Pokemon TCG/O General: Locked Behind An $80 Paywall Edition

>>32983917
Lugia isn't that good though it's a popular card, Celebi is good but very few decks will want to run more than 2 of them.

it'll probably be like shiny M Gengar EX where the gimmick will keep it around 20 each for a while but will plummet once the novelty fades. I don't see them being much more expensive than that.

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Why did the mods/janitors delete the last thread?
>>32979413

>>32984309
A lot of threads were purged

>>32983917
Feels overhyped aside specific decks in my opinion.

Marshadow is going to be the pricy boy instead.

>>32984309
it's funny because I got my thread pruned just for asking why the board keeps getting deleted.

>>32984580
Marshadow isn't a good card in international standard, it's basically designed for Japanese standard where they still have toad/night march at least until 2018.

>>32983917
Is the tutorial really worth this much effort? It's so boring senpai.

>>32985329
free packs are worth it, you don't need to power through it all at once.

Good cards to invest in to keep pack value for rotation? I was thinking Lele. Have 280 packs of GUR.

>>32985346
This. Break it up with Versus ladder, you should be doing that anyways for daily challenges and free staple-ish cards.

>>32985502
Lele and guardians packs probably the safest place to store value atm. I'd pick up Shaymins at rotation, I feel that card is going to just plummet in value more than it should, it's still good, just more easily punished.

>>32983917
How rare are these things going to be? Full Art rarity or holo?

>Shining Celebi and Shining Lugia
I don't follow the TCG very closely anymore, anyone have a translation for these 2

>>32985740
Probably holo. I can't imagine cards such as this being as rare as full arts are.

>>32985791
The original shining cards were 3 star rarity so to say these won't be higher in rarity isn't much of a stretch

>>32985768
lugia's first attack does 120 if the enemy poke has an ability, second is discard 1 energy.

celebi's attack is worthless but its ability is shrine of memories.

Why doesn't Pokemon use MTG mulligan rules?

Seems lame if your hand is absolute shit, but you have a basic Pokemon, so you HAVE to play it.

>>32986639
Because only losers play MTG.

>>32986639
What I want to know is why MtG doesn't have Pokemon mull rules (adjusted a little, of course).

>>32986659
You don't need a creature in MTG. There's no requirement for what's on the field or what's in your hand. So if you have a shit hand, you can toss it and scry.

Pokemon you're forced to play. That seems dumb.

>>32986651
Fuck off.

>>32986692
>Pokemon you're forced to play.
Because not having a pokemon on the field is a losing condition.

>>32986692
I mean something more like mulling gives your opponent the option to draw. That way getting manascrewed twice doesn't mean an autoloss.

>>32986748
Sure. But you should be allowed to keep mulliganing til you get a hand you like, or you're afraid to go again due to opponent's hand size.

>>32986748
MTG:
>6 lands, 1 creature
"This is a bad hand, I'll mull"

Pokemon:
>Trubbish, 3 energy, 2 ultra ball, VS
"This is a bad hand, I can't mull and now I'm going to lose unless I top deck Sycamore"

>>32986750
Oh that'd be cool, but possibly broken in Modern.

>>32986750
Your opponent already gets to draw if you mulligan.

ToTT: Mew EX never made it past $30 even when it was splashed in Vepsiquen briefly, doubt either of these promos - should they remain exclusive to the $80 box - will be excessively pricey. It does however concern me that preorder prices for a jap copy of Shining Mew are around $100.

>>32986814
Not a bad hand actually, just Ultra Ball for Lele for N.

>>32986801
>keep mulliganing til you get a hand you like
That is literal cancer, anon. Playing off what you're given makes for a more varied gameplay.

>>32986839
That's why MTG rules are better.

Your own hand gets smaller, but you get to check the top card of your deck and put it on the bottom if you want.

>>32986814
any opening hand with an ultra ball isn't bad. a bad opening hand is one basic and a bunch of energy, tech supporters or recovery cards.

>>32986850
I concede on the premise that that is your opinion. Personally, I enjoy the "luck of the draw" gameplay Pokemon has. It's one reason why I never got into MTG.

>>32986814
Open Trubbish, ultra energy and VS for Drampa, ultra energy and energy for Lele, Wonder Tag Lillie, draw eight.
Not the worst opening.

>>32986850
See, but ptcg has way more card draw and more tutoring than mtg. So fewer cards is less of a penalty, if you've got what you need.

>>32986814
If you think that's a bad hand you haven't been playing for long.

Just started my account, total noob but I'm having a lot of fun with this beginning electric/colorless deck actually

I'm probably becoming too dependent on setting up Raichu or Kangaskhan but whatever

>>32987167
low-mid level play was always to most fun desu.

>>32987167
While it's not a great deck, Crushing Current is probably my favorite of the starter decks they give you. Still way too bloated with pokemon like most of the decks, but tries to get away with it by using Sky Field.

>>32987376
Yeah, I keep getting swamped with pokemon in my hand and no energies or trainer cards.

