In Gen 2, the type-based physical-special split meant that he was forced to use his mediocre special stat if he wanted STAB, instead of his great physical stat. Also, most of his good moves were special type moves anyway. in Gen 4, he doesn't get a physical Water type move in Aqua Tail until level 48. This means that in both generations, Cyndaquil is by far the best choice, which is unfortunate because Feraligatr has the best design. Good thing Johto has other good Water types.
ha ha Lurantis lmao
>>32964434
>he
>>32964434
>best design
I didn't know biological pockets on the knees, arm pads, and long man fingers on a croc was "good design".
Feraligtr actually has the worst design of the gen 2 starters.
>>32964521
That's his tough skin. He has it on his more open areas to protect against injury, much like an actually alligator or crocodile. A biological armor.
>>32964531
Idk. Feraligatr isn't good at all by Typhlosion is just worse imho.
First stages are cute at least.
>>32964440
>gets outclassed by servine
>gets outclassed by another grass-type introduced in its own gen
>slow, frail, mixed attacker
I'm convinced they made most of the totems shit on purpose.
>>32964600
Are you saying what OP says doesn't apply to 11,9% of the species? Or that Feraligatr is male only? Because that's kind of autistic.
>>32964434
No, Cyndaquil is actually a worse choice in both gen 2 and gen 4 because Fire-types are ass in Johto and wholly unnecessary.
>>32964681
Why?
>>32964681
explain why speedrunners use cyndaquil in hg/ss describing it as 'the faster and better choice'
>>32964966
How speedrunners play is very specialized, and says basically nothing about the "best" choice for any other purpose.
Beyond saying that, I take no position on Cyndaquil vs. Totodile or anything else.
>>32964681
>>32964689
It's better in gen 2 thanks to Thunderpunch being a tm AND special. I agree for gen 4 though. The entire line's movepool just cannot be excused.
>>32964582
>>32964531
What is Meganium?
>>32965207
Lame.
>>32965207
a cutie
>>32964689
>Because Fire-types are ass in Johto and wholly unnecessary
Also because Feraligatr in general is more useful and you need to spend a bit of time to train some of the other Water-types you can encounter. The ones that give it the most competition (Slowbro, Quagsire) are slow and end up costing you time.
>>32965082
Sorry, nope, you're still wrong. Typhlosion gets Thunderpunch, Cyndaquil does not. And unless you're grinding only Cydaquil (in which case this argument is irrelevant because solo runs are retarded), you're stuck with shitty moves for quite a while due to Johto's level curve Totodile gets Ice Punch right off the bat and doesn't fall over to Miltank or require investment in other Pokemon for that part of the game.
Smogon actually has a ranking system for in-game runs and Totodile is conisdered to be amongst the best, better than Cyndaquil and Chikorita (though that's not saying much for the latter). Abra is considered the best to use though.
>>32964434
Oh fuck off and stop acting like you have a victim complex Gatrfag. You wanna know who got the short end of the stick? MEGANIUM. That's who! Johto was literally designed to screw it over. Plus tons of people love Gatr while Meganium, who has a far superior design, gets no love.
>>32965232
FUCK OFF CUNT
>>32966255
>Johto was literally designed to screw it over
as a Meganium fan, this is Good Actually because it means Johto has built-in easy and hard modes. Let us look at each starter and how they fare against the gyms
Chikorita
favorable: none
unfavorable: 1, 2, 4*, 6, 7**, 8
neutral: 3, 5
*all of Morty's Pokémon are part Poison
**all of Pryce's Pokémon are weak to Grass so this could be seen as neutral
Cyndaquil:
neutral: 1, 3, 4, 5*
favorable: 3, 6, 7
unfavorable: 8
*chuck has a poliwrath so this could be unfavorable I guess
Totodile
neutral: 1234567
favorable: none
unfavorable: 8
So Typhlosion is easy, Feraligatr is standard, and Meganium is hard
>>32966345
Johto as a whole is poorly balanced, and even though I still like GSC and HG/SS, many fans of their fans are blissfully ignorant of the flaws they have.
>>32966402
*fans of their games
>>32966345
FUCK OFF CUNT
>>32966255
back to your thread >>32966138
>>32965457
>Smogon actually has a ranking system for in-game runs and Totodile is conisdered to be amongst the best, better than Cyndaquil and Chikorita (though that's not saying much for the latter). Abra is considered the best to use though.
link? I'm curious now
>>32964434
shut up and show me how THICC S H E is :)
>>32966474
She's thicc alright.
>>32966457
found it, never mind. Neat. You can get to the GS and C ones from here.
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/misc/hgss_ingame_tier
>>32966487
>>32966528
God! What an ugly and revolting Pokémon! It has incredibly smelly breath from eating fish as well while Meganium's breath actually heals living beings instead of making them gag.
>>32966556
It's ironic you'd say that about Feraligatr while posting a pic of Silver with a Meganium when Feraligatr is Silver's canon starter. Now piss off, Lily.
At least he's the best option in competitive.