/heg/ - Hacking and Essentials General

Since I'm basically working on a glorified rombase, why yes I will finish my hack.

Hello /heg/
What advantages does gen II hacking have over gen III?

>>32925076
The disassembly

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Today I will remind them.

>>32925167
>.exe Pokémon games
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>>32925167
Holy shit I remember the Eevee game.

>>32925167
Some on the right are mockups

Has anyone ever made a rom hack or essentials game where pokemon can have multiple abilities at once?

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This is the updated world map of Hoenn I have so far. The area on the top left is a later half of verdanturf tunnel which will connect to Forina Valley. The other area in the middle that connects Mt. Pyre, Route 118, and 134 is post game much like how the top right island of Sinnoh was and later routes was for Unova. There will be various things to do in there but I'm not sure what yet. I plan on making the two islands next to the Battle Frontier accessible too.

>>32925364
Really looking forward to playing this, mainly for Forina Valley. Honestly, I wish there were more movie-based romhacks. I'd love to see 4Ever and Heroes in romhack form.

>>32925076
As the other anon said, the disassembly is a huge advantage. Things that would normally require tools can just be done by editing text files, and things like finding free space are handled automatically by the compiler.
Ruby and Sapphire also have their own disasm but it's not as fancy regarding things like labels and commented code and it seems people are waiting for it to get more polished (that's an issue with the hacking community as a whole, just waiting for other people to do things for them, I admit I have the issue myself) before they perform some magic with it and really show off what you can do with that disassembly. If pokecrystal and pokeruby were identical to each other in terms of progress then the only reason you'd hack Gen 2 is because you like Gen 2, which is my reason for hacking Gen 2, but right now you also have the advantage of a more polished disasm.

>>32925392
What would you like to see in the place? Originally I was thinking of it as a means of accessing a hidden area in Meteor Falls for you know who.

>>32925428
What would disassembly benefit for someone like me who doesn't know how to code. I'm sure Advance Map has nothing to do with the things you're talking about right?

>>32925503
Mapping is one of the only things where you still want to use a tool (albeit one written for the disassembly, like crowdmap), and I don't think there's a disassembly-based map editor for Gen 3 yet. And don't expect the guy who made crowdmap to do it because he expected someone else to make a better version of crowdmap and nobody ever did because they were too complacent and I don't think he'd make the same mistake again

>>32925167
I absolutely hate playing essentials games. I would take anything on a pokemon engine before essentials.

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>>32924558

Why haven't any of you or the people in the wider Rom hacking community been able to over the hurdle of Gen 4 Rom hacking?

I would kill for a proper gen 4 Rom hack. Not just some re-skin with stronger trainers. I wish someone would create a new story line in the gen 4 engine.

Does anyone have the ambition to make said breakthrough?

>>32925364
Are you expanding Dewford Island? Literally the two things I ever wanted were:

[a] accessing that island you have a town on now
and
[b] being able to explore the rest of Dewford Island, adding perhaps a forest route or something

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>>32926398
There was one person remaking Light Platinum in the HGSS engine, but outside that people just don't want to put the effort into it I guess. Why bother with it when you can just hack a game people have already put the needed effort into making it easy? That's the attitude the Pokémon hacking community has.

>>32926461
What would it take to make it more reasonable the gen 3 rom hacking?

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>>32926451
I updated Dewford Town but I didn't expand it. It would be a cool idea to expand on it but there really isn't much to put there.

>>32926524
More easily-accessible hacking tools, more easily-accessible mapping tools most of all, and more documentation. If everyone who hacks Gen III got together and started working on shaping up Gen IV hacking, huge progress would be made quickly, but most people aren't interested. Even Max, who was doing a ton of shit with Gen V, moved to Memessentials because of the difficulties.

>>32925291
Asking this again, sorry.

>>32926538
Would you be open to adding in a short desert or marsh route just beyond the town?

>>32926716
Not really. In order to do that I'd have to make it south of town but the world map permissions don't allow me to go any farther down than that. I think Granite Cave was supposed to be the attraction spot of the town. Sorry man. I'll try to figure something out and if I ever do find something I'll post it on this general.

>>32926768
I think a compromise of >>32926716 's suggestion would be a small grove on top of Granite cave. Maybe a few colored version of the pebble pile tile from RSE color coated as Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Possibly a maze like thinned out forest with a couple Cut-sized trees to make it seem slightly resistant to vegetation, being hard rock and all. A path to a cliff face atop the entrance of the cave. Mt. Granite and Granite cave. Gems, shards and evo stones spawn from Rock Smash... and so on.

Just suggestions though

>>32926398
I was thinking that, when I was finished trying to make the basic edits that I wanted to make, that I would at least try to make a new story set in johto. The tools are there, but I don't even know what to do story-wise.

>>32926971
What do you want to see as a story?

Or just ask around the internet or 4chan for inspiration.

>>32926398
What happened to that Unity Engine Pokemon thing?