>>32987328
It's been smooth sailing until this Penelope bitch, I think the level it's at I literally can't beat her with this deck. I guess I have to try versus and get some more cards or something? IDEK

>>32987411
You should have 3 decks. Beat her with one of the other two, skip her, then come back.

>>32987411
If you're having trouble against the AI, just concede and rematch until you get a game where you get an amazing setup in the first few turns. Alternatively, use your coins to buy one or two of the newer theme decks and use them instead.

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H O T

>>32987515
>>32987510
Nah, got her. I guess it was just a matter of RNG and time. Also not being an idiot and realizing that Raticate is great against her because it can't be status'd and it poisons her shit right back.

>>32987522
BEGONE THOT

>266 tradable Mallow

Well i can't burn them and they aren't selling, what do i do?

>>32988456
Put them all up for an EVO.

>>32983917
Suppose I had access to any code from any theme deck. Which is the most powerful?

Is there a way to use the coin deck boxes for constructed decks?

>>32983917
Ready for the Australian price of the box to be $150 to $180 which is a solid fuck up the ass. Hopefully after the hype dies down, the individual promo prices will drop a bit but it's Pokemon, who knows.
Looking forward to collecting the set online where it wont cost me a liver though.

>>32988676
>>32988676
The lunala one

>>32983917
Excuse me if this is answered somewhere, but coins are only good for buying packs and theme decks in the PTCGO shop, right? Nothing else?

>>32989580
You can use them to enter coin tournaments, which award tickets, then use those tickets to get tradable packs, but otherwise no. This is all in the OP, more people should read it.

>>32983917
Holy shit, this Lunala deck is busted. Most of the time I just sut there and sweep with Lunala, Bewear, or Salazzle.

SM4 has been confirmed, called Crimson Invasion.
http://www.totalcards.net/blog/pokemon/pokemon-crimson-invasion-world-exclusive/

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So with rotation coming up, how will we fill the space in the deck after VS Seeker and trainer's mail leaves?

Poorfag here. can someone spare a breakpoint booster code?

>>32990884
Mail is already dead due to garb. Even in this format there are decks that cut back on vs seeker for more supporters.

Replacement toolbox options post rotation are lele and skyla.

>>32990884
>VS Seeker
Either 4 or 0 of each supporter, which fucks with supporters such as Olympia, Ranger, Brock's, Hex. The last one will also be rotated out so in general decks easily countered by these cards will benefit. Decks that need those will worsen.
There are already some players which do this just to fuck with garb.

>>32990262
>8 GXs
I really want it to be 7 Ultra Beasts + Silvally, but I guess it's gonna be Guzzlord, Nihilego, Silvally, two Mewtwos and three Bewear.

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that's right i did it

>>32988456
I'll take 4.

Can some one tell me how much is Giratina BW74 worth?

>>32991960
5 UB are already confirmed, so it'll be Silvally + 5 UB + 2 Mewtwo

>>32992653
correction, 6 UB, I guess that we'll only get one mewtwo :c

XY - Fates Collide:
7K2-72NB-HWY-GL? ( ? = L )

Sun & Moon:
C4Z-W2GH-9G9-BX? ( ? = 7 )

Mimikyu Pin Collection:
2YZ-JKGK-KXK-QX? ( ? = V )

Sun & Moon:
BMH-V22C-B79-2Y? ( ? = B )

>>32992156
You pussy, why not go all the way and get the expensive one.

>>32992695
the expensive one is uglier

>>32992695
i dont know what you mean

i found that card in a booster pack

What is the purpose of the quick match button?

Also, what is this speedhack mentioned in OP? Google gives me nothing.

>Guzzlord GX will have 350 HP but does no damage

Calling it

>>32993033
Wailord-GX when?

>>32993033
Please no

>>32993033
It's probably going to be like Snorlax GX, high attack and retreat cost and probably the same amount of HP as well.

>>32993033
Deals 50 damage and heals self for 30. Consecutive attacks increase damage dealt by 10 each time. Costs 3 energy.

>>32993033
I really want all the Ultra Beast cards to have an ability that activates when they get a KO. Something like
>Pheremosa-GX can attack again if it gets a KO
>Guzzlord GX fully heals when it gets a KO
>Celesteela GX is immune to damage on your opponent's next turn when it gets a KO
>Kartana GX can choose which Pokémon your opponent switches in if it gets a KO
>Nihilego GX takes an extra prize card when you get a KO

Obviously they would have to be balanced by not having particularly overpowered attacks.

>>32993346
Those actually seem pretty cool, except maybe pheremosa which would be broken in expanded because it can easily kill all your pokes at turn 2. Even if the attack itself has really low damage.

>>32993346
That would be so broken.
Maybe something like Kukui, if they get a KO they do 20 more damage next turn.

>>32993346
To balance something like that they'd need to be pretty shit one way or another, but the concept is neat.

