>moves that set terrain/weather like rain dance or electric

>>32987975
so basically gen 5 again but with some new things

>>32987982

Not as broken as gen 5 because you need to sacrifice your item slot, one of your moveslots, and spend a turn of setup.

It's no coincidence that weather completely died in gen 6 after the nerf. There should be a middle ground between the uselessness of current rain dance and gen 5's permadrizzle. I want to find that middle ground

>>32988013
>weather completely died in gen 6 after the nerf

rain has been obnoxiously popular lately because of pelipper and now mega pert

>>32987975
I actually kind of like this idea and this >>32988013
is a actually good point.

You can get punished a lot for setting terrain/weather through a move. Automatically activating it though an ability is nice but wasting a turn, a move slot, and potentially an item slot to set up should be rewarded.

It would also add some diversity to terrain/weather teams.

>>32987975
if it works with rooms too the >it's good in trick room meme would be real, and the meta would change a fucking lot