>>32927004
I've got a lot of ideas, I just am trying to pick them apart and keep my goals realistic.

>>32927025
I don't know what you're referring to.

>>32924558
It took me a moment to realize that was Canalave. I only just now saw the filename.

>>32927049
Do things that won't take more effort than you are willing to put in.

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>>32927025
It's been picked up again, apparently Max is helping with it now, he posted a couple screenshots of the alpha.

>>32926961
>small grove on top of Granite cave.
The top would be too small for a grove of any sort and even if I added in a few trees it wouldn't be anything note worthy.
Maybe a few colored version of the pebble pile tile from RSE color coated as Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald.
That would be impossible palette wise from what I believe as far as only using A-map.
>Possibly a maze like thinned out forest with a couple Cut-sized trees to make it seem slightly resistant to vegetation, being hard rock and all.
A maze would be too big and the thought process behind it seems too complicated than it really needs to be.
> A path to a cliff face atop the entrance of the cave. Mt. Granite and Granite cave. Gems, shards and evo stones spawn from Rock Smash... and so on.
Again too small.

Thanks for the suggestions though but I just wanted to point out some issues that would prevent those from working out.

>>32927052
Below is what I am referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XozaGOtIGys
>>32927070
It was dropped? Thankfully it's being worked on again then! The project is very promising from what I've seen.

>>32925364
Just got to this thread.
Name of your project so I can follow it in the future? Is it the filename?

>>32927125
>Unity Engine Pokemon

Would it run as smoothly as normal pokemon games?
Essentials can't achieve that.

>>32927185
It used to be Emerald + but I changed it to Emerald Advance.
>>32927192
Wouldn't know, never tried but from looking at some videos it seems like it.

>>32927218
Thanks.

>>32927192
I ran the alpha anon posted on my really old toaster a year or so ago and it was smooth like butter. Admittedly it could lose its smoothness later on as more features get added and the game becomes more than an overworld simulator (there's no battles yet to my knowledge) but for now it seems great.

Can anyone tell me where the pokecrystal data for the intro "Welcome to the world of Pokémon" stuff is? Also, how to change the initial post-intro spawn point out of the player's New Bark house?

>>32927454
The git grep function is great for finding simple things like this. If you search something like "Welcome to the" you get a handful of results. One of those is in text/common_3.asm, and checking that will show you Oak's intro speech with the label "OakText1"
Searching OakText1 will take you to the file engine/intro_menu.asm, which has Oak's opening speech. Said file also contains data about where to spawn the player, setting "SPAWN_HOME" as the spawn point. Searching that string of text will take you to constants/map_constants.asm, and just searching "spawn" will show you there's a file called engine/spawn_points.asm that marks what the actual specific map and coordinates are for said spawn. If you wanted to change the home spawn to a different map, you'd just change it in spawn_points.asm and adjust the coordinates to where on that new map you want the player to spawn.

>>32925167
essensials games suck because people think they are obligated to make their own dex and all those fakemon suck

>>32926461
what ever happened to Light Platinum?

Are there any GSC hacks that only add the physical/special split?

This place would be so much better if it were more active. Are there any forums that are dedicated to this stuff? I'm not much of a forums guy so I'd be lost when finding any. I know reddit is even worse than here.

>>32928721
pokecommunity and reliccastle
they're kinda dead too, though
wackahack if your'e spanish

>error: Unable to place 'Events' (ROMX section) at $66B0 in bank $25
>make: *** [Makefile:59: pokecrystal.gbc] Error 1
What went wrong?

>>32928592
I had a custom made one that only added the Fairy-type and phys/spec split, but I since fucked up the build and it was before I learned to save my shit with commits.
https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/3124/
CrystalComplete is basically the physical/special split with extra optional stuff on top like an alternate soundtrack selectable in the options and Voltorb Flip (it doesn't replace the slots or normal card flip).

Why is trying to do anything with hg/ss involve so much suffering?

>>32930155
because romhackfags brainwashed you into thinking hacking anything past gen 3 is actually doable. Just use essentials.

>>32930175
but i can't put essentials on my 3ds, which is the whole point of me doing this to begin with

>>32929209
Sounds neat, but when I got to the github page, there were no Windows instructions on patching/creating the rom, only guides for Linux and OSX. Would it be possible for someone to make it?

>>32930175
It's doable, it's just that nobody's done it.

People should skip trying to tackle Gen 4 and Gen 5, and instead try to research Gen 6/7 and make it more workable.

>>32930242
https://www.sendspace.com/file/5a7uzi

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>>32930251
Thanks, anon!

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>>32930245
>it's just that nobody's done it.

hmmmmm I wonder why

it's almost as if romhacking is terrible or something

>>32930264
Please stop shitposting

>>32930266
I'm only stating facts.

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>essentials shitposter is back

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>>32930272
Please stop shitposting

who is he really think he's going to convince, anyway?

>>32930278
I can't stop something I never started.