>>32993346
They have to do something special, and that is kind of the closest thing to beast boost, so eh yeah maybe.

>>32993346
Reminds me of ancient traits, but as triggered abilities.

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While we are doing card ideas, here is mine. Sorry it's shit.

>No one is willing to trade me 4 nobel victories audino for a steam siege
For what raisin

what level do i start unlocking tradeable packs from dailies?

>>32988456
Give them all to me.

>>32992450
Should be like a pack tops

>>32994310
Was 16. Since they changed stuff no idea.

>>32993033
I know PTCG doesnt care too much about game mechanics but it would be weird to see pokemon above 250HP (not counting tools/abilities)

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>>32993033
no it will be liket this

Does anyone have any interest in the online booster pack codes??

I have 36 that I have no use for.

>>32994845
They're from Sun & Moon by the way

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>>32994845
>>32994867
Post'em and we'll eat them up like ravenous sharks.

>>32994845
Would love. That's like two LeLe worth.

>>32994845
>>32983917
Quick Reminder:

Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Bots will snatch plain text or uncovered QRs.
>Ask for emails and send em individually.
>If you open, post your pulls.

>>32995067
>>Post them as an image with the QR code covered.
OK, this may take a while. I'm going to take pictures real quick

>>32995106
Or ask for emails.
Or do like this guy >>32992676


Just some way the bots can't immediately grab them.

>>32990884
Run 4 N 4 Sycamore, 3 Lele will be the new normal.

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CODES INCOMING

1/6
FIRE PUSY EDITION

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>>32995234

2/6
CARPET COVERED IN PAINT STAINS EDITION

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>>32995244
3/6
MAKE ALOLA GREAT AGAIN EDITION

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>>32995254
4/6
TERRIBLE TYPE COMBINATION EDITION

>>32995264
5/6
MOONMAN EDITION

>>32995277
forgot image

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>>32995277
JUST

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>>32995290
6/6
SECRET RARE EDITION

the censored portion is a type of apricorn

Uh, one of these was steam siege?

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>>32995244
Thank ye kindly anon.

>>32995429
Spicy

>>32990884
I'd probably fill the extra space with shauna or lillie like Prof. Oak's theory in the legacy format

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>>32995556
there's no reason to use Shauna desu as long as N is still around. Standard deck engine will be

4 sycamore
4 N
3 Lele

A lot of decks will run Hala, Olivia will replace PFC in a lot of decks that use GX evos. Shauna and Birch still won't see a lot of play imo.

>>32995835
I mean, all decks have N at 4 of. You can't replace something with a card that's already in your deck at max capacity.

>>32983917
>nobody on ptcgo has "Wruce Billis" yet
HELL yes.

>>32995835
This Typhlosion looks like he wants his Massive Eruption in someone's Afterburner

>>32995835
PFC?

Fan club

>>32996688
Thanks.

>>32983917
Anybody interested in play old formats on Tabletop Simulator? I recently got into the game (Black White ish) and I feel like I missed out on really cool cards. Could host some sort of tournament if we had enough anons interested

>>32985791
They are literally their own rarity tier, as shown by the emblem in the bottom left corner. Most definitely the highest rarity of the set, probably 1 per 1-2 boxes.

>>32997081
>probably 1 per 1-2 boxes
Thanks God they're shit.

>>32986829
Yeah $100 is def a rip-off. No jap set card in this day and age is worth that much money unless it's an insane 1 in 3 boxes pull rate. But even so, Pokemon prints so much these days that the supply will certainly meet demand. You might as well just buy a few boxes.

>>32997093
Lol you'd prefer not to pull one?

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IT'S NOT FAIR. WATER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE META. AQUA PATCH WAS OUR SALVATION, BUT IT DIDN'T WORKED THANKS TO THAT STUPID DECIDUEYE.

I just...wanted to play Lapras...I spent more than $60 USD in a useless deck...

>>32997269
Dude, just wait for rotation, Decidueye goes dead and all water loses is dive ball.

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>>32997327
But then Golisopod comes out and everything will be fucked again. Slower, but still fucked.

I wish Water's future is something good and doesn't suffer the same destiny as Gardevoir (aka Fairy type).

>>32997343
Gardevoir GX won Japan and doesn't rely on cards outside our standard format.

>>32995835
Normal type ??

>>32997343
Ou had Greninja for long enough, and Gard is getting a decent GX.

>UBs are just GX cards

Well that was to be expected I guess, hopefully they have at least some neat gimmick

>>32997327
decidueye isn't the issue for lapras right now, the issue is how turbo decks shit through items which fuels garb. same issue that grass item lock has.

and less grass decks means less Volcanion which means Lapras loses its autowins.

Cough

>mfw when always missing on the codes

>>32997327

I'm not 100% sure Decidueye is going away. It wont be near as powerfu, so not teir 1, l but you can still run it with a rare candy. It's still a broken card.

>>32997343
Tapu Bulu is and will be the grass card that keeps grass weak decks down. Golisop doesn't hit hard enough constantly to deal with a lot of decks.

