So how do we make ice types good /vp/ ?

If they just gave it one resistance to something other than itself - just one - I'd be happy.

>>32960215
Super-effective against Fairy

Resist fairy, dragon and flying

>Only play doubles
>Lead Snow Warning Icy Rock
>Lead Light Clay Aurora Veil
>Click double Blizzard forever

Boost their defence in hail, make a proper special speedy attacker without a cucked moveset, remove steel vulnerability because why is it a thing anyway. Also, a good physical attack, make sure to never give it to water types, also limit water types from knowing ice beam.

Resists Fairy

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>>32960215
resist ground, fairy and flying
also give better stats to ninetales

>water types can't learn icebeam anymore
>get rid of the water type weakness
>ice now resists ground
>boost hail somehow

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>>32960239
>fly
>>32960243
>>32960254
>>32960262
>Nerfing flying and water

>>32960267
(You)

>>32960267
>Nerfing flying and water
>water
>w a t e r
>w
>a
>t
>e
>r

>>32960243
>remove steel vulnerability because why is it a thing anyway
Ice picks break ice, maybe.

>>32960267
maybe not flying
but at least ground and fairy

>>32960215
Mega Weavile

>>32960284
>trying to justify a game with real world stuff
dark is weak to bugs
explain this

>>32960267
Water is pretty much the best type in the game though, aside from maybe Steel. Its matchups make it very versatile and most Water types have access to one of the best moves (Scald) and multiple coverage moves (notably Ice Beam).

>>32960294
Most bigs can see in the dark. And they're hard to cheat, since you can't accurately predict the behavior of something that acts on pure instinct.

>>32960270
>>32960281
>>32960297
>Buffing ice when steel and fairy are centralising the meta.

If you buff ice, you nerf grass. The main reason why water is good, genius. And flying is totally fine as it is. Stealth rock is the main problem.

>>32960300
*bugs

>>32960302
>centralising the meta
No one cares about your autistic fanmeta

>>32960294
Women are afraid of spiders?

>>32960294
You can't cheap shot a bug

>>32960294
Maybe because bugs are attracted to light in the darkness

>>32960302
>steel and fairy are centralising the meta
>not ground
>ground
>g r o u n d
>g
>r
>o
>u
>n
>d

>>32960323
>fairy type comes out of gamefreak's ass
>resisted by steel, poison, fire
>all of them are weak to ground

Here, i found the problem.

>>32960344
t. edgy dark-type lover

>>32960367
From where did you just come up with that?

Im a normalfag btw

>>32960389
NORMIES GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

resists electric

>>32960294
Bugs are symbolic for superheroes in Japan, so they are the superhero type along fighting that opposed the evil type.

>>32960215
Ground/flying resist since nothing else resists both.
Would make Avalugg a great switch into Zygod.

Blizzard and freezing returns to how they worked in japanese Gen 1

>>32960232
this

>>32960562
>flying resist
stop this shit meme

>>32960594
t. Landorus

>>32960215
Already said this last thread, but

Move with 80 percent chance to freeze.
Not OP because fire types can get out of it. (Although then I guess fire types would be used even more)

>Ice resists Water
>Ice no longer weak to Steel
>Steel no longer resists Grass
>Steel and Fairy no longer resist Bug

Is this better?
Is this better?

>>32960601
kek

>>32960621
>Ice resists Water
Dosen't make any sense and won't do any good to the type chart.
>Ice no longer weak to Steel
Ice, Rock and Steel matchup is based on how strong the material is. Steel>Rock>Ice
>Steel no longer resists Grass
no
>Steel and Fairy no longer resist Bug
yes

>>32960643
>>Ice resists Water
>Dosen't make any sense and won't do any good to the type chart.
yet
>>Steel and Fairy no longer resist Bug
>yes
autism

>>32960643

Ice needs another resistance and Water is a menace, so adding Water to Ice's resists would be very beneficial imo.

Mind explaining why Steel no longer resisting Grass warrants an immediate 'no'? It'd greatly benefit Grass, and Steel has more than enough resists anyway.

>>32960215
ban fire types

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Water and Ice should resist each other both ways. Ice types aren't a static ice cube but rather a constant source of cold temperature like a freezer. When water attacks hit ice types it freezes due to the constant artic temperatures the you constantly produce. Ice attacks hitting water would be more like the image. A set amount of cold that will likely melt when introduced to a constant supply of room temperature water
Now, that autism is out of the way. Add the ground resist so they can be Zygarde killers I guess. Remember, any offensive buff to Ice will buff Water and make it even more used.

>>32960215
Let's hail buff defense and special defense by 50%

>>32960294
Kamen Rider vs evil

>>32961585
>Defense and special defense

No.

How about just defense? Hail is to Sand, as is Sun is to Rain...at least it should be. So why not?

>>32961651
Sand - Ground Type - 2 resists, 1 immunity
Hail - Ice type - 1 resist (self), 0 immunities

probably because the underlying types aren't exactly equal or comparable.

>>32960267
flying and water are the second most populous types in OU after steel

>>32960661
Sorry, i was was in a hurry when i posted that. I took in consideration the lore behind the types. If not, then you could go with what >>32960652 said if competitive viability is more important. Just imagine a Metagross being hit by a razor leaf and being supereffective for no reason. Totally agree with steel, by a far the most broken type at this moment.

>>32960240
I got walled by a guy using A-Ninetails and Screens Klefki. Apparently Arora Veil and the screens can stack.

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>>32960294
Bugs can always see through evil's trickery!

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>>32962099
>supersentai are the reason why bug are supper effective against dark
I love bugs now

>>32960215
Let it resist Flying and Water.
Give Rock types the ability to absorb SR when switched in.
Introduce Ice type entry hazard that ice types can absorb.

>>32960215
Simple. Just make it SE against Water and remove it's weakness to Water. There's so many Water-types that this will actually be a huge advantage.

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>>32962183
>4 layers of hazards
Please god no more hazards