
this

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>>33021392
Because people like her.
The reasons for liking her vary from simply being cute, to being relatable, from just liking her as a traveling companion, to enjoying seeing her grow stronger over the course of the game.

>>33021392
She's the blonde gaijin every jap teen would've dreamed about, the perfect bait

Back in the bag nebby

>>33028228
Her flaw is that she's fucking pathetic, which the game pretty much hammers into you from the time you meet her. Her execution as a character was flawed, but "being the focus of the plot" isn't nearly enough to make her a Mary Sue.

Lillie isn't a Mary Sue by any means, she's just a rushed character and her development could have been leagues better.

>>33021459
thats exactly why she was annoying, stopping you every 5 seconds and turning everything into a big deal

imagine everytime you took a bite out of your captain crunch breakfast she said "boy anon i wish i could eat cereal like you do. ill try my best to not let it scrape the roof of my mouth even though seeing cereal mascots fight makes me sad! since you're doing such a great job, let me wash your spoon for you and give you some crunch berries!

>>33022922
>pew! pew! pew! pew fuck yourpew!

>>33026504

Zinnia. Lillie was annoying but Zinnia was straight out of deviantart.