>>32999095
At least Golisopod isn't a grass typed Garchomp.

About to buy my first deck. Which? I've got a decent range of stage 2, and only Zygarde and Darkrai EXs.

>>32999066
IKR? I finally hit this one, got 11 packs out of it, valued at about 5.25. Using them to trade for GXs so I can finally get out of theme.

Didn't know where else to ask so I'll ask here.
Regular Pokemon fan for about 15 years, played all the games and have casually collected cards over the years, with a random burst 2 years ago where I got hooked on getting cool new Mega Ex cards and what not.
My wife and I are thinking about getting back into the TCG to have some battles between us and maybe some of our close friends.

My question is: what would be a good standard deck build in terms of the # of Pokemon, energy, and trainer cards?
I have about 12 Ex cards and a couple Megas. The rest are regular with some special ability mons thrown in.

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>>33001135
These are the total cards I have

>>33001154

Your house looks really clean. I want to lay on that carpet.

>>33001135
I'd tell you to read that link for beginners in the OP but for some reason it got removed.
If someone has it please post it because it was pretty good specially at explaining the deck card ratios and how to NOT follow the theme deck structure.

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>>33001356
Thanks! Just vacuumed the other day. Have napped on the floor with kitties many a times

>>33001135
>>33001418
Yea if anyone has a beginners link or somewhere to go with updated and relevant information that'd be great!

Is Choice Band always better than Fighting Fury Belt?

I'm using a Passimian deck right now, in which all of the attacking Pokémon are Basics, and there's one guy at my local league who has repeatedly told me I'm an idiot for using Fighting Fury Belt because Choice Band is just better

Given that, at my league, about 1/4-1/2 of players (including him) are using Trevenant/Garbodor decks, against which Choice Band does literally nothing, I figure I'm justified, but he's also a better player than I am.

>>33001135
The best way of making a deck is always to pick 1-2 families of Pokémon as your attackers, then put supporting Pokémon in, a tonne of trainers and a few energy.
Competitive-level decks are usually about 15 Pokémon, 15 Energy and 30 trainer cards. That might seem really unbalanced, but the idea of trainer cards is that they let you get the exact other cards you want, when you want them. Once you have the ability to get your Pokémon out of your deck whenever you want, the only reason to have more Pokémon is to make sure you're not screwed if your attacking Pokémon is in your prize cards.

For consistency's sake, usually you will only have a couple of Pokémon families, and have a full playset of them. A lot of newer players will have ten different families of Pokémon in their deck, and spend the whole game with two Magikarps but no Gyarados in their hand, and at the same time having a Blastoise and Wartortle but no Squirtle in their hand. The fewer families you have, the lower the chance of that happening.
If you don't have enough of a family to use a full playset, at least of the basics, then just don't use that family. It might seem a shame, but it's just a bad idea if you're relying so much on luck.

TCG Online is a good place to get some basic ideas if you've never played before. You will start off with theme decks, though, which are a great demonstration of why decks with lots of families and few trainer cards are infuriating and luck-based.

>>33001849
FFB is better in a couple of scenarios. Specifically those that put you in a very good position for consistent one or two shot KOs where a CB wouldn't actually make a difference, while making sure you're just out of range of them.
If you've tried CB over FFB, and feel the FFB is more useful, it probably is.

>>33001420
>Wife
>cats
>a house
Please stop posting, I'm very depressed.

>>32997081
Aren't they exclusive to the premium collection?

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>>33001418
>>33001435
I have these from previous generals. Don't remember if the image is the updated version.
https://pastebin.com/sHq3y40X

>>32987522
THICC

>>33001135
>New?
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg
>https://pastebin.com/sHq3y40X

>>33002060
It doesn't include any SuMo in standard so no.

>>33001135
http://ptcgohub.com/how-to-build-competitive-decks

Some of the staples mentioned are about to rotate, but the rest is good.

>>33002291
Yeah, saw after posting.

>>33002372
Loves Guzma and that one swapping metagross.

>>32983917
So I bought a booster box of Guardians Rising a while back and I just got into this game today. Any tips? Also I just got this and a Drampa-GX sooo when about should I start making a deck?

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>>33002500
uhhh I mean pic related

Do any of you have a non-holo drampa-gx?
I don't have the packs to trade for a holo, but nobody is trading non-holos.

>>33002527
I do actually. You mean a non-FA right? What are you willing to give for it?

>>33002549
I've got Sun&Moon packs.

>>33002558
How many? And is that SM base set?

>>33002562
Not guardians, just base set.
Does 3 sound reasonable?

It looks like they're going for a little more than a Solgaleo-GX, and those are going for 1 GRI or 2SuMo.
http://www.pokegoldfish.com

Question: is 4 baby Volcanions a fair request for my RR Kommo-o?

>>33002741
Steam Siege Volcanion is about a pack each, RR Kommo-o GX is 2 packs.

