Honchkrow is better than staraptor prove me wrong

Staraptor can beat Machamp

>>32995311
>Staraptor
>120 attack
>Honchkrow
>125 attack
>Honchrow gets drill peck

>>32995353
I'll take the one that is in BL and not the one in RU.

>>32995416
Placement means nothing when you are a godly as honchkrow

>>32995353
>Drill Peck vs Reckless Brave Bird
You know there IS an unironic answer to this thread. Moxie Sucker Punch is pretty good.

>>32995303

How would you make this bird OU?

>>32995303
I fucking cant

*tips fedora*

>>32995416
I would much rather be NU then a BL mon, that's the worst thing that can happen.

>>32996646
Speed
Bravebird

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>>32996646
Fix its defensive stats or speed it up.

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>>32995303
They seem pretty similar to me

>stab return max friendship
>Adamant
>252 atk, 252 spe 4 sp def
Ez

>>32995303
Can't

Anything with super luck and a hit crit move is just too fun to use. Those 100% crits with that scope lens, can't top that!

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>>32997197
>using return over reckless boosted double edge
It's like you don't even want BIG DAMAGE for emo bird

>>32997077
+20 to each def would probably be adequate. giving it speed seems thematically out of place to me

Brave Bird + Sucker Punch + two out of Superpower, Heat Wave and Icy Wind is actually hard to counter even in OU environment. It's rarely going to live for more than two turns, but that's enough to kill one mon and severely hurt another.

>>32998149
problem is actually getting it in because it's defenses are paper thin and it's damn slow so if your opponent correctly predicts even a single one of your attacks it's SOL

>>32995303
252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 212-251 (68.1 - 80.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Honchkrow: 372-438 (109 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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