I'd say yes

>>32983917

I cant read moon

Whats so good about Celebi?

>>33002983
Try googling "SM3 shining celebi", you lazy fuck.

>>33003042

Whats good about using prevolutions attacks though?

>>33003059
It depends on the line you're using, but mostly it provides utility. Your lower evos might have good status moves your Stage 2 does not and etc.

>>33003086
About how much is the FA Zygarde-EX going for right now?

>>33003120
I already gave you a spoon, you can feed yourself.
There's links in the OP to find card value.

>>33003127
There's only 2 Zygarde-EX there, the Fates Collide one and the XYP one.

>>33003120
>>33003127
>link doesn't work
Disregard, I suck cocks I guess. Try browsing sites that sell singles online, you'll get varying prices but it'll give you an average.

>>33003059
Go look at alolan Sandeshrewith line.

>>33003147
I just posted one
>>33002628
These are in dollars.

There's also http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

Both should probably be put in OP to replace the bad link.

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>>33003216
The heck is this??

>>33003354
An attack that requires no energy to use.

Can someone tell me what is this ladder's fa supporter?

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>>33003971

>>33002507
>>33002500
Well you've already got like half the value needed for a tier 1.5 deck so why not?

>>33004023
Thank you anon

>>32983917
The server doesn't care Tehran you've got speedhack running while on VS, does it?

>shaymins are now 25$ average

What happened?

>>33005239
A more difficult to punish consistency card that competes for bench space outcompeted it. It'll see more use in the worlds meta again because of scoop up/acerola but it will never be the big money card again.

>>33005262
>$25
>not big money card
Anything above $10 is expensive. Hell, that's the price of a regular rarity megazard.

>>33005351
it's not THE big money card though, and $25 is peanuts in most TCGs. Lele is the new $40 staple.

>>33001849
> Given that, at my league, about 1/4-1/2 of players (including him) are using Trevenant/Garbodor decks, against which Choice Band does literally nothing, I figure I'm justified, but he's also a better player than I am.

You're doing the right thing. People talk big, but if the local scene isn't matching the talk don't follow the talk.

Hey, so I have a Golisopod/Lurantis deck I enjoy playing on TCGO. At what point do I bite the bullet and buy the cards for playing in tournaments?

Also how similar are irl toruneys to playing versus online?

>>33005791
You'll very likely run into countless Drampa/Garb decks, so don't expect to win consistently. It's not full RNG when it comes to shuffling, so learn to shuffle well. Don't do anything to enrage the autists when you play against them like having as messy bench or touching their cards without asking.
>Don't buy physical copies if you don't plan on playing more than just a few times then stopping

>>33005824
My tournament scene is only 1/9 garb.

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Will I get banned if I bought packs from a guy 3 months ago? Im still nervous ill get banned anyway even though its been so long.

>>33005239
>>33005262
It's also rotating in two months, locking it out of the most played format forever.

>>33005351
>Anything above $10 is expensive
sensible chuckle

>>33006109
Buying codes is ok.

Buying a service where a guy sends you packs ingame = you risk getting banned.

>>33006753
There's no way to see if anyone's bought codes, even in theory, is there? I can't think of one.

>>33005824
>You'll very likely run into countless Drampa/Garb decks, so don't expect to win consistently.
>Both garb and dramp get one-shot on turn 2.
What did he mean by this?

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>>32983917
What's the best candidate for basic Charizard when Kiawe enables the Mega deck to fly?

>>33006906
That one you posted isn't complete ass and was in generations so i'll say that one

>search ptcgo in archive
>Get a bunch of pokeporn spam threads

Of course...

>>33006906

I wish the stoke one was in formate over that one. With Victini you have a 75% chance to add 3 energy from your deck letting you go into the M Charizard next turn that has a flip for each energy. Not a good deck but playable for people who like charizard.

>>33007000
>Not a good deck
I don't know, turn two 200 is pretty dang nasty.

>>33004023
>330 versus points for one pack of value

How do I get into the online market with this game? I only seem to get packs I can't trade which gives me cards I can't trade which means I'm just stuck with a bunch of no synergy trash?
Like I did the trainer challenges but like literally now what? OP says enter the tournaments but how am I going to win with garbage?

>>33007052
I personally just want it for the novelty. Team Rocket is my favorite team.

>>33007081
You can just put one GRI up for it on public trades, can't you? Is there anything different about ladder FA's?

>>33007079
Theme tournaments. If you enter Theme tournaments that cost tickets, you get tradable packs when you win. That way everyone has garbage and you have an actual chance of winning.
>>33007087
>wasting a tradable pack when there's more important things to get, like Tapu Lele
I can just idly play matches for a couple hours a day to get coins and tickets at the same time. They give you plenty of time.

whats the top Vs prize this ladder?

>>33007095
>a couple hours a day
Fucking hell dude.
Why would you need more than 4 Lele's?

>>33007129
>>33004023

>>33007132
I have nothing better to do at work a lot of days so I play on my phone. Lele's value is probably only going up post rotation and trading them off for BS packs will be a good way to stock up.
I currently have 9.

>>32983917
Does "advantage" mean the opponent's deck usually beats my deck, or that the RNG will be stacked against me? Playing theme I stalled with a Litwick for eight turns before I got another basic and only won through a clutch timer ball->salazzle/confuse ray at one prize each.

>>33007270
I'm also wondering what advantage actually means. Higher win rate in general, higher tier, or a higher success rate against my deck?

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Grass type Raikou with Flareon-EX's ability for grass energy.

Are you ready for another Genesect format?

>>33006755
Unless codes have some sort of pattern dependent on location and you redeem them from a different location, but even then you could have just bought packs from somewhere else.

If I hit the "open another" option when I don't have any more packs, will it prompt me to pay for one, or will it automatically withdraw the points to do so without confirmation?

>>33008420
It shouldn't have that prompt if you don't have anymore

If anything it'll take you to the shop, could maybe be bugged and let you open more packs so I guess try

>>33007583
dude, it's literally a grass flareon

>>33007583
This guy is going to be fun with the grass energy acceleration we have

>>33009263
+ the lord of the jungle

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>>33007583

Grass types have wanted a non-X basic attacker for I think 5 years now.

http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/pokemon-tcg-format-rotation-for-the-2018-season/

Starting September 1st, Standard will be Breakthrough and XY67 on

>>33010392
Fucking hyped for Lurantis/Genesect now

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>>33010579
So only three sets?

>>33010706

Diuble Crisis is dead too, hoss.

>>33010706
Wheres this from

>>33010706
Hoopa EX is Promo XY71 so it stays.

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>>33010706
Use this next time

>>33007583
Keldeo was only good because of Deluge, which is a ridiculous ability, made even better by Archie's fishing out blastoise in one turn.

Raikou was only ever played as a rogue deck in expanded to counter Yveltal, because Eelektrik+Compressor is strong. In standard, even with a deluge ability, it's still too rogue to be played. Some people might splash it in Koko as a non EX attacker.

Flareon EX was never the centerpiece attacker of any deck and only saw play as a one of tech in Volcanion, and only briefly.

So the track record isn't necessary good for this card. Sure there's immediate synergy with Venusaur (a stage 2 line) and Lurantis GX+baby Lurantis (a stage 1 line) but without FoGP it's entirely too clunky. And even with FoGP it's still gonna have consistency issues.

>>33010986
Octillery wasn't in Ancient Origins....

>>33007583
I want one of these just so I can put it next to my Shining Kabutops in my binder.

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>>33011066
Oops youre right

>>33007270
No idea. Been trying to figure it out myself.

Also where the second daily is that you supposedly get at 10, and if there is still a Level where you get tradable packs as rewards after the update.

>>33011153
So this doesn't say ultra ball
>>33010706
But this does

Which is true?

>>33011268
Ultra Ball was in Sun & Moon and Fates Collide, so it's legal.

The bigger list lists everything important in each set, regardless of whether it's been reprinted.

>>33007270
You mean before a game when it lists one player as having an Advantage?

That means that player has a significantly higher Elo ranking than their opponent. i.e, that player has a better win/loss record so they're more likely to win.

It's not smart enough to work out deck advantages, and no matter how much people whinge, the game doesn't intentionally decide to give one player bad luck.

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How the fuck are we gonna get this fucker?

>>33011311
I figured deck advantage would be pretty easy to calculate for theme.

>>33011311
I wish it showed exact Elo like showdown

>>33011480
Can't 180 without discarding everything. Seems fine.

>>33011488
Theme decks, sure, but with construction decks, the contents of a deck vary so much that they would have to write an AI to identify the "main" Pokémon of a deck so they could record matchup records between each deck archetype. Even then, it would end up confused if there are several ways of running a given deck.

Given that even the deck wizard can't work properly without suggesting I put Audino EX into literally every deck, having an algorithm to group decks together is far beyond the developers.

>>33011503
dude, the FA and HR

>>33010706
Enhanced Hammer, Rare Candy, Switch, Ultra Ball, Exp Share, Wally and Scorched Earth are all reprinted
Gardevoir and its mega are in Generations
Escape Rope is most likely be reprinted on Burning Shadows.

>>33011283
That's stupid

Lads, I'm new at this stupid game. I keep wrecking asses with the theme decks, but I can't make a decent deck with my cards...

Please help.

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>>33011525

Are you some how telling me that my Oranguru/Lugia/M Absol Deck is not teir 1

Post Deck Wizard decks

>>33011841
Grind packs until you can trade for two Lele, then build the cheapest meta or semi meta deck tgere is (gallade octillery probly)

>>33011553
iirc they're in the english release of BUS

>>33011841
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/post/32879775/
This guy came up with a really cheap one that reuses pieces from the Steel Sun theme deck.

>>32983917
I was about to make a greninja break deck for my first standard deck. Should I just wait until rotation so Im not throwing money away?

>>33013693
Just only make it our of things that won't rotate.

>>33013693
Ehh, I'm not going to lie to you. Greninja break is rough after some time. You can win a lot of games, but a deck that straight up loses to itself can get pretty annoying after a bit. I still play it online but I've having a lot more luck with Rainbow Road and Metagross GX

Do people run prism energy with double dragon energy in dragon decks?

>>33013886
Do you have a link to the Metagross deck

"Nobody uses Wally anymore"

That kid is fucking evil, don't use Wally

>>33014527
What?

How do I adapt as a Quad Sylveon player? No VS seeker saddens me.

>>33014810
You git gud

Shining legends>Burning shadows

>>33014581
Fuck off Wally

Just beat some jackass who was using Lycanroc GX/Tauros GX. I used Ninetails GX/Tapu Lele GX, with a Dragonite EX thrown in there that I didn't bother to use

So happy for breakthrough to not be rotated out.

>>33013563
Ultra Road is actually a really fun deck to play even without Lele just yet

>>33015352
what would you suggest I replace them with whilst I save for those coveted/accursed butterfly tikis?

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>>33013563
oh shit this was me.

>>33011153
So basically nothing important apart from Shaymin (which is falling in popularity anyways), Vespiquen and a couple of staple and semi-staple Trainers?

Th-thanks TPCi.

>>33016909
And VS Seeker, and every tech supporter with it
GRI was the true rotation

>>33015089
Good for you faggot

>>33015522
I added octillery bkt since nothing truely replaces lele

>>33016909
Steel gets a decent boost with Flareon out of the picture.

>>33018924
Die in a fire lycanigger

>>32983917
>theme tourney
>wash out in finals
>get a tradeable EVO
Is this good for anything or should I just open it?

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>playing Expanded for the challenge
>five minutes deep and opponent is still on his first turn
I have not missed this in the slightest.

>>33019900
I was able to get a Snorlax GX and Dragonite EX for a pack of EVO each, so if you want one put a trade up, otherwise trade it - pretty sure it's the least valued pack

>>33020389
Otherwise open it

>>33020370
he decked himself out kek. I played a single Lysandre all game on his plume and he did the rest.

>>33016909
1. Water decks lose dive ball and rough seas
2. Drampa decks lose magma's secret base
3. Rayquaza is gone as well as any Raichu sky field decks
4. Grass loses Vespiquen and FOGP.
5. Eeveelutions are gone giving some decks a needed buff (steel mostly).
6. Hex maniac is gone so atm so no way to stop abilities outside of a couple tech mons.
7. Dragons are dead (for now).
8. Some decent trainers like Level Ball and Wally are gone.
9. Gyarados and other rogue decks are gone.
10. Some good tech trainers like Ace Trainer and Wally will hit some decks hard.

A lot of decks are changed by this rotation and some will probably die altogether. I think we'll definitely see a meta made up mostly of cards from SM+

>>33020769
>dragons are dead

Guardians killed the last mega decks and Giratina with them, dragons have been dead.

>>33020769
Wally was reprinted in Generations, so he's still in.
>>33020883
Dragons are losing Double Dragon Energy with Roaring Skies, which means that they're now ultra dead. I hope it gets reprinted in a SM set though, they really need it to even be remotely functional.

>>33020912
>Dragons are losing Double Dragon Energy with Roaring Skies, which means that they're now ultra dead. I hope it gets reprinted in a SM set though, they really need it to even be remotely functional.
DDE remains in Japanese standard, which is why it's in none of the Jap sets. If it isn't in BUS it'll be in some promo box.

>>33020370
I like how there's so much variety in the expanded. I battled these decks today.
>Raikou/eels
>Siesmitoed lock
>Vileplume
>Deoxys/Kyurem
>Solgaleo gx
>Vespiquen
>trevenant
>turbo dark
>garb drampa
>rainbow road
>Mega ray

Pretty fun except for losing

>>33020912
Yeah, I know, but nobody actually played dragons after Giratina lost relevance anyways.

>>33020994
It's great in TCGO but IRL the format is going to start running into big issues over the next few years because of the slow buildup of busted card/pokemon combos like Archie's Archeops.

I actually wish they banned Archeops going into the next expanded season. It's not a broken card per se, it just makes so many decks unviable at high levels of play in expanded.

>>33021045
Didn't they impy they will ban some things on expanded? I wis

>>33019876
I don't even have a lycanroc deck, your post was just embarrassing.

Is the Zoroark bundle worth buying?

>>33021527
BKT Zoroark is 2 packs, that's equal to 400 coins, so no.

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>buy pics related and a few misc booster packs
>get fucking nothing good

Not even a good holo rare, did they fuck with the rarity on the newer packs?

>>33019900
EVO is worth about a 1/4 a GRI pack. If you open them, if you get a rare or a reverse holo uncommon any of those are worth about 1/3 a pack each. If it's charizard, 1/2 a pack. If it's an EX, about 2/3 - 1 full pack.

>>33020389
What a horse-trader. Are you Rick Harrison's long lost second son?

>>33021527
Only if you want to pay 350 for a zorua, holo zoruark, and ugly card sleeves.
Otherwise just buy BKT packs.

>>33021567
You can just buy the noivern theme deck he's in for 500 to get a 2-2 line if memory serves.

>>33021567
It comes with two packs of BKT though.

>>33021741
Damn that's a good deal, thanks for the heads-up.

>>33021752
It's actually 2-1, before you buy it.

>>33021751
BKT is worth .4 GRI, so you're paying 4 GRI for 2.8 GRI of value.
>>33021754
Fuck, nevermind, I think at that point it's better just to get them on the market.

What level is it that things other than tournament prizes are tradable?

>>33021741
It's 2-1, you have to buy 4 theme decks to get a playset. But it's pretty worth still, tokens aren't really useful for anything except paying the no-trade pack slots anyways.

>>33021567
>>33021728
Tradable verses untradable packs, you can't translate token value to tradable value 1:1 like that. Using tokens so you don't have to spend tradable value is a good deal basically any time you can do it, especially for newer players that don't have much tradable value to spare.

>>33021789
at trainer level 16 your daily challenge packs from KO challenge are tradable.

Log in bonus packs are never tradable.

>>33021798
>Tradable verses untradable packs, you can't translate token value to tradable value 1:1 like that. Using tokens so you don't have to spend tradable value is a good deal basically any time you can do it, especially for newer players that don't have much tradable value to spare.
That's true too, I suppose grinding out tokens for 4-4 Zoro is better for new players if they don't want to buy code cards.

>>33021808
Are token bought packs ever tradable?

>>33021754
>>33021741
>zoroark is $10
>night striker is $13 on amazon
Is the rest of that deck worth $3?

>>33021798
Okay, BKT packs are 200.
Zoruark pack is 750, and contains 2 BKT packs, a zorua, holo zoruark, and sleeves.

Remove two nontradable BKT packs from both price and contents and we have >>33021728

So I think my math is sound here.

>>33021863
If you're not using codes then 350 for 1-1 Zoroark is pretty good.

>>33021850
The gengar is 1,50.
Dreamduck and speakerbat are a little less than a dollar.

Probably?

>>33021892
If you do online too I think that puts it over the top, as each essentially contains 2-1 Zoroark online too.

>>33021906
And the content of store bought decks are tradable. Yeah, do it.

>>33021928
>And the content of store bought decks are tradable.
You mean decks gotten from codes, right? I'mma do it!
tomorrow when my check comes in

>win 10 expanded matches
Nigga I've been playing for less than a month. Does it look like I have an expanded deck?

>>33021946
Yea your standard deck can also used un expanded

>>33021953
>standard deck
>in a month
Fuggit, I'm going in with theme.

>>33021946
Just ignore it. I'm pretty sure the packs are only legal for Expanded anyways.

>>33021946
everyone gets the same special challenge afaik

expanded isn't that hard to build for, a lot of the best standard decks are also good in expanded with minor modifications. Only problem is there's always some fucking nerd running Archeops lock which just annihilates most of the evolution decks that use cheap cards like garb/zoroark.

>take a break for a month
>come back
>see Plasma Blast thing
>load up Decidueye
>flip 8 tails in a row on scoop up in my first two matches
>turn game off

How the fuck do any of you deal with this shit client?

>>33022298
bbbut the rng is totally fair ur just suffering from gambler's fallacy

anyone who knows anything knows that the client's rng algorithm is weighted which is why none of the top paper players use it for practice

>>33022320
Weighted towards what.
I can see coin flips because you always want heads, but how the hell does the client know how to fuck up your hands.

>>33022320
>play that Drampa/Zoroark deck because I always liked Zoroark Break's idea
>brick every other game like I was playing theme

This client made me want to quit playing frequently. Playing the physical tcg with real people is way more fun and way more skill based and consistent.

>>32989580
U can get gameplay stuff too...

I currently play a Greninja Break Deck.
Is that Deck still allowed in the next rotation?
Also what Sun & Moon stable cards should I run.
I'm already running Choice Band.

>>33022989
Play a better deck

>>33022989
Dive ball goes
Idk what can be in, I like alolan vulpix a lot, but I don't know if he fits well

>>33000228
I like reshi/plume/bats
Good luck anon ;)

>>33002029
/R9k/ is just a click away anon bye! :)

>>33021661
Same here but with Primarina. Pull rates suck.

>>33022327
Screw hands by clumping

>>33022989
Breakthrough is the cutoff. Rough seas leaves, rest stays.

>>33023670

Dive Ball is also gone.

>>33023675
>>33023670
I don't think Greninja can survive those losses along with the rise of grass.

eh, to think I have play only 20 winning matches to get 5 guardian packs but the gap is too big